[01:51] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: got a 20.04 box by your hand to test an easy bug?
[01:51] <guiverc> i'm no a 20.04 box, not now - I'm busy with 18.04.4 & can't currently cope with more.. you'll need to ask later 
[01:52] <guiverc> s/no/on ^
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> kk no sweat nite nite ; )
[06:02] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje_: i have :) what to test?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: got a bug on the recent update on qbittorrent, launching makes it crash
[06:02] <tarzeau> saw the lp bug link
[06:03] <lotuspsychje_> so an easy test :p
[06:03] <tarzeau> I get a "Legal notice"
[06:04] <lotuspsychje_> thats first use, its normal
[06:04] <tarzeau> i agree, and then get the main window of the qt application
[06:04] <tarzeau> i'm not allowed to do p2p @ethz.ch but what next?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: try to activate the search plugin and enter keyword
[06:05] <tarzeau> i see the main window, no idea how it works, what do i click step by step?
[06:05] <tarzeau> i added search engine in tools
[06:05] <lotuspsychje_> yeah thats it
[06:05] <lotuspsychje_> now just search something, see if it crashes
[06:06] <tarzeau> it lists me all the search plugins 
[06:06] <tarzeau> i selected the pirate bay
[06:06] <tarzeau> searched for shit
[06:06] <lotuspsychje_> !info qbittorrent
[06:06] <tarzeau> and it lists me a 1498 out of 1525
[06:06] <lotuspsychje_> are you on this version^^
[06:07] <tarzeau> run it with strace and get your config files removed for retry cleanly?
[06:07] <tarzeau> 4.1.7-1ubuntu3
[06:07] <lotuspsychje_> ok tnx
[06:07] <tarzeau> welcome
[06:07] <lotuspsychje_> weird, we tested it both on gnome3 and kde, bith crashed after few sec
[06:07] <lotuspsychje_> both
[06:08] <tarzeau> i'm on windowmaker
[06:08] <tarzeau> and i have standard qt theme, selected with that qtwhatever tool
[06:08] <tarzeau> qt5ct
[06:08] <tarzeau> i know that some themes crash/are broken from welle.io
[06:08] <tarzeau> so try another them
[06:08] <tarzeau> +e
[06:08] <lotuspsychje_> easy bug is becoming more complex lol
[06:08] <lotuspsychje_> doesnt crash on your side
[06:08] <tarzeau> no want screenshots?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje_> no, should crash right away
[06:09] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: whats the strace command you propose?
[06:10] <tarzeau> no doesn't crash, rock solid here. probably a config file or theme problem on your sides
[06:10] <tarzeau> strace qbittorrent
[06:10] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: it worked fine on previous version for ages, till the new update few days ago
[06:10] <tarzeau> then read the output in a terminal around the place it crashed
[06:10] <lotuspsychje_> i dont mess with themes neither
[06:12] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: http://dpaste.com/177HRVE
[06:12] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje_: that's gdb output not strace :)
[06:12] <tarzeau> i asked for strace output
[06:14] <lotuspsychje_> you want the whole stuff?
[06:14] <tarzeau> sure
[06:19] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hSjMVZw8zT/
[06:22] <tarzeau> oh shit NOT ENGRISH, export LC_ALL=en; LANG=en strace qt... would've ben helpful but let me see
[06:23] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xxDcB4NT3Z/
[06:24] <tarzeau> much better
[06:24] <tarzeau> you get any GUI or it crash right away?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje_> yeah gui for 3sec, then the crash
[06:25] <lotuspsychje_> not triggered by something, just time
[06:25] <tarzeau> i can still start it and it comes up no crash
[06:26] <tarzeau> including searching toy story
[06:26] <lotuspsychje_> got other DE's to test on that box?
