=== pbz1 is now known as pbz === MibixFox7 is now known as MibixFox === jcnmark6_ is now known as jcnmark6 === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass === Gnexally0 is now known as Gnexally === moritzdi- is now known as moritzdietz === Wryhder is now known as Lucas_Gray [00:06] Short question: When editing the schroot with schroot -c, are the changes persistent? Because I fail to use sbuild from within a schroot, obviously [00:06] And per definition I think that's why one uses chroots, to make changes to the system without affecting the host === mniip_ is now known as mniip === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [00:19] Okay mhh, doesn't work. I am trying to change the schroot's installed packages to later sbuild them, but sbuild a) upgrades them and b) doesn't even seem to see the ones I manually did with schroot -c [00:41] Is there a way to make all files created in a directory as group readable by default? A script creates hidden files without explicitly handling permission. I own the destination folder [00:49] noway96: wouldn't that be the job of "umask"? === idwer_ is now known as idwer [01:33] Its work \o/ [01:33] Hello === kinghat8 is now known as kinghat [01:47] thank's leftyfb :) [01:47] And good night === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [02:34] ufw doesn't work. I blocked x.x.0.0/16 using "sudo ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.0.0/16 to any" and yet some annoying app keeps hitting my nginx server === zbenjamin is now known as Guest90226 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [03:17] Bazoo! Hi Frens! [03:17] Aloha [03:19] Everyone have a good weekend? [03:26] Since i have the same mount on all of these, is there like a shortcut to maybe just adding the mount in one place? i'm new to docker https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YPBycnvhtj/ [03:29] !ot | nCoV_fren [03:29] nCoV_fren: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:31] can you all maybe help me understand something? I want to upgrade my ubuntu server. my provider says they will do it automatically and mount it in either xfs or ext4. Which should I choose and why? Also will it be available /dev/sda1 ? [03:33] what I mean by /dev/sda1 is will it be avaible for me to continue to use /srv/ path [03:35] sup [03:37] ext4 vs xfs .. if you don't know, choose ext4 [03:41] oerheks do you know if it will be available to use as normal under /srv/ path etc [03:41] no, that you should ask your provider [03:45] I forgot what is the utility that allows you to try different kernels like switch, upgrade, search? I think it was a simple GUI in a package [03:46] there is uuku, to test mainline kernels [03:47] paid stuff.. [03:47] lolz [03:47] oke, there is no free utility to change to mainline [03:47] !mainline [03:47] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [04:01] oh yeah it was uuku. I want to try kernel 5.6. I see there's a 5.6-rc1 on kernel.ubuntu.com -- perhaps if I wait a few days there will be a non-rc1? [04:05] make that few months, sure [04:07] fullstack: You are encouraged to join the kernel release thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2432815 . [04:16] Bashing-om, thank you. [04:17] fullstack: :) These guys on the thread stay on top :D === calcmandan_ is now known as calcmandan [04:39] oh [04:49] Hmm [05:08] can I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os? Why use a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ? [05:10] !in [05:10] #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India [05:17] i am trying to join ubuntu-in channel to talk with my fellow indians but its saying i am banned [05:17] i have never joined the server before [05:18] but now it is saying that i am banned. [05:18] so what should i do [05:19] sumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this , i guess your ip is on the blacklist [05:20] how is my ip on the blacklist when i have never joined the channel [05:20] there is one way to find out :-) [05:21] what? [05:21] sumagna; do you own your ip? [05:22] what? [05:22] sumagna; do you own your ip? [05:22] do you own the static ip address you are using [05:22] how do i know the wired connection is getting paid by my dad [05:22] so no [05:22] i think i am using dynamic ip [05:23] you are getting the your ip from another service [05:23] sumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this [05:23] joined [05:23] and someone else has used that ip before and have been banned === CarlenWhite_Err is now known as CarlenWhite [05:25] i saw the same comment on the net that someone else has used this ip and got banned [05:29] can I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os? Why use a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ? [05:33] one can use crouton for installing ubuntu versions,not sure server is an option. [05:33] why do it the hard way, what is the use for that route? [05:46] oerheks, chrome books are cheap but I like ubuntu (more power, same resource/hardware utilization if ubuntu-server+xorg+browser) [05:50] Intelo: do you actually have a chromebook right now?...have you actually tried installing ubuntu? [05:51] err, crouton is a virtual install, not the real deal [05:53] tatertots, of course not, don't want to be idiot to buy something without getting enough info [05:54] oerheks, ok. what do you think? can I install chromos on normal pc or linux on chrombook? [05:55] dunno, i use ubuntu. [05:57] i dont think you can install chrome os on normal pc [06:04] I'd like to exclude specific entries from ending up in /etc/syslog [06:05] is /etc/rsyslog.conf the correct place to do that? [06:11] Hi, if someone is interested, I just wrote a guide to make teamspeak 3 server run on raspberry pi. If someone would like to test it I dont mind to share. [06:12] elijaxapps, post it on ubuntu forum, you might get reactions/help too [06:13] oerheks I was intending to publish it on a simply githum .md file. [06:13] github* [06:14] So if there are changes it can be updated. [06:15] that is also a good idea, for the code itself [06:17] Well, I would write a bash script but first i need to test it on more than one environment. Anyway, it will be extremely complex as it have to run commands inside and outside a chroot/qemu environment [06:19] (Not so complex really but REALLY need other machines to test it, and people's feedback) [06:21] I don't need help, I helped myself. Just wanted to share, as its due. === mrinfinity is now known as infinitypirate === Euph0ria is now known as OICU812 === jelly-home is now known as jelly [08:53] I want to have multiple users with the same home directory. That home directory is also a FUSE mountpoint. What FUSE mount options do I need to ensure all users can write there? They are all members of the same group. [08:53] doesn't fuse lock it down to the session [08:54] "F USER S E" [08:54] it's a user mount [08:54] I thought that was one of the limitations (by design) === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [08:54] Yeah it gets run as root, once. not once per user. in this case. [08:54] not that it's relevant to the question but it's s3fs. [08:55] rory: sorry, I meant the actual mount is in that users process jail [08:55] I didn't mean user space as in user/kernel space [08:55] I Didn't think, maybe wrongly, it could be made wider like that [08:55] I'm not a huge user of it personally [08:55] half asking myself while answering [08:55] usually yeah but there is some option you can add in fstab that allows other users to write there [08:55] really ? [08:56] I've seen it before and I know it's possible but I can't remember [08:56] "umask" or similar option [08:56] the umask could make the target it writes to available I guess, but not the mount [08:57] eg: if you mounted /tmp to /home/rory - did stuff in /home/rory /tmp would be correct [08:57] but I thought that /home/rory would always be just rory [08:57] (for example only) [08:57] it's to do with the session used for the mount [08:57] but that maybe certainly providers only eg: sshfs [08:57] where your ssh auth is the access control [08:58] (again asking while answering) [09:02] http://prntscr.com/r02es7 [09:02] I am getting this error while i try to purge remove my previous mysql installation [09:02] and re-install [09:06] Hi, I try to reboot a laptop with a usb Ubuntu image. with out unmounting the usb drive [09:06] i do echo 1 > /run/casper-no-prompt; [09:06] reboot [09:07] but that shutsdown the laptop [09:08] rory: I can't find anything in the docs yet [09:09] daft_dutch: it will have to unmount it [09:10] Northwoods: looks like you've tried to manually remove it first so files it expects are missing [09:10] the usb is the root device cant unmount