| === CarlenWhite_Err is now known as CarlenWhite | ||
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:47 |
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| jibel | bonjour oSoMoN | 06:50 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 06:58 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN, jibel, ricotz and pieq | 06:59 |
| pieq | hey duflu ! | 06:59 |
| jibel | hi all | 07:00 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:29 |
| oSoMoN | salut pieq | 07:29 |
| oSoMoN | morning ricotz | 07:30 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 07:34 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:17 |
| jibel | could someone release https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/autopilot/+git/autopilot/+ref/master ? | 08:24 |
| jibel | it removes the last bits of deps on Qt4 | 08:25 |
| jibel | xnox, ^ | 08:25 |
| marcustomlinson | morning oSoMoN jibel duflu pieq ricotz didrocks | 08:55 |
| Laney | helloooooo | 09:01 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Laney | 09:04 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson and Laney | 09:05 |
| oSoMoN | morning marcustomlinson, Laney | 09:12 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson, Laney, duflu | 09:16 |
| Laney | wooooooooo | 09:20 |
| Laney | hi marcustomlinson duflu oSoMoN didrocks! | 09:20 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 09:20 |
| marcustomlinson | distracted... watching the snow outside my window | 09:21 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 09:21 |
| oSoMoN | going ok here, like a Monday with tons of things to do this week | 09:21 |
| didrocks | good, and you? | 09:23 |
| Laney | alllllllllllllrigggghhhtttttttt | 09:25 |
| Laney | enjoyed watching the storm yesterday | 09:25 |
| didrocks | it was 13°C at 8am, crazy! | 09:25 |
| Laney | summer time kids | 09:26 |
| RikMills | jibel: unity-autopilot from src:unity also deps on window-mocker. are you intending to drop that as well? | 09:26 |
| jibel | RikMills, no I didn't plan to do that, but any maintainer of unity can do it. I don't have upload rights, it's a single line to remove from the control file and the tests are skipped if window-mocker is not installer | 09:34 |
| jibel | installed* | 09:34 |
| jibel | OOC why qt4 is not removed from windowmocker instead of removing windowmocker from all the packages that depend on it? | 09:35 |
| RikMills | jibel: apologies. I thought you were core-dev or otherwise had rights. regards where in the chain to drop the dep, I think there have just been a few conversions that didn't quite 'join up' in their conclusions. the qt4 window-mocker dep has to go if window-mocker stays in the archive | 09:43 |
| xnox | jibel: tah, will upload in a second. | 09:57 |
| xnox | jibel: the question i have is if unity-autopilot is used at all by anything, or even run anywhere. | 10:00 |
| jibel | xnox, it's the functional test suite of unity, so I don't think it's used anywhere outside of unity. | 10:06 |
| jibel | that's a question for the current devs of unity | 10:06 |
| Laney | that's enough yak shaving on eds | 11:20 |
| diddledan | bald yaks?! | 11:22 |
| diddledan | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5nl7XXD7cS4/Ta1gB9T8e5I/AAAAAAAAAKQ/sXMLuqIfG8s/s1600/gangri+norbu.JPG | 11:22 |
| Laney | nicely coiffured hipster yaks | 11:23 |
| Laney | actually you probably couldn't call anything about e-d-s hipster in any way | 11:23 |
| Saviq | didrocks: Hey, I've to set up my laptop fresh, was wanting to use your guys' zsys work, is there a way to have it with encryption yet? | 11:33 |
| Saviq | jibel: you may know, too? ^ | 11:40 |
| jibel | Saviq, Hi, we won't enable encryption this cycle. We noticed some performance issues and don't have enough confidence to enable it by default for all the datasets. | 12:36 |
| Saviq | jibel: that's subvolume encryption? How about full disk? | 12:36 |
| jibel | Saviq, however you can still encrypt your home datasets for example by creating a new dataset with encryption on then export/import your data | 12:37 |
| jibel | that's for full disk, we won't enable encryption when the main pool is created | 12:37 |
| jibel | but you can still to it for individual datasets | 12:37 |
| === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer | ||
