=== monkeystance_ is now known as monkeystance === hggdh is now known as hggdh-msft [00:15] Anyone tried a windows guest in kvm. I installed the network drivers but it doesn't seem to have a network connection [00:16] what's the easiest way of configuring mail to send via a gmail account? [00:16] for system mail [00:32] entelin: i may not be aware of the easiest way, but i assume you can use ssmtp. [00:33] you may need to enable smtp functionality and authentication in gmail settings beforehand [00:34] ok yeah I just finished setting up ssmtp, seems like its working [01:11] omg -- how can anyone say ufw is easier than iptables?! [01:11] i definitely dont like this about ubuntu [01:12] ? [01:12] im coming from centos [01:12] ufw is just a tool to configure iptables [01:12] you dont have to use it [01:12] with iptables it's super easy to add rules [01:12] yeah then do that :P [01:12] really? [01:12] oh i thought i had to use it [01:12] iptables is the kernal firewall [01:12] So I'm getting a TON of errors with apt regarding python3 [01:13] I'm on Budgie 19.04 [01:13] I have NO IDEA why this is happening... Is there a way to fix this? [01:13] Processing was halted because there were too many errors. [01:13] entelin: then how come i cant start the service? [01:13] try reinstalling python3? [01:13] iptables isnt a service, its a kernel feature [01:14] sudo iptables -L [01:14] on centos it is [01:14] so it's not same then? [01:14] there are iptables "services" that save and restore firewall rules [01:14] celphi: I tried that [01:14] and that exists on ubuntu as well [01:14] `systemctl start iptables` works on centos7 not on ubuntu [01:15] iptables-save saves whatever your current iptables rules are into /etc/iptables.rules which is what the system reads at boot [01:16] well i think you pipe the output into that file actually [01:16] entelin: so how do i reapply the rules? [01:16] bc i normally do `systemctl restart iptables` [01:16] !19.04 | mrkotfw [01:16] mrkotfw: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) was the 30th release of Ubuntu, support ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html [01:17] so since it's not a service -- how does that work [01:18] you could use iptables-restore [01:18] lol wth [01:18] iptables -F destroyed my session [01:18] does ubuntu run it live or somethin? [01:18] i mean iptables is not a "service" anywhere, where it is a service it's just a script that runs these things anyway [01:19] iptables modifies iptables yeah thats the kernal tool [01:19] as always [01:19] mrkotfw: Only consider - It "might" be easier and quicker to back up your data and do a fresh install of a supported release. [01:20] there's like a million rules on this iptables list [01:20] personally I have a script with all my iptables statements, which I then just run to purge and apply it. Then when i'm done messing with it I use iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules [01:20] Bashing-om: This has never happened, but I might have to [01:20] a ton of ufw stuff [01:20] I don't understand how, if I haven't done any updates [01:20] yeah well then just purge the rules and do your own thing [01:20] how do i purge them? [01:20] uninstall ufw or whatever else, etc [01:20] i thought -F did that [01:21] mrkotfw: Well, wont gurt to show us what happens ; ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 '. [01:21] sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT [01:21] sudo iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT [01:21] sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT [01:21] sudo iptables -F [01:21] sudo iptables -X [01:21] sudo iptables -t nat -F [01:21] hurt* [01:22] TheRedQueen: He did that as a mistake [01:22] Bashing-om: https://termbin.com/vam7 [01:22] Bashing-om: This is with "apt install -f" [01:22] Can someone take entelin off of mute- [01:22] celphi: Sure, but it's a bot. [01:22] Are there any mods in room? [01:23] It'll be off again in a minute. [01:23] !info python3 disco [01:23] python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.7.3-1 (disco), package size 46 kB, installed size 187 kB [01:25] oops lol [01:26] anyway http://codepad.org/zpjo1T9D thats what I do to wipe all iptables rules and set default allow [01:26] then I have a script that runs all my iptables commands, this way I can organize it and comment things [01:27] iptables itself is the system tool for live modification of the rules [01:27] so i add those rules then delete those rules after they clear the tables? [01:27] mrkotfw: Try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure python3 ' as soon as this system is stable - release upgrade time! [01:28] that script does that, it deletes all rules and sets default allow [01:28] /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python3 is broken or not fully [01:28] installed [01:28] so if you saved that, that's how your system would boot [01:28] Bashing-om: I'm reinstalling the OS -- thanks for the help [01:29] At that point, if dpkg-reconfigure is broken, I'm giving up [01:29] but if you don't know iptables well, you may be better off using a firewall config tool [01:29] all of that ultimately just makes rules and runs iptables in the end though [01:30] entelin: i usually have my rules like this [01:30] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0XYzxH73/image.png [01:30] mrkotfw: Yup - Python is close to the guts. [01:32] celphi, so it looks like you are setting default permit on everything, then permitting more stuff based on state [01:32] right i typically white label certain ips [01:32] you're probably going to want to start with default drop on everything and then open things [01:33] i use this at bottom [01:33] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/64RyYmr3/image.png [01:34] maybe i should just learn ufw [01:35] you might want to, I'm not familiar with ufw, it's not going to be the only one available [01:35] which one do you recommnd? [01:35] I don't know any of them, I've always used iptables directly. But I know firewalling pretty well [01:36] im just trying to setup to allow port 80 and 22 [01:36] and to use fail2ban with it [01:36] i know how to set that up on centos but not ubuntu [01:36] sec [01:38] here: http://codepad.org/iXa1Mmp1 [01:39] that's the kind of thing I do. You might want to put the clear commands at the top to wipe the tables before this runs [01:40] that blocks basically everything including some bad state combinations, then permits new connections outbound, and related traffic and ssh inbound [01:42] it may make plenty of sense to block all outgoing connections except the ports that you need. This is by no means the most secure you could make a firewall ruleset, but it's a good basic start [01:42] k [01:42] I'm trying to compile an application that uses the wide character set functions. Unfortunately, ld is picking up the wrong library file and I don't know which library file contains __wcslen_sse2 . [02:05] im following this guide and it ends my session everytime i add the default rules: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-a-firewall-with-ufw-on-an-ubuntu-and-debian-cloud-server === smacktalk_ is now known as smacktalk === smacktalk is now known as smacktalk_ === smacktalk_ is now known as smacktalk [02:43] Oh no. my system just slowed way down. kern.log is filling with messages "ata5.00: status: { DRDY ERR }" and "ata5.01 status: {DRDY ERR}" [02:43] I've several drives attached. How can I find which drive is associated with "ata5.00" ? [02:46] its at the start of syslog, try dmesg | grep ata5.00 | head -5 [02:47] bindi: Thank you! I'll go look. [02:47] increase number of head if that isn't helping, its just to get rid of the spam [02:48] The log must have rolled over. the log file is just LOADED with those messages. [02:49] Good gawd. syslog is more an 8M long. [02:50] the dmesg buffer must have cycled around. [02:51] It's ... this makes no sense.. it's reporting ATAPI: ATAPI iHDP118 . [02:52] a dvd drive? [02:53] There are two DVD drives in the system, both on a PATA interface. but I can't figure out why ubuntu is probing them. [02:53] But it's doing it at 1 second intervals. [02:53] it probes all devices during boot. [02:54] That I understand. I mean, it has to identify all attached devices. [02:54] "ata5.00: status: { DRDY ERR }" and "ata5.01 status: {DRDY ERR}" would make me think bad disk, at leats bad wire [02:55] MarkB2: which ubuntu version is this? [02:55] 18.04 64-bit LTS. === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:55] Perhaps I should power down the toy and reseat the PATA cable? [02:55] so you have a systemd journal which should have all records [02:56] journalctl -b to review anything logged since last boot [02:56] add -p3 to filter errors only. [02:57] is ata5.01 a dvd drive, though? [02:58] The journal is full of these error messages. How can I identify what device ata5.00 and ata5.01 are associated with? [02:59] journalctl -b | grep -F ata5.00 [02:59] journalctl -b | grep -F ata5.00 | head [02:59] the latter rather [03:00] and then the same for ata5.01 [03:00] Does ubuntu call SATA and PATA "ATAPI" internally? [03:01] ATAPI can be on top of either, i think [03:02] Alright.. it looks like ubuntu is complaining about the PATA interface. And often, too. will return shortly.. getting inside the box is straightforward but the cables are at the bottom. back in a bit. [03:12] Reseated the cable, all three connectors. [03:13] MarkB2: are the errors gone then? [03:13] That ..seems.. to have stopped the shouting... now am seeing a boatload of errors from all the other installed things that I've never seen before. [03:14] Gnome calculator just has to