it. [09:10] daft_dutch: you're rebooting the server [09:10] daft_dutch: that will unmount it by default [09:10] as the OS that mounts it will not be running [09:11] yea but the reboot command turns off the laptop. i need a reboot [09:11] ikonia, True [09:11] as in powers off fully until you press the power button [09:11] or powers off for a second and powers back on [09:12] Northwoods: ok - so either a.) manually fix what you've broken b.) try to use the cleanup processs suggested in the error message [09:12] ikonia, i am not so good at it [09:12] i mean ubuntu [09:12] it shutdown the laptop. not turning on [09:15] daft_dutch: sounds like an apci bug [09:16] ikonia, echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger does reboot the system [09:19] sysrq is a panic though [09:19] totally different situation than a reboot [09:21] ikonia, how to fix it manually [09:21] or how to re-install it from scratch [09:21] have you tried --fix-broken as the error states [09:21] or manually putting back the files it says are missing ? [09:29] ikonia, tried --fixpbroken [09:29] ikonia, tried --fix-broken [09:43] ikonia, http://prntscr.com/r034zo [09:45] Northwoods, nice. you removed files you not suppose to delete. get an example file from somewhere. [09:47] daft_dutch, but i don't even know which file is requried [09:56] Northwoods, the dir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ [09:56] daft_dutch, ok [10:03] daft_dutch, damn.... it was such a small thing [10:03] little knowledge is even worse than no knowledge [10:04] read back your error file it states the dir does not exist [10:05] sudo mysql_secure_installation [10:05] Try that. [10:06] I think you have to configure it before you can run it. [10:06] configure in what sense [10:06] i ran phpmyadmin [10:06] it is working [10:06] nelgin, ^ [10:06] * nelgin shrugs [10:07] Screen capture says "mysql-server-5.7 is not configured" [10:08] nelgin, i installed it with apt-get install mysql-server [10:08] Maybe running it manually will give some insight into why its failing? [10:08] after that [10:08] after installation it worked [10:08] nelgin, ? [10:08] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [10:08] What version of ubuntu? [10:08] 16.04 [10:09] Hmm, might be different with an earlier version then. [10:09] Hmm nope [10:09] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-16-04 [10:09] sudo apt-get update [10:09] sudo apt-get install mysql-server [10:09] mysql_secure_installation [10:10] That's me done, I'm going to bed. Night. [10:10] nelgin, what is purpose of mysql_secure_installation [10:25] this is what happened when I tried to run LXD container: https://bpaste.net/ZTFQ === ghormoon_ is now known as ghormoon [10:37] heya [10:37] dear members [10:37] I would need a software like Superputty so that I can aggregate into multiple tabs each terminal instance [10:37] Is there any software which I can use on Ubuntu? [10:38] FrankyGov: terminator, konsole [10:42] also tmux, screen [10:43] wpk, thank you so much. I just installed it through Ubuntu control panel [10:43] ducasse, thanks as well [11:16] I am getting this error [11:16] Could not initialize class org.apache.commons.ssl.TrustMaterial [11:17] it's a java problem [11:31] Hi folks [11:59] I have enabled ntp.service in SystemD on Ubuntu Bionic, however after a reboot it is inactive, does anybody have any ideas? Thanks [12:01] mlokpc: doesn't bionic use systemd time [12:01] not systemd to launch ntp [12:02] ikonia: when I list enabled services ntp is listed as enabled [12:02] right, but is it actually starting [12:03] ikonia: no it is always inactive [12:03] or it is trying to start and failing as it conflicts with systemd-time [12:03] ikonia: just a second, I will verify that [12:05] ikonia: systemd-time was enabled so I disabled it, let's see after a reboot now [12:06] ikonia: works [12:20] Hey anyone have been able to install windows 3.5 on qemu/kvm ? [12:21] win nt 3.5 can only detect IDE cd-rom adapter [12:21] and fdc floppies [12:21] can't detect the disk [12:21] you need NT drivers on a disk to load things like SCSI [12:21] the guys in ##windows can help [12:21] IK I have the .vfd from fedora wiki / floppy windows x86 driver disk [12:22] but it is 2.45MiB over the size of a floppy [12:22] so it gets detected as damaged? [12:22] then it's not designed for windows NT floppy support [12:23] yeah ik, I need to check the full windows iso iirc it had drivers for 3.5 though I might be wrong and it was for 4.0 [12:23] How do I get systemd to drop and rediscover / reinitialise a wired network adapter? [12:23] 3.5 was a seperate driver disk [12:24] duibhneach: why would it need to re-discvoer it [12:24] what's the issue [12:24] The issue is that while trying to setup a VLAN I messed up the network entirely. [12:24] ok ? so just re-configure it [12:25] As s (stupid) move to dfix I purged NetworkManager and now I don't even get a link light [12:25] so work the problem [12:25] rather than suggesting a solution you think will work [12:26] I want to ask if ubuntu supports/ships xembed tray icons if https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is uninstalled? [12:26] have a look [12:26] list the packages - so if it's there [12:26] look in the repo see if it's available [12:26] that's a gnome extension though [12:27] so not normally shipped in ubuntu packages for the majority [12:27] hi there! sorry, very noobish question: i am trying to move a folder with files and subfolders into another folder. "mv ../some/folder/ newfolder/" but i get an error that the directory is not empty. why? i expected mv to move EVERYTHING under the source path to the new path. [12:27] >whatever that is, we dont support it. Windows 8.1 or greater [12:27] I suppose I am looking for a clue as to which config file is in control of my networking in Ubuntu 18.04 [12:27] ##windows doesn't support windows 7 or lower so [12:27] *8 [12:27] kubast2: fair enough [12:27] and how to to bring them to a default state [12:28] duibhneach: if you've uninstalled network manager, you must have configured it some other way [12:28] Using "netplan" was my aim [12:28] what am i doing wrong? [12:29] duibhneach: so you have a choice of either progressing forward with netplan, or backing it out and returning to network manager [12:29] friendlyguy: make sure you're not in the directory [12:29] i am not [12:29] friendlyguy: mv directory/* /path/to/new/directory [12:29] why the asterisk? [12:30] ikonia: I would like to move forward with "netplan" but any changes I make there seem not to be having any affect [12:30] friendlyguy: wildcards [12:30] okay, same error msg, but now for subfolders of the folder i am trying to move [12:30] duibhneach: so you need to state our clearly what you want to do, and what you've done and what the current problem is [12:33] there is no -r or -R... so i guess i am using it wrong [12:34] ikonia: will try to gather my thoughts and info on it [12:34] ikonia: thanks [12:34] friendlyguy: who said -r [12:34] i tried it [12:34] friendlyguy: just move the directory if it contains sub directories [12:34] eg: mv /olddir /newdir [12:35] same error msg [12:35] friendlyguy: show me the exact command you're using please [12:36] mv ../some/folder/ newfolder/ [12:36] friendlyguy: why is it .. [12:36] hm? [12:36] friendlyguy: that is not the EXACT command [12:36] friendlyguy: show me the exact command please [12:36] its the exact command, except the directory names... they are too long to type [12:37] friendlyguy: cut and paste [12:37] or use a pastebin [12:37] no remote [12:37] no copy paste [12:37] then how did you mv .. ? [12:37] friendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place [12:38] by typing and with bash completion? [12:38] okay, lets try that [12:38] no [12:38] cd /where/you/need/to/be [12:39] then mv directory /new/place [12:39] directory not empty [12:39] ah [12:39] show me the command you used [12:39] i did the 1 level up one [12:39] show me the command you typed [12:40] mv folder/tocopy/ newfolder/ [12:40] then you're ot onelevel up are you [12:40] you're two levels up [12:40] and that's the current working directory [12:40] use the gui [12:40] you are stuggling with basic command line details [12:41] if I install the general ubuntu 18.04 iso what DM am I getting gnome? [12:41] it doesnt look like gnome [12:41] Kingsy: it is gnome [12:41] oh ok [12:41] nope, 1 level not 2. [12:42] friendlyguy: then you can't type the commands as folder/twocopy = 2 levels [12:42] so you typed the command wrong, folder = 1 tocopy =2 [12:42] dont get rude, if you dont wanna help: dont. ../folder/tocopy == folder/tocopy just 1 level up [12:42] friendlyguy: I'm not being rude [12:42] ghostcube: I'm stating fact [12:42] hey can