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DarkchaosShort question: When editing the schroot with schroot -c, are the changes persistent? Because I fail to use sbuild from within a schroot, obviously00:06
DarkchaosAnd per definition I think that's why one uses chroots, to make changes to the system without affecting the host00:06
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DarkchaosOkay mhh, doesn't work. I am trying to change the schroot's installed packages to later sbuild them, but sbuild a) upgrades them and b) doesn't even seem to see the ones I manually did with schroot -c00:19
noway96Is there a way to make all files created in a directory as group readable by default? A script creates hidden files without explicitly handling permission. I own the destination folder00:41
bpromptnoway96:  wouldn't that be the job of "umask"?00:49
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AristideIts work \o/01:33
fullstackHello01:33
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Aristidethank's leftyfb :)01:47
AristideAnd good night01:47
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Voolooufw doesn't work. I blocked x.x.0.0/16 using "sudo ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.0.0/16 to any" and yet some annoying app keeps hitting my nginx server02:34
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nCoV_frenBazoo! Hi Frens!03:17
middangearrdAloha03:17
nCoV_frenEveryone have a good weekend?03:19
aivitSince i have the same mount on all of these, is there like a shortcut to maybe just adding the mount in one place? i'm new to docker https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YPBycnvhtj/03:26
leftyfb!ot | nCoV_fren03:29
ubottunCoV_fren: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:29
robertparkerxcan you all maybe help me understand something? I want to upgrade my ubuntu server. my provider says they will do it automatically and mount it in either xfs or ext4. Which should I choose and why? Also will it be available /dev/sda1 ?03:31
robertparkerxwhat I mean by /dev/sda1 is will it be avaible for me to continue to use /srv/ path03:33
swift110sup03:35
oerheksext4 vs xfs .. if you don't know, choose ext403:37
robertparkerxoerheks do you know if it will be available to use as normal under /srv/ path etc03:41
oerheksno, that you should ask your provider03:41
fullstackI forgot what is the utility that allows you to try different kernels like switch, upgrade, search? I think it was a simple GUI in a package03:45
oerheksthere is uuku, to test mainline kernels03:46
oerhekspaid stuff..03:47
oerhekslolz03:47
oerheksoke, there is no free utility to change to mainline03:47
oerheks!mainline03:47
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds03:47
fullstackoh yeah it was uuku.  I want to try kernel 5.6. I see there's a 5.6-rc1 on kernel.ubuntu.com -- perhaps if I wait a few days there will be a non-rc1?04:01
oerheksmake that few months, sure04:05
Bashing-omfullstack: You are encouraged to join the kernel release thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2432815 .04:07
fullstackBashing-om, thank you.04:16
Bashing-omfullstack: :) These guys on the thread stay on top :D04:17
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swift110oh04:39
nCoV_frenHmm04:49
Intelocan I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?05:08
sumagna!in05:10
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India05:10
sumagnai am trying to join ubuntu-in channel to talk with my fellow indians but its saying i am banned05:17
sumagnai have never joined the server before05:17
sumagnabut now it is saying that i am banned.05:18
sumagnaso what should i do05:18
oerhekssumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this , i guess your ip is on the blacklist05:19
sumagnahow is my ip on the blacklist when i have never joined the channel05:20
oerheksthere is one way to find out :-)05:20
sumagnawhat?05:21
kk4ewtsumagna; do you own your ip?05:21
sumagnawhat?05:22
kk4ewtsumagna; do you own your ip?05:22
kk4ewtdo you own the static ip address you are using05:22
sumagnahow do i know the wired connection is getting paid by my dad05:22
kk4ewtso no05:22
sumagnai think i am using dynamic ip05:22
kk4ewtyou are getting the your ip from another service05:23
oerhekssumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this05:23
sumagnajoined05:23
kk4ewtand someone  else has used that ip before and have been banned05:23
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sumagnai saw the same comment on the net that someone else has used this ip and got banned05:25
Intelocan I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?05:29
oerheksone can use crouton for installing ubuntu versions,not sure server is an option.05:33
oerhekswhy do it the hard way, what is the use for that route?05:33
Intelooerheks,  chrome books are cheap but I like ubuntu (more power, same resource/hardware utilization if ubuntu-server+xorg+browser)05:46
tatertotsIntelo: do you actually have a chromebook right now?...have you actually tried installing ubuntu?05:50
oerhekserr, crouton is a virtual install, not the real deal05:51
Intelotatertots, of course not, don't want to be idiot to buy something without getting enough info05:53
Intelooerheks, ok. what do you think? can I install chromos on normal pc or linux on chrombook?05:54
oerheksdunno, i use ubuntu.05:55
sumagnai dont think you can install chrome os on normal pc05:57
DarkTrickI'd like to exclude specific entries from ending up in /etc/syslog06:04
DarkTrickis /etc/rsyslog.conf the correct place to do that?06:05
elijaxappsHi, if someone is interested, I just wrote a guide to make teamspeak 3 server run on raspberry pi. If someone would like to test it I dont mind to share.06:11
oerhekselijaxapps, post it on ubuntu forum, you might get reactions/help too06:12
elijaxappsoerheks I was intending to publish it on a simply githum .md file.06:13
elijaxappsgithub*06:13
elijaxappsSo if there are changes it can be updated.06:14
oerheksthat is also a good idea, for the code itself06:15
elijaxappsWell, I would write a bash script but first i need to test it on more than one environment. Anyway, it will be extremely complex as it have to run commands inside and outside a chroot/qemu environment06:17
elijaxapps(Not so complex really but REALLY need other machines to test it, and people's feedback)06:19
elijaxappsI don't need help, I helped myself. Just wanted to share, as its due.06:21
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roryI want to have multiple users with the same home directory. That home directory is also a FUSE mountpoint. What FUSE mount options do I need to ensure all users can write there? They are all members of the same group.08:53
ikonia_doesn't fuse lock it down to the session08:53
ikonia_"F USER S E"08:54
ikonia_it's a user mount08:54
ikonia_I thought that was one of the limitations (by design)08:54
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roryYeah it gets run as root, once. not once per user. in this case.08:54
rorynot that it's relevant to the question but it's s3fs.08:54
ikoniarory: sorry, I meant the actual mount is in that users process jail08:55
ikoniaI didn't mean user space as in user/kernel space08:55
ikoniaI Didn't think, maybe wrongly, it could be made wider like that08:55
ikoniaI'm not a huge user of it personally08:55
ikoniahalf asking myself while answering08:55
roryusually yeah but there is some option you can add in fstab that allows other users to write there08:55
ikoniareally ?08:55
roryI've seen it before and I know it's possible but I can't remember08:56
rory"umask" or similar option08:56
ikoniathe umask could make the target it writes to available I guess, but not the mount08:56
ikoniaeg: if you mounted /tmp to /home/rory - did stuff in /home/rory /tmp would be correct08:57
ikoniabut I thought that /home/rory would always be just rory08:57
ikonia(for example only)08:57
ikoniait's to do with the session used for the mount08:57
ikoniabut that maybe certainly providers only eg: sshfs08:57
ikoniawhere your ssh auth is the access control08:57
ikonia(again asking while answering)08:58
Northwoodshttp://prntscr.com/r02es709:02
NorthwoodsI am getting this error while i try to purge remove my previous mysql installation09:02
Northwoodsand re-install09:02
daft_dutchHi, I try to reboot a laptop with a usb Ubuntu image. with out unmounting the usb drive09:06
daft_dutchi do echo 1 > /run/casper-no-prompt;09:06
daft_dutchreboot09:06
daft_dutchbut that shutsdown the laptop09:07
ikoniarory: I can't find anything in the docs yet09:08
ikoniadaft_dutch: it will have to unmount it09:09
ikoniaNorthwoods: looks like you've tried to manually remove it first so files it expects are missing09:10
daft_dutchthe usb is the root device cant unmount it.09:10
ikoniadaft_dutch: you're rebooting the server09:10
ikoniadaft_dutch: that will unmount it by default09:10
ikoniaas the OS that mounts it will not be running09:10
daft_dutchyea but the reboot command turns off the laptop.  i need a reboot09:11
Northwoodsikonia, True09:11
ikoniaas in powers off fully until you press the power button09:11
ikoniaor powers off for a second and powers back on09:11
ikoniaNorthwoods: ok - so either a.) manually fix what you've broken b.) try to use the cleanup processs suggested in the error message09:12
