[00:06] <satanist> hi I have now the secound pc with don't start proberly, looks like dbus don't work
[00:06] <satanist> i.e. service status produce a timeout http://ix.io/2bmB
[00:07] <Church-> Heya sarnold
[00:07] <Church-> sarnold: I've come to realize deb packaging is the devil
[00:07] <sarnold> hey Church- :)
[00:08] <sarnold> Church-: heh, how long did that take? :)
[00:08] <sarnold> satanist: does journalctl work? what's the end of journalctl -ex   report?
[00:08] <Church-> Trying to figure out how to get the executable step set on a script installed by a deb I'm generating
[00:09] <Church-> Finally realized I need postinst scripts
[00:09] <Church-> Now just getting it working
[00:09] <satanist> sarnold: yes, but i haven't found anything yet
[00:11] <sarnold> Church-: hmm, that doesn't sound right; i can't recall ever spotting anything like that in postinsts before
[00:12] <sarnold> satanist: systemd was updated five or six days ago, https://usn.ubuntu.com/4269-1/
[00:12] <satanist> sarnold: Feb 11 01:11:58 i61pc001 dbus-daemon[635]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms) a few times
[00:12] <sarnold> satanist: so I'm curious if there's any messages or warnings from about the time you installed the update
[00:12] <Church-> sarnold: Huh, it might because we're installing to /opt
[00:12] <Church-> So our executable bit gets stripped?
[00:13] <sarnold> Church-: hmm, no idea there, I've never seen debs install into /opt before
[00:13] <sarnold> I'd be surprised though..
[00:13] <Church-> Yeah, ours do.
[00:13] <satanist> sarnold: there where working reboots after this on these pcs, atfter the last working reboot only libqt was updated
[00:14] <sarnold> satanist: aha; thanks; I'm not sure what exactly that means for your problem :( but it makes sense
[00:16] <satanist> a found a warning: http://ix.io/2bmH
[00:16] <satanist> now were do I find the core?
[00:20] <sarnold> satanist: oh weird :/ there may be one in /var/crash/
[00:23] <satanist> nope, it's in /core
[00:23] <sarnold> strange
[00:25] <Church-> Oh stupid question is there a good way to disable apport on boot? Seems `systemctl disable` doesn't cut it given it's a wrapped init script
[00:27] <satanist> so now were are the debug symbols for systemd?
[00:29] <Church-> No but I thought apport is an Ubuntu crash reporter.
[00:29] <sarnold> satanist: dbgsyms are often available via http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/
[00:30] <sarnold> satanist: you can add new deb lines to your apt sources to include this server, just mirror the existing entries for your release, but use ddebs.ubuntu.com instead of whatever your archive host is
[00:31] <Church-> Oh misunderstood that, woops.
[00:33] <sarnold> Church-: maybe just apt purge apport? (make sure that doesn't take anything else important with it)
[00:33] <Church-> Yeah some stuff has it as a dep
[00:33] <Church-> So that's a no go
[00:34] <satanist> sarnold: thanks
[00:34] <sarnold> Church-: you can use equivs to build a fake package to take its place, perhaps
[00:35] <Church-> Ugh, aye yeah.
[00:35] <Church-> Not great for prod though. I just need a way to ensure it's dead
[00:36] <Church-> Maybe I can mask it...
[00:40] <cgi> I am looking for a solution for syncing a remote webserver directory to my desktop so that I can edit it, and it automatically syncs. The remote directory is a git repo. sshfs is too slow.
[00:45] <satanist> Church-: echo "enabled=0" > /etc/default/apport
[00:47] <Church-> Ah righteous duh, should've thought of using /etc/default/
[00:51] <satanist> so installed the debug symbols, but still no working backtrace
[00:51] <satanist> any idea what can I do to debug this?
[01:00] <linelevel> Hi. Following the official instructions for creating a bootable USB stick from within MacOS just `dd`s the ISO to the drive, and there is no persistent storage. How do I make the kind with persistent storage (i.e. so the data in my /home directory persists across reboots)?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> !persistence | linelevel
[01:06] <Scriptonaut> hey all, I have an drive, and all the files on it belong to root and a group called 'data-user'. I have a user who belogns to the data-user group, and is therefore allowed to make new files on the drive. However, when I make a new file, the file is always my_user:my_user, owned by the user, and his primary group. How can I make it so new files automatically belong to root and the data-user group?
[01:06] <Scriptonaut> an nfs drive*
[01:07] <Scriptonaut> is there a way to configure a drive, or directory, so that all files created on it belong to a certain user and group?
[01:08] <Sleaker> Scriptonaut: pretty sure you can use setuig/setgid bits on directories for that
[01:08] <Sleaker> setuid*/setgid
[01:09] <Sleaker> but that might only work for gid
[01:09] <Sleaker> yah looks like setuid is only a BSD thing
[01:10] <Sleaker> you can chmod g+s to a directory so that files created in it inherit the gid.
[01:10] <Sleaker> but that might not do as much as you want.
[01:12] <Scriptonaut> ahh
[01:13] <Bashing-om> Scriptonaut: 'chown' changes the owner of the directory and 'chmod' allows you to change the permissions of the file or directory. See the man pages for details.
[01:13] <Scriptonaut> Bashing-om: I know, I'm talking about newly created files
[01:13] <Scriptonaut> I want them to inherit the user/group of the parent directory
[01:13] <Scriptonaut> Sleaker: ahh, ok so I can set the gid bit but not uid
[01:13] <Scriptonaut> guess I'll have to manuallys chown every time I create a new file
[01:22] <jschwalbe> can anyone help me understand why after rebooting my computer running ubuntu, it no longer goes into the GUI but command line only?
[01:23] <jschwalbe> (and for some reaosn it's not automatically getting an IP from dhcp)
[01:24] <sarnold> jschwalbe: take a look at journalctl -xe, hopefully there's something there that suggests what's happening
[01:29] <linelevel> @Bashing-om Thank you for the link, but that guide does not seem to cover making the persistent storage auto-mount as /home. It also does not seem to address using the same USB stick for the ISO and the persistence.
[01:29] <jschwalbe> @sarnold hard to know what i'm looking for, but "-- Subject: Unit graphical.target has finished start-up
[01:31] <jschwalbe> i reset my unifi USG, but that shouldn't stop it from obtaining an IP or starting up the GUI.. right?
[01:32] <sarnold> what do you mean by 'reset'?
[01:32] <jschwalbe> literally factory reset it
[01:32] <sarnold> did you configure something on your network to hand out DHCP leases?
[01:33] <sarnold> hopefully the gui would start up even without a network connection
[01:34] <jschwalbe> i believe so... when i run `sudo dhclient` it gets an ip
[01:35] <Bashing-om> linelevel: Sorry, that was the extent of my direct expereince, Maybe consider to install the OS in the USB ?
[01:37] <jschwalbe> can you tell me the command line to start the default GUI?
[01:37] <jschwalbe> (I've tried startx)
[01:38] <abro0420> So, I'm attempting to install 18.04 from the Ubuntu website onto a disk, but whenever I select burn image to disk, I get a update that says the selected disk image file isn't vaild
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | abro0420 did you verify?
[01:40] <sarnold> jschwalbe: try systemctl restart display-manager.service
[01:41] <sarnold> abro0420: are your discs large enough? I don't think the ISOs fit on cdroms any more, and I have no idea if they work in dvds or blurays
[01:42] <abro0420> It should be, I have a 4.7gb disk and a empty partition of 39 gbs
[01:43] <jschwalbe> @sarnold "Failed to restart display-manager.service: Unit display-manager.service not found."
[01:45] <sarnold> jschwalbe: ooookay. that's odd. I have to admit I don't know much about the defaults but I certainly expected that to work
[01:45] <jschwalbe> splendid.. heh
[01:46] <linelevel> @Bashing-om I don't understand the suggestion, "install the OS in the USB"? Are you suggesting that I can overwrite a bootable USB drive while I'm booted from it?
[01:48] <sarnold> jacober: how about systemctl status --all
[01:48] <sarnold> that'll be endless amounts of output, hopefully something stands out
[01:52] <abro0420> my checksum do match up
[01:53] <Bashing-om> linelevel: No, use the install medium to install to another USB device, Similar to installing to a drive.
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> abro0420: ok great, so how do you burn your iso exactly?
[01:54] <abro0420> thats what I
[01:54] <linelevel> @Bashing-om I seem to recall a few years ago that the recommended tool for creating a LiveUSB in Ubuntu gave the option of setting aside some space on the target device for a persistent /home
[01:55] <abro0420> m attempting to figure out, I found the one disk image in the files, labeled "efi" and right clicked on it, then clicked on burn disk image
[01:56] <Bashing-om> linelevel: Mega thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 <-sudodus/Howto make USB boot drives.