announce itself, verbosely, into syslog. [03:14] can you share the log? journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 && journalctl -b -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:16] Should I have expected the journal log to have restarted on a reboot? [03:17] Here's an error I didn't expect: [03:17] Feb 08 22:08:26 duo smartd[845]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors [03:17] Feb 08 22:08:26 duo smartd[845]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Offline uncorrectable sectors [03:18] MarkB2: systemd journal captures all logs available until a certain disp space limit is reached (4 GB if you have plenty of spare space) [03:18] *disK [03:19] so sda is showing physical decay, replace it. [03:20] or check its statistics first and consider how soon you should replace it, [03:20] That's ... not so easy. That drive has a Win7 install. When Microsoft discontinued Win7 support, they seem to have locked out new installs. [03:21] The first journalctl command resulted in a 223455 byte long file. The second 12682 bytes. [03:22] should have resulted in urls rather ;) [03:22] do you want the journal files compressed? Or just lots of ascii? [03:23] if you're ok with sharing it, just run the commands and post the urls [03:24] No problems sharing. But those error are not in the j.1 and j.2 files (just created by journalctl -b >j.1 etc). [03:25] *errors [03:25] Wow. kern.log is more than 9M long. [03:25] maybe others are, and those logs will provide a general picture on the system. you can also post smartctl -x /dev/sda if you like [03:27] kern.log? this would usuall ynot exist on 18.04 LTS unless you configured it manually (maybe it's an old configuration which is present from several release upgrades still) [03:30] kern.log ... it was in an old 16.04 .. and is still there on a complete reload of 18.04 . [03:31] actually i may be misremembering, i just purged rsyslog off systems because i don't need it. [03:36] Installed the smart utilities maybe an hour ago while trying to figure this out. Hadn't known they existed until a frantic search on "ubuntu which device is ata5.00 and ata5.01 ? [03:38] Those searches sent me to /sys/class/ata_devices and there is "dev5.0" pointing at ata5. But all the devices looks like they're ata devices so that did me no good. [03:39] ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/*-ata* [03:40] MarkB2: when it comes to IO errors it could be anywhere along the line. maybe the drive itself even. [03:40] I remember that one. And there isn't a "5" anywhere in that list. [03:40] MarkB2: you still have IDE on this system? [03:40] And now smartd pops up an message: Feb 8 22:38:27 duo smartd[845]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 7 Seek_Error_Rate changed from 200 to 100 [03:41] ryuo: The hard drives are SATA. The two CDROM drives are PATA . [03:41] ancient. [03:41] What, the PATA drives? [03:41] yea. [03:42] anyway. [03:42] There are two remaining SATA sockets on the motherboard.. and those are supposed to be for some kind of RAID operation. [03:44] MarkB2: do you get any use out of the optical drives still? [03:45] ryuo: Most of the installed software base comes from CD or DVD. And once in a while I'll stuff a DVD in there to view. [03:46] so you only really need one. [03:46] ryuo: So, yes, I still use those drives. [03:46] No? [03:46] True. Could unplug one and leave it in there when the other dies. [03:46] either way i don't usually install even a SATA optical drive these days. [03:47] But plugging in a SATA-based drive would be the tail-wagging-the-dog as it's out of SATA ports. [03:47] Yah.. thumb drives are The Thing nowadays. [03:47] nah i meant more like i use USB optical drives. [03:48] internal ones aren't as useful to me anymore since they're not portable. [03:48] This tank of a computer isn't portable either. :-) [03:48] it sounds ancient. [03:48] IDE was phased out entirely from motherboards a long time ago. [03:49] is your system 64 bit capable at least? [03:50] ubuntu is phasing out full support for 32 bit only platforms [03:50] for now they are keeping 32 bit libs though. [03:50] The motherboard is based on a Core 2 Quad and, yes, it's 64-bit capable. I was pleasantly surprised to find out it'll run Windows 7, Windows 10, and ubuntu 64-bit. [03:50] By the way... [03:51] yea, that's really old. 2008-2010. [03:51] Anyone run into the problem of a terminal suddenly issuing beeps. [03:51] ? [03:51] that's part of system sound theme. [03:51] you can disable it somewhere. [03:52] When that beeping starts up, it's like the Energizer Bunny. Keeps going and going and going... [03:52] it should be one beep per alert bell or so [03:52] Even killing the terminal doesn't always stop it. [03:52] and going and going [03:52] echo $'\a' [03:52] etc [03:54] energizer: LOL . Sorry. Thought I'd