Northwoodsikonia, i am not so good at it09:12
Northwoodsi mean ubuntu09:12
daft_dutchit shutdown the laptop. not turning on09:12
ikoniadaft_dutch: sounds like an apci bug09:15
daft_dutchikonia, echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger does reboot the system09:16
ikoniasysrq is a panic though09:19
ikoniatotally different situation than a reboot09:19
Northwoodsikonia, how to fix it manually09:21
Northwoodsor how to re-install it from scratch09:21
ikoniahave you tried --fix-broken as the error states09:21
ikoniaor manually putting back the files it says are missing ?09:21
Northwoodsikonia, tried --fixpbroken09:29
Northwoodsikonia, tried --fix-broken09:29
Northwoodsikonia, http://prntscr.com/r034zo09:43
daft_dutchNorthwoods, nice. you removed files you not suppose to delete. get an example file from somewhere.09:45
Northwoodsdaft_dutch, but i don't even know which file is requried09:47
daft_dutchNorthwoods, the dir /etc/mysql/conf.d/09:56
Northwoodsdaft_dutch, ok09:56
Northwoodsdaft_dutch, damn.... it was such a small thing10:03
Northwoodslittle knowledge is even worse than no knowledge10:03
daft_dutchread back your error file it states the dir does not exist10:04
nelginsudo mysql_secure_installation10:05
nelginTry that.10:05
nelginI think you have to configure it before you can run it.10:06
Northwoodsconfigure in what sense10:06
Northwoodsi ran phpmyadmin10:06
Northwoodsit is working10:06
Northwoodsnelgin, ^10:06
* nelgin shrugs10:06
nelginScreen capture says "mysql-server-5.7 is not configured"10:07
Northwoodsnelgin, i installed it with apt-get install mysql-server10:08
nelginMaybe running it manually will give some insight into why its failing?10:08
Northwoodsafter that10:08
Northwoodsafter installation it worked10:08
Northwoodsnelgin, ?10:08
Northwoods¯\_(ツ)_/¯10:08
nelginWhat version of ubuntu?10:08
Northwoods16.0410:08
nelginHmm, might be different with an earlier version then.10:09
nelginHmm nope10:09
nelginhttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-16-0410:09
nelginsudo apt-get update10:09
nelginsudo apt-get install mysql-server10:09
nelginmysql_secure_installation10:09
nelginThat's me done, I'm going to bed. Night.10:10
Northwoodsnelgin, what is purpose of mysql_secure_installation10:10
ice9this is what happened when I tried to run LXD container: https://bpaste.net/ZTFQ10:25
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FrankyGovheya10:37
FrankyGovdear members10:37
FrankyGovI would need a software like Superputty so that I can aggregate into multiple tabs each terminal instance10:37
FrankyGovIs there any software which I can use on Ubuntu?10:37
wpkFrankyGov: terminator, konsole10:38
ducassealso tmux, screen10:42
FrankyGovwpk, thank you so much. I just installed it through Ubuntu control panel10:43
FrankyGovducasse, thanks as well10:43
RonaldsMazitisI am getting this error11:16
RonaldsMazitis    Could not initialize class org.apache.commons.ssl.TrustMaterial11:16
RonaldsMazitisit's a java problem11:17
BluesKajHi folks11:31
mlokpcI have enabled ntp.service in SystemD on Ubuntu Bionic, however after a reboot it is inactive, does anybody have any ideas? Thanks11:59
ikoniamlokpc: doesn't bionic use systemd time12:01
ikonianot systemd to launch ntp12:01
mlokpcikonia: when I list enabled services ntp is listed as enabled12:02
ikoniaright, but is it actually starting12:02
mlokpcikonia: no it is always inactive12:03
ikoniaor it is trying to start and failing as it conflicts with systemd-time12:03
mlokpcikonia: just a second, I will verify that12:03
mlokpcikonia: systemd-time was enabled so I disabled it, let's see after a reboot now12:05
mlokpcikonia: works12:06
kubast2Hey anyone have been able to install windows 3.5 on qemu/kvm ?12:20
kubast2win nt 3.5 can only detect IDE cd-rom adapter12:21
kubast2and fdc floppies12:21
kubast2can't detect the disk12:21
ikoniayou need NT drivers on a disk to load things like SCSI12:21
ikoniathe guys in ##windows can help12:21
kubast2IK I have the .vfd from fedora wiki / floppy windows x86 driver disk12:21
kubast2but it is 2.45MiB over the size of a floppy12:22
kubast2so it gets detected as damaged?12:22
ikoniathen it's not designed for windows NT floppy support12:22
kubast2yeah ik, I need to check the full windows iso iirc it had drivers for 3.5 though I might be wrong and it was for 4.012:23
duibhneachHow do I get systemd to drop and rediscover / reinitialise a wired network adapter?12:23
ikonia3.5 was a seperate driver disk12:23
ikoniaduibhneach: why would it need to re-discvoer it12:24
ikoniawhat's the issue12:24
duibhneachThe issue is that while trying to setup a VLAN I messed up the network entirely.12:24
ikoniaok ? so just re-configure it12:24
duibhneachAs s (stupid) move to dfix I purged NetworkManager and now I don't even get a link light12:25
ikoniaso work the problem12:25
ikoniarather than suggesting a solution you think will work12:25
uajainI want to ask if ubuntu supports/ships xembed tray icons if https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is uninstalled?12:26
ikoniahave a look12:26
ikonialist the packages - so if it's there12:26
ikonialook in the repo see if it's available12:26
ikoniathat's a gnome extension though12:26
ikoniaso not normally shipped in ubuntu packages for the majority12:27
friendlyguyhi there! sorry, very noobish question: i am trying to move a folder with files and subfolders into another folder. "mv ../some/folder/ newfolder/" but i get an error that the directory is not empty. why? i expected mv to move EVERYTHING under the source path to the new path.12:27
kubast2>whatever that is, we dont support it.  Windows 8.1 or greater12:27
duibhneachI suppose I am looking for a clue as to which config file is in control of my networking in Ubuntu 18.0412:27
kubast2##windows doesn't support windows 7 or lower so12:27
kubast2*812:27
ikoniakubast2: fair enough12:27
duibhneachand how to to bring them to a default state12:27
ikoniaduibhneach: if you've uninstalled network manager,  you must have configured it some other way12:28
duibhneachUsing "netplan" was my aim12:28
friendlyguywhat am i doing wrong?12:28
ikoniaduibhneach: so you have a choice of either progressing forward with netplan, or backing it out and returning to network manager12:29
ikoniafriendlyguy: make sure you're not in the directory12:29
friendlyguyi am not12:29
ikoniafriendlyguy: mv directory/* /path/to/new/directory12:29
friendlyguywhy the asterisk?12:29
duibhneachikonia: I would like to move forward with "netplan" but any changes I make there seem not to be having any affect12:30
ikoniafriendlyguy: wildcards12:30
friendlyguyokay, same error msg, but now for subfolders of the folder i am trying to move12:30
ikoniaduibhneach: so you need to state our clearly what you want to do, and what you've done and what the current problem is12:30
friendlyguythere is no -r or -R... so i guess i am using it wrong12:33
duibhneachikonia: will try to gather my thoughts and info on it12:34
duibhneachikonia: thanks12:34
ikoniafriendlyguy: who said -r12:34
friendlyguyi tried it12:34
ikoniafriendlyguy: just move the directory if it contains sub directories12:34
ikoniaeg: mv /olddir /newdir12:34
friendlyguysame error msg12:35
ikoniafriendlyguy: show me the exact command you're using please12:35
friendlyguymv ../some/folder/ newfolder/12:36
ikoniafriendlyguy: why is it ..12:36
friendlyguyhm?12:36
ikoniafriendlyguy: that is not the EXACT command12:36
ikoniafriendlyguy: show me the exact command please12:36
friendlyguyits the exact command, except the directory names... they are too long to type12:36
ikoniafriendlyguy: cut and paste12:37
ikoniaor use a pastebin12:37
friendlyguyno remote12:37
friendlyguyno copy paste12:37
oerheksthen how did you mv .. ?12:37
ikoniafriendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place12:37
friendlyguyby typing and with bash completion?12:38
friendlyguyokay, lets try that12:38
ikoniano12:38
ikoniacd /where/you/need/to/be12:38
ikoniathen mv directory /new/place12:39
friendlyguydirectory not empty12:39
friendlyguyah12:39
ikoniashow me the command you used12:39
friendlyguyi did the 1 level up one12:39
ikoniashow me the command you typed12:39
friendlyguymv folder/tocopy/ newfolder/12:40
ikoniathen you're ot onelevel up are you12:40
ikoniayou're two levels up12:40
ikoniaand that's the current working directory12:40
ikoniause the gui12:40
ikoniayou are stuggling with basic command line details12:40
Kingsyif I install the general ubuntu 18.04 iso what DM am I getting gnome?12:41
Kingsyit doesnt look like gnome12:41
ikoniaKingsy: it is gnome12:41
Kingsyoh ok12:41
friendlyguynope, 1 level not 2.12:41
ikoniafriendlyguy: then you can't type the commands as folder/twocopy = 2 levels12:42
ikoniaso you typed the command wrong, folder = 1 tocopy =212:42
friendlyguydont get rude, if you dont wanna help: dont. ../folder/tocopy == folder/tocopy just 1 level up12:42
ikoniafriendlyguy: I'm not being rude12:42
ikoniaghostcube: I'm stating fact12:42
Psil0Cybin1hey can someone help me find a guide to create a wifi hotspot from another wifi hotspota12:42
Psil0Cybin1i keep finding guides but nothing actually gives me a network conenction12:43
ikoniafriendlyguy: folder = going into one level, tocopy inside "folder" = 2 levells12:43
Psil0Cybin1i get to the pooint of creating the hotspot, i connect to the hotspot and it has no internet :(12:43