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> abro0420: dont you have an usb stick handy to create an ubuntu usb?
[01:57] <abro0420> I'm running old school
[01:57] <abro0420> all I've got are dvds and cds
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> ok
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> !burn | abro0420
[02:01] <jschwalbe> @sarnold is lightdm the default display? if it's not installed is that bad?
[02:02] <jschwalbe> "dpkg-reconfigure: lightdm is not installed"
[02:02] <sarnold> jschwalbe: lightdm was the default a (few?) releases ago.. it might be gdm now
[02:02] <jschwalbe> ok..
[02:04] <Bashing-om> jschwalbe: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ?
[02:05] <sarnold> Bashing-om: there's no gui running at all
[02:06] <Bashing-om> sarnold: :( Teach me not to read :P
[02:06] <sarnold> Bashing-om: hehe :)
[02:07] <jschwalbe> i'm typing on a terminal cuz ssh not working. should i skip that command?
[02:10] <jschwalbe> strange enough, it responds to pings (and stops when restarting) and thinks sshd is running, but i cannot access it.
[02:11] <sarnold> try systemctl restart ssh.service  maybe it missed binding to the IP you got by hand via dhclient
[02:13] <jschwalbe> no dice
[02:13] <jschwalbe> (tried sshd as well)
[02:14] <jschwalbe> when i re-enter `sudo dhclient` i can ssh in after a reboot. but if i reboot, it doesn't hold
[02:15] <sarnold> right, that'll be another problem to troubleshoot
[02:15] <sarnold> are you expecting to use network manager on that system? or systemd-networkd? or is this an older system, and /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:15] <jschwalbe> ok so i'm logged in from my laptop now via ssh
[02:16] <jschwalbe> this is running 18.04 and i (think) I had been using whatever the GUI manager is
[02:18] <callmebhawesh> can anyone told me that why an error has occured when checking for livepatch updates?
[02:18] <jschwalbe> @sarnold i looked thru the /var/syslog from earlier in the day, and it shows: NetworkManager[884]: <info>  [1581313724.5532] dhcp4 (eno1)
[02:19] <jschwalbe> maybe that answers your question?
[02:19] <sarnold> jschwalbe: do you see anything interesting in the output from systemctl status network-manager  ?
[02:20] <jschwalbe> says "active(running)" and has a number of devices from /sys/devices/virtual/net/vethxxxxxx <-- i'm guessing docker?
[02:21] <jschwalbe> but i see nothing about en0
[02:21] <jschwalbe> eno1 rather
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> callmebhawesh: does your error say something?
[02:31] <jschwalbe> when i reboot i do see the pretty ubuntu screen with the dots, so *something* must be working
[02:34] <jschwalbe> sarnold: so on the console when i reboot it gives some errors which are interesting. i'm not sure i thought them important, but maybe so. they are regardin the /etc/update-motd, and the main error which keeps getting repeated is: lsb_release: not found
[02:34] <jschwalbe> isn't that weird that lsb_release would be missing all of a sudden?
[02:35] <juanonymous> off question, but i guess someone knows what and how to install this lib. `libmysqlclient lib... configure: error: Cannot find libmysqlclient.so in /usr/lib/mysql use --with-mysql-lib=?`
[02:35] <juanonymous> that is for an irc bot that i wanted to test
[02:36] <urxtnw> Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu sets up the password under the hood? I have a username and a password, correct? I am not root, but Ubuntu puts my username in etc/sudoers ?
[02:36] <oerheks> urxtnw, 1st user created during install has that sudo rights
[02:36] <sarnold> jschwalbe: that is strange. what's dpkg -l lsb-release look like?
[02:37] <jschwalbe> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:37] <jschwalbe> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[02:37] <jschwalbe> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[02:37] <jschwalbe> ||/ Name                            Version              Architecture         Description
[02:37] <jschwalbe> +++-[02:37] <jschwalbe> rc  lsb-release                     9.20170808ubuntu1    all                  Linux Standard Base version reporting utility
[02:37] <urxtnw> oerheks, yeah but HOW, and how is it compared to root
[02:37] <oerheks> !paste
[02:38] <oerheks> urxtnw, it is a combined account, on other linux versions one has a root account during install, and add an other for user
[02:39] <oerheks> this is the benefit of ubuntu, not hassle with root or user
[02:39] <urxtnw> oerheks, how do you combine accounts like that in other distros?
[02:39] <oerheks> urxtnw, not.
[02:39] <jschwalbe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qbvKhTyxsg/
[02:39] <urxtnw> oerheks, doesn't ubunut have a root user since it's from debian?
[02:39] <jschwalbe> sorry bout that
[02:39] <jschwalbe> wasn't sure what the line limit was doing to be  :o
[02:39] <oerheks> urxtnw, thsi is by design.
[02:42] <jschwalbe> is there a way to just reinstall but keep my data? :\
[02:43] <jschwalbe> i have no idea what happened, and i suppose nobody else will either. but it seems like something got deleted or corrupted
[02:43] <jschwalbe> ...somehow
[02:45] <sarnold> jschwalbe: oh very strange; I wonder what else important you're missing :(
[02:46] <sarnold> jschwalbe: try sudo apt install ubuntu-minimal  and see wwhat happens..
[02:47] <jschwalbe> took about 5 seconds to run
[02:47] <sarnold> how many packages does it want to install?
[02:47] <jschwalbe> 5
[02:47] <jschwalbe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VmZ9XK8CwS/
[02:49] <jschwalbe> if it matters, i already apt installed' lsb_release, so it wouldn't show up on that paste if you were expecting it
[02:50] <jschwalbe> well now the network comes up automatically. that's a very big plus.
[02:50] <sarnold> jschwalbe: how about the ubuntu-desktop package?
[02:50] <sarnold> yay
[02:50] <jschwalbe> (i had unplugged a z-wave dongle - gonna try one more reboot before clapping my hands)
[02:51] <jschwalbe> *claps*
[03:05] <jschwalbe> @sarnold, running `sudo apt install lightdm` and then `sudo systemctl start graphical.target` installed a bunch of stuff and then started the gui. (didn't even have to switch/dpkg-reconfigure it to lightdm as far as i can tell)
[03:06] <sarnold> jschwalbe: do be aware that lightdm isn't the default in 18.04; I don't know what exactly the default is, but lightdm may get less testing
[03:06] <jschwalbe> & survives reboot
[03:06] <jschwalbe> i don't think it's actually running lightdm (i may be wrong)
[03:07] <sarnold> ha
[03:08] <jschwalbe> well perhaps i spoke too early - it gives me the login screen but cannot actually login
[03:12] <Bashing-om> jschwalbe: At that login screen - ctl+alt+F4 to gain  terminal interface, can you log into the system here ?
[03:13] <jschwalbe> one sec - i forgot to try your recommendation about installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <jschwalbe> @sarnold, things are definitely working better now. i might still end up doing a reinstall and transfer what i need back on, but this is nice to have things working for the time-being
[03:35] <jschwalbe> thanks so very much for your help
[03:37] <sarnold> jschwalbe: excellent! glad to hear it :)
[03:38] <jschwalbe> any ideas on how to least painfully attempt a reinstall? probably start out with a fresh install on a blank drive
[03:40] <sarnold> jschwalbe: heh, I've done like six or seven fresh installs of ubuntu and debian over the last twenty-three-ish years... I'm not so sure about those sorts of things :)
[03:40] <jschwalbe> haha
[03:49] <shmam> Hey I'm not sure what happened but my ssh key doesn't seem to be working anymore. I tried to pull from a github repo via ssh but it said no permission. I updated the one on github.com to be the one on my machine but it still didn't work. My remote server which I ssh using pubkey also isn't working. I'm honestly not sure what to even google bc this shouldn't happen and I really don't know what could have caused it
[03:57] <prologic> Is there a problem with the flocal-security repo on 20.04 right now?
[03:57] <prologic> E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease' is not signed.
[03:57] <prologic> This was working up until a few mins ago
[04:00] <shmam> hmmm
[04:00] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | prologic
[04:00] <shmam> any ideas on my ssh issue?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !patience | shmam see also #openssh
[04:02] <tomreyn> shmam: start by explaining which ubuntu release and variant you're using there, how you expect this automation (?) of pulling ssh keys from github into some of your users' authorized_keys to work.
[04:03] <tomreyn> i know the 18.04 LTS server installer offers this during installation, but i'm not sure it's meant to keep updating from github, i understood it to be a one-shot import.
[04:06] <robertparkerx> I got a volume from my provider and it named the path /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 - how can I rename this?
[04:06] <tomreyn> is it configued in /etc/fstab?