[06:26] <tarzeau> until line 1600 fonts and config files and stuff is loaded
[06:26] <tarzeau> and then 1672 it starts looking for icons 
[06:27] <tarzeau> theme stuff until 3400
[06:27] <tarzeau> qt plugins around 4100
[06:29] <lotuspsychje_> started from terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fg5Hypgcz7/
[06:31] <lotuspsychje_> maybe the maintainer overlooked something in the new update
[06:31] <tarzeau> i don't have /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtorrent-rasterbar.so.9
[06:32] <tarzeau> ah i do but i have it in /usr/lib not /lib
[06:32] <tarzeau> ls -lad /lib /usr/lib
[06:32] <tarzeau> says what for you?
[06:32] <tarzeau> probably not related to it
[06:33] <tarzeau> libstdc++.so.6 : std::__throw_length_error(char const*)+0x41
[06:33] <lotuspsychje_> ./lib -> usr/lib
[06:33] <tarzeau> because it seems to be that thing calling SIGABRT
[06:33] <tarzeau> but i'm not sure, just a guess
[06:33] <tarzeau> poll([{fd=5, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN}, {fd=15, events=POLLIN}, {fd=18, events=POLLIN}, {fd=62, events=POLLIN}], 7, 998terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what():  std::bad_alloc
[06:33] <tarzeau> line 6888
[06:34] <tarzeau> ls -la /etc/localtime says what?
[06:35] <tarzeau> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Oct  4 03:50 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Zurich
[06:35] <tarzeau> that's mine
[06:35] <lotuspsychje_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 okt 25 09:12 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Brussels
[06:35] <tarzeau> i have tzdata 2019c-3
[06:35] <tarzeau> and file says: /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Zurich: timezone data, version 2, 5 gmt time flags, 5 std time flags, no leap seconds, 119 transition times, 5 abbreviation chars
[06:36] <tarzeau> i set mine to Brussels too and and it's not crashing. what you can try is the same strace command with ltrace
[06:37] <tarzeau> tmp/apport_sandbox_c1wzs7rs/usr/lib/x86_64- looks strange, what says: which qbittorrent
[06:38] <tarzeau> you don't have snap/appimage for sure, right?
[06:38] <tarzeau> flatpak?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje_> no, apt version
[06:38] <tarzeau> ls -la /usr/bin/qbittorrent also says -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8919864 Feb  3 22:27 /usr/bin/qbittorrent
[06:38] <lotuspsychje_> ltrace: http://dpaste.com/245X5KG
[06:39] <tarzeau> ps -ef |grep -i apparmor output empty?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje_> lotusps+  860578  840396  0 07:39 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i apparmor
[06:40] <tarzeau> no idea sorry
[06:40] <lotuspsychje_> happens the same on blueskaj's box on kde 20.04
[06:40] <lotuspsychje_> was also working fine before update there
[06:41] <lotuspsychje_> but what have gnome3 and kde in common, that windowmaker havent
[06:54] <tarzeau> no idea, try with wmaker then :)
[06:55] <tarzeau> but i doubt it matters
[06:55] <tarzeau> can you run qt5ct ?
[06:55] <tarzeau> i have the style "Fusion"
[06:55] <lotuspsychje_> whats that
[06:55] <tarzeau> apt install qt5ct; qt5ct
[06:55] <tarzeau> qt configuration tool, theme selection and your own fonts
[06:56] <tarzeau> i hate ubuntu fonts
[06:56] <lotuspsychje_> oh
[06:56] <tarzeau> i'm a futura/helvetica person
[06:57] <lotuspsychje_> i like to test 20.04 as vanilla as possible, from my customers perspective
[06:57] <lotuspsychje_> try to bug out everything by default
[06:57] <tarzeau> how many customers you got? using ansible to deploy?
[06:57] <tarzeau> how do you handle config files of users after upgrades?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: im running a small business from home, repair/sell computers with ubuntu lts and samsung ssd's
[06:58] <tarzeau> cool, i've got 1k customers, and 6 of them already have 20.04
[06:58] <lotuspsychje_> nice
[06:58] <tarzeau> one because 18.04 would not work on the laptop hardware
[06:59] <tarzeau> only x86_64 or also arm (raspberry/pine*)?