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: can you actually daisy chain hotspots ?12:43
Psil0Cybin1ikonia, what do u mean my attempt or ask is this: I am liing in an house with many people i want ot create my own hotspot from their hotspot so i can make a firewall12:45
Kingsyso I am looking to emulate something like this -> https://imgur.com/3AmYqfL <- that is gnome, can anyone think which dock might be able to do something like that? It doesnt seem possible with the regular gnome settings tool12:45
Psil0Cybin1on my machine12:45
Psil0Cybin1yes i could use a VPN12:46
Psil0Cybin1but i want to create a firewall than -> vpn12:46
Psil0Cybin1off each device.12:46
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Psil0Cybin1so i want all my wifi to connect to my second wireless card on my machine12:46
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1 that doesn't sounds like a good model12:46
Psil0Cybin1what do you recommend12:46
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: I'm not sure why you're trying to do this, rather than just connect to the hostspot and use it12:46
Psil0Cybin1but if i  want extra privacy12:46
Psil0Cybin1or make sure that my devices are not visable?12:47
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: you won't get it12:47
friendlyguyikonia: you were right if you said go one level up and INTO the folder, but you didnt. i did exactly what you asked me to. go one level up. learn to read! and no, thanks. ill figure it out without your help... gladly.12:47
ikoniafriendlyguy: I said go to one level above the folder12:47
legreffierKingsy: they just seem like very big icons. not any specific docks12:47
ikonia12:37 < ikonia> friendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place12:48
Kingsyhmm yeah I am starting think thats the case.12:48
ikoniago to the directory - then 1 level up12:48
ikoniafriendlyguy: "learn to read"12:48
ikoniaKingsy: that will be some sort of app / plugin for gnome shell or a media app12:48
ikonialooks very nice12:48
Psil0Cybin1ikonia, what do yo umean i will not get it?|12:49
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: you won't get what you want12:49
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: just use the wifi - and make sure you browse using SSL etc12:49
Psil0Cybin1oh okay12:49
Psil0Cybin1so you really do no trecommend me setting up a wifi spot from a wifi spot and making a firewall connection + setup a vpn, than use a vpn on my devices?12:49
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: I recommended none of that12:50
Psil0Cybin1I just really want extra security but if you think i wont accomplish what i want i will take your advice.12:50
Psil0Cybin1okay.12:50
ikoniaPsil0Cybin1: I recommended connecting to the hotspot and using it12:50
Psil0Cybin1interesting12:50
Psil0Cybin1okay12:50
Psil0Cybin1thanks for you input12:50
devster31is there a smart way to delete a list from sources.list.d and also any packages that were installed from it?12:52
ikoniadevster31: index the packages and anything that's tagged as from the repo you want purge it12:53
ikoniathen remove the list file from sources.list.d12:53
ducassedevster31: check out ppa-purge12:53
devster31ikonia how can I index the packages grouped by repo?12:54
devster31ducasse unfortunately these aren't ppas12:54
ikoniadevster31: there is a dpkg extension command that can list the repo12:54
ducasseyou can still use it, read the man page12:54
ikoniaI can't think of it off the top of my head12:54
ikoniaworks similar to apt-cache but for installed packages12:54
oerheksdevster31, synaptic can easily filter that12:54
ikoniatrue, the gui is great12:55
devster31no gui unfortunately, I'll try with ppa-purge and aptitude12:56
devster31thanks12:56
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LordRyanis there a known issue with multiverse packages that could affect official or unofficial derivatives?13:42
LordRyantrying to install steam under pop!_os and currently getting tons of dependency breakages13:42
LordRyani think it's because libc6 is in proposed as 0ubuntu2.1 but libc6:i386 is not in proposed13:44
ducasseLordRyan: we don't support pop os, sorry13:48
LordRyanI'm asking specifically about Ubuntu repositories regardless of whether or not it's under a derivative or Ubuntu directly, if there's a known issue.13:48
LordRyanI think the issue is that libc6 and libc6:i386 have differring versions as one is updated in -proposed.13:48
nirakarahi. i'm having a problem with networking. i live on a network that is controlled by mac addresses. when i am in windows the DHCP server correctly assigns me an IP, but on ubuntu it does not13:51
nirakarai tried using macchanger to change my mac to another known mac that works, and the OS gets an IP address fine13:51
LordRyanducasse: that fixed it so it may be an issue with official Ubuntu as well13:52
nirakarathis is a dual boot machine13:52
Oolusualy you have the same mac address on all your OS… except if you forge it13:53
nirakarayeah Ool that's why this error is strange13:53
nirakarait is the same mac, i've checked but the DHCP refuses to assign an ip on ubuntu13:53
nirakarai'm tailing /etc/syslog and i see entries like DHCPDISCOVER on iface to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid-0x5.....)13:54
nirakaraNO DHCPOFFERS received13:54
nirakarabut when i use macchanger to spoof another mac address which is known working it works fine in ubuntu13:55
acresearchpeople, i have a .csv file that i need to export as an excel file in order to upload it to a server. how can i accomplish that in ubuntu? is there a converter? or an app i install? or an office immulator?13:56
Oolnirakara: ask the admin, perhaps there is an extension to limit this usage13:56
Oolacresearch: for me excel can read csv directly13:57
acresearchOol: i know, but i need to export th csv into an excel file13:58
acresearchi do not need to modify anything, i just need the format13:58
Oollibreoffice or excel can open it and export it to .xls13:59
acresearchOol: oh nioce,  is there excel for ubuntu?14:00
elias_aNope.14:00
acresearchoh14:00
acresearchbut libre office can export to an excel file?14:01
ducassegnumeric should also be able to do it, if you want something lighter14:01
acresearchok got it,,, thanks :-)14:06
ArimilHey guys I'm trying to configure iptables but I'm running into issues because it appears some of my block rules are taking priority over the accept ones. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y2CFRV78wH/14:09
ArimilThe rules to block all other traffic at the bottom appear to be disconnecting ssh even though I've explicitly allowed them from the local network above that.14:09
pent1ckelArimil: the problem is the in the output queue. there is nothing allowed right now14:16
pent1ckelyou have two options there: 1 allow outing pkg fro specific protocols/port14:17
pent1ckel2. using stateful firewall rules and add -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT14:17
pent1ckelso all you packets currently get blocked because of -P OUTPUT DROP14:17
ArimilAh I see, thanks.14:18
pent1ckelalso blocking everything on lo0 might have some weird sideeffects14:18
ArimilYeah I think maybe just blocking incoming connections would be enough.14:18
pent1ckelcurrently now outgoing traffic would be possible as all as -P OUTPUT DROP without any other rule really blocks everything14:19
pent1ckelnot sure which level of security you are aiming for14:20
ArimilFairly high but it seems like it would be a pain to whitelist every outbound connection. Especially when installing updates and such.14:21
speeder39_Good morning14:22
speeder39_I am looking to install I ubuntu on an older P14:23
speeder39_PC14:23
speeder39_Want to completely wipe Win 714:23
lotuspsychje!flavours | speeder39_14:23
ubottuspeeder39_: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours14:23
pent1ckelArimil: it might end up in a lot of lines with different IP spaces as by today more and more CDNs used for update which changes there IP very often14:24
speeder39_Flavors????  Like flavors of ice cream????14:24
Arimilspeeder39_ it's different desktop environments14:24
speeder39_Arimil: are you in the USA14:24
Arimilalso https://rufus.ie if you're installing from windows 7 you'll need to download something like this to setup a bootable drive14:25
Arimilhow is that relevant?14:25
speeder39_Just curious Arimil14:25
ArimilYes, I am.14:25
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speeder39_Is that the link to set up drive. I can on a USB drive14:27
Kingsyhow in the world do you remove the left bar? the dock? you you "hide" it when a window moves over it, but I just want to totally remove it14:27
speeder39_Which flavor ubuntu most similar to win 1014:28
pent1ckelArimil: so far clarified with the iptables issue?14:28
crimson_kingspeeder39_, To Windows 10? Kubuntu, I'd say.14:28
lotuspsychjespeeder39_: we dont really take polls here14:28
Arimilspeeder39_ yes that's what that link is for setting up a drive14:28
speeder39_That is Irish link with.ie at end14:29
Arimilpent1ckel yeah I'm good for now I realized the mistake I made14:29
crimson_kingspeeder39_, But if your PC is really old, you're gonna be more satisfied with Xubuntu (light), Ubuntu MATE (intermediate) or Lubuntu (very light).14:30