[04:06] <robertparkerx> Yes
[04:07] <robertparkerx> . /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0HC_Volume_4264023 /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 ext4 discard,nofail,defaults 0 0
[04:08] <robertparkerx> I just want it to be /mnt/disk1
[04:10] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: well fstab defines where file systems are mounted at. you just need to change the mount point and ensure it exists (as a directory)
[04:22] <gambl0r3> hi my micro sd card is not being detected. how can i check to see whats wrong
[04:24] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: detach it, run    journalctl -f    in a terminal, attach it, press ctrl-c on the terminal to stop the output, review / share the output
[04:25] <gambl0r3> https://pastebin.com/sT9rPuUh
[04:26] <tomreyn> !crosspost | gambl0r3
[04:27] <tomreyn> (this also goes for ##linux)
[04:34] <DarwinElf> Intel C230 audio is greyed out.  Sox/play won't play to my other (monitor) audio.  Beep doesn't beep the PC speaker.  I need help with all of these
[05:00] <raub> Trivial question: trying to enable iommu and going nowhere slowly: https://paste.centos.org/view/7d3af348. Shouldn't I see something in /sys/kernel/iommu_groups?
[05:06] <tomreyn> raub: is it enabled on the bios setup screen?
[05:07] <tomreyn> you should not need to specifically 'enable' iommu support on ubuntu, it'd get used automatically if found to be available (and not broken)
[05:21] <raub> tomreyn: It seems my problem is one level down, specifically as the name implies it is a kvm guest.
[05:22] <raub> I need to now find out how to enable that on the guest
[05:31] <tomreyn> raub: you'Re doing nested virtualization there?
[05:33] <tomreyn> if so, why, if not, why do you still need iommu on the guest?
[05:34] <raub> just vfio support
[05:37] <tomreyn> this is for arch, and not maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but it may help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF
[06:21] <LionOpeter> Hi, I am using hexchat with Ubuntu 18.04 and trying to use lua script but i get: `Unknown file type ...lua. Maybe you need to install the Perl or Python plugin?`
[06:22] <LionOpeter> I have a python script which i can load so it's not python which is missing
[06:23] <bindi> sounds like a #hexchat problem
[06:23] <LionOpeter> Oh, i didn't know they have a channel
[06:23] <LionOpeter> Thanks bindi
[07:52] <gambl0re> hello?
[07:55] <ducasse> hi
[08:06] <zetheroo> for some reason an Ubuntu 18.04 user has OpenOffice installed on their system instead of LO. Is there any way to find out what date OpenOffice was installed?
[08:09] <ducasse> zetheroo: check /var/log/apt/history.log*, search for the package name and see the head of that section
[08:09] <gambl0re> ducasse, hi
[08:09] <ducasse> zetheroo: it says 'log started' and a timestamp
[08:09] <gambl0re> im trying to format my sd card using fdisk
[08:09] <gambl0re> im following this guide https://ragnyll.gitlab.io/2018/05/22/format-a-sd-card-to-fat-32linux.html
[08:09] <zetheroo> ducasse: ok thanks
[08:10] <gambl0re> on step 6 when i try to write the changes, im getting an err Failed to add partition 1 to system: Invalid argument
[08:10] <gambl0re> ducasse, you know how to fix that
[08:10] <jenenliu> hi guys, I can't install ubuntu on my dell xps 15
[08:10] <jenenliu> I can boot the usb live system, but it just can't detect my hard disk
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> jenenliu: nvme ssd?
[08:11] <ducasse> jenenliu: is there a setting to choose between raid and ahci modes in the bios? make sure it's set to ahci
[08:12] <jenenliu> hmm, I am not sure, check it in bios setting?
[08:12] <ducasse> gambl0re: not sure, sorry. can you try with gparted instead?
[08:13] <ducasse> jenenliu: it's a fairly common problem that is solved by selecting ahci
[08:14] <jenenliu> ducasse: ok, I'll try it, thanks
[08:24] <jenenliu> ducasse: after I change nvme ssd to ahci, my old windows system can't boot, and my computer is starting auto repair. And everything is fine when I change back. how can I detect disk when raid on is set ?
[08:25] <Disconsented> Uh what exactly did you set?
[08:25] <Disconsented> NVMe and AHCI are not interchangeable
[08:26] <jenenliu> there is a raid on and ahci in my bios setting menu
[08:27] <jenenliu> now it is set to raid on
[08:27] <jenenliu> but when I change it to ahci
[08:27] <zetheroo> ducasse: I couldn't find anything relating to the installation of OO in any of the 10 apt history logs ... what if it as installed via a downloaded deb .. would it still be in those logs?
[08:27] <jenenliu> my windows system can't boot, and xps laptop is starting auto repair
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> jenenliu: changes from IDE to AHCI might need a fresh install
[08:29] <jenenliu> that's sad ;(
[08:30] <ducasse> zetheroo: i don't think so, doesn't look like it
[08:30] <jenenliu> I want to use windows and ubuntu together
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> jenenliu: if your system has an ssd, it should be set on ahci anyway
[08:30] <ducasse> jenenliu: i think your only option would be to reinstall windows in ahci mode
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> so its not sad, its an improvement
[08:34] <zetheroo> ducasse: I see now that the user installed the entire plasma desktop :( ... could OO have been pulled in with that?
[08:38] <ducasse> zetheroo: no, it's not in the ubuntu repos
[08:40] <zetheroo> ducasse: wow ... so strange
[08:41] <ducasse> zetheroo: are there any third party repos added?
[08:41] <ducasse> zetheroo: check 'apt policy openoffice'
[08:42] <zetheroo> N: Unable to locate package openoffice
[08:43] <ducasse> 'dpkg -l | grep openoffice' to get the packagename
[08:43] <ducasse> might be openoffice.org
[08:47] <ducasse> zetheroo: you can also use synaptic to determine where it came from
[08:49] <zetheroo> I guess now that I purged all OO packages I cannot trace their origin ...
[08:49] <ducasse> no :)
[08:49] <zetheroo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K4X4tSHQ44/
[08:50] <ducasse> might not be the right name, try the dpkg command above
[08:50] <zetheroo> returns no output
[08:51] <ducasse> ok, then it's gone
[08:51] <zetheroo> :)
[08:51] <ducasse> check /etc/apt/sources.list.d to look for remnants of a repo
[08:53] <zetheroo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fPh6wkVv74/
[08:53] <zetheroo> quite a few repos in there
[08:54] <ducasse> nothing openoffice-related that i can see
[08:54] <ducasse> maybe they got it from a repo they later removed without purging the packages
[08:57] <zetheroo> maybe ...
[09:04] <DarwinElf> Intel C230 audio is greyed out.  Sox/play won't play to my other (monitor) audio.  Beep doesn't beep the PC speaker.  Of course this is all fine on BSD Unix and Slackware GNU/Linux.  Is systemd the problem?
[09:04] <DarwinElf> my monitor's audio plays fine with GUI audio programs... not with command-line like Sox/play
[09:05] <DarwinElf> my PC speaker beeps fine on boot... not in Ubuntu
[09:05] <DarwinElf> my Intel C230 had been working until an upgrade to 18.04.3 (after 18.04.n)
[09:06] <ikonia> why would systemd be the problem
[09:30] <MICROburst> ping
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> can we help you MICROburst ?
[09:33] <MICROburst> Anyone with a walk-through for DNS-SD? I would like to make a NAS visible in a subnet where clients a registered at DNS by DHCP. NAS is in VLAN1, clients are in VLAN2. When I enter the NAS data in the dynamic zone named complains saying data will be ignored
[09:33] <ikonia> MICROburst: loads online - I've just done this myself, useful experience
[09:33] <DarwinElf> well systemd often is a problem
[09:33] <ikonia> DarwinElf: how did you come to that theory in this situation
[09:34] <DarwinElf> so are you going to suggest something to try?
[09:35] <ikonia> I'd like to understand hte problem more and why you think systemd is the problem
[09:36] <DarwinElf> well, it's not my theory.  Look at how much online discussion there is about problems with systemd, or just forget I said it
[09:36] <DarwinElf> if I recall correctly, one or more of its programmers were even revoked commit access to some major project like the Linux kernel
[09:37] <MICROburst> ikonia: cool, then you don't mind to show your shiny results?
[09:37] <ikonia> MICROburst: my results ?
[09:37] <ikonia> DarwinElf: why is the card not been enabled is the device driver being loaded
[09:37] <ducasse> DarwinElf: check alsamixer, see if any sound devices are muted
[09:38] <DarwinElf> yes, the device driver is loaded.  It wouldn't be greyed out in the system settings if it wasn't loaded
[09:39] <DarwinElf> simply turning off the volume doesn't grey it out; that's not the problem I asked about
[09:40] <DarwinElf> if it wasn't loaded, it would't even be listed in settings.  If simply the volume was off, it would not be greyed out, rather than selectable but just wouldn't be outputting sound
[09:41] <DarwinElf> as far as I know the driver is snd_hda_intel... loaded, but may not be working in a recent kernel...?
