| lordievader | Good mornig | 07:23 |
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| lordievader | morning* | 07:23 |
| danboid | Is there not an IRC channel for Landscape? | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !landscape | danboid | 14:06 |
| ubottu | danboid: Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/ | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychje | danboid: official support falls under canonical | 14:07 |
| danboid | I looked here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList and couldn't see one | 14:07 |
| lotuspsychje | there isnt one danboid | 14:07 |
| danboid | OK | 14:07 |
| danboid | I've just installed landscape-quickstart and I've found 2 bugs in the first 30 minutes | 14:08 |
| lotuspsychje | danboid: contact canonical about it | 14:08 |
| cgi | does anyone run a quic server in production here? | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychje | cgi: best to ask your specific question to the channel, so volunteers can think along with you | 14:14 |
| cgi | what is a good production server to run for supporting quic? Currently I use nginx, but would like to support quic in production. | 14:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | cgi: Not sure I understand the issue/limitation with Nginx in a production environment. Lots of companies/webservers run nginx on the Interent | 14:23 |
| tomreyn | cgi: https://caniuse.com/#search=QUIC | 15:14 |
| tomreyn | vs https://caniuse.com/#search=HTTP%2F2 | 15:15 |
| Ussat | is 20.4 abaliable in beta ? | 16:42 |
| pragmaticenigma | !ubuntu+1 | Ussat | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Ussat: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 | 16:42 |
| Ussat | Thanks | 16:42 |
| Ussat | Not looking for support, but thanks | 16:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | Ussat: Support and/or questions need to be directed there | 16:43 |
| Ussat | ... | 16:43 |
| sorin-mihai | is there some method/documentation about loading additional drivers/kernel modules in the server installer? | 17:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | sorin-mihai: I thought that was what DKMS was/is for | 17:54 |
| sorin-mihai | actually testing the focal server installer on a server with nvme drives in raid and some 10g nics, and neither are detected properly, so i tought i could just manually load them | 17:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | sorin-mihai: 20.04 hasn't been released yet, likely you're encountering a bug. I would recommend building with 18.04, unless this a testing machine. If you are testing, then you're question would be better asked in #ubuntu+1 | 17:57 |
| sorin-mihai | true, true. yet, is there a method already established for loading drivers that are not in the standard iso? | 17:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | sorin-mihai: This might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization | 18:02 |
| sorin-mihai | thanks | 18:04 |
| danboid | Does anyone know how to use landscape-config to join a machine to a landscape server as a container? | 18:21 |
| danboid | Also, does the landscape client need to be installed on the landscape on-prem server for it to be updated with Landscape or not? | 18:24 |
| danboid | I'm going to request both these get added to the Landscape FAQ | 18:25 |
| danboid | I'm pretty sure you do need to install the client on the server to get it to update itself as when you first start it no computers ae registered | 18:29 |
| danboid | https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/1861722 | 18:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1861722 in Landscape Server "Documentation: Registering containers and updating the OPL server" [Undecided,New] | 18:53 |
| teward | danboid: i believe it has to have the landscape client installed on it but I"d be careful pushing updates blindly lol | 18:54 |
| danboid | teward, Do you know how to register a Landcape client as a container instead of a full machine? | 18:56 |
| teward | no, but containers need specialized Landscape licenses | 18:56 |
| teward | to be used *as* containers | 18:56 |
| teward | and usually I think they require some kind of MaaS deployment or Juju deployment to make that work. | 18:57 |
| teward | with a free landscape onprem you don't get to nitpick between full or containers I don't think | 18:57 |
| danboid | teward, No, the free version supports up to 50 containers and 10 full machines | 18:58 |
| teward | then that's changed since I last used it | 18:58 |
| teward | not sure how to specify what is or isn't a container though that's probably in the docs somewhere deeo | 18:59 |
| teward | danboid: what 'client' is this? Docker container? LXD? | 19:00 |
| danboid | I'm interested in both LXC and LXD | 19:01 |
| teward | VM? | 19:01 |
| teward | no i mean the one you're tryign to register as a container instaed of a full machine | 19:01 |
| danboid | I have both LXC and LXD containers I'd like to register | 19:02 |
| teward | have you *tried* registering them? | 19:02 |
| danboid | Yes, as a full machine but it doesn't auto-detect its a container | 19:03 |
| danboid | That was a LXD. I've not tried LXC yet | 19:03 |
| danboid | landscape-config has a --cloud option but that seems to be for Amazon EC2 instances | 19:05 |
| danboid | The man page makes no mention of containers | 19:06 |