speeder39_Is 6gb Ram enough??14:30
speeder39_Around 5 years old???14:30
crimson_kingThat's not so old.14:30
speeder39_Is that really old14:30
crimson_kingor slow.14:30
speeder39_crimson_king: are you in the USA14:30
crimson_kingNo, I'm not14:30
speeder39_Across the Atlantic in Europe?14:31
crimson_kingwhy?14:31
lotuspsychje!ot | speeder39_14:31
ubottuspeeder39_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:31
speeder39_@lotuspsychje: 🤔🤔🤔14:32
vodiylik:)14:32
lotuspsychjespeeder39_: this is not a general chat, please focus on actual ubuntu support questions14:32
speeder39_Am I getting close to being kicked??14:32
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rublindI have a drive that failed, and now when my system boots it drops me into an emergency console. There are errors about timing out waiting for a disk 'dev-disk-by-uuid-...' - I _think_ I had an LVM or a raid (that was created 6+ years ago). I have a new drive now, but I'm not sure how to fix this issue.15:34
joemac53Is it possible to obtain support with a Xubuntu suspend/resume issue from this channel?15:37
lotuspsychjejoemac53: xubuntu is a supported flavour of ubuntu, so sure, ask your issue to the channel15:38
joemac53I am getting a black screen when resuming from suspend.  I'm using Xubuntu 18.04.4 on a Lenovo ThinkPad E495 AMD Ryzen 7 with integrated AMD graphics15:40
joemac53I have tried the some of the trouble-shooting steps from the DebuggingKernelSuspend  page15:41
joemac53During resume, the power light goes from blinking to solid, but the screen is black and there is no response to keyboard input15:41
joemac53Including tryint to drop to TTY115:42
joemac53I tried uninstalling light-locker, but the issue persisted15:42
joemac53any form of suspend has the same issue (terminal command, lid closure, GUI menu)15:43
lotuspsychjejoemac53: can you doublecheck if bug #1759950 affects you?15:43
ubottubug 1759950 in Xfce4 Power Manager "Lid-close suspend: blank screen when switching to user session" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175995015:43
joemac53I will check15:43
lotuspsychjejoemac53: i also recall users with ryzen suspend issues, that didnt have the issue on kernel 4.1915:44
joemac53No - I cannot authenticate15:44
joemac53different issue15:45
lotuspsychjeallright15:45
joemac53Is 4.19 an "official" kernel for the LTS?15:45
lotuspsychje!mainline | joemac5315:46
ubottujoemac53: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds15:46
joemac53Ok, is there a particular kernel package that would be recommended for me to try for purposes of trouble-shooting?15:48
joemac53I am concerned about stability - hence my choice of an LTS15:49
ioriajoemac53, here the guy says to install and configure xscreensaver : https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/xubuntu-suspendresume-fix/    but i bet it's a bit deeper than that; you should check dmesg (if you can) :  dmesg | less15:49
joemac53ok, is there anything in particular that I am looking for in dmesg?15:50
joemac53I did a dmesg > dmesg.txt right after rebooting from a failed suspend15:51
ioriajoemac53, grep for 'fail', or 'error'15:51
joemac53regarding the https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/xubuntu-suspendresume-fix/, I did remove light-locker and install xscreensaver - it had no impact15:52
joemac53so I reinstalled light locker15:53
ioriajoemac53, xscreensaver nedds a configuration iirc, not just install15:54
ioria*needs15:54
joemac53I will try xscreensaver  again.  If the resume fails, I will need to reboot, so I'm going to sign out and give it a try15:55
cetexIn ubuntu, what is it that triggers automatic shutdown of the laptop around 2% of battery?15:56
ioriajoemac53, for the record : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/143114915:57
cetexis it some hardcoded limit in upowerd?15:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1431149 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE 4.12 Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:57
tieinvpower management?15:57
cetexseems like it's upowerd..16:04
cetexand it's set to 2% by default..16:05
cetexthat's like 30minutes.16:06
joemacNo joy16:11
joemacI am still trying to debug resume after suspend.  I tried switching to xscreensaver16:11
joemacThe settings that were recommended were not entirely clear.  I took it to mean that I should go into Screensaver Preferences - advanced tab and toggle Display Power Management to "on"16:12
ioriajoemac, right after you left, posted this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/143114916:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1431149 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE 4.12 Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:13
joemacI will check that16:13
pavlosjoemac: wrote a small article about suspend/resume, it might help you ... https://www.azloco.org/2019/04/06/systemd-suspend-resume-script/16:14
joemac1431149 does not appear to be the same bug16:14
joemacThat bug has resume working under some circumstances - I cannot get anything other than  a black screen under any resume conditions16:15
joemacpavlos - I'm not sure I understand what the script would do.  I have used scripts called from /etc/pm/sleep.d/ as workarounds to get sleep/resume working16:18
joemacon other laptops16:18
joemacIt seems to me that the graphics driver is not being restored or is crashing somehow16:19
ioriajoemac,  switching  to tty works  ?16:21
joemacno16:21
ioriaah16:21
joemactried tty116:21
joemacno keyboard input works16:21
joemacno backlight at all16:21
joemacpower light goes from flashing to solid on, but no keyboard input works and the backlight does not come on16:21
ioriajoemac,  you can try the quick workaround on #1416:22
Oolworks with an other USB keyboard ?16:22
joemacno16:22
joemacneither an external nor built in input does anything16:23
joemacresume just gives a black unlit screen and no input, with the power light solidly on16:23
joemacOr at least, no observable input16:23
ioriait's a system freeze (i suggest using alt+print + r-i-s-u-b to reboot)16:24
joemacIf the graphics driver isn't working, the keyboard input could be doing something, but I can't see anything16:24
OolUSB bus seems to stay asleep16:24
joemacOr its awake and I can't see that it is16:25
joemacI made a dmesg.txt - but I don't see anything telltale - could anyone else take a look?16:26
joemacI also tried setting a lid shut to just power the screen off, but eventually it goes to suspend and locks the computer up.  Also, not having suspend on a laptop uses the battery power up faster.16:27
legreffierjoemac: which driver are you using ?16:30
joemacamdgpu16:30
joemacopen source default16:30
ioriajoemac, to paste dmesg use cat dmesg.txt | nc termbin.com 999916:30
ioriajoemac, upgrading the kernel might help16:30
joemacioria - dmesg sent16:31
ioriajoemac, you are supposed to paste the url here16:31
joemacI haven't used IRC in about 20 years16:32
joemacso exactly how would I share the dmesg.txt?16:32
ioriajoemac, the cmd above gives you an url in terminal ....16:33
ioriayes ?16:33
t3chhello all!16:33
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legreffierhttps://pobe.ga/posts/intel-9260-suspend/ << is that similar to your problem ?16:34
t3chanyone know if is possible to disable one harddrive that dont work but is runn ing and ventilators are running just for it.. with drivers or not know how?16:34
joemacI had pasted "cat dmesg.txt | nc termbin.com 9999" into a terminal16:35
ioriajoemac,     yes ? it will return an url16:36
joemacand it sent a url back16:36
ioriajoemac, paste it here16:36
joemachttps://termbin.com/23ks16:36
ioriagood16:36
joemacthanks16:37
ioriaAMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile  -> not a good news16:37
ioriaCall Trace 851993; 2*° bad news16:38
joemacYep16:38
joemacI mentioned the Ryzen 7 3700U in my first message this morning because I thought that might be the issue16:39
joemacfairly recent hardware - April 2019 build date16:40
ioriajournal corrupted or uncleanly shut down16:40
joemacok16:40
ioriajoemac,  that'swhy i told you to use  alt+print+reisub to reboot16:40
konradosHey, I don't get it. I just wanted to install some software (krita) and got this: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/a3850c6846904b04ac2bf5b68779919916:41
joemacI did have to do a forced shutdown (hold pwer button).  I can try seeing if the key combination will work16:41
ioria!REISUB16:41
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key16:41
konradosI only did sudo add-apt-repository https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa16:41
ioriajoemac,  if the kb works obviously16:42
joemacI will drop off the chat briefly and try again.  The key combo is alt + print + r-e-i-s-u-b, altogether?16:43
ioriajoemac, the kernel  in use is 4.15.0-76 , but a new kernel is available in the hwe16:43
joemacI have seen references to hwe - is there a particular package that will turn that on?16:44
ioriajoemac, sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.0416:44
joemacShould I try that first, then try trouble-shooting the suspend ?16:44
Intelocan I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?16:44
ioriajoemac, nope, first try to troubleshoot16:45
joemacThanks - will do the troubleshoot.  Bye for now.16:45