[09:42] <DarwinElf> or maybe the hardware has become damaged for some reason
[09:43] <ducasse> DarwinElf: can you try a live image of 18.04.3?
[09:43] <DarwinElf> i can do that; I'll have to make that, reboot sometime in the next few hours, then come back here...
[09:43] <DarwinElf> it has to be DVD, not CD, right?
[09:43] <MICROburst> ikonia: did it not end up in config files?
[09:44] <ducasse> DarwinElf: or usb
[09:44] <ikonia> MICROburst: it did - but some are dynamic it was service discovery for prometheus
[09:44] <DarwinElf> oh yeah...
[09:44] <ikonia> and some are specific to my config
[09:46] <MICROburst> ikonia: Do you have subdomains? Did you define the DNS-SD in dynamic zones?
[09:47] <ikonia> MICROburst: no subdomain on this by thte DNS-SD config is in a dynamic zone yes
[09:48] <MICROburst> ikonia: so you have a SOHO setup with one domain only?
[09:48] <ikonia> MICROburst: I need to change it - not quite, it's a test setup
[09:49] <ikonia> MICROburst: I have a subdomain just for the SD - but the SD is referencing a single domain
[09:49] <ikonia> so the actual domain SD is referencing is not the same, but I'm not "hosting" subdomains
[09:52] <MICROburst> ikonia: I have seen the stuff with an extra domain for dns-sd, but how is it propagated? Let's say you own example.net and you put your dns-sd stuff in dns-sd.example.net - will the clients in example.net be able to see services like _smb._tcp.example.net?
[09:54] <ikonia> MICROburst: ahhhh no
[09:54] <ikonia> MICROburst: so how mine is setup, is I have the subdomain to point at the discovery service only, it's actually reading via delegation the "real" domain with the data in
[09:55] <ikonia> so I point at service.sd.domain.com - but it reads / interacts with the zonefile of domain.com - not sd.domain.com
[09:55] <ikonia> I did have it all in one domain at the start (which is a better way) but due to testing/learning - it's currently split out
[10:00] <MICROburst> ikonia: my system just froze - did you write anything?
[10:01] <ikonia> MICROburst: I did - what did you last see
[10:02] <MICROburst> ikonia: Just my last output :(
[10:02] <ikonia> MICROburst: so how mine is setup, is I have the subdomain to point at the discovery service only, it's actually reading via delegation the "real" domain with the data in
[10:02] <ikonia> so I point at service.sd.domain.com - but it reads / interacts with the zonefile of domain.com -not sd.domain.com
[10:02] <ikonia> I did have it all in one domain at the start (which is a better way) but due to testing/learning - it's currently split out
[10:05] <MICROburst> ikonia: hmmm... so when you finished your service declaration will be in domain.com? - How did you set up the reference you mentioned? Can clients from domain.com get DNS-SD information from service.sd.domain.com?
[10:06] <ikonia> MICROburst: my plan / desire is for it to be domain.com
[10:06] <ikonia> that seems on paper to be the best way to do it
[10:06] <MICROburst> understood.
[10:06] <ikonia> and I used delegation and recursion to allow the subdomain to access the root domain
[10:07] <ikonia> that is a more isolated model but comes with headaches and I'm not %100 sure I'm happy with it
[10:08] <MICROburst> ikonia: so you haven't found a documentation on a setup that matches your final conditions yet?
[10:09] <ikonia> MICROburst: found a few that show the subdomain model and a few that show the single domain model
[10:10] <ikonia> you always have to make some changes for your specific infra setup
[10:10] <ikonia> eg: is your dns server dual homed or single
[10:10] <ikonia> is it all dynamic zone or all static or a mix
[10:10] <ikonia> etc, it's never going to be %100 your setup
[10:10] <ikonia> but the guides and docs I've read have been pretty good around bind
[10:14] <MICROburst> ikonia: nice. would you mind to post some links? - I also found some but either with an extra dns-sd zone or heavily fragmented snippets
[10:14] <MICROburst> at least not helpful regarding the current error message
[10:23] <ikonia> MICROburst: let me find, I found most of them from reading hte prometheus docs and following links and a few google searches based on specific questions
[10:23] <ikonia> may still have it in my history as I only did it approx 10 days ago
[10:29] <Sc0tty-> join #svn
[10:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I am trying to use openbox on ubuntu and the windows manager does not work correctly
[10:33] <RonaldsMazitis> windows and menus leave trail
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: i confirm that, i also recently tested that on 18.04
[10:34] <RonaldsMazitis> I have ubuntu at home and it works correctly
[10:34] <RonaldsMazitis> this is work pc
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: wich ubuntu version did you tested on that leaves trail?
[10:34] <RonaldsMazitis> 18.04
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: with wich graphics?
[10:35] <RonaldsMazitis> Intel UHD graphics 610
[10:35] <RonaldsMazitis> Coffeelake 2x6 GT1
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> right, i was on intel 620
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> lemme check if i can find a bug we can affect
[10:36] <RonaldsMazitis> I have intel HD3000 at home and it works fine
[10:36] <zamba> how can i remove the title bar in gnome-flashback?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: cant find a related bug yet, do you create it?
[10:38] <RonaldsMazitis> You want me to bug report?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: if you have time for it
[10:39] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm using kubuntu as base
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: base doesnt matter, as the bug will pick openbox as package name
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: ubuntu-bug openbox will create it
[10:40] <MICROburst> ikonia: ok.
[10:41] <RonaldsMazitis> lotuspsychje so I did that and that's all?
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: that will open the bug report, and forward you to launchpad in your browser
[10:42] <RonaldsMazitis> kinda does not send me to launchpad
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: did you receive a new window to send the report?
[10:42] <RonaldsMazitis> nope
[10:43] <RonaldsMazitis> it opened calibre
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: apport installed on kubuntu?
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> calibre is an ebook reader?
[10:44] <RonaldsMazitis> yes and yes
[10:44] <RonaldsMazitis> I must be worst ubuntu developer ever, almost never had to report bugs on my home pc
[10:44] <RonaldsMazitis> but I have done it
[10:45] <RonaldsMazitis> it's just that this is work pc
[10:45] <oerheks> odd, never seen ububntu bug opens calibre
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: maybe kubuntu uses another method
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: want me to create the bug real quick, so you can just affect it?
[11:10] <Northwoods> How can i upgrade php from php7.0 to php7.2 on ubuntu
[11:12] <oerheks> Northwoods, on what ubuntu version?
[11:12] <oerheks> 18.04 LTS gives 7.2.24
[11:13] <eliyahuTBR> hey guys. silly quick question. i'm taking screenshots and they aren't saving to my pictures folder. how can I locate them?
[11:14] <RonaldsMazitis> lotuspsychje You do that, but I have other stuff to do
[11:14] <RonaldsMazitis> kinda busy
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: ok, will you affect too when created?
[11:14] <oerheks> eliyahuTBR, open the gnome-screenshot app, make a screenshot, select the folder, and it will remember
[11:14] <RonaldsMazitis> lotuspsychje that means I will have to report it as well right?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: no, just press 1 button on the bug i created
[11:15] <RonaldsMazitis> ok
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: allright, holdon sec
[11:15] <eliyahuTBR> thanks oerheks
[11:20] <lotus|NUC> RonaldsMazitis: bug #1862756
[11:21] <RonaldsMazitis> also affects
[11:21] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: yes please
[11:22] <sorin-mihai> is a live resize of a mounted filesystem on top of lvm supposed to work? something like "sudo lvresize --resizefs --size -3G vg/rootlv"?
[11:23] <RonaldsMazitis> why does it want to create account
[11:24] <RonaldsMazitis> ah nevermind
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: you need a launchpad account to affect/create bugs
[11:24] <RonaldsMazitis> I have the URL for the upstream bug:
[11:24] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[11:25] <ducasse> sorin-mihai: that will resize the lv, not the fs. you need to do that first.
[11:25] <ducasse> sorin-mihai: sorry, didn't see --resizefs
[11:26] <RonaldsMazitis> okay done I guess lotuspsychje
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: no, you added another package of openbox, you need to press 'this bug also affect me:yes'
[11:30] <RonaldsMazitis> okay now
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: yeah great, tnx
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> RonaldsMazitis: another thing you can do, is add a comment, it also happens on your 610 graphics, but not on your other system
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> that could be useful for the devs
[11:35] <yuriii> Hi! What's the best (most official) way of getting PHP >= 7.2 on xenial & trusty?