[06:59] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje_: since you're 20.04 could you apt install stacer shotcut ; and test them for me?
[07:00] <tarzeau> any video editing customers? 
[07:00] <lotuspsychje_> sure thing
[07:00] <tarzeau> music production?
[07:00] <tarzeau> graphics/dtp/text?
[07:00] <tarzeau> or photographers?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: most of my users are home/multimedia users
[07:00] <tarzeau> scientists?
[07:00] <tarzeau> also test hdrmerge then
[07:01] <tarzeau> fontmatrix, olive-editor
[07:01] <tarzeau> rtl-sdr?
[07:02] <tarzeau> i've got some nice things for multimedia/home: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan%40phys.ethz.ch
[07:02] <lotuspsychje_> whatever test you wanna do lemme know
[07:02] <tarzeau> all the packages i just named, install them, start them, report any problems you encounter
[07:03] <lotuspsychje_> will do
[07:03] <tarzeau> i also have photoflow packgaes, but it's hard to get them passed by sponsor/ftpmaster due to CC*licenses
[07:04] <lotuspsychje_> always handy to have 20.04 testing friends :p
[07:04] <tarzeau> but can provide 20.04 binary pkgs if you have a photographer wanting to test it
[07:04] <lotuspsychje_> are you member yet of the ubuntu-discuss LP team tarzeau ?
[07:04] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje_: you got to also try apt install cool-retro-term ;)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje_> got that one installed too
[07:04] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje_: no idea, probably not, and i hate email/mailing lists
[07:05] <tarzeau> like it?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje_> yep, and works pretty well
[07:05] <tarzeau> what are you doing about chromium-browser now? we just don't install it anymore
[07:05] <lotuspsychje_> me neither, im continue with FF now its gone snappy
[07:05] <tarzeau> can you also test: ministocks ?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje_> i was a big fan of it before
[07:06] <lotuspsychje_> sure
[07:06] <tarzeau> i have an extra mac with safari for surfing :)
[07:06] <tarzeau> i've never liked netscape/mozilla
[07:06] <tarzeau> did you ever build firefox from source? 
[07:06] <lotuspsychje_> no
[07:06] <tarzeau> try
[07:16] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: stacer looks cool man tnx
[07:18] <lotuspsychje_> and services enable/disable!!!
[07:18] <lotuspsychje_> cool
[07:18] <lotuspsychje_> i was looking for some systemd gui manager
[07:18] <tarzeau> you're welcome :)
[07:19] <tarzeau> if i got a 1$ for "cool" or "thanks" i'd be rich
[07:19] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[07:19] <lotuspsychje_> tarzeau: shotcut,olive and fontmatrix seems to launch well and pretty responsive too
[07:19] <tarzeau> there's also flowblade, but it's broken because of gmic
[07:23] <lotuspsychje_> coffeebreak first
[08:02] <ducasse> !info firefox
[08:27] <lotuspsychje_> guiverc: if youre up to it try this: bug #1862016
[08:27] <lotuspsychje_> install & launch, easy bug test :p
[08:37] <guiverc> lotuspsychje, i installed qbittorrent, started via menu & it's sitting there, no crashes.  my DE is Lubuntu (LXQt) so possibly it's a missing dependency rule; one my Qt based desktop includes, your GTK+ base doesn't??
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: we tested on kde & gnome3 
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau tested on windowmaker where it also doesnt happen
[08:38] <tarzeau> it's not crashing?
[08:38] <tarzeau> blame gnome3 + kde then :) hahaha
[08:38] <guiverc> okay; I have tried using it beyond loading .. nope still a window on my other monitor... My box isn't standard, but has multiple desktops so loads bloat
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:39] <guiverc> sorry .. I haven't tried using it... my desktop has loads of bloat (XFCE, MATE, GNOME & LXQt.. it's bloated)
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> tnx for trying guiverc 
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> we can narrow down things like this
[08:40] <guiverc> using it meaning trying to download a torrent; I can if you want..  let it download a few % of something
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: try the search plugin
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: but here on our side, after 3sec it crashes
[08:41] <guiverc> it knows I've had a hard day; so is being 'kind' to me :)
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[08:43] <guiverc> okay I told it to start downloading lubuntu 19.10 (magnet file from lubuntu.me) and pretty quickly it crashed.... crash file in /var/crash - I'll file that
[08:47] <tarzeau> guiverc: dpkg -l | wc -l ?