ioriaok16:45
ducasseIntelo: depends. chromeos might be better suited for the hardware. TIAS.16:49
Inteloducasse, hm.. ya but I want the same price, battery, price of chrome but slighly different os16:50
Inteloie ubuntu16:50
ducassekonrados: remove the ppa you added, then follow the instructions here to add it back - https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa16:51
ducassekonrados: then remove the lines apt complains about16:51
konradosducasse, but... but it's a clean system, I didn't add any ppa before, it's the first one, how can I know what to remove? You mean everything on the list?16:54
konradosI didn't do anything, it's a fresh installation, on a new disk16:54
konradosI decided to make the completly new installation, because last time I also had problems with ppa :( I don't get it :(16:56
pragmaticenigmakonrados: You did do something... you added a PPA repository, and then something broke... that's "doing something" so please don't continue saying you didn't do anything16:57
joemacI tried alt+print+reisub at the black screen after resume - nothing happened - I still had to shutdown with the power button16:57
konradospragmaticenigma, ok, maybe I did, but I don't know what that could be16:57
ducassekonrados: that apt output lists several third party repos16:57
joemacI did create a second text file with the dmesg contents16:58
ducassekonrados: read the apt output to see what to remove - "W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list:3"16:59
pragmaticenigmakonrados: part of running a computer is remembering the actions you take. If you have trouble remembering, the I would suggest you start writing down the steps and things you execute. You added a repository, and it broke your system. The only help you will receive here is how to remove the repository, which has already been suggested to you with documentation. The volunteers in this channel only support the software made16:59
pragmaticenigmaavailable through the official Ubuntu software channels.16:59
konradosducasse, pragmaticenigma - when I get a notification about updates, I just click "OK", so maybe I did something, but this time not consciously, I just clicked "OK"16:59
pragmaticenigmakonrados: 20 minutes ago you wrote: "<konrados> I only did sudo add-apt-repository https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa"17:00
konradosI did NOT add a ppa intentionally17:00
konradospragmaticenigma, yeah, but this is the moment my problems started17:00
ducassekonrados: you have added repos for telegram, virtualbox, chrome, node and vscode17:01
konradosducasse, ah... indeed, sorry, I just do it all the time, and thought it's safe, and indeed I forgot it, sorry :(17:01
pragmaticenigmakonrados: That is adding a repsitory... you did that on purpose... things don't "accdentially" happen. You had to type out that entire line of characters. You were fully aware that you were doing something. It is on you for executing something you don't understand17:01
joemacIs there anything else I should try to troubleshoot the black screen resume issue, or should I go to the HWE kernels17:02
ses1984i see that openssl 1.1.1 has a CVE out on it, what should i do if i want to build 1.1.1d and replace 1.1.1 in my system17:02
ducassekonrados: run the add-apt-repository command again, but add -r17:02
konradospragmaticenigma, ducasse - sorry again, it's a script I run.... ok, will remove the ppas17:02
konradosducasse, ok17:02
ses1984where is the code that builds the deb of openssl 1.1.1 that is used in the current repos fo 18.0417:02
ses1984i thought i could look there to see how the deb is built, so i can build my own deb for 1.1.1d17:03
ducassekonrados: you don't need to remove the others, just correct what apt complains about17:03
konradosducasse, so - `sudo add-apt-repository -r https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa` ?17:03
eelstreborwhere can i post a snapshot to show a "problem" on my pc?17:03
ducassekonrados: yes17:04
konradoseelstrebor, https://imgur.com/upload17:04
konradosok, doing17:04
ses1984on this page is says a pacakge is needed, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2019/CVE-2019-1547.html is there any way i can help with that?17:04
konradosducasse, no result, no communication, now how can I test if everything's fine?17:05
ducassekonrados: if there is no output it has done the job17:05
ducassekonrados: post the output of 'sudo apt update'17:06
joemacAs requested, I tried alt+print+reisub at the black screen after resume - nothing happened - I still had to shutdown with the power button. I am not sure what to try next in order to get suspend/resume working17:06
pragmaticenigmases1984: You can try asking in #ubuntu-devel17:06
konradosducasse, https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/4d2371bd5be6494a8f7e42ce4465921f17:07
konradosstill some problems17:07
ioriajoemac, try the new kernel hwe17:08
joemacOK17:08
eelstreboranyone know why i'm getting this dialog box? i haven't seen it on my other pc's: https://imgur.com/a/x1RP30D17:08
ducassekonrados: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list for me?17:09
ioriajoemac, if it fails you can try this : https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/cveeyl/linux_on_t495t495sx395_suspendresume_fix/17:09
joemacOnce it installs the new kernel, I will reboot and then try suspend/resume again and check the reddit if needed17:09
pragmaticenigmaeelstrebor: Your machines will refresh their package lists at different times. So some may see an update prompt before others17:10
ducasseeelstrebor: you must have the settings set to ask when updates are available17:10
eelstreborit looks like it has something to do with flatpack which is only on this pc17:10
joemacioria - should I try the kernel change first, or troubleshoot the bluetooth as recommended in the Reddit post?17:11
DarkchaosSorry for asking this over and over, but is there a simple way to hook into pbuilder's chroot, so I can change the environment before continueing to compile?17:11
ioriajoemac, a newer kernel with your hw is not bad17:12
konradosducasse, - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/632532458507440cb4647a11623fdce617:12
joemacioria - looks like it's going to 5.3.0-28-generic17:13
ioriayes17:13
joemacOK - rebooting now - thanks again17:13
ducassekonrados: 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list' then 'sudo apt update'. see if there are errors or warnings17:14
JuJUBeeI am using ltsp and used snap on the server to install tmcbeans but my users cannot see it?  They have restarted their terminals and I have updated the image.  Any ideas?17:18
konradosducasse, it seems fine (?) except the last line - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f070e6378d4a4137987f813975415bcc17:18
joemacioria the HWE kernel update did the trick.  Should I uninstall xscreensaver and reinstall light-locker and re-test17:19
joemacThanks!17:19
mra90I have ubuntu up&running but would like to install windows also in a dual boot configuration, where should I strat?17:19
lotuspsychje!cookie | ioria17:19
ubottuioria: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:19
ioriaok, good to hear joemac17:19
mra90start*17:19
ioriagnam lotuspsychje17:19
ducassekonrados: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' - pastebin result17:20
ioriajoemac, light-locker is a bit buggy  afaik17:20
joemacOK17:20
ioriajoemac, but you know how to purge xscreensaver, and occasionally reinstall it17:21
joemacHow do I get the screenlock back when suspending - I would like password input to unlock.  Is that in the xscreensaver settings17:21
joemacyep, I can purge/reinstall if needed17:21
ioriayes17:21
joemacok17:21
konradosducasse, https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/76af2997c2cd45daaed3e7476373ea2017:22
ducassekonrados: can you use virtualbox from the ubuntu repos, or do you need the one from the virtualbox site?17:24
konradosducasse, I don't care :) I just want to have it. Not sure what is the difference, but assume that the second option is better for some reason.17:24
konradosor the first:)17:25
ducassekonrados: it's just newer, but we only support the one in the repos. remove the line "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic contrib" from /etc/apt/sources.list or comment it out17:25
konradosdoing...17:26
ducassekonrados: then 'sudo apt update' should return without errors17:27
konradosducasse, seems fine - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e218e45d8d6241b8aa5a3c1867fc6ae617:29
konradosducasse, but... what is the mistake I made?17:29
konradosI really try to learn linux, but this just is over my head, I was strictly following the manuals and docs o.O17:31
ducassekonrados: it's fine now, you just added the krita ppa incorrectly. use 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kritalime/ppa'17:31
konradosoh, ok17:31
ducassekonrados: see the instructions here - https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa17:32
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konradosducasse, I don't know how to thank you. It worked :) pragmaticenigma - also thank you. I'm not an admin guy, and usually in my work someone else took care about this stuff (this is my explanation:)) - thanks again!17:36
ducassekonrados: you're welcome, happy to help :)17:37
