| teward | *pours salt over wxl* | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| wxl | @teward: are you seriously suggesting you set up weblate on your own infra? | 00:13 |
| teward | wxl: temporarily but yes. | 00:31 |
| teward | the problem I have is | 00:31 |
| teward | I don't have any cloud resource at the moment | 00:31 |
| teward | wxl: that's the core issue with Weblate atm | 00:31 |
| teward | wxl: i am going to try a docker deployment atm | 00:32 |
| teward | but if that doesn't work it'll blow up | 00:32 |
| wxl | teward: if we could resolve the resource issue on the canonical (lowercase) infra, i presume you wouldn't be intending to use your own, even for development purposes? | 00:33 |
| teward | correct. | 00:33 |
| teward | BUT | 00:33 |
| teward | we need to figure out *why* it's barfing on our infra | 00:33 |
| teward | because it ideally SHOULDN'T be barfing like this | 00:33 |
| teward | eww we're out of date on the infra | 00:33 |
| teward | *goes to update things* | 00:33 |
| wxl | @teward: min is 2g of ram and we've got less than 1 free | 00:41 |
| teward | yep that's probably why it's barfing | 00:41 |
| wxl | @teward: it only wants a gig of space for the install, so i don't think the disk is the issue | 00:41 |
| teward | no, but the RAM is a problem. | 00:41 |
| teward | so i'm thinking we need to upgrade everything | 00:41 |
| teward | i think this is a DO droplet | 00:41 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> more dilithium crystals needed | 00:41 |
| teward | so it needs upgrade | 00:41 |
| teward | not sure what the cost is | 00:42 |
| wxl | i will also mention it wants *AT MINIMUM* 2 cores | 00:42 |
| teward | kc2bez: no, that's me on STar Trek: Fleet Command on my phone | 00:42 |
| teward | wxl: available on system, it's not going to horde those cores I believe | 00:42 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> :D | 00:42 |
| * wxl shrugs | 00:42 | |
| wxl | sounds like it might be core-intensive with concurrent users | 00:42 |
| teward | it will be yes | 00:42 |
| wxl | happily psql is the default db thank heavens | 00:43 |
| teward | i might still be able to deploy this on Docker | 00:44 |
| teward | all I know is it won't work in a secondary container | 00:46 |
| teward | PROBABLY because Docker's on the host | 00:46 |
| teward | so we'll see | 00:46 |
| teward | i'm in the process of deploying Weblate atm | 00:46 |
| teward | via Docker | 00:46 |
| teward | it'll be slow as heck I believe though :P | 00:46 |
| teward | so we'll need a resource upgrade | 00:46 |
| teward | Unless Lubuntu wants to start paying me monthly for cloud infra somewhere. Or unless Canonical wants to provide infrastructure (capital C) | 00:47 |
| wxl | i presume we can figure out a solution to that problem. i'd call the ticket stalled pending the decision of the lc. i've already sent a message | 00:48 |
| teward | yikes. | 00:50 |
| wxl | ? | 00:51 |
| teward | yeah, we need more resources. "Celery beats scheduler is not executing tasks in a timely manner" <-- critical during the tests that failed for the deploy | 00:51 |
| teward | but that could be a false positive during the deploy, I'm gonna sit here and wait to see | 00:53 |
| teward | wxl: confirmed we need more reousrces | 01:07 |
| teward | i don't think it'll work as-is | 01:07 |
| wxl | teward: i hate little hope otherwise fwiw | 01:08 |
| wxl | @lynorian we don't have "advanced network configuration" in the manual yet do we? | 02:07 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6382ca76bef2: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6382ca76bef2 | 02:33 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe934f5628181: Add print in reverse order] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe934f5628181 | 04:57 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 have you tried https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/02/lightweight-qt-desktop-lumina-1-6-release | 18:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah @q5sys, have you tried it? ;) | 18:18 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl haven't but i'm not sure the "you don't need dbus or ANYTHING" philosophy is necessarily fantastic, nor the fact that this is the first update in a year | 18:18 |
| lubot | <q5sys> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl haven't but i'm not sure the "you don't need dbus or ANYTHING" …], sadly we got sidelined making an Desktop OS to replace the TrueOS Desktop which iX wanted to discontinue | 18:22 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> Heyy | 18:23 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> You are releasing 20.04? | 18:23 |
| lubot | <q5sys> We didnt want to leave our ~18K users in the lurch. So Ken and I focused on the putting out a new TrueOS Desktop Project. | 18:23 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @Rutvikm [You are releasing 20.04?], Know this isn't support, but still | 18:23 |
| lubot | <q5sys> Last summer due to issues with FreeBSD and getting fixed we needed dealt with by upstream has changed to using Void as a base. | 18:23 |
| wxl | @Rutvikm you're a little early | 18:23 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @wxl [<wxl> @Rutvikm you're a little early], Nice | 18:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> @Rutvikm [You are releasing 20.04?], 20.04 will be released the same time as Ubuntu 20.04 releases - in April. You're several months early. | 18:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> *summons wxl for reasons* | 18:24 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @teward001 [20.04 will be released the same time as Ubuntu 20.04 releases - in April. You'r …], Ah OK | 18:25 |