| Saviq | jibel: any way to tell zsys to do its stuff on luks-encrypted volumes? | 12:40 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: can you add the desktop team subscription to fonts-urw-base35 for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-urw-base35/+bug/1862048 ? | 12:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862048 in ghostscript (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-urw-base35" [High,New] | 12:40 |
| jibel | Saviq, no, if you want to use luks + zfs you have to do it manually | 12:41 |
| Saviq | Ack, thanks | 12:41 |
| Saviq | Let's see if the focal installer works :) | 12:42 |
| diddledan | doing ZFS on top of another technology like LUKS or the BSD equivalent is usually advised against by ZFS upstream IIRC | 12:42 |
| Saviq | Sure, makes sense :) | 12:42 |
| diddledan | it's best to let ZFS use the drive directly :-) | 12:42 |
| diddledan | having an extra layer means ZFS doesn't know the true topology so it can't optimise correctly, possibly causing issues | 12:43 |
| Saviq | Home dataset would work, too, would I need to unlock manually before logging in? | 12:43 |
| didrocks | Saviq: yes, there is no integration yet AFAIK | 13:35 |
| didrocks | Laney: mind subscribing desktop-packages to fonts-urw-base35? Only you and seb are admin for this team | 13:36 |
| didrocks | cc cpaelzer ^ | 13:36 |
| tkamppeter | didrocks, exactly this I wanted to say here. | 13:45 |
| tkamppeter | And I have a MER for gsfonts now. | 13:45 |
| tkamppeter | See bug 1862048. | 13:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1862048 in ghostscript (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-urw-base35" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862048 | 13:46 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: please get the team subscribed as well before filing the MIR | 14:11 |
| tkamppeter | didrocks, OK, sorry that I forgot it. Now it's ACKed at least. Hope this did not break something. I have subscribed the team at least after the fact. | 14:17 |
| didrocks | good, thanks tkamppeter | 14:18 |
| Laney | okey dokey | 14:18 |
| Laney | done | 14:18 |
| tkamppeter | didrocks, can someone report a bug on libwmf and python-reportlab to move from (unmaintained) gsfonts to (maintained and current) fonts-urw-base35? | 14:19 |
| didrocks | you? :p | 14:20 |
| Laney | indeed | 14:20 |
| tkamppeter | I tried but Launchpad oopses and deletes everything what I wrote. | 14:20 |
| Laney | there's no reason that would be better for anyone else though | 14:20 |
| tkamppeter | OK, I will edit externally and then cycle until LP accepts. | 14:21 |
| Laney | Wait ten minutes; there's a known LP bug in this area and that's the remedy | 14:21 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, and what is this known bug? | 14:22 |
| Laney | Something about postgres | 14:22 |
| Laney | don't know the details, sorry :( | 14:22 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, but what will happen in 10 minutes? | 14:23 |
| Laney | That's how long the bug usually persists for, if it's the same one | 14:23 |
| Laney | imagine if it's some maintenance task which takes that long to run | 14:24 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, I tried to report s new bug. | 14:24 |
| tkamppeter | Or does it mean that it takes these 10 minutes until my account gets unblocked from the postgres bug? | 14:26 |
| GunnarHj | bluesabre: Hello Sean, do you have time to sponsor the debdiff at bug #1861481? | 14:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1861481 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1861481 | 14:27 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: Just wait ten minutes and try again, and if you still can't then maybe ask #launchpad to look at the OOPS ID you get | 14:31 |
| === icey_ is now known as icey | ||
| tkamppeter | Laney, I succeeded now: bug 1862641 | 14:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1862641 in python-reportlab (Ubuntu) "Please replace the dependency on gsfonts by fonts-urw-base35" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862641 | 14:45 |
| Laney | great | 14:47 |
| Laney | You might be better off filing those at Debian, and attaching patches | 14:47 |
| Laney | to have the best chance of success | 14:47 |
| Laney | TIL about F-strings in python | 15:24 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 15:53 |
| hellsworth | i'm trying to reproduce a bug locally but it requires a working kerberos environment. is there a kerberos server somewhere I could use or should I actually go through with setting up a kerberos server/client? | 15:54 |