tripped a freenode daemon somewhere with the E-B comment. [03:54] MarkB2: np :) [03:55] MarkB2: it sounds like it's time for something new. that's 10 years old now. there's much faster AMD ryzen based systems at a fairly decent price, if you're still into custom builds. [03:55] more often happens in ##electronics and ##hardware [03:55] but your choice. [03:55] i'm still using Ivy Bridge for the time being. [03:55] for a mobile laptop no less [03:56] ~6 years old now [03:56] but very affordable. [03:56] ryuo: I'm saving for a 64-bit laptop. My old 32-bitter isn't welcome at ST-Micro workshops any more. [03:56] MarkB2: i see. you usually buy used stuff? [03:56] older stuff even. [03:57] MarkB2: i've noticed laptops tend to lose their value very quickly as they age... though it seems related to brand too in part. [03:57] The 32-bitter was a cast-off... and at the time I was unemployed. It's been a while since I've purchased a brand new box. [03:58] MarkB2: if you're saving for new, i'd suggest looking for something dell or lenovo in their business products. [03:58] most regular Dell laptops are Ubuntu certified. [03:58] you'd need to check their manual to be certain. [03:59] but i'm using a Latitude E5530 I restored from ebay parts. [03:59] it works great. [03:59] fully maxed out and at a bottom basement price due to its age. [04:00] has an i7-3632QM, because I wanted a quad core. :) [04:00] My work laptop is a Latitude E7450. It claims to be based on an i7 but wow, is it a dog. [04:00] slow? [04:00] Disgustingly so. [04:01] ryuo: In the push for new hardware: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Aims To Enhance The Certified OEM Experience From Its Installer [04:01] But they've tricked it out with VPN access to their servers so I can get something done with it. [04:01] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04-Certified-OEM-Exp [04:02] I see. [04:04] MarkB2: not surprising. mobile intel took a nose dive after ivy bridge because they switched to ultrabook processors which sacrificed performance over previous mobile processors. [04:04] MarkB2: though supposedly 8th generation processors have finally caught back up [04:05] that's a 5th gen ultrabook. [04:05] it appears [04:06] MarkB2: AMD Ryzen offers a good value for your buck at least. But read the reviews yourself online. If you do go looking for these, you'll probably want a dual channel memory model since that can greatly impact performance on these machines. [04:06] MarkB2: AMD Ryzen laptops. Ideally the 3rd generation. [04:07] 1st/2nd are good too but inferior. If going for new, may as well go for the latest if it's an option. [04:07] Linus Tech Tips recently reviewed a 64-core Ryzen processor. My workloads, esp. at home, don't need anywhere near that amount of horsepower. [04:07] We're getting 8c in a laptop with 'ryzen 4000' [04:07] that's for Desktop. I'm talking about Ryzen Mobile. [04:09] we're seeing some laptop vendors switching to Ryzen to stand out from the crowd more. apparently Intel isn't competitive enough for them right now. [04:09] I got this ZFS install that is halted and unavailable, won't boot. But it still says it is "rpool" and has an id. Can I recover something from it? [04:12] Are the Ryzen devices subject to the Spectre and Meltdown faults? [04:12] MarkB2: the latest ones have had hardware level fixes applied [04:13] i think 1st gen only has microcode. [04:13] MarkB2: but here's the thing. Spectre was the main one that affected AMD and pretty much all similar CPU models. [04:13] MarkB2: almost all the other ones are Intel only. [04:13] MarkB2: Meltdown, etc. [04:14] vion: did you try import the pool in a live CD or so? [04:15] ryuo: yes even used the -f switch [04:15] vion: is it listed in zpool list [04:15] ryuo import shows it but its not in the list [04:16] ryou do you mean zpool status? [04:16] err yea [04:16] sorry i don't use zpool too often. [04:16] vion: try asking in #zfsonlinux channel [04:16] they would know more since they wrote the port [04:18] ryuo tyvm will do [04:19] Am trying to configure a package before doing a make.. and it wants "jogl2". So I install libjogl2 (it's part of a Java package) and still the configure fails because it can't find javax.media.opengl.glu.GLUnurbs . [04:19] Maybe it's in one of the OpenGL packages. [04:19] ryuo btw I like amd too, but why do the motherboards used always have such awful cooling setups [04:20] vion: no idea. i haven't built a custom PC in years. [04:20] I like intel motherboards and amd cpus [04:22] MarkB2: or maybe it wants the JNI version. [04:22] MarkB2: I saw 2 versions of it in the repos [04:23] MarkB2: I wouldn't compile anything that had a dependency called GLUnurbs. Doesn't java have its own repository manager for handling dependencies? [04:24] GLUnurbs ...should be part of the OpenGL package. But I've already