someone help me find a guide to create a wifi hotspot from another wifi hotspota [12:43] i keep finding guides but nothing actually gives me a network conenction [12:43] friendlyguy: folder = going into one level, tocopy inside "folder" = 2 levells [12:43] i get to the pooint of creating the hotspot, i connect to the hotspot and it has no internet :( [12:43] Psil0Cybin1: can you actually daisy chain hotspots ? [12:45] ikonia, what do u mean my attempt or ask is this: I am liing in an house with many people i want ot create my own hotspot from their hotspot so i can make a firewall [12:45] so I am looking to emulate something like this -> https://imgur.com/3AmYqfL <- that is gnome, can anyone think which dock might be able to do something like that? It doesnt seem possible with the regular gnome settings tool [12:45] on my machine [12:46] yes i could use a VPN [12:46] but i want to create a firewall than -> vpn [12:46] off each device. === The_Milkman1 is now known as The_Milkman [12:46] so i want all my wifi to connect to my second wireless card on my machine [12:46] Psil0Cybin1 that doesn't sounds like a good model [12:46] what do you recommend [12:46] Psil0Cybin1: I'm not sure why you're trying to do this, rather than just connect to the hostspot and use it [12:46] but if i want extra privacy [12:47] or make sure that my devices are not visable? [12:47] Psil0Cybin1: you won't get it [12:47] ikonia: you were right if you said go one level up and INTO the folder, but you didnt. i did exactly what you asked me to. go one level up. learn to read! and no, thanks. ill figure it out without your help... gladly. [12:47] friendlyguy: I said go to one level above the folder [12:47] Kingsy: they just seem like very big icons. not any specific docks [12:48] 12:37 < ikonia> friendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place [12:48] hmm yeah I am starting think thats the case. [12:48] go to the directory - then 1 level up [12:48] friendlyguy: "learn to read" [12:48] Kingsy: that will be some sort of app / plugin for gnome shell or a media app [12:48] looks very nice [12:49] ikonia, what do yo umean i will not get it?| [12:49] Psil0Cybin1: you won't get what you want [12:49] Psil0Cybin1: just use the wifi - and make sure you browse using SSL etc [12:49] oh okay [12:49] so you really do no trecommend me setting up a wifi spot from a wifi spot and making a firewall connection + setup a vpn, than use a vpn on my devices? [12:50] Psil0Cybin1: I recommended none of that [12:50] I just really want extra security but if you think i wont accomplish what i want i will take your advice. [12:50] okay. [12:50] Psil0Cybin1: I recommended connecting to the hotspot and using it [12:50] interesting [12:50] okay [12:50] thanks for you input [12:52] is there a smart way to delete a list from sources.list.d and also any packages that were installed from it? [12:53] devster31: index the packages and anything that's tagged as from the repo you want purge it [12:53] then remove the list file from sources.list.d [12:53] devster31: check out ppa-purge [12:54] ikonia how can I index the packages grouped by repo? [12:54] ducasse unfortunately these aren't ppas [12:54] devster31: there is a dpkg extension command that can list the repo [12:54] you can still use it, read the man page [12:54] I can't think of it off the top of my head [12:54] works similar to apt-cache but for installed packages [12:54] devster31, synaptic can easily filter that [12:55] true, the gui is great [12:56] no gui unfortunately, I'll try with ppa-purge and aptitude [12:56] thanks === bynarie_ is now known as bynarie [13:42] is there a known issue with multiverse packages that could affect official or unofficial derivatives? [13:42] trying to install steam under pop!