| wxl | wot! | 18:25 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> I asked because lxqt is still in beta | 18:25 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> And lxde is kinda ded | 18:25 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> So what's the plan | 18:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> wot!], chaos comes upon thee today | 18:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> LXQt is the plan | 18:25 |
| wxl | lxqt is not really in beta | 18:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> it's already on the roadmap. it's what we're using | 18:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> so i mean | 18:25 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @teward001 [LXQt is the plan], Is it similar to KDE in many aspects as both are based coded in qt | 18:26 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> If yes then a stable lxqt can even replace plasma one day | 18:26 |
| wxl | @Rutvikm there are many things in Qt that have nothing to do or any likeness to KDE | 18:27 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @Rutvikm [If yes then a stable lxqt can even replace plasma one day], If we manage to make it as great | 18:27 |
| lubot | <teward001> 'tis dependent on certain people providing time and energy to things *glares at Simon* | 18:27 |
| lubot | <Rutvikm> @wxl [<wxl> @Rutvikm there are many things in Qt that have nothing to do or any likene …], Oh | 18:27 |
| wxl | i *DO NOT* want another plasma | 18:27 |
| lubot | <teward001> *shot* | 18:27 |
| wxl | plasma is honestly the downfall of kde | 18:27 |
| * RikMills chokes | 18:29 | |
| wxl | RikMills: you have to admit it's like the "catch-all" for the whole thing. everything gets thrown into it. it's not really "unixy" like kwin or dolphin or whatever is. | 18:30 |
| lubot | <q5sys> @teward001 ['tis dependent on certain people providing time and energy to things *glares at …], Glare harder | 18:31 |
| RikMills | unixy = CDE | 18:31 |
| RikMills | no thanks | 18:31 |
| wxl | RikMills: no, Ken Thompson | 18:32 |
| wxl | plasma is the monolith in an otherwise modular system | 18:33 |
| RikMills | you wouldn't say that if you had to keep building 80 frameworks sources packages to just provide a based for it! | 18:34 |
| RikMills | *base | 18:35 |
| RikMills | :P | 18:35 |
| RikMills | the old kdelibs and kdeworkspace super sources were monolithic | 18:35 |
| wxl | yes, it was far worse | 18:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Rutvikm [I asked because lxqt is still in beta], That's wrong | 18:38 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic 18.04.4] (20200203) has been added | 19:00 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic 18.04.4] (20200203) has been added | 19:00 | |
| wxl | ^ oh yeah we need to test that XD | 19:04 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> XD | 19:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Oh there's a point release this week, cool! XD | 19:06 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: about that, i'm not really going to be very available to help with that | 19:07 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: at least as far as final release is concerned | 19:07 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T137: improve theming] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#3090 | 20:11 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker There ^is a pyqt script to change color-scheme of breeze. Pleas your comments | 20:13 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [wxl @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker There ^is a pyqt script to change color-scheme of b …], Will do. | 20:26 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T137: improve theming] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#3092 | 20:27 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T137: improve theming] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#3093 | 20:41 | |
| lubot | <lynorian> wxl I had it in source I just never ended up putting in the table of contents big oops on my part thanks for following me up on thiis | 21:38 |
| wxl | well i don't know if you were following the convo on phab but we might have a solution that "edit connections" will automatically open it up, too! | 21:43 |
| lubot | <lynorian> Ok this is made in master just isn't in 19.10 | 22:01 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> well i don't know if you were following the convo on phab but we might hav …], Just FYI, that doesn't solve the VPN ask for password issue | 22:24 |
| wxl | @lynorian can we get it in 10? | 22:24 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl well we don't have a solution for that, right? | 22:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl well we don't have a solution for that, right?], Nope | 22:25 |
| wxl | s/10/19.10/ | 22:28 |
| lubot | <lynorian> ok I will have to look at the different stuff | 23:33 |
| lubot | <lynorian> wxl first cherry pick done | 23:42 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc6bb078b8616: Add stub title for advanced networking] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc6bb078b8616 | 23:42 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeb9c76e43b26: Add HmollerCl paster for Adanced Networking] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeb9c76e43b26 | 23:45 | |
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