got that installed. [04:27] MarkB2: Vulkan? [04:27] MarkB2: good luck with your search. i just suggest Dell Latitude and Lenovo Thinkpads. Business laptops that work pretty well with Linux, particularly Ubuntu. [04:28] MarkB2: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426 [04:28] MarkB2: useful links [04:30] ryuo I got one of those latitude 7404s and says some came with ubuntu preinstalled yet my touchscreen is not working. Do I enable it in settings somewhere or press a key? [04:31] vion: it's a 14" rugged? [04:31] ryuo yes [04:31] i'd suggest upgrading the BIOS if you haven't done so in ages. [04:31] you should be able to do it from FreeDOS [04:31] but to answer your question [04:32] let's see what it has. [04:32] vion: can you pastebin your lsusb output? [04:32] I probably forgot about doing that. I heard you can just dump the windows executable into the boot directory and those modern bios would take care of it [04:32] this isn't modern enough for that. [04:32] you'll need to run the updater from Windows or FreeDOS but this should be the last update it'll ever need [04:33] then the Dell laptop reboots and does the BIOS update from there [04:33] I'm not on it right now but will hit it up tomorrow [04:34] vion: truth is, there's a number of ways touchscreens can be connected. [04:34] you have to have drivers for the BUS as well as the touchscreen, etc. [04:34] i've seen RS232, PS/2, USB, and I2C. [04:34] hold up I'm sure I did the bios update when it had win10 installed because apparently windows wouldn't do any updates until the bios was manually updated [04:35] vion: was it a BIOS from 2019? [04:35] yes 29 july 2019 the latest [04:35] ok then you're good there [04:36] Ah. eGalax. [04:36] It just had to be eGalax. [04:36] * vion stares at fc5dc9d4 [04:37] eGalax? [04:37] a brand of touchscreen. there's a windows 7 drive for it here so it must be the type of screen. [04:39] vion: to tell you anything specific i would need to see output of commands and such. [04:39] maybe you suffer this bug, with workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1850130 [04:39] Launchpad bug 1850130 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "zpools fail to import after reboot on fresh install of eoan" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:40] smartd is reporting disk drives have temperatures past 100C. [04:41] 100F would be great [04:42] Agreed. But 100C? I can put a hand on the drives and they're not that hot. [04:43] ryuo I will see if I can get hold of it sometime soon, my dude literally fell asleep on it. [04:46] oerheks: you linking that to me? thanks [04:46] MarkB2: are you short stroking those drives for a speed boost? Do they have some screwy chipset firmware? [04:47] AHCI right? [04:48] vion: Earlier I had a bad scare as log files were filling with drive error messages. After some calming words from the cognoscenti here, the problem was traced to a loose cable. [04:48] In the process I'd installed a couple of utilities (smartd for one)... and now they're issuing little notes about things it doesn't like. [04:48] Drives at 100C being one of them. [04:50] Funny you should bring up AHCI. Last week I had to switch the BIOS to AHCI to get an external drive enclosure running. That worked.. but when I rebooted the system to the previous node, every OS wanted to chkdsk or fsck the daylights out of the drives. [04:52] MarkB IDE mode is crap that only exists to give you poor performance. I got my SSD raid setup and I never looked back. [04:52] lets focus on actual ubuntu support issues instead of discussions please [04:53] we have a nice discuss channel you can use 24/7 [04:59] I have a znc that is joined two networks. When I connect I only see one network. How do I view the other? [04:59] robertparkerx: a question for ##networking ? [04:59] robertparkerx dmz? [05:00] a bouncer [05:00] znc [05:01] robertparkerx: does this have to do with IRC? [05:01] /join #znc [05:03] tomreyn with ubuntu's use of systemd, apparmor and other inventions its probably quite different than the norm which is nice it leads the charge [05:04] vion: that's fine with me. [05:08] tomreyn: passing the buck leads to partisan limbo for these things, also ufw another system specific consideration [05:10] robertparkerx: did you install it as a snap or through apt? (again another system specific thing) [05:11] I got it [05:11] quote PASS /: [05:12] robertparkerx: its working? try a few tests [05:14] vion: i don't know exactly what you're talking about or why you're telling me. if you'd like to discuss ubuntu, #ubuntu-discuss is a good place for that. [05:15] tomreyn: I'm in both channels, but you may message me if its something important [05:17] lotuspsychej: did you have a question for me? === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc === luckybunny is now known as