[13:48] tseliot: will nvidia 340 stay in focal? the one risk I see is if there's no renamed hwe stack anymore it'd get removed once the abi is broken [13:50] when src:xorg-server is synced from a newer release [13:53] tjaalton, new X abi means no nvidia-340. When are we going to get the new X ABI? [13:58] no idea [13:59] probably not before 20.10 [13:59] so maybe keep it as is and let people to freeze xserver at 1.20 if they need the legacy blob [14:13] even if xserver 20 would be released this month, I wouldn't put it in focal [14:39] tjaalton, we need something to inform users. I don't want them to end up with a broken system if the try to install a new -hwe stack in 20.04, or in 18.04, for that matter [14:40] 18.04 won't change [14:41] as I said, there might not be a separate hwe stack [14:41] for focal [14:43] tjaalton, oh, I missed that [14:44] but I'm not sure how to inform users in that case [14:44] besides, they might not notice if nouveau has improved [14:44] which it better had with a newer mesa [14:45] which already is a rolling update [14:54] tjaalton, I think this needs a little planning with the desktop team [14:54] (informing users) [14:54] sure, in six months :) [14:54] I mean, there's time [14:54] more than that in fact [15:16] that's good