[00:29] <azx> Hey guys when my screen goes to sleep after about 10 minutes i have to turn off and then back on my monitor to get it to wake up
[00:29] <azx> or hit the computer power switch
[00:29] <azx> how can i change it so it wakes on mouse/keyboard?
[00:29] <azx> input
[00:41] <valorie> azx: probably in systemsettings
[00:42] <valorie> I would just: alt+space which is krunner
[00:42] <valorie> and type ... display, maybe
[00:43] <valorie> that will take you right to the configs
[00:47] <tomreyn> valorie: azx also asked in #linux btw.
[00:47] <tomreyn> * ##linux
[01:02] <azx> valorie: display settings have no sleep options
[01:02] <azx> i think it would be in some sort of power settings
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 KDE could be supported on a computer with Intel Pentium 2nd Generation ?
 With 4Gio of RAM ?
[02:30] <valorie> @Alang59 why not burn a USB and try it out?
[02:30] <valorie> it will be a bit more slow than an install, but still you can see what will work for you and what will not
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[22:27] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm looking for recommendations for a mouse. I'm using a Logitech M500 atm. Wired is a must, also some additional buttons would be nice. I don't need/want LED and I'd be open to try some kind of ergonomic mouse if I'd knew what works nicely with Kubuntu. Any ideas?
[22:33] <bprompt> Mrokii:  logitech's are fine, so you're golden already :)
[22:40] <Mrokii> bprompt: I'm not, as the M500 isn't reliable anymore. That's why I'm looking for a new one. :-)
[22:41] <bprompt> isn't reliable "anymore"?  you mean it used to, but now it isn't? as in it's out of fashion or just not functioning well?
[22:42] <bprompt> I mean, logitech mice are about the best ones you can find, that's pretty much Logitech's business, but there are many other "comparable" ones
[22:43] <Mrokii> bprompt: The buttons don't quite work all the time anymore. It's too old.
[22:43] <bprompt> then just get a new m500 =)
[22:44] <bprompt> hmmm there are many, all work on any OS pretty much
[22:44] <Mrokii> That would be one option, yes. I was just wondering if I should go for something different.
[22:51] <Mrokii> Oh well. I think I may really just get another M500, instead of experimenting with something else. A cheaper option than trying something new and fancy.
[22:55] <bprompt> well, mice aren't really that expensive, the technology is old but reliable, you can get a reliable mouse for less than $10US
[22:58] <Mrokii> I have used logitech exclusively for years and I'm not sure I can trust mice below $10. I guess I'll just get another M500.
[23:02] <bprompt> heheh
[23:04] <bprompt> Mrokii:  well, as I said, 15 years ago a good mouse cost about hmmmmmm $10 or $15 maybe, either Logitech or Microsoft or other brand, today without inflation adjustment they're $10 or less, which is much less than $15 years in buying power, mouse hardware prices are just subject to "Moore's Law", they're not cheap because they're unreliable, is just Moore's Law
[23:09] <Mrokii> bprompt: That's probably correct. But I still don't really trust extremely cheap mice. :-D
[23:10] <bprompt> well, I never said extremely cheap, but yes, you can get a lousy one, but if you stick to the range of $8-$15 you can get a nice new one that's reliable
[23:11] <bprompt> bearing in mind that adjusted for inflation from 15 years ago, today's $15 is about hmmmmmm half that, so you'd be getting a $7.5 mouse, however due to Moore's Law, a good mouse
[23:15] <Mrokii> You never said that, indeed. That's just my own mind, suggestsing that a mice around $10 is extremely cheap. But that's probably, at least in part, due to all those mice that go for $70 or more, which I think is kind of ridiculous.
[23:23] <bprompt> Mrokii:  if you want a mouse for $700, I'm your man!, sure I can go and dust one off and sell it to you for $700, yes, I'm aware that some folks like the "placebo effect", reason why some times marketing techniques to sell a product is to overprice it well over costs, otherwise it doesn't sell
[23:24] <bprompt> and there are other folks who like "horse trading", they want you to price it at $100 even though the actual price is $30, so they can haggle about =), though the haggling is all staged
[23:26] <Mrokii>  I think I can just barely control myself in regards to buying one of these (those?) fancy mice. :-)
[23:27] <bprompt> funny case:   there was this firm selling enterprise hardware, after checking and checking, they were going to sell it for 100K, but they knew it wasn't going to do too well, so, the way it came down, they advertised it fro $150K with a 50% off, reason why?  buyers liked the 50% off, even though it was all made up
[23:27] <Mrokii> bprompt: I know how staged haggling is ever since I saw Life Of Brian. :-D
[23:27] <bprompt> well, 30% off for that matter, but it was made  up, and they knew that worked better for their buyers
[23:28] <Mrokii> Yeah, that's the humans' psychology. Tell them there's x% off and they'll go for it, no matter what. Just as with "limited" editions.
[23:30] <bprompt> another funny case:  there were these two realty dealers, one told the other explicitly, "when you make the calculations, if the valuation came down to 100 million, tell me is 125 million, that way we go down to 100 million, because I like it that way", the other partner kinda laughed some, but understood
[23:32] <bprompt> Mrokii:  so, don't feel too bad that good mice are cheap :P
[23:32] <Mrokii> :-)
[23:32] <bprompt> but stick to the $8US - $15US range, and you're fine, logitech and microsoft's are pretty good
[23:34] <Mrokii> bprompt: Thanks, I'll take a look at what microsoft has to offer as well.
[23:34] <bprompt> Dell's are good as well
[23:35] <Mrokii> Okay...
[23:39] <Mrokii> bprompt: I need to leave. It's late at night here. Thanks for the suggestions.
[23:39] <bprompt> np
[23:39] <bprompt> late nite? meaning you're in Europe or Africa =)
[23:40] <Mrokii> bprompt: Yep, Europe. And I'm off now, for real. :-)
[23:55] <keithzg-M> Hrmm, finally upgraded my machine with a 4K display to 19.10 and I swear the fonts are blurry now. I don't have any scaling on though, so I wonder why that could be? Was anti-aliasing maybe not enabled by default previously?