_os and currently getting tons of dependency breakages [13:44] i think it's because libc6 is in proposed as 0ubuntu2.1 but libc6:i386 is not in proposed [13:48] LordRyan: we don't support pop os, sorry [13:48] I'm asking specifically about Ubuntu repositories regardless of whether or not it's under a derivative or Ubuntu directly, if there's a known issue. [13:48] I think the issue is that libc6 and libc6:i386 have differring versions as one is updated in -proposed. [13:51] hi. i'm having a problem with networking. i live on a network that is controlled by mac addresses. when i am in windows the DHCP server correctly assigns me an IP, but on ubuntu it does not [13:51] i tried using macchanger to change my mac to another known mac that works, and the OS gets an IP address fine [13:52] ducasse: that fixed it so it may be an issue with official Ubuntu as well [13:52] this is a dual boot machine [13:53] usualy you have the same mac address on all your OS… except if you forge it [13:53] yeah Ool that's why this error is strange [13:53] it is the same mac, i've checked but the DHCP refuses to assign an ip on ubuntu [13:54] i'm tailing /etc/syslog and i see entries like DHCPDISCOVER on iface to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 (xid-0x5.....) [13:54] NO DHCPOFFERS received [13:55] but when i use macchanger to spoof another mac address which is known working it works fine in ubuntu [13:56] people, i have a .csv file that i need to export as an excel file in order to upload it to a server. how can i accomplish that in ubuntu? is there a converter? or an app i install? or an office immulator? [13:56] nirakara: ask the admin, perhaps there is an extension to limit this usage [13:57] acresearch: for me excel can read csv directly [13:58] Ool: i know, but i need to export th csv into an excel file [13:58] i do not need to modify anything, i just need the format [13:59] libreoffice or excel can open it and export it to .xls [14:00] Ool: oh nioce, is there excel for ubuntu? [14:00] Nope. [14:00] oh [14:01] but libre office can export to an excel file? [14:01] gnumeric should also be able to do it, if you want something lighter [14:06] ok got it,,, thanks :-) [14:09] Hey guys I'm trying to configure iptables but I'm running into issues because it appears some of my block rules are taking priority over the accept ones. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y2CFRV78wH/ [14:09] The rules to block all other traffic at the bottom appear to be disconnecting ssh even though I've explicitly allowed them from the local network above that. [14:16] Arimil: the problem is the in the output queue. there is nothing allowed right now [14:17] you have two options there: 1 allow outing pkg fro specific protocols/port [14:17] 2. using stateful firewall rules and add -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT [14:17] so all you packets currently get blocked because of -P OUTPUT DROP [14:18] Ah I see, thanks. [14:18] also blocking everything on lo0 might have some weird sideeffects [14:18] Yeah I think maybe just blocking incoming connections would be enough. [14:19] currently now outgoing traffic would be possible as all as -P OUTPUT DROP without any other rule really blocks everything [14:20] not sure which level of security you are aiming for [14:21] Fairly high but it seems like it would be a pain to whitelist every outbound connection. Especially when installing updates and such. [14:22] Good morning [14:23] I am looking to install I ubuntu on an older P [14:23] PC [14:23] Want to completely wipe Win 7 [14:23] !flavours | speeder39_ [14:23] speeder39_: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [14:24] Arimil: it might end up in a lot of lines with different IP spaces as by today more and more CDNs used for update which changes there IP very often [14:24] Flavors???? Like flavors of ice cream???? [14:24] speeder39_ it's different desktop environments [14:24] Arimil: are you in the USA [14:25] also https://rufus.ie if you're installing from windows 7 you'll need to download something like this to setup a bootable drive [14:25] how is that relevant? [14:25] Just curious Arimil [14:25] Yes, I am. === kreyren_ is now known as kreyren [14:27] Is that the link to set up drive. I can on a USB drive [14:27] how in the world do you remove the left bar? the dock? you you "hide" it when a window moves over it, but I just want to totally remove it [14:28] Which flavor ubuntu most similar to win 10 [14:28] Arimil: so far clarified with the iptables issue? [14:28] speeder39_, To Windows 10? Kubuntu, I'd say. [14:28] speeder39_: we dont really take polls here [14:28] speeder39_ yes that's what that link is for setting up a drive [14:29] That is Irish link with.ie at end [14:29] pent1ckel yeah I'm good for now I realized the mistake I made [14:30] speeder39_, But if your PC is really old, you're gonna be more satisfied with Xubuntu (light), Ubuntu MATE (intermediate) or Lubuntu (very light). [14:30]