konrados:)17:37
eelstreborthis kinda sucks - i found 2 firefox apps installed - removed one in favor of the new & improved quantum version and now all me bookmarks, plugins, addons, and settings are gone17:46
pressure679The Ubuntu repository, has different bios version for at least 1 PC. Is it ok if someone tells me which software or whatever it is?17:47
eelstrebori did find a much nicer calculator during my "cleanup"17:48
leftyfbpressure679: huh?17:52
pressure679It's ok if you just waste time.17:52
leftyfbpressure679: what is your ubuntu support question?17:53
pressure679- The Ubuntu repository, or one of the repositories, has[...]17:53
pressure679The maintainer of the software may be dead, idk.17:54
leftyfbpressure679: which repository?17:54
littlepythonHi there, i have this snippet https://dpaste.org/G7Fd17:55
littlepythoni want to replace jenkinstest2 with ${namespace}17:55
pressure679Maybe one or more for the Ubuntu distros.17:55
littlepythoncould someone please help me on how to do that17:55
littlepythonsince it involves lot of quotes i am confused. unfortunately for now i have to take this route. so help is much appreciated17:55
leftyfbpressure679: what are you talking about? Can you be specific please?17:55
pressure679I'm sorry leftyfb, I get payed to do some other stuff now.17:56
leftyfblittlepython: you want #bash maybe17:57
littlepythonah ok ill ask there as well again.. leftyfb: do you know the solution for my problem17:59
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mvkdevwhy does ubuntu nearly hang when node executable takes my cpu under heavy load? (i do have a 2gb swap partition)18:11
Mathisenswap would not help with cpu load18:17
mvkdevMathisen but the scheduler of my OS isnt doing its work properly then i guess18:18
mvkdevhow do i fix this? :D18:19
ikoniamvkdev: what is bottlenecking your machine18:23
ikoniaand why do you assume the scheduler is the problem18:23
mvkdevikonia nodejs runs on 100%, and then i cant use my desktop normally anymore => bottleneck?18:23
ikoniano, that's running out of resource18:24
ikoniawhat is causing it to run out of resource18:24
mvkdevprocessor time18:24
ikoniaare you sure ?18:24
ikoniaare you sure you're not waiting on anything else that is locking the process18:24
ikoniaso the cpu can't be freed up18:24
mvkdevikonia ok so i just did a test, i'm running out of memory18:28
mvkdevthere's 8gb in this machine18:29
mvkdevMiB Mem :   7846,0 total,   2738,2 free,   2153,4 used,   2954,3 buff/cache18:29
mvkdevwhen it's running the node process, memm goes to 300meg free...18:29
mvkdevso how do i prevent my system from locking up when it run's out of memory?18:34
pragmaticenigmamvkdev: You can't... you can only take proactive measures... like analyzing what's happening during the lock up and then try to figure out why that is requiring so much of the system resource18:36
ikoniamvkdev: why do you think you're running out of memory18:44
ikoniait's not just about the "Free" line18:44
ikonia(you could be right too, it's about understanding your thoughts)18:45
OroSorrowhello what's the best way to manage "logs" and by logs i mean the result of output from a command chain like nohup somecommand > logme.log18:46
ikoniaOroSorrow: in what way manage ?18:46
OroSorrowif this isn't the best place to ask something like this i don't mind being pointed elsewhere, i mean after it reaches x kb rotate logs and purge older files after x amount of time18:46
ikoniaOroSorrow: you could use logrotate or a file watcher, or even something a bit older like inotify18:47
OroSorrowi see18:47
OroSorrowis logrotate just a command?18:47
OroSorrowi'll start googling, thank you18:47
raver> ikonia hat geschrieben:18:50
raver> OroSorrow: you could use logrotate or a file watcher, or even something a bit older like inotify18:50
raver... inotify is old?18:50
sarnold~twenty years maybe?18:52
sarnoldInotify  was merged into the 2.6.13 Linux kernel.  The required library interfaces were added to glibc in version 2.4.18:53
sarnoldah fifteen years https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_1318:53
raverI thought initifywait was newer...18:53
raverI still use it rarely in shell scripts..18:54
raverIs there a better way in newer kernels?18:54
mra90why I can not resize partition using GParted?18:58
pragmaticenigmamra90: Is the drive the one you're currently booted from?19:00
mra90pragmaticenigma, yes exactly19:00
pragmaticenigmamra90: You can't resize a mounted partition19:00
mra90But it should work- it should shrink the free spoace19:01
mra90I see no reason to forbid it19:01
mra90I think I was able to do it under windows19:01
pragmaticenigmamra90: The tool is preventing you from shooting yourself in the foot... sometimes you can make an active partition larger, but you can't make it smaller19:05
mra90pragmaticenigma, but live USB installation will allow me to do so  soo whats the point?19:09
mra90I mean the danger is the same when I do it from live USB boot or hdd isn't it?19:09
Ben64when you're booting from usb you can unmount the hdd19:10
havv python3-rados : Depends: python3 (< 3.7) but 3.7.3-1 is to be installed, what does this mean? That I have 3.7 installed and it requires 3.6?19:12
pragmaticenigmamra90: No, there danger is greatly reduced... the reason you can't do it live is because the data on the drive is in use. To resize, the data needs to be shifted. It would be like pulling the rug out from underneath someone. You technically can do it, but there are going to be unfortunate consequences.19:13
cgihow do i do a efficient two-way sync on two ubuntu machines? (preferably using ssh)19:14
pragmaticenigmacgi: rsync is the only tool that I am aware of for such a task. However it is not two way, you have to run one in one direction, then run the other machine to achieve the other direction19:15
cgipragmaticenigma, I was hoping to do this automatically - not manually running everytime I change a file19:16
mra90pragmaticenigma, got it, thanks :)19:16
ikoniacgi: drbd for the disks ?19:16
PoleschWindows 10 in QEMU/KVM freezes on boot, every time. Anyone know how to fix this?19:18
pragmaticenigmacgi: aside from the bad idea that is (i.e. you screw up file and now it's in both locations with no backup) ... rsync can be schedule to run, which is what I would recommend... set each to run every 10 minutes, one only runs on the 5s, the other to run on the 0s19:18
cgiikonia, does that work over ssh?19:18
ikoniacgi: no, why do you need it to happen over ssh19:18
cgipragmaticenigma, I am syncing two git repos actually. So I could use git to pull changes perhaps?19:18
ikoniacgi: what is your actual goal here ?19:18
pragmaticenigmacgi: ssh is not a file transfer protocol... and is not designed for the purpose you're describing19:18
pragmaticenigmacgi: That would be the smarter way19:19
cgiikonia, I want to be able to use an IDE to do development on a server directory and debu19:19
ikoniacgi: so you don't want to keep anything in sync19:19
cgiMy server and desktop both run ubuntu19:19
pragmaticenigmacgi: Choose one git to be the primary, the other secondary. Only commit changes to the primary, the secondary gets schedule to pull from the primary on a regular schedule19:19
ikoniayou just want to make the server file system available to your machine running the IDE19:19
cgiikonia, I tried sshfs - too slow19:19
cgiikonia, yes19:19
ikoniacgi: sshfs can't be too slow19:20
ikoniajust export the file system via some network file protocol, sshfs, fuse, nfs, samba, whatever19:20
ikoniaand mount it on the machine with the IDE19:20
cgiikonia, git status - takes 10 seconds plus19:20
ikoniacgi: that won't be sshfs19:20
ikoniathat will be a problem with your network or server perfoamcen19:20
ikoniasshfs does not have that overhead19:21
cgiikonia, my git is 3GB19:21
ikoniawhat does that mean ?19:21
cgiikonia, the size of the repo is large19:21
ikoniaso again what does that have to do with ssfs19:21
ikoniasshfs19:21
cgiikonia, no idea why sshfs is so slow for git status19:21
ikoniacgi: sshfs does not put that sort of overhead on it19:22
cgiikonia, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7245837/using-git-over-sshfs-is-too-slow19:22
robertparkerxI want to upgrade my ubuntu server and ext4 but I'm being told I may need to "adjust the settings in /etc/fstab.". Can someone help me understand?19:22
robertparkerxSorry upgrade my HDD19:22
robertparkerxor SSD lol19:23
ikoniacgi: pick a different network file system then19:23
cgiikonia, git status = 51 seconds on a gigabit network19:24
ikoniacgi: network theoretical speed is nothing to do with real performance19:24
pragmaticenigmacgi: I think the git approach is the best at this point... no monkeying with file systems, and better yet, no issues with file permissions with mounting remote file system either19:26
pragmaticenigmarobertparkerx: Are you asking about swapping your harddrive for another one?19:26
robertparkerxpragmaticenigma, no they're adding additional storage19:26
ducasserobertparkerx: connect the disk, create a partition and filesystem, and gnome disks can add it to fstab for you19:30
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pragmaticenigmarobertparkerx: Perhaps you need to more fully describe what it is you're doing. From what you stated, it doesn't make any sense to me19:33