[11:35] <yuriii> ppa:ondrej/php ?
[11:36] <oerheks> upgrade to Bionic 18.04 LTS
[11:37] <TheGrumpyScot> Having trouble with rsync. Specifically, it is not setting the uid/gid of files. I'm using the daemon to connect; and passing `-arz -vvv --delete --links --perms --owner --group --times --stats --password-file=/etc/rsync.password rsync@192.168.50.23::all/home/testing` options to rsync -- any ideas as to *why* the user id and group id of files (which are correctly transfered) are not being set?
[11:40] <kasseth_> hello
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> welcome kasseth_
[11:42] <kasseth_> thank you!
[11:43] <kasseth_> I just read that Chromebook internal microphone can now work with linux apps. Does any of you know if this is also the case with Gallium OS? I would like to use my laptop for videochat meetings. Is this possible with Gallium OS today? Or maybe I'll have to install Chrome OS in order to use this chromebook for videochat.
[11:44] <oerheks> kasseth_, interesting, but this is ubuntu support
[11:44] <kasseth_> right, so I'll have to ask Gallium OS support. I'm in that chat as well, so far no answer
[11:45] <oerheks> and ubuntu on a chromebook is just a virtual thingy, not the read deal
[11:45] <oerheks> c/real\
[11:45] <kasseth_> how so?
[11:46] <oerheks> crouton, i stay away from that
[11:47] <kasseth_> why? if I may ask, just curious
[11:48] <user14> Anyone here tried to use the 20.04 dev version on a Hyper-V VM for testing?
[11:48] <oerheks> i just answered, it is not like a real install.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> user14: #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 issues please
[11:49] <oerheks> user14, some might have, join #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 until release
[11:49] <user14> Ok, thanks!
[11:50] <kasseth_> ok thanks
[11:57] <DarwinElf> alright; I booted the 18.04.3 .ISO.  My Intel 230 is usable in that.  It's not usable (is greyed-out; unselectable) with the 18.04.3 on my HDD
[11:58] <DarwinElf> then there's the problem of command-line audio like sox/play (to monitor, which works) and beep to PC speaker not working either... (well except on *BSD Unix and Slackware GNU/Linux :)  )
[12:03] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows how to install java 7 on ubuntu 18.04
[12:03] <RonaldsMazitis> I know it's outdated
[12:04] <RonaldsMazitis> but I really need it
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:17] <Ool> RonaldsMazitis: perhaps with ppa
[12:17] <Ool> this one for exemple: https://launchpad.net/~openjdk-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I understand how ppa works
[12:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I just added few
[12:17] <RonaldsMazitis> and none of them gave me java 7
[12:17] <Ool> I can see  openjdk-7 in this
[12:18] <Ool> but I not try with 18.04
[12:20] <RonaldsMazitis> E: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate
[12:22] <Ool> RonaldsMazitis: :( and with the oracle's one: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[12:23] <RonaldsMazitis> nevermind, I just will have to use windows for this
[12:23] <RonaldsMazitis> might have longer support for this
[12:23] <RonaldsMazitis> I mean not the java, but the app I need, will work on newer java in win
[12:24] <sorin-mihai> ducasse, yeah, i got that. but the question is, does it work on a live, mounted / or just on unmounted filesystems?
[12:25] <ducasse> sorin-mihai: aiui you at least _shouldn't_ shrink a mounted fs, don't know if you _can_
[12:27] <sorin-mihai> ducasse, can't i just remount it ro?
[12:28] <ducasse> i really can't answer that, but i don't think open files at all are beneficial when shrinking
[12:28] <coz_> I am on  Mint 19 and noticed, when running terminal, when I put in my password, I get '*******' printed instead of a blank. Can I get rid of this?
[12:28] <ducasse> !mint | coz_
[12:28] <coz_> thanks
[12:29] <ducasse> coz_: that's mint-specific, so ask them. ubuntu doesn't do that
[12:53] <rodrigoty23> can anybody help me i got the source code of ubuntu 16.04 but when i extracted it all i got was a locked folder does anybody know how i could access the ubuntu 16.04 source code?
[12:57] <tomreyn> rodrigoty23: ubuntu is a linux distribution, it consists of a lot of software, which source code are you looking for exactly?
[12:58] <tomreyn> and what's this source code you already got?
[12:58] <rodrigoty23> tomreyn: have a look there buddy http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/source/
[12:58] <tomreyn> so you downloaded what, used what to access the sources?
[12:59] <leftyfb> rodrigoty23: what is your end goal?
[12:59] <rodrigoty23> tomreyn: tomreyn the images then in turn extracted them and got a protected folder out of the bunch!
[13:00] <Ool> did you try to just mount the iso ?
[13:00] <speeder39_> Good morning
[13:00] <tomreyn> rodrigoty23: i think answering leftyfb's question is the best way forward.
[13:00] <rodrigoty23> Ool: i have to mount them?
[13:00] <Ool> you can try
[13:01] <Ool> it's an iso file
[13:01] <rodrigoty23> leftyfb: i dont want anyone of you to know its my bussinuss proposition!
[13:01] <leftyfb> rodrigoty23: ok, good luck
[13:01] <rodrigoty23> leftyfb: yeah i do need all that i got the time for programming
[13:02] <rodrigoty23> leftyfb: is it alot of work to recreate the unity de?
[13:02] <rodrigoty23> i know its written in c/c++ and javascript am i right?
[13:02] <ducasse> what do you mean by 'recreate'
[13:02] <ducasse> ?
[13:03] <rodrigoty23> ducasse: i mean like wite more commands to the abaondoned de!
[13:03] <rodrigoty23> write*
[13:04] <ducasse> you want to write your own unity replacement? or you want to extend what is already there?
[13:04] <rodrigoty23> i want to write another linux distribution!
[13:04] <leftyfb> rodrigoty23: sorry, but I do not think that you currently possess the basic understandings to accomplish whatever it is you are doing. I think a lot more research and education is required. This channel isn't the best place to accomplish what you are doing. You might try #ubuntu-devel, but again, I think you are not ready to accomplish your end goal.
[13:04] <rodrigoty23> but with ubinty integrated
[13:05] <rodrigoty23> unity
[13:05] <ducasse> ok, have fun
[13:05] <rodrigoty23> leftyfb: oh okay
[13:05] <rodrigoty23> is there many people oput there in that channel?
[13:05] <leftyfb> rodrigoty23: only 1 way for you to find out
[13:06] <leftyfb> rodrigoty23: good luck in your endeavors
[13:49] <FragginRight> i seem to be missing the dvb kernel headers on my 16.04 machine
[13:50] <FragginRight> how do i get them? i've been searching for a while now
[13:56] <pragmaticenigma> FragginRight: #ubuntu-kernel may have more specific help with that
[13:59] <FragginRight> pragmaticenigma: thanks :)
[14:02] <leftist> is there a way to control  rotation on 2n1 laptops?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> leftist: dconf-editor has a tweak to enable/disable rotation, is that what you search for?
[15:01] <GreyArea> When I do `pipenv --python 3.7.5` I end up with a Pipfile which requires python_version = 2.7
[15:01] <GreyArea> pipenv shell then fails to invoke /bin/activate
[15:01] <GreyArea> What can I do to fix this please?
[15:03] <GreyArea> I've tried to remove all the virtualenvs from ~/.local/share/virtualenvs
[15:04] <oerheks> i think you need to drop the .5 .. > pipenv --python 3.7  ### or do the check: python3.7 -m pipenv check
[15:07] <GreyArea> If I drop the .5, I still get a Pipfile with 2.7 in it (made sure Pipfile doesn't exist first)
[15:08] <GreyArea> the check give me an error AttributeError: module 'pip' has no attribute 'get_installed_distributions'
[15:17] <threenuc> Hi. Is there like an linux beginner questions channel on freenode?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> threenuc: wish linux distro are you using?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> *wich
[15:18] <threenuc> ubuntu
[15:18] <threenuc> i mean, ubuntu in WSL but that's the same thing
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | threenuc start here
[15:19] <threenuc> no but I wanted to ask about process substitution, which is on every distro
[15:19] <threenuc> like a general question
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> threenuc: if its a general linux question try ##linux
[15:20] <oerheks> wsl is something special indeed
[15:32] <yuradoc> Hello. I use mysql 8 on my kubuntu 19.10. I have long restart when i do
[15:33] <yuradoc> of the service
[15:33] <yuradoc> https://pastebin.com/jTkZaKEa
[15:33] <yuradoc> error.log
[15:50] <gambl0re> i have a 64gb sd card that im trying to format using gparted. the format ran successfully but the files are still there and it's only showing as 512MiB total size
[15:51] <ducasse> !crosspost | gambl0re as we've said before
[15:51] <ducasse> ^^ that goes for ##linux too
[15:51] <gambl0re> ok can you help?
