[03:04] <CamelRider> hello
[03:05] <CamelRider> should  i install  19.10 or 18.04 my pc is really shitty but LXQT is supposed to be low on resources
[03:05] <guiverc> G'day CamelRider, if you have a Lubuntu support question please just ask it.  Try and keep to a single line, and please be patient waiting for response (we're busy testing 18.04.4, plus our 20.04 dev work)
[03:05] <CamelRider> understood
[03:05] <guiverc> CamelRider, sorry; give me a sec.
[03:06] <CamelRider> sidenote :i am currently running mint 19.2 Mate with 4.15.76 kernel but i still get ocassional freezes and it is generally slow
[03:07] <guiverc> If your machine is amd64 and you plan on using it far into the future, I'd recommend 19.10. It's a short-term release, but can upgrade to 20.04 when it's released which is a LTS.  Lubuntu 18.04 LTS will be EOL ni april-2021, and require re-install to move to LXQt thus my 19.10 suggestion.
[03:08] <guiverc> fyi: I tested LXQt on pentium M x86 laptops in 18.10/19.04 cycle (1gb ram, 1.6ghz cpu), LXQt is efficient !
[03:09] <CamelRider> my pc is 2gb ram and intel core 2 duo e7400
[03:09] <CamelRider> i was surprised when mint was slow  even after downgrading kernel
[03:10] <guiverc> I won't talk about mint, but your pc is like lenovo thinkpad sl510 (c2d-t6570, 2gb ram, i915) I use in testing, it'll run either 18.04 or 19.10
[03:10] <CamelRider> so you advice 19.10 for smoother upgrade to the new 20
[03:11] <CamelRider> which is already LXQT so no need to reinstall
[03:14] <guiverc> Yep..
[03:15] <CamelRider> great, off to try it, thanks alot
[03:15] <guiverc> You're most welcome.
[03:20] <CamelRider> one last question
[03:20] <CamelRider> I am currently dual booting win 10 and mint should i remove mint first or just overwrite during installation
[03:21] <CamelRider> like liveboot lubuntu and delete the mint partitions
[03:21] <CamelRider> they're ext4
[03:21] <guiverc> I would just overwrite Mint during install.  I usually use 'something else' or "Manual Partition" and select the partition I want (which also allows no-format, though in your case I would format unless you have reason not to)
[03:22] <guiverc> CamelRider, https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/Installing_lubuntu.html  is our manual page (sub-index) for Lubuntu 19.10
[03:23] <CamelRider> okay great
[03:24] <guiverc> CamelRider, I'd still backup first... we rarely if ever use them, but it's far better safe than sorry!!
[03:24] <CamelRider> i don't have that much to lose tbh
[03:25] <guiverc> :)
[07:25] <abdulrahman> hey everyone , alt tab is not working for me
[07:42] <guiverc> abdulraham, I'd suggest checking prefs -> LXQt settings -> Keyboard and mouse settings (you didn't provide release so I assumed 19.10) for wrong changes - see https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.14/shortcut_keys.html?highlight=keyboard%20shortcuts
[18:55] <nmzm> Hello everyone. I have an issue with lubuntu on my laptop. I've installed the old version(16.04) because my laptop is too old, but the OS is freezing after start or is working really slow(For example, like 5 FPS in games)
[18:55] <nmzm> Do I need to install something like intel firmware or anything else?
[18:56] <nmzm> And no, I can't even just launch any game, 5 FPS was just an example how my system work
[18:57] <wxl> well 16.04 isn't supported by lubuntu
[18:57] <wxl> 18.04 is, and is roughly similar to 16.04
[18:58] <wxl> what's this freezing like?
[18:59] <nmzm> Well, it's more looking like when you move your mouse cursor and see how it's moving like -> 5 PX - stop. another 5 PX - stop. And so on
[19:00] <wxl> how much ram you have?
[19:01] <nmzm> I've tried 18.04 and there was another issue, when the screensaver was active, I wasn't able to turn it off, no idea why and the only way was to reboot the laptop. The fun fact, that this laptop runs windows 10 before O_o 4 GB of RaM
[19:01] <wxl> that screensaver issue is easy to solve
[19:02] <nmzm> And that's why I'm asking, I don't think that it can't run lubuntu(Even lubuntu 19)
[19:02] <nmzm> Hmm, how?
[19:02] <wxl> i could show you how to turn it off XD
[19:02] <nmzm> You mean in the settings just turn it off? :D
[19:03] <wxl> more or less
[19:04] <nmzm> I'm thinking that I need to try to install intel firmware packages and maybe this will solve the issues with perfomance
[19:04] <nmzm> But not sure..
[19:06] <wxl> i'm thinking more likely related to display driver issues
[19:06] <wxl> in any case newer supported software is better
[19:06] <wxl> i.e. use 18.04
[19:06] <wxl> what cpu is this?
[19:06] <nmzm> Intel Core-i3 2.4 GHz, and the built-in gpu intel HD graphics
[19:07] <wxl> i mean that's not really "old" in the scheme of things
[19:07] <wxl> that should easily handle 19.10
[19:08] <nmzm> Hmm, I'll try, but was a little bit afraid of installing 19.10, because saw perfomance on 16.04 which is the way older
[19:08] <wxl> i would expect old outdated software to work less well than newer software
[19:08] <nmzm> Ok, then I'll try 19.10, hope it will work smooth, thanks, wxl
[19:09] <wxl> @franksmcb if you had used `ubuntu-bug` we would have had that problem :)
[22:24] <abdulrahman> hey everyone , is anyone using the whatsapp app on lubuntu ?
[22:24] <abdulrahman> is it safe ?
[22:25] <wxl> no
[22:25] <wxl> unless you trust facebook with your data
[22:32] <abdulrahman> no i know facebook owns whatsapp
[22:32] <abdulrahman> i already use it and no i don't trust facebook
[22:33] <wxl> then i wouldn't use it!
[22:33] <abdulrahman> I meant the app in discover
[22:33] <abdulrahman> it says "unofficial"
[22:33] <wxl> hm
[22:33] <wxl> it's probably a snap
[22:34] <abdulrahman> oh wait it is not even on discover
[22:34] <abdulrahman> it was on the software manager in my previous distro
[22:34] <wxl> X'D
[22:34] <abdulrahman> sad reacts
[22:35] <akemhp> You can use the web version.
[22:35] <akemhp> web.whatsapp.com IIRC, it works fine.
[22:36] <abdulrahman> it does, i wanted a desktop app tho
[22:36] <wxl> there IS an unofficial client called whatsdesk
[22:36] <wxl> unofficial meaning it's not from whatsapp but it likely uses their api
[22:37] <wxl> kind of like there are twitter clients that twitter doesn't make
[22:37] <abdulrahman> aha
[22:37] <akemhp> abdulrahman, Why do you need desktop app?
[22:38] <abdulrahman> i have a toaster pc and i want to use whatsapp without the browser
[22:38] <akemhp> Ok.
[22:40] <abdulrahman> btw i am dualbooting win 10 and Lubuntu ,if i wanted to remove win 10 should reinstall lubuntu ?
[22:41] <wxl> naw you should be able to expand the partition
[22:41] <abdulrahman> so just delete the Win partition and expand ?
[22:42] <wxl> basically, yeah
[22:42] <wxl> you'll need to use the live media to do that
[22:42] <wxl> you generally can't resize a partition you're using
[22:42] <abdulrahman> aha