robertparkerxpragmaticenigma, I have a server through hetzner in germany. They allow me to purchase additional SSD space or volumes to add to my server. I asked them about it because I was interested and they told me "you may need to adjust the settings in /etc/fstab."19:36
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ducasserobertparkerx: do you currently have the storage added and need help setting it up?19:37
kur1jcan someone tell me why I need to add a search domain name in my /etc/resolv.conf for it to work?19:40
kur1jfor my local domain (even though my DNS server) resolves it19:41
pragmaticenigmakur1j: Is your DNS server setup to automatically resolve local machine names?19:42
kur1jpragmaticenigma: I mean on any other computer I can type <servername.mydomain.com> and it will resolve the ip19:44
kur1jso yes?19:44
pragmaticenigmais you the machine you're currently having issues actually setup to use that DNS server?19:46
pragmaticenigma ^ ^ kur1j19:47
sarnoldkur1j: copy-paste what you're trying to do and the results you get?19:47
sarnold(if it's more than two lines, a paste bin site please ;)19:47
robertparkerxducasse, no I wanted to learn before I purchased it19:49
pragmaticenigmarobertparkerx: If the provider is just allocating more space to your machine instance, there won't be anything you need to do. If they're adding another phyisical volume to your instance, then you might have to set that up, but there is no way for us to predict how that is going to work until it happens19:50
pragmaticenigmarobertparkerx: Truthfully, this falls on your hosting provider to provide this kind of support and you should be asking them for help. If they don't know how or can't help you... I'd suggest finding a more competent hosting provider.19:51
ducasserobertparkerx: then i suggest you come back when you actually need help with a problem19:52
robertparkerxI don't think it is physical volumes19:52
tomreynit will look like a physical storage to your cloud VM. hetzner will add a secondary storage, the original storage is not extended.19:54
tomreynso you'll end up with sda (20 GB on CX11) plus the other volume you add which can range between 10 and 1024 GB.19:55
tomreynbut this is more of a topic for #hetzner19:55
robertparkerxoh wait19:55
robertparkerxI didn't know tomreyn19:55
robertparkerxI'm sorry19:55
tomreynyou'll need to create a partition table or just a single file system on it, then add any newly created file systems to fstab if you want them automounted.19:56
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tomreynno worries, I just wanted to point you to the more suitable channel for the non ubuntu configuration part.19:57
mra90my usb stick is read only (write protected) how can I chnage that?20:05
tomreynwhat tells you so?20:06
pavlosmra90: what does the usb contain? do you know its filesystem?20:06
mra90pavlos, no, how can I check it?20:07
pavlosmra90: type dmesg, at the bottom you will see details of the usb20:08
mra90pavlos, I did sudo blkid /dev/sdb120:09
mra90and it says "vfat"20:09
pavlosmra90: ok, I have a similar vfat usb, it automounts in /media/$USER/usblabel as RW. As tomreyn asked, what tells you it is RO ?20:11
mra90pavlos, from start it doesn't automount20:12
mra90I had to mount it myself20:12
mra90Now i try to copy ubuntu iso image using dd20:12
mra90and it refuse to do so since as it says its "read only filesystem"20:13
mra90any idea what is wrong?20:14
ducassemra90: sounds like the usb stick is busted20:14
ioriamra90, unplug, replug and   ' dmesg | tail -20 | nc termbin.com 9999'20:14
tomreyn(without the single quotes)20:17
mra90ioria, dmesg says "[sdb] Write Protect is on"20:17
ioriamra90, unplug, replug and   ' dmesg | tail -20 | nc termbin.com 9999'20:17
lemolduHi :)20:18
ioriaif it's a corporate owned usb you cannot do nothing, i'am afraid20:18
mra90ioria, no its mine20:18
mra90I can coipy onm it on windows withoput any problem,20:18
ioriathe url, please20:19
mra90just a sec20:19
mra90I don't have internet on that device20:19
ioriamra90, can yoou see it in gparted ?20:19
mra90opsss20:19
mra90I have just made a test under windoiws and it also says its write protected oO20:20
tomreynhi lemoldu - got any ubuntu support questions?20:20
lemolduI try to make a package for my software and to upload it on launchpad ppa20:20
leftyfbmra90: open it in gparted, click on "Device" then "create partition table". Then format it.20:20
lemoldubut I have a build failure, I do not know how to solve it :(20:20
lemolduhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/464413386/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.studmanager_0.2.1-3_BUILDING.txt.gz20:21
tomreynlemoldu: there's #ubuntu-app-devel and #launchpad20:21
lemolduHi tomreyn20:21
lemolduok, thank you for your help, tomreyn20:21
mra90leftyfb, gpoarted doesn't see it20:21
leftyfbmra90: you don't see it as an option in the dropdown in the top-right?20:22
mra90even after I have mounted it myslef20:22
ioriamra90, on windows try this : https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001617.htm20:22
mra90if only I know where is the write protect bit located20:22
leftyfbioria: he probably just dd'd an iso to it. That makes it R/O. It probably just needs to be repartitioned/formatted20:23
iorialeftyfb, maybe, but he says is vfat ....20:23
sarnoldlemoldu: try adding 'python-minimal' to your build dependencies20:23
leftyfbioria: you can still dd an iso with vfat as one of the filesytems and make it all R/O20:23
mra90leftyfb, this is what I want to do but I haven't even sstarted since from start it calims it is wroite protected20:23
ioriaseems he never used dd yet20:24
leftyfbmra90: you have never written anything to this drive before?20:24
ioriamra90, the equivalent on linux should be sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX20:24
lemoldusarnold, really necessary ? there already is python3-pyqt520:25
mra90ioria, I did wwhy do you think so?20:25
leftyfb^20:25
lemoldusarnold, I will try20:25
ioriamra90, sorry ?20:25
leftyfb"<mra90> Now i try to copy ubuntu iso image using dd"20:25
sarnoldlemoldu: all I know is that in bionic the pyversions command that failed is supplied by python-minimal https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=pyversions20:25
leftyfbmra90: can you confirm that you in fact, do not see anything related to the drive in the top right dropdown menu in gparted?20:26
ioriamra90, yep, gparted is a test20:26
ioriamra90, if you can recreate the partition table, we are good20:26
mra90ioria, leftyfb in gparted I only see two partitions sda1 (boot) and sda2 (/)20:27
mra90thats all20:27
ioriamra90, ok, that's not the case20:27
leftyfbmra90: no, don't look at partitions. In the top-right in that entire gparted window, there's a dropdown menu. Do you see it?20:27
mra90I also tried sudo hdparm -ro on that device and it says setting readonly to 0 (of)20:27
ioriamra90, what sudo parted -l says ?20:27
mra90however I still can not copy20:27
ioriamra90, oh, yes you have to look at the right side at top ...20:28
mra90ioria, sudo parted -l DOES see this USB stick! :)20:28
mra90ahh yes it is also in gpparted but not where you said20:29
mra90I had to switch device on a drop down menu./..20:29
ioriamra90, ok, what you see ?20:29
ioriathat's for sure20:29
mra90anyway I  wonder why hdparm -r0 didn't help?20:29
ioriamra90, do you see the usb in gparted or not ?20:30
mra90I see this usb stick with fat32 file system20:30
mra90all properities of it are fine20:30
ioriamra90, yes or no ?20:30
leftyfbmra90: click on "Device" at the top, then click on "Create Partition Table"20:30
celphiCan someone help me setup my usb-c monitor? It's not registering as connected when i use xrandr command20:31
mra90ioria, YES I do20:31
leftyfbmra90: click on "Device" at the top, then click on "Create Partition Table"20:31
ioriamra90, do what leftyfb said20:31
mra90leftyfb, it says I can not create a new  one snce some are actie nbow20:32
leftyfbmra90: you need to unmount it20:32
mra90 "1 partition is currently active on it"20:32
leftyfbmra90: use the "umount" command in a terminal20:32
ioriamra90, right click on it20:32
leftyfbor that20:32
mra90DOne20:32
mra90now it says it will erase all data on it20:32
ioriasure20:33
leftyfbmra90: isn't that what you want?20:33
mra90what partition table should I choose from?yes it is20:33
leftyfbmra90: pick DOS20:33
leftyfbmra90: should be default20:33
ioriamodos20:33
mra90msdos rather20:33
mra90why this one?20:33
ioria*msdos20:33
leftyfbmra90: because that is the correct one for filesystems compatible with Windows machines as well as linux20:33
mra90ok fine20:34
ioriamra90, common use on usb removable; but you can set GPT20:34
mra90buu iot failed ;(20:34
leftyfbmra90: with what error? Please screenshot or pastebin20:34
mra90"Can't write to /deb/sdb/, because its opened read-only."20:35
mra90thats the error message20:35
mra90nothing more nothing less20:35
leftyfbmra90: can you screenshot it please?20:35
ioriamra90, mount | grep sdb20:36
pavlosmra90: earlier, we asked to unplug, replug and look at the bottom of dmesg. If Write protect is ON, something is going on ...20:36
mra90yes  it is write protected from start20:37
mra90mount | grep sdb returns nothing20:37
mra90I umounted it ealier after all...20:37
ioriamra90, doeas it have a switch ? no ? back to first link i posted you20:37