| teward | yeah i think it's going to autodetect them, an LXC container and an LXD container are different beasts | 19:06 |
| teward | the on prem page indicates this: a free license with 10+50 seats (bare metal plus LXC containers) | 19:07 |
| teward | where it says **LXC** containers | 19:07 |
| teward | not LXD | 19:07 |
| teward | so my guess is test an LXC container and see what happens | 19:07 |
| teward | if it works for LXC but not LXD then the issue is LXD != LXC containers | 19:07 |
| teward | and may not be covered under the standard 'containers' group | 19:07 |
| danboid | Seems funny it doesn't support LXD as that's a Canonical thing | 19:07 |
| danboid | and its hardly new | 19:08 |
| teward | to be fair i think their use cases are different but I don't know specifics to that end unfortunately | 19:08 |
| danboid | I'm pretty sure juju uses LXD for its containers | 19:08 |
| teward | ohnston | 19:12 |
| teward | oops | 19:12 |
| teward | cjohnston: since you replied to ^ their bug, I thought I'd ask you stop in | 19:13 |
| cjohnston | hi | 19:13 |
| teward | cjohnston: apparently, danboid is using landscape, and trying to reg LXD as containers but it regs bare metal instaed | 19:13 |
| teward | hence the inquiry as how to *tell* it to use a container license. | 19:13 |
| teward | sorry to drag you in here but since you replied on the bug... :P | 19:14 |
| cjohnston | danboid: can you screenshot your license page? | 19:14 |
| teward | danboid: also this is onprem yes? | 19:14 |
| teward | (not Canonical SaaS cloud Landscape) | 19:14 |
| teward | (like I have xD) | 19:14 |
| danboid | cjohnston, Not now but I can tomorrow. It's in work and I turned it off overnight as I've notset up the firewall etc yet | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | ok | 19:15 |
| danboid | Yes its on prem | 19:15 |
| danboid | cjohnston, Should it auto-detect an LXC or LXD install? | 19:16 |
| cjohnston | danboid: yes | 19:16 |
| danboid | I've only tried it in a LXD so far but it thought it was a bare metal machine | 19:16 |
| cjohnston | danboid: are you running the trial or did you purchase landscape? | 19:17 |
| danboid | It was a 16.04 container tho, if that makes any difference, on a 16.04 host | 19:17 |
| danboid | trial | 19:17 |
| cjohnston | shouldn't | 19:18 |
| danboid | I need to install the client onto the server to get it to update itself right? It is safe to do that I presume? | 19:20 |
| danboid | cjohnston, ^^ | 19:21 |
| cjohnston | correct | 19:22 |
| danboid | Update the Landscape on-prem server I mean | 19:22 |
| arooni | how do i disable atop logging permanently? run sudo rm -rf /var/log/atop in crontab ? | 20:49 |
| sarnold | why not just uninstall it if you don't want to use it? | 20:50 |
| arooni | because i wanted to like it | 20:50 |
| arooni | but havent had time to really delve into it | 20:50 |
| teward | just uninstall it until you get the time to delve into it | 20:51 |
| arooni | this is the right answer | 20:52 |
| arooni | what is a 'comfortable' amount of space to have for my / partition? | 20:52 |
| arooni | and in todays ubuntu; is it stupid to have a separate / from /home partition? | 20:52 |
| sarnold | arooni: you can always reinstall it when you want to try it out | 20:53 |
| arooni | (comfortable free space) i have 28gb currently; and have 4gb free (on laptop ubuntu) but i also run an ubuntu vps | 20:53 |
| sarnold | arooni: and apt install atop is way easier than trying to remember how you disabled logging because you didn't want to run apt purge atop :) | 20:53 |
| arooni | well said | 20:53 |
| sarnold | re free space.. a lot of cloud instances are created with 10-20 gig root filesystems | 20:54 |
| sarnold | physical machines may want to do something different ;) | 20:54 |
| arooni | is it still good practice to keep the root partition separate? | 20:54 |
| sarnold | I do; but that may be old superstition | 20:55 |
| teward | it really depends | 21:01 |
| teward | i don't separate my root partitions anymore 'cause I LVM everything, and most of my systems are backed up externally as well | 21:02 |
| Ussat | ^^ | 21:03 |
| Ussat | same | 21:03 |
| coreycb | jamespage: sahid: promoting ussuri-staging->proposed, there are currently 5 tempest failures | 21:38 |
| Ussat | I am currently useing ansible to manage/patch etc my ubuntu systems, this is the snipit of the play I use for that, I am finding that this is NOT cleaning /boot of old kernels. Any idea what I am missing ?: https://pastebin.com/UkLHpbcU | 23:36 |
| oerheks | autoremove: yes | 23:45 |
| oerheks | purge: yes | 23:45 |
| oerheks | https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-use-ansible-to-autoremove-unwanted-package-dependency-with-apt/ | 23:45 |
| oerheks | so not 'true' ??\ | 23:45 |
| Ussat | ahhh thats what I was missing, purge, thanks | 23:46 |
| oerheks | true > yes | 23:46 |
| Ussat | Thanks | 23:46 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 23:46 |
| Ussat | appreciated. | 23:47 |
| Ussat | that will leave 2, I assume | 23:48 |
| Ussat | yes, it does, thanls | 23:48 |
| oerheks | yes, current and previous kernel. | 23:48 |
| tds | it can leave up to 4, there's some logic for it | 23:52 |
| Ussat | Excellent, thanks | 23:57 |
| Ussat | I had a script that wasdoing this, I just forgot to put that part in the play | 23:58 |
| Ussat | Thanks again | 23:58 |
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