[15:53] <oerheks> one should be banned for repeatedly asking fedora issues in ubuntu..
[15:55] <sol> howdy folks!  I have a weird problem that I've found a "fix" for, but it needs to be run every time the issue occurs... and the various places I've seen the fix posted, no one describes _WHY_ it happens.
[15:55] <sol> Basically I lose my ability to ALT+TAB (seems to be the ALT key in general) and I can fix it by doing "setxkbmap -option" -- but it doesn't happen every time I boot my system, it's quite random.
[15:55] <sol> I'd really love an idea of how to fix this more permanently.
[16:00] <ph88> is there a GUI to configure a firewall ?
[16:00] <oerheks> yes, gufw
[16:00] <ducasse> ph88: gufw
[16:00] <oerheks> !info gufw
[16:01] <oerheks> after install, you find it in systemsettings
[16:06] <GreyArea> Any python heads in here, could really do with some help - my environment has blown up in my face and I'm not sure why
[16:06] <GreyArea> another user on the same system seems fine but my pipenv is all screwy
[16:09] <ducasse> GreyArea: have you tried #python?
[16:11] <GreyArea> Wasn't lucky enough to get a reply but I'll give it another go.
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> GreyArea: with such a general question, it's a bit overwhelming for someone to try and help. Also, a person that might have familiarity with the problem may not be available now... but might show up in a few hours. Most important is if you ask a question in one room, it's best to stay with that channel. Asking the same question is going to lead to different approaches on how to fix your issue, and some may conflict. If the
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> conversation stays in one channel, it is less likely to fragment and more likely you will get better help with your current issue.
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> GreyArea: While you wait for someone to try and tackle... try to do some research and retrace your steps, see if you can find a particular package that is giving you issues, or a specific way to recreate the issue.
[16:19] <prinzpoupou> Hi, trying to compile wireguard on Ubuntu 18.04 and get the following error when trying to run "dpkg-reconfigure wireguard-dkms"  https://pastebin.com/QFyXNgZ1 Any Ideas?
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> prinzpoupou: Support here is for software already available in the official ubuntu software channels... please use !alis to find a more appropriate channel for compiling your code.
[16:21] <prinzpoupou> !alis
[16:22] <oerheks> prinzpoupou, why not use the wireguard ppa?  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wireguard/wireguard && sudo apt update && sudo apt install wireguard-dkms wireguard-tools
[16:24] <oerheks> https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/vpn/set-up-wireguard-vpn-on-ubuntu/  or https://dnns.no/wireguard-vpn-on-ubuntu-18.04.html for further instructions
[16:24] <LnxTen> I can not get authentication code from Google for griv2. Message shows ' signing with google drive temporarily disabled for this app'
[16:26] <LnxTen> 9:54 PM <LnxTen> I can not get authentication code from Google for grive2. Message shows ' signing with google drive temporarily disabled for this app'
[16:26] <ikonia> you said that
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | LnxTen
[16:27] <codedmart> What is the best way to debug dbus auth issues?
[16:27] <ikonia> codedmart: logs are a good way to start
[16:27] <ikonia> codedmart: also raising the debug on the app calling dbus
[16:27] <ikonia> I believe you can also raise dbus logging too - but I think it involves a kenrel param
[16:27] <LnxTen> pragmaticenigma: sorry
[16:27] <ikonia> been a while since I had to look at debugging dbus
[16:28] <oerheks> LnxTen, nothing we can do about it, griv2 is still under development?
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> LnxTen: Also, there is no package for grive in Ubunutu. If you installed it from an outside source, you will need to contact them for support
[16:28] <codedmart> ikonia: For context. I am trying to figure out why a haskell dbus package fails auth, but ones in python and go both connect fine. So I suppose raising debug on debus could help with that.
[16:29] <LnxTen> oerheks: suggest me good client for Google drive
[16:29] <ikonia> codedmart: I'd look first at the debugging options from haskell
[16:29] <ikonia> eg: what exit code is the auth funciton you're calling trapping
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> LnxTen: This channel offers support for existing install applications obtained from official Ubuntu software channels. For recommendations, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <codedmart> ikonia: Well as far as I can tell they are sending the same data over the socket.
[16:30] <codedmart> Which is why I am confused.
[16:30] <oerheks> LnxTen, there is one in 'online accounts' ??
[16:30] <LnxTen> pragmaticenigma: Yes. Using appa over 3 years
[16:30] <ikonia> codedmart: what error is being trapped by haskell ?
[16:30] <ikonia> (I assume this is something you're writing yourself in haskell)
[16:30] <codedmart> No error at all. Just gets a `REJECTED EXTERNAL` message back from dbus.
[16:30] <codedmart> It is a current package. I am just playing with it locally.
[16:31] <LnxTen> pragmaticenigma: i need repo package
[16:31] <ikonia> codedmart: that's interesting, so rejected external is normally when something is flagged as external auth
[16:31] <ikonia> codedmart: maybe look at the way dbus is being called from the working app and the broken app
[16:32] <MICROburst> ikonia: found something?
[16:33] <codedmart> The working one in go also calls `AUTH EXTERNAL 31303031\r\n`. Which is the same that the haskell package sends. At least as far as I can tell. I was hoping to see what dbus is actually getting. Not sure if this is a case of the debug options in each language coercing something I don't expect.
[16:34] <codedmart> So both making the same call from what I can tell. I will see what debug options I can set with dbus.
[16:35] <ikonia> MICROburst: nope, only just come back to my desk
[16:35] <codedmart> ikonia: Thanks
[16:36] <MICROburst> ikonia: after a long nap? ;)
[16:36] <ikonia> MICROburst: work sadly
[16:36] <ikonia> codedmart: one interesting point, the actual message dbus gets is encypted from the client, dbus only supports certain standards depending on the library / encryption the client is using
[16:37] <ikonia> codedmart: so it's possible it's sending the right message but in the wrong format / encryption
[16:37] <codedmart> Oh that is interesting.
[16:37] <codedmart> I know very little about dbus so far.
[16:37] <ikonia> codedmart: this is not your situation but look at the process flow - then research the second - 5 steps
[16:37] <ikonia> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2008-May/009830.html
[16:37] <ikonia> I suspect at a guess if you are confidence they are sending the same message it will be the message formatting
[16:42] <sol>  I have a weird problem that I've found a "fix" for, but it needs to be run every time the issue occurs... and the various places I've seen the fix posted, no one describes _WHY_ it happens.
[16:42] <sol> Basically I lose my ability to ALT+TAB (seems to be the ALT key in general) and I can fix it by doing "setxkbmap -option" -- but it doesn't happen every time I boot my system, it's quite random.
[16:45] <oerheks> i would replace the keyboard
[16:48] <ioria> sol, are you on Wayland ?
[16:49] <sol> @ioria I don't think so
[16:49] <sol> I'll google to find out how to know
[16:49] <ioria> sol, echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[16:50] <sol> $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[16:50] <sol> x11
[16:50] <ioria> sol, gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications
[16:50] <sol> @ioria fyi it's not just alt+tab, it's anything alt-related, but I'll check that
[16:51] <ioria> just run the cmd
[16:51] <sol> ['<Super>Tab', '<Alt>Tab']
[16:51] <ioria> ok, it's correctly set
[16:51] <sol> I don't have the problem at this exact second if it matters, I already ran setxkbmap
[16:52] <sol> I can't operate very well without alt tab lol
[16:52] <ioria> sol,  you log out/in  then and run again the command
[16:52] <sol> @ioria it doesn't happen every time, I might have to log out/in 50 times
[16:53] <sol> if it's different, what would it mean?
[16:53] <sol> + does that mean I could fix it by re-configuring all my keybindings in some way?
[16:53] <ioria> sol,  that you have some startup file that changes that
[16:53] <ioria> sol, https://people.gnome.org/~federico/blog/alt-tab.html
[16:54] <sol> ioria; ty, I'll bookmark this & try that command next time it happens
[16:56] <aberrant> hi all. can someone point me to what this dmesg entry means? "Decoding supported only on Scalable MCA processors."
[16:56] <aberrant> (decoding of what?)
[16:57] <aberrant> seems to be from here: https://ford.biologie.hu-berlin.de/matze/linux-m68k-atarinommu/commit/be0aec23bf4624fd55650629fe8df20483487049#c2c2bb1cdd8a7021b61e9abeeeaaea96546679a4_891_1211
[17:05] <codedmart> ikonia: Actually I get rejected with just netcat `echo -ne '\0AUTH EXTERNAL 31303031\r\n' | nc -U /tmp/dbus-4vBp0kLUee`. Not sure if that is expected.