WearyIntern [06:09] I'm running ubuntu 18.04 lts x64 with nvidia quadrom graphics card. I've been experiencing random (at least seems like) sreen dimming while watching movies in vlc. I have the most up to date driversI've tried caffeine but doesn't seem to work. Any ideas of a fix? [06:12] ax562: are you using drivers from the repos or the graphics-drivers ppa? [06:14] ducasse graphics driver ppa [06:14] ducasse: [06:15] right, then i'm not sure, sorry [06:15] cool thanks [06:15] ax562, the only thing I could think of is check if the computer firmware/bios has a setting for power saving the screen? Is this a laptop or desktop? [06:16] There any software that I can remote into an Android phone from a computer, without using a third-party server? [06:17] Goop, for recommendations, it is better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic. This chanel focuses on supporting software that is already installed and provided through the official Ubuntu software channels [06:17] pragmaticenigma: laptop [06:18] Goop: you'd most likely need something like a vnc server, but try #android [06:18] I'm pretty sure I've disabled settings a while back but I can double check [06:18] ax562, I would then check the firmware/bios ... dimming after an amount of time sounds more like a power management feature than a graphics driver issue [06:21] pragmaticenigma: thanks. I will double check shortly. I was reading up on modifying dconf from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063396/ubuntu-18-04-brightness-dims-when-screen-is-not-static . Does that make any sense? [06:23] I'm not sure... I haven't had much experience with laptops having non-Intel GPUs in them [06:25] ty [06:36] pragmaticenigma: the dconf has a lot of interesting power, dimming, etc options. used this sudo apt-get install dconf-editor [06:37] i'll see if it works [06:37] once i log out I will double check bios [06:40] sounds like a good path... remember to take notes so you can put things back if they don't work or have the desired effect [06:42] Hello, if I install Ubuntu 19.10, will it be possible to a dist-upgrade to 20.04 LTS [06:43] can I disable persistence in ubuntu [06:43] For the main OS I want it to be gone. [06:43] just like live USB [06:44] littlekimmy, No there is no such feature... Why don't you look at something like Tails? https://tails.boum.org/ [06:44] dsofeir, Yes, 19.10 will be able to update to 20.04 when it is ready [06:45] dsofeir, however, do note that starting with 19.10 will place you in the regular release schedule. If you are hoping to only get LTS releases after upgrading to 20.04, you will need to make a change to your package manager settings to pick up only on LTS releases [06:46] dsofeir: yes [07:01] Hello. I need to set apt to allow installs from a ppa I want to use. [07:02] How do I do that? [07:05] jsync: Take a look at apt-add-repository(1) [07:10] It says no_pubkey, & bionic has new security that tells me updates are disabled. [07:10] jsync: the web page for the ppa should have instructions [07:11] Nope. Not for a system that wants to tell me my adding a ppa is pointless & against the rules suddenly. [07:11] I should be able to disable new ubuntu rules, buds. [07:11] can you pastebin the exact error? [07:13] pragmaticenigma: Thank you [07:13] GPG error the public key is not available. In release is not signed, etc. [07:14] Updating from an unsigned repository is disabled by default. How do I enable it? [07:15] you need to add the correct key [07:17] which ppa is this? [07:26] Xenial. [07:27] These instructions suggest update-alternatives --remove-all gcc [07:28] no, which repo - where are the packages from? [07:30] Unrecognized option --slave? [07:31] It's trying to help me configure how to compile a software. [07:45] if you post a link to the repo we can try to help, without it we won't get far [07:51] They gave spotty instructions, that was the problem, & they're outdated. Thanks anyway. === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [08:38] How to estimate idle power consumption of a ubuntu machine? [08:47] get a kill-a-watt [08:47] other than that, see if powertop can help [08:57] What is your idle hdd temperature in ubuntu? [08:58] I am wondering what should be its range. [08:58] on my machine hdd temperature is at 36C without load. [08:59] anything under 50C should be fine [09:01] Looks good then. [09:04] And we are really talking about HDDs, not SSDs here? [09:04] Yes, older HDDs from seagate === Leion1 is now known as Leion [09:05] quarterback: You are doing fine. My SSD in my laptop is as warm. :) [09:07] elias_a, I loaded ubuntu 18.04 on a old core2duo e7440 with 4gb ram and 160 GB hdd. The machine is pretty stable. The only issue is that after several hours of idle, the screen locks up and the login prompt disappears. This happened a few times. [09:08]