[08:23] <ricotz> good morning desktopers!
[08:23] <didrocks> good morning!
[08:25] <duflu> Morning ricotz and didrocks
[08:25] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:39] <seb128> goooood morning desktopers
[08:44] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:44] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you today?
[08:45] <duflu> seb128, going OK. Nothing to complain about. You?
[08:45] <seb128> duflu, I'm good thx
[09:02] <Laney> moin
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:05] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:06] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[09:08] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[09:15] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[09:17] <seb128> hey Wimpress, how are you today?
[09:19] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[09:19] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress
[09:22] <Laney> hey seb128 duflu oSoMoN Wimpress
[09:22] <oSoMoN> heyho Laney
[09:22] <duflu> Hi Wimpress
[09:22] <Laney> seb128: doing good, although we came last in the pub quiz last night :(
[09:22] <Laney> you?
[09:23] <duflu> Laney, same crowd, different questions?
[09:23] <seb128> :(
[09:23] <seb128> well, can't win every time !
[09:23] <seb128> I'm good :)
[09:23] <Laney> duflu: indeed
[09:23]  * duflu slips and accidentally fixes 3 bugs simultaneously
[09:23] <duflu> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/949
[09:23] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 949 in gnome-shell "iconGrid: Remove _paintVisible opacity tracking" [5. Icon Grid, 6. Performance, Opened]
[09:24] <seb128> brb, changing location
[09:25] <cpaelzer> tkamppeter: do I smell some irony in "Great, finally succeeded after 9 (!) years!" :-)
[15:24] <Laney> looks like 2.62.4 fixes the i386 tests
[15:24] <Laney> should just re-SRU that I guess
[15:38] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:38] <marcustomlinson> yo hellsworth
[15:39] <hellsworth> hi marcus! i hope you're feeling better :)
[15:39] <marcustomlinson> a little thanks
[15:42]  * Laney nods hellsworth 
[15:44]  * hellsworth curtsies at Laney
[15:45] <seb128> Laney, sounds like another iteration :)
[18:10] <kenvandine> hellsworth: you should automatically get added to the USN refresh cards for libreoffice now
[18:10] <kenvandine> marcustomlinson: ^^
[18:11] <marcustomlinson> thanks kenvandine
[18:18] <hellsworth> \o/
[18:18] <hellsworth> thanks :)
[19:13] <kenvandine> diddledan: gtk2-common-themes is built for armhf and arm64 in the stable channel now
[19:49] <amurray> hey desktoppers - is it normal for gnome-software to periodically prompt for password to install updates with no user interaction (on focal)? Every morning about 30mins after powering on my machine I get (unprompted) a gnome-shell popup saying 'authentication is required to install software' and if I cancel it I notice a bunch of notifications from gnome-software about updates having been successfully install
[20:03] <kenvandine> amurray: is it gnome-software or update-manager?
[20:04] <kenvandine> we don't use gnome-software for updates
[20:06] <amurray> kenvandine: gnome-software as far as I can tell https://imgur.com/a/stF4pfA
[20:06] <amurray> this machine was upgraded from eoan (which was a fresh install) a couple weeks ago fwiw
[20:08] <amurray> kenvandine: is this some gnome-software / snap integration or somesuch since one of the notifications mentioned gnome-firmware which I only have installed as a snap not the deb
[20:08] <kenvandine> amurray: interesting
[20:08] <kenvandine> and chromium there is a snap
[20:08] <kenvandine> since the deb is no more
[20:09] <amurray> I suspect some race condition between snapd refreshes and this plugin also wanting to do updates?
[20:13] <kenvandine> recently the updates panel changed behavior a bit
[20:14] <kenvandine> it now shows updates that can be applied to snaps
[20:14] <kenvandine> in the past they were ignored in the UI
[20:14] <kenvandine> however
[20:14] <kenvandine> it shouldn't try to refresh them automatically
[20:14] <kenvandine> snapd does that
[20:14] <kenvandine> amurray: please file a bug against the gnome-software package
[20:15] <amurray> kenvandine: no worries
[20:59] <kenvandine> amurray: can you please ping a link to the bug to robert_ancell when you see him online?
[21:00] <kenvandine> amurray: or just wait until he comes online and ping him
[21:00] <kenvandine> i also just upgraded to focal yesterday, maybe i'll start seeing these notifications too
[21:48] <ahayzen> kenvandine, seems that the snap gnome-software plugin should probably do whatever the packagekit plugin does to prevent automatic updates occurring, and maybe ubuntu should disable the "automatic updates" and/or "automatic update notifications" preferences if you aren't using them.
[22:28] <ahayzen> kenvandine, i wonder if this would fix the issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/ahayzen/gnome-software/commit/0597be6f317a38aa64ac86280d7b05a1aa242a70 lets see what Robert thinks
[23:56] <RAOF> Urgh, really, gnome-sofware? Your background process really needs to eat 700MB RSS?
[23:56] <JanC> after what time?