[17:21] <BlueShark_> Hi. I am very frequently seeing "The application Google Chrome has quit unexpectedly" message. Running AMD GPU on 18.04.3 with 5.3.0-28-generic kernel. What could be the issue?
[17:22] <BlueShark_> Output of `ls /var/crash` -     _opt_google_chrome_chrome.1000.crash      _usr_share_apport_apport-gtk.1000.crash     _usr_bin_marco.1000.crash
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> BlueShark_: Google Chrome support is not available here.. If you are only experiencing the issue with that particular app, you will have to use Google's support forum for help
[17:35] <leftyfb> BlueShark_: I would start with a fresh install of chrome without your profile sync'd. No extension, plugins, etc. See if you can replicate the same issue.
[17:35] <leftyfb> BlueShark_: or start disabling extensions
[17:41] <BlueShark_> pragmaticenigma:  I'm well aware that this isn't Google Chrome support, thank you.
[17:42] <aberrant> BlueShark_: are you seeing any other crashes?
[17:42] <aberrant> BlueShark_: or is it just Chrome?
[17:42] <BlueShark_> _usr_share_apport_apport-gtk.1000.crash     _usr_bin_marco.1000.crash
[17:42] <BlueShark_> These are the other crash files.
[17:42] <aberrant> oh, sorry, you posted that.
[17:42] <aberrant> similar timestamps?
[17:43] <aberrant> that sounds like a graphics issue, frankly. You have three crash dumps each dealing with some aspect of the display.
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> BlueShark_: That's why I asked if it was only this application or if other applications are crashing. If it is just Google Chrome, that means you need support for Google Chrome
[17:44] <BlueShark_> aberrant: Yes. I suspect the same. Which is also why I posted that I am using AMD GPU.
[17:45] <aberrant> BlueShark_: I saw that. Unfortunately I can't help further since, while I run a 3400G, I run it headless.
[17:45] <BlueShark_> pragmaticenigma: Ah, I see. I thought that question was already answered by the output of  ls /var/crash
[17:45] <BlueShark_> aberrant: The timestamps do look similar, yes: http://ix.io/2bqr
[17:45] <aberrant> anything in dmesg -T around that timeframe?
[17:46] <BlueShark_> There's a lot of stuff in there. Anything in particular that I can grep for?
[17:46] <woenx> Hi everyone. Has anyone had some luck accessing a RemoteApp hosted in a windows server from Ubuntu? I am trying xfreerdp, but it seems quite unstable...
[17:46] <aberrant> I'd just page around Feb 11 around 22:49 or so and see if any kernel messages got logged
[17:47]  * aberrant is running into the ntp drift file bug again. BRB.
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> BlueShark_: Apport is a crash handler so it's likely a cascade effect. Marco is your window manager? Possibly that the slimmed down window manager doesn't support a feature that Chrome is looking for? have you tried to replicate in Gnome-Desktop or XFFCE?
[17:49] <BlueShark_> aberrant: http://ix.io/2bqt - I am not sure if there's anything
[17:49] <BlueShark_> pragmaticenigma: I am using the default settings for Ubuntu MATE.
[17:50] <aberrant> that's 4 mins before the crash, right?
[17:50] <aberrant> nothing closer to 22:49?
[17:50] <BlueShark_> aberrant: Nope
[17:50] <aberrant> it's likely just google chrome then.
[17:51] <aberrant> as someone else suggested, try starting it up without plugins/extensions and see if you can reproduce the crash
[17:53] <pragmaticenigma> BlueShark_: From the google forums, it appears there are issues with the build potentially: https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/10635049?hl=en
[17:54] <BlueShark_> Ah, I see.
[17:55] <BlueShark_> pragmaticenigma: Would switching to Chromium solve the issue?
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> It appears to have solved it for some people in that thread... I'd start with a reinstall of Google Chrome first... slowly add any extensions back one-by-one and try to make to do the things that would result in crashing after each step
[17:57] <pragmaticenigma> You might also want to make sure the google chrome profile folders are removed before reinstalling (or at least backed up somewhere else)
[18:00] <BlueShark_> Thanks, I will do that!
[18:01] <ioria> chrome has a no gpu mode:   --disable-gpu  (or something) , maybe try also that BlueShark_
[18:07] <BlueShark_> Will try that as well, thank you!
[18:14] <nerdykid> Hi!  I need to have dkms copy a firmware file along with the compiled kernel module automatically.  My /usr/src/tn40xx-003/dkms.conf: https://pastebin.com/1VvuWYNf    I need dkms to copy /usr/src/tn40xx-003/x3310fw_0_3_4_0_9445.hdr to the same directory as the compiled .ko module.  Anyone know how to do this?
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> nerdykid: Possibly help in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:17] <nerdykid> pragmaticenigma:  I'll try there, thanks!
[18:27] <woenx> Does anybody had any luck connecting to a remoteapp  (windows rdp) from Linux?
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: Many people use a few different applications to connect to windows remote desktop. Is there a specific issue that you are having? Please give as much detail you can, includeing Ubuntu version and flavor, what applications you are using or have tried, any error messages that you are seeing in Ubuntu or in the log files. What stepd you have taken to verify that the windows remote desktop is working for other computers
[18:35] <woenx> pragmaticenigma: Yes, I am trying to connect to a published app (windows write, as a test) hosted in a Windows 8.1 enterprise server. It uses the RPD protocol. I can connect to that server using remmina or xfreerdp just fine, but not to the remoteapp
[18:35] <woenx> I am using Ubuntu 18.04LTS with Unity
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: what is a "remote app"
[18:36] <woenx> Ok. it is quite intuitive. When you connect to a remote desktop, you see the whole desktop,a nd you can control it. You even see the desktop background, the taskbar, etc.
[18:36] <woenx> If you just connect to a remote app, in the client machine you just see the windows of that app
[18:36] <woenx> for instance, I can run notepad.exe, hosted in a server, and in Ubuntu you will just see a window for notepad.exe
[18:37] <woenx> as if it were native
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: So it's equivalent would be x-forwarding for linux?
[18:37] <woenx> Exactly!
[18:37] <woenx> in windows it's called RemoteApp
[18:37] <woenx> it's comprised in the RDP protocol
[18:38] <woenx> in theory, freerdp should support it, but I found it to be very buggy, or directly non-working
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: to the best of my knowledge, I have not seen or heard of any component/program written that enables a linux/unix machine to leverage that feature
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> most of the applications assume it's a remote desktop experience
[18:38] <woenx> there is also winflector, which I have used successfully, but it does not use the RDP protocol, but their own (but works quite well, although it fails from time to time)
[18:39] <woenx> Right now I was trying to find a RDP client for linux which supported remoteapps
[18:40] <woenx> I think the closes one is freerdp, but, as I mentioned, it seems to be quite buggy
[18:41] <devster31> any smart way from command line to test whether an SD card has reached end of life?
[18:41] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: my web search only shows full remote desktop viewers as alternatives to FreeRDP. I'm guessing it's not in high enough demand creating interest in getting it implemented at this time.
[18:42] <woenx> I suppose
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> woenx: Most, if not almost all, of things RDP are reverse engineered
[18:42] <woenx> but it would be quite practical to use windows only apps in Linus
[18:42] <woenx> linux
[18:42] <woenx> like, microsoft office
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> devster31: When the card becomes unreliable (failed writes) it typically is a sign the disk is dead
[18:42] <Darkchaos> I used Kdrc, I think, the KDE RDP Viewer
[18:43] <devster31> pragmaticenigma I know, but I found a spare one and I don't remember whether I stopped using it because it was broken
[18:43] <devster31> I wanted to test it beforehand
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> devster31: If there is nothing written on the drive, and you don't mind the potential of reducing it's life... you could try zero'ing out the drive with dd, and see if it fails
[18:47] <devster31> nope, alternative is to throw it away directly
[18:47] <devster31> thanks
[19:14] <woenx> pragmaticenigma: anyway, if you ever want to share apps from a windows machine to a clinux client, Winflector is the easiest way
[19:14] <woenx> Not Open source, but free for personal use. http://www.winflector.com/
[19:34] <CarlFK> what group do I need to be in to talk to ttyACM0??
[19:37] <sarnold> CarlFK: dialout
[19:42] <CarlFK> sarnold: thanks
[19:50] <Guifle> hello, I cant get voltage info with any command, tried everyting here, https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/few-command-helps-to-get-linux-hardware-details/
[19:50] <Guifle> also nothing online helped
[19:50] <Guifle> everything*
[19:52] <Ben64> Guifle: might not be possible with your hardware
[19:53] <Guifle> Ben64, ah, is it hw-dependent?
[19:53] <Ben64> yes. which voltage did you want to see though?