[08:47] <tarzeau> says 6371 for me
[08:47] <tarzeau> ls /usr/bin|wc -l
[08:47] <tarzeau> 6052 for me
[08:47] <guiverc> tarzeau, I shouldn't be talking about 'bloat' then... I'm only 4470
[08:48] <tarzeau> :) did we already check https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=qbittorrent;dist=unstable ?
[08:49] <tarzeau> and? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=qbittorrent&search=Search%20Bug%20Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=&orderby=-heat&start=0 
[08:49] <tarzeau> (sorted by heat)
[08:49] <guiverc> I've got a 'bullseye' box here I could have a try on, but not today
[08:49] <tarzeau> i've got 20.04 LTS, doesn't crash for me, also got sid
[08:49] <tarzeau> can you try with a new user? (no config files)?
[08:51] <guiverc> probably a better 'test' would be a different box that is pretty clean (ie. recent qa-test install), but don't have time currently sorry.
[08:51] <guiverc> today & last couple of days is 18.04.4 qa...
[08:51] <ducasse> petter@odin:~ $ dpkg -l | wc -l
[08:51] <ducasse> 2125
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: can you affect to the bug?
[09:59] <guiverc> sorry, I don't follow
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: or its not qbittorrent that crashed?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> nvm, reading your updates :p
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[10:01] <guiverc> if you're talking about 1862016 - i clicked affects me too.  qbittorrent crashed for me too
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> +1 guiverc thank you
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> wb Ussat 
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> affected & confirmed bug #1862169
[13:48] <Ussat> o/
[14:06] <Blade> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[14:06] <Blade> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 5.5.2-050502-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.34.3 
[14:06] <Blade>            Distro: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> dont Blade 
[14:06] <Blade> offff
[14:06] <Blade> ok
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: fontmatrix updates in 20.04 :p
[14:25] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: i re-introduced it (fell out because of qt4 :)
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> ah cool :p
[14:25] <tarzeau> you're welcome
[14:25] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: now tried ministocks yet?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: i installed it, but how do you use it exactly?
[14:28] <tarzeau> you run: MiniStocks ?
[14:28] <tarzeau> rmb for settings
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> command not found
[14:30] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: /usr/bin/MiniStocks ?
[14:30] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: did you really install ministocks? dpkg -l ministocks says what?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah installed version: 0+git20200120-1
[14:31] <tarzeau> i can start it and i get a small window, with ^SPX AAPL.US GOOG.US
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> i dont need a reboot or something?
[14:31] <tarzeau> what for?
[14:32] <tarzeau> no of course not
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> beats me tarzeau 
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> http://dpaste.com/38PFKEG
[14:38] <tarzeau> it's MiniStocks not ministocks
[14:38] <tarzeau> case matters
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> oh
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> ok that works
[14:38] <tarzeau> dpkg -L pkg (lists you all files of an installed pkg)
[14:39] <tarzeau> |grep bin is often helpful
[14:39] <tarzeau> it's not just 0 for you?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> 0 what?
[14:40] <tarzeau> does it show you any stocks?
[14:40] <tarzeau> https://github.com/Dakostu/MiniStocks it's very minimal, but i needed/wanted something for on linux
[14:40] <tarzeau> of course iOS Stocks is way superior
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> https://imgur.com/a/uTvRJkP
[14:41] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: yeah works, cool :)
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> they still need to work on the icon for gnome
[14:41] <tarzeau> you added the last 3 yourself?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> no, worked out of the box
[14:41] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: https://github.com/Dakostu/MiniStocks/issues/5
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> cool