| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: I think I may have found a way. I think all DEs use indicator-application.service. (would have to check) | 00:53 |
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| OvenWerks | It seems indicators-pre.target goes away after starting indicators... if I look for the right combination of targets and services running or not, I should be able to detect one of the indicator servoces dying and use that to que an exit. | 00:56 |
| OvenWerks | Maybe indicator-sound.service would be better for us. | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: if I come up with a fix for de stuff like this, which package should it end up in? | 01:18 |
| OvenWerks | I am thinking of making a session_monitor.service that requires one of the indicators (which seem to die on their own when the session manager goes away) and use the stopping command to exit the session. | 01:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks: I'm pretty sure Gnome doesn't use any indicators. | 01:37 |
| OvenWerks | so such a file should go in the setting package for a DE | 01:47 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm up for any solution. Let's give it a shot. | 01:53 |
| OvenWerks | well, I have a service running sleep infinity... I just have to figure the command to get the session to fully die. I am trying a systemctl start first, but it may not run if it is not a human running it in which case I will have to try a dbus-send message. | 05:39 |
| OvenWerks | Of course the update box was there so now I am waiting for the update to finish :) | 05:40 |
| OvenWerks | cool, that was easy. | 05:50 |
| OvenWerks | systemd[1473]: Reached target Shutdown. | 05:52 |
| OvenWerks | and in autojack.log.old: 2020-01-31 21:46:05,298 - root - WARNING - Got signal number: 15 - Dying. | 05:53 |
| OvenWerks | Very satisfying | 05:54 |
| OvenWerks | ok Eickmeyer[m]: this seems quite solid. It will work for any DE that loads indicator-sound.service | 06:32 |
| OvenWerks | I need to put this file (and it's link) in some package. Which one? | 06:32 |
| OvenWerks | and having done so there will need to be a postinstall that A: runs systemctl enable on the servce or B: creates a symlink. I would prefer to create the symlink as then it could go in /usr/lib/systemd/user/ rather than /etc/* which is more apropriate for a package solution. | 06:36 |
| OvenWerks | this applies to studio.service as well though of course it for sure belongs in the -controls package. | 06:37 |
| OvenWerks | I have looked over your paste of a gnome screen session and I am not sure what happens in the case of logout and in as a different user. It does not look like the systemd --user session goes all the way down. The second login does not pass through basic and default targets. | 06:39 |
| OvenWerks | So while it may work ok when logging out and then back in as the same user, I wonder what it does with a different user. | 06:40 |
| OvenWerks | quick note... we need to save the alsa settings for audio cards somehow. I keep getting the device turned allmost all the way down. I think it has to do with pulse turning it down in the other user's session. | 08:04 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks: since it has to do directly with the operation of autojack, I'd say it belongs in the ubuntustudio-controls package. | 16:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | As far as the alsa issue, I think that' | 16:53 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | s a known bug in alsa. | 16:53 |
| OvenWerks | ok, I will put it in -controls. | 17:36 |
| OvenWerks | I think it would be possible to use the same idea to make gnome screen work too. | 17:38 |
| OvenWerks | (properly) | 17:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks: I switched out a few gnome tools for mate tools in the seed to match what Xubuntu has. | 19:15 |
| OvenWerks | ok | 19:20 |
| studiobot | <Eickmeyer> @azbulutlu Have you made a new default wallpaper yet? Or is that even on your radar? | 20:04 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I just figured it's February, less than a month to Feature Freeze, let's get a wallpaper contest going. | 20:55 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | JackWinter: To answer your question, yes we have Ross Gammon (He's a Debian Developer) but he doesn't have very much time on his hands to deal with pushing stuff upstream. Anytime I do an RFP it's met with silence, so I've given up there. | 23:21 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I've done a lot of packaging just over the past year, and it's landed in Ubuntu. | 23:21 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Oh, wrong Jack. | 23:34 |
| DalekSec | Well yes, RFP is simply "someone somewhere has interest", someone else has to actually see that and also have interest. | 23:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | DalekSec: There lies the problem. Nobody sees it and/or has interest. I've had much better luck getting sponsorship on Ubuntu, especially now that teward is on the team. That said, I try not to bog him down except the once-in-a-while "OH CRAP WE'RE SCREWED". | 23:37 |
| DalekSec | ...Sponsorship isn't the same as a RFP, the latter is "Will you package and maintain it for me?" | 23:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, I've gone down the sponsorship road too with no avail. | 23:39 |
| DalekSec | Ah, that's quite unfortunate. :/ | 23:43 |
| DalekSec | Sometimes one can have better luck if one can find a team as an umbrella to put it under, I've had some luck with that at least. | 23:44 |
| teward | Well the thing about RFP is if you take maintainership and the wuality of the package is good in Debian its trivial to get sponsors | 23:48 |
| teward | Case in point xca or vmfs6-tools which I maintain in Debian | 23:48 |
| teward | I submit a new revision or version its sponsored within 48h max | 23:49 |
| teward | But yeah same thing there, if theres an overarching team to stick it under that helps. | 23:49 |
| teward | Sometimes you also have to be annoying in Debian to get a sponsor | 23:49 |
| teward | :P | 23:49 |
| teward | You also can specify multiple uploaders in Debian | 23:50 |
| teward | So if you needed me with my evilness to help you can designate me an uploader | 23:50 |
| teward | Or a maintainer | 23:50 |
| teward | Sponsor finding in Debian is easy when you nag em on IRC like I do xD | 23:50 |
| teward | Everything i get sponsored goes through Mentors too so it gets a little more visibility and automatic tests | 23:51 |
| teward | But thats just a tiny segment of it :P | 23:51 |
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