| hellsworth | it looks like setting up a kerberos server is a bit of a pain so though i'd ask before committing to that | 15:55 |
| Laney | tseliot: can I flag https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/+bug/1862499 to you please? | 15:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862499 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-compute-utils-440 440.59-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: installed nvidia-compute-utils-440 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:55 |
| Laney | it should be using /usr/sbin/nologin | 15:55 |
| Laney | hey hellsworth | 15:55 |
| Laney | no idea about kerberos I'm afraid | 15:56 |
| hellsworth | ok thanks anyways | 15:56 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth | 15:57 |
| Laney | possibly #ubuntu-server would | 15:57 |
| hellsworth | ok thanks for the tip. i'll go ask there :) | 15:57 |
| Laney | tseliot: btw nologin is the default, so you can leave that out altogether | 15:58 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 16:01 |
| hellsworth | o/ oSoMoN ! | 16:01 |
| tseliot | Laney, sure. I wonder why it started failing now | 16:07 |
| Laney | I used ubuntu-drivers | 16:09 |
| Laney | suspect maybe it removed the -435 package including the user and then -440 tried to recreate it | 16:09 |
| tseliot | I'll have a look, thanks | 16:13 |
| === heather1 is now known as hellsworth | ||
| hellsworth | man, a single mesa change really starts the domino effect of usn rereshes | 18:02 |
| diddledan | _eeeverything_ depends on ligGL.so.1 :-p | 18:10 |
| diddledan | libGL, too | 18:10 |
| hellsworth | yeah i mean makes sense | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: you should try building epiphany with the gnome-3-34 extension. You can probably drop all the parts other than epiphany and snapcraft-preload | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | the build failures are gtk | 18:36 |
| hellsworth | ok | 18:37 |
| hellsworth | thats like 130 lines removed :) | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | yup | 18:43 |
| diddledan | wait, gnome-3-34?! :-o | 19:18 |
| diddledan | and there I am still using gnome-3-28! | 19:18 |
| hellsworth | diddledan: we're still working on merging it (https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2794) but you can go ahead and give it a shot. it's in the store under stanpcraft edge/pr-2794 | 19:21 |
| gitbot | snapcore issue (Pull request) 2794 in snapcraft "Add gnome 3 34 extension" [Open] | 19:21 |
| diddledan | aha | 19:21 |
| diddledan | thanks :-) | 19:22 |
| hellsworth | if you build stuff with the gnome-3-34 extension and have any issues at all, i'd love to hear about them :) | 19:22 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: epiphany is having the same issue as drawing (can't run snapcraftctl set-version $(git describe --tags --abbrev=10)) but in epiphany's case adding git to the build-packages section doesn't fix it | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: log? | 19:56 |
| hellsworth | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3pP7vfTwPH/ | 19:57 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: why isn't epiphany part of snapcrafters? | 21:25 |
| kenvandine | It's more like the gnome snaps | 21:54 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth We should probably start treating it like the other gnome snaps | 21:54 |
| hellsworth | but the other gnome snaps (mostly) have the snap included in upstream | 21:55 |
| hellsworth | ok but i think i see your point. since epiphany is more "official" than the projects in snapcrafters, it should not be in snapcrafters | 21:56 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: I've got a heaptrack trace of gnome-software idling at ~700MB uploading to that gnome-software bug. Hopefully it's helpful! | 22:39 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, thanks! | 22:39 |
| ideopathic | Hi all... I'm building a cross platform application that is intended to be installed in the user space. I've been looking at the XDG documentation for recommendations for installation paths. It appears that ~/.local/share is the desired location, however, it's unclear if I install a help app if that should be installed in ~/.local/share/app/bin/helperapp or if this should be something like | 22:59 |
| ideopathic | ~/.local/bin/helperapp. If someone could point me to an appropriate document or discussion, it would be appreciated. | 22:59 |
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