mra90here is the dmesg output right after  I plug it  in -> https://pastebin.com/s2QTXBt320:41
mra90there is of course no mechanical switch or sth20:41
leftyfb"[  +0,000459] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is on"20:42
ioriawe know that20:42
leftyfbmra90: what model USB drive is it?20:42
mra90leftyfb, you have it in dmesg output too20:43
mra90PGI20:43
kur1jsarnold: its just my IP address as my DNS server and when I ping mymachine.mylocaldomain.com it just says "Name or service not known"20:44
kur1jpinging google.com works20:45
kur1jthis is squarely on resolved20:45
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kur1jbecause things seem to work under 16.0420:45
pavloskur1j: does "ping mymachine" work?20:46
kur1jno20:46
kur1jI give it the fully qualified domain20:46
daneshello, Im by no means expert and this is a newbie question. I dont know how to phrase it on google and I am running on circles. Im sure its easy. The issue is I need to use a scanner with iscan. Drivers are installed. If I run it in root mode it detects the scanner and I can use it. If run normally I get error "could not send command to scanner.20:48
danesCheck the scanner status". I think I just need to add the scanner as root in a group but I dont know how.20:48
kur1jhttps://gist.github.com/vaskokj/b007e739ad181a2c9ac515da9f18370b20:48
sarnolddanes: try adduser danes scanner  then log out, log in, try again?20:49
sarnold$ host sub1.mylocaldomain.com20:49
sarnoldHost sub1.mylocaldomain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)20:49
sarnoldkur1j: looks like your domain may be busted20:49
kur1jsarnold: its not its local20:49
kur1jnone of its public20:50
sarnoldkur1j: then pick something other than .com for your local domain20:50
pavloskur1j: can you change your domain to just "mylocal"20:50
kur1jsarnold: that ship has failed20:51
kur1jsailed20:51
pavloskur1j: then ping mymachine.mylocal20:51
sarnoldI suspect that ship has also failed :)20:51
kur1jthe only thing _not_ working is ubuntu when a VPN is up20:52
kur1jubuntu broke this with systemd20:52
kur1jand I can't tell what the hell its doing20:52
pavloskur1j: nslookup mymachine.mylocal 172.16.0.2620:55
kur1jhttps://gist.github.com/vaskokj/127f52a5ad7b661700076ab9cd1c17fe20:56
kur1jworks20:56
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sarnoldkur1j: a friend says "the only sane thing to do is own a domain", but if that is impossible for some reason, home.arpa does exist for records not intending to be published https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc837520:56
pavloskur1j: is ipa your DNS ? it should be another system ... at the very bootom of the output, it shows that ipa is .26 (which is your DNS)20:57
kur1jpavlos: correct its resolving the IPA servers ip address20:58
pavloskur1j: we want to resolve mymachine which should have a diff ip20:59
kur1jhttps://gist.github.com/vaskokj/cf66ae64cd65e1eac65332cc1d96e49320:59
kur1jall that tells me is that DNS is working fine20:59
kur1jthe machine itself isn't resolving20:59
kur1jcorrectly via its systemd-resolved21:00
pavloskur1j: ping r2d2 does not work?21:00
kur1jpavlos: correct21:00
kur1jhttps://gist.github.com/vaskokj/e7fe2492619c70d86bee39d706d2b46b21:01
pavloskur1j: what is the search line in /etc/resolv.conf ... (it should be mydomain.com21:01
pavloskur1j: what is the search line in /etc/resolv.conf ... (it should be mylocaldomain.com21:01
kur1jpavlos: https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/f388dcd7051943b528a0af41f838659d21:02
kur1jbut that was kind of my original question...why does it even need the search path anyways21:03
pavloskur1j: I think on the server.conf of your vpn, you need to specify the domain and DNS entries21:07
kur1jyeah, I already did21:07
kur1jthey show up properly in my search domains on all other systems21:07
kur1jbut not on 18.0421:07
kur1jhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/172612421:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1726124 in systemd (Ubuntu) "DNS domain search paths not updated when VPN started" [High,Confirmed]21:07
ekajAnyone happen to know the easiest way to install mysql on an airgapped box that I can move files to, it just doesn't have internet? I have tried moving the mysql.deb, but then it fails on all of the dependencies21:21
mra90what could cause this permament write protect on my usb stick?21:21
mra90ekaj -> #mysql21:21
pavlosmra90: any chance you can reboot your system and try that usb stick again? it does not make sense to be RO21:23
sarnoldekaj: take a look at this package apt-offline - offline APT package manager21:23
mra90pavlos, but even windows says it is write protected21:25
pavlosmra90: can you try another usb stick? this particular usb might be toast (bad)21:26
mra90pavlos, yes other one wworks fine21:27
pavlosmra90: so this particular usb is bad21:27
pavlosmra90: it happens21:28
mra90but what could happen21:28
pavlosmra90: electronic components fail ...21:28
sarnoldor it may have a 'write protect' switch somewhere21:31
sarnoldpop the cover off and look?21:31
mra90sarnold, nothing like that21:33
bpromptekaj:  only way I can think of, run the -> sudo apt-get download mysql; <- get all those .deb files, you'd have missing dependencies, and you'd need to get them one by one, just get a list of what's needed, and download them the same way21:33
InteloHow can I compare dell M6700 laptop and Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M81-SFF-PC-Intel-Core-i5-240021:35
Intelofor which will ubuntu run faster?21:35
westorQ: how can i find my bindip ?21:45
sarnoldIntelo: if you can find out which processors both have, which memories both have, which storage options both have, which gpus both have, you can probably find reviews of those individual components on eg toms hardware or anandtech or similar sites21:49
sarnoldIntelo: this is handy for finding specific CPU benchmarks, but there's a lot more than just cpu speed that goes into computer benchmarking https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php21:50
sarnoldwestor: ip a   ?21:50
leftyfbwestor: in what context?21:50
mra90I chenged boot order in bios to boot from usb device but instead  it shows me shell>21:54
mra90how can I choose right boot option from that shell21:54
mra90I try to do help | less but it says too many arguments21:55
mra90;/21:55
Intelosarnold, ok21:55
mra90ok I figured out that in order to scroll I need to use pageUp/down21:57
mra90but now how can I choose boot device being in uefi shell?21:58
sorin-mihaimra90, dmesg should give you some hints why the ro mount. i hope you have a backup22:02
sorin-mihaimra90, are you able to reboot and get to a system boot menu with F11 or or in some BIOS/UEFI setup with F2, DEL? depends on the system, but if you get to a boot menu or to a setup menu, bios/uefi, maybe you can overwrite the boot order or at least check that you have a boot entry that is actually trying to load a kernel/os. being dropped to the uefi shell means the system, didn't find a boot partition in the 1st place, either because22:07
sorin-mihaiit's broken, or not usable22:07
mra90sorin-mihai, problem  is fixed thanks :)22:14
mortI'm using eoan-proposed. Apparently, the x86_64 libc6 package has been upgraded to version 2.30-0ubuntu2.1, but the libc6:i386 package is still on 2.30-0ubuntu2, so things are a bit confused22:38
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veeboxhey guys im sure missing the wobbly windows and stuff from 16.04(compiz i think).  what derivative of ubuntu still has it in 18.04 and 20.04? mint?23:03
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asarchAny Electrical engineer around?23:21
djapohello im trying to loop over files with spaces in their names with ls -c --reverse23:21
djapobut i am not getting the full name in the loop23:22
djapoI tried http://dpaste.com/3DHF59H but than i no longer have access to the original file name and cannot rename23:22
djapoany ideas? might also be helpful if i  could sort find ./ by ctime23:25
leftyfb!ot | asarch23:27
ubottuasarch: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:27
asarchThank you!23:27
leftyfbdjapo: use find23:27
asarchSorry for my mistake23:28
leftyfbdjapo: try quotes around "f". Or ask in #bash23:29
leftyfbdjapo: you might also try xargs23:29
sarnolddjapo: whatever you're trying to do you're probably doing it wrong23:30
sarnoldha, after looking at the pastebin I've got even less idea of what you're trying to do :)23:30
djapogreat, i already knew that what i was trying to do wasn't working23:30
sarnolddjapo: the usual better approaches are to use find . -type f -execdir ... or mmv or rename.pl23:31
djapoyes, but i want to sequential name them based on their ctime23:31
djapoand i want to also remove ' ' with '_'23:32
leftyfbdjapo: you want #bash23:33
djapothis is probably clearer http://dpaste.com/17FXSQ823:33
djapook, ill try there23:33
sarnoldmy first thought is that it'd be easier to do this in two passes -- first, remove whitespace, second, do the ctime thing23:34
djapoi got it, http://dpaste.com/012TT3C thought i would need to escape white spacec but i guess that's not a thing if i get the name from a variable23:37
sarnolddjapo: probably line 8 needs it too :)23:38
sarnoldmv "$filename" "$new_name"23:38

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