[19:53] <Guifle> RAM voltage
[19:53] <Ben64> oh that might be easier
[19:54] <jwhitmore> Installed Ubuntu 18.4.3 yesterday on a laptop and tried to copy from a USB drive into the laptop with the command 'cp -r' that used to copy a directory recursively but now it creates a link to the directory instead of copying. The man page still suggests that '-r' is recursive. I've been searching for something about this change to the operation of 'cp' command but can't find anything
[19:54] <Ben64> Guifle: sudo dmidecode -t 17
[19:55] <Guifle> Ben64, doesnt list voltage
[19:55] <Ben64> then i guess you can't get it :(
[19:55] <Guifle> on linux channel someone said it was forbidden info. thought it was a joke first
[19:56] <Ben64> nah that's silly
[19:56] <Guifle> agree
[19:56] <Ben64> just must be your hardware
[19:56] <Ben64> i have a ryzen system here and i have no problem getting the ram voltage
[19:57] <cxl> Hello, how can I tell if my private key is password protected? I have ssh-agent running so I dont know if `ssh-keygen -y -f ~/.ssh/name_of_key` works without password because of the agent or because there is no password.
[19:59] <sarnold> you could ask the agent to forget it
[19:59] <sarnold> then re-add it
[20:00] <ioria> Guifle, you should get the decode-dimms with decode-dimms
[20:01] <ioria> Guifle, sorry, i mean you should get the Operable voltages with decode-dimms
[20:11] <Guifle> ioria, I am just busy with that, eeprom or at24 module is required. I found and installed 'ftdi-eeprom', but still this module is not shown in the module list
[20:12] <ioria> Guifle, sudo modprobe eeprom
[20:13] <Guifle> I ran that, but what am I going to do now?
[20:13] <kxsl> how do you setup the wifi on the raspberry pi? i thought it I would use network-manager but it says it's not installed?
[20:13] <ioria> Guifle, decode-dimms
[20:14] <Guifle> ioria, now I get all the ram infos including voltage
[20:14] <Guifle> thank you very much!
[20:14] <ioria> good job Guifle
[20:14] <Guifle> thanks to you
[20:14] <ioria> ok
[20:15] <kxsl> join #raspberrypi
[20:16] <Guifle> I see an operable voltage of 1.5V for my ram module. does it mean that a new 1.35V ram will suit if I replace it?
[20:18] <kxsl> check your mobo manual, you might need to configure the lower voltage in the firmware
[20:23] <ioria> Guifle, if DDR3L is supported yes
[20:27] <jwhitmore> Can anybody confirm that 'cp -r' has been changed from being recursive to creating a link? And how do you now copy recursive, man page says '-r'?
[20:34] <ducasse> jwhitmore: which release?
[20:35] <t90> Hi, I've the feeling that the ubuntu vagrant image (ubuntu/bionic64) is damaged. I get this error on 3 machines over 2 continents: The box failed to unpackage properly. Please verify that the box file you're trying to add is not corrupted and that enough disk space ..
[20:36] <jwhitmore> ducasse, Ubuntu 18.04.3
[20:37] <t90> Link to full error: https://pastebin.com/raw/n7gsnPNa
[20:37] <ducasse> jwhitmore: it makes a copy here, not a link
[20:37] <Guifle> iora, I dont find DDR3L anywhere, I see only DDR3, but I guess the general specs match
[20:37] <t90> Anyone an idea where to file a ticket?
[20:38] <jwhitmore> ducasse, Cheers, I've tried multiple times. I'll move along
[20:38] <jwhitmore> I can't accept a universe where 'cp -r' isn't recursive ;)
[20:40] <EriC^> jwhitmore: maybe you mistyped cp -r for cp -s or -l?
[20:41] <EriC^> or some alias is doing stuff behind the scenes?
[20:41] <EriC^> try "type cp" in  terminal
[20:45] <kxsl> where can i put my wifi config for netplan on 19.10? there's only the cloud-init file and it says not to put it there.
[20:47] <t90> I see that there is already a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1862700
[20:48] <ioria> kxsl, this should work : https://graspingtech.com/ubuntu-server-18.04-static-ip/
[20:49] <kxsl> ok, thanks. didn't realized the cloud init part needs to be disabled
[20:50] <leftyfb> kxsl: you'll want to remove cloud-init and create your own netplan config file
[20:51] <ph88> how can i do this?  https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/125102/196971  i can't install bsdtar
[20:52] <jwhitmore> EriC^, 'type cp' => 'cp is hashed (/bin/cp) The cp -r command does work for a directory in my clean install like the Music folder. So 'cp -r Music test' does create a directory. However for a USB drive attached the command 'cp -r /media/john/drive/Music test' creates a link
[20:53] <EriC^> jwhitmore: what fs is the usb?
[20:54] <jwhitmore> EriC^, encrypted ext4
[20:55] <EriC^> odd
[20:56] <jwhitmore> EriC^, agreed
[20:57] <ph88> brb
[20:58] <ph88> back
[21:00] <jwhitmore> EriC^, I should correct that fs type. I'm not sure it's ext4. It is encrypted so comes in under LUKS, I always just assume it's ext4 but that's probably not strictly true. It's a linux filesystem type. Maybe LUKS is it's own file system type. I'm not sure
[21:01] <jwhitmore> EriC^, Sorry checked under the hood it is ext4 at the base level then LUKS
[21:02] <jwhitmore> Anyhow it don't work
[21:04] <untakenstupidnic> I have installed kubuntu 18.04 and now there is no Windows entry in the grub and our attempts to make one have failed so far. what should I do?
[21:05] <EriC^> jwhitmore: i see
[21:05] <EriC^> jwhitmore: what happens if you try to rsync?
[21:06] <EriC^> jwhitmore: rsync -av /path/to/Music test
[21:06] <tonyt> untakenstupidnic: you try running update-grub from the terminal?
[21:06] <Armageddon> jwhitmore, if that doesn't work, make susre you have os-probe installed if it's not, and try ^ again
[21:06] <untakenstupidnic> tonyt:yes
[21:07] <Armageddon> s/jwhitmore/untakenstupidnic /
[21:07] <EriC^> untakenstupidnic: can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' it might be a uefi/legacy mismatch
[21:10] <untakenstupidnic> EriC^: https://termbin.com/np6e
[21:11] <EriC^> untakenstupidnic: seems an efi partition is there, what does 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' give? directorys or no such file?
[21:12] <EriC^> im guessing ubuntu is installed in uefi mode, and windows in legacy since the partition table is msdos and it doesnt use efi + gpt, so you'll have to convert one of the 2 to the other mode, converting ubuntu to legacy would be easier since you dont need to convert the partition table to gpt too
[21:12] <untakenstupidnic> directories
[21:13] <EriC^> untakenstupidnic: ubuntu is in uefi mode then, windows in legacy
[21:13] <EriC^> it's easy enough to convert though, just remove the /boot/efi dir from fstab as it's not needed, then install the grub-pc package
[21:14] <untakenstupidnic> rm /boot/efi;apt install /boot/efi
[21:14] <untakenstupidnic> ?
[21:14] <EriC^> reboot using legacy mode (you might need to set the legacy mode priority in the bios) then ls /sys/firmware/efi should be empty upon booting, update-grub should pick up the legacy installed windows
[21:14] <EriC^> no
[21:14] <EriC^> untakenstupidnic: first type 'sudo apt-get install grub-pc'
[21:15] <untakenstupidnic> its installed
[21:16] <untakenstupidnic> then rm?
[21:16] <EriC^> untakenstupidnic: what'd "dpkg -l | grep grub" look like right now
[21:16] <EriC^> no rm'ing will be happening sir
[21:18] <untakenstupidnic> https://termbin.com/4bnx
[21:18] <EriC^> looks good
[21:18] <EriC^> ok, reboot and in the bios, switch to legacy mode
[21:18] <EriC^> you want to boot and have 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' return no dir found
[21:28] <kinghat> does anyone here use uktools for kernel management?
[21:29] <oerheks> kinghat, i never heard of it, some ukuu clone?
[21:29] <ZeroBeholder> Heyo, I want to run the hibernate command when my server has been "idle" for three hours-- I think network activity for SSH, SFTP, rsync, & Canonical updates are activity worth monitoring and using as the metric to see if it has been active. If not active for over three hours, power down...
[21:29] <kinghat> its just a CLI for kernel management, not sure how long its been around but looks like a fork. not sure what it means by asking if i want a generic kernel here: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/4e52f340/
[21:30] <kinghat> oerheks: https://github.com/usbkey9/uktools
[21:30] <ZeroBeholder> I am open to suggestions on how to accomplish it because I have no idea where to start.
[21:31] <ZeroBeholder> Hibernation and WoL magic packet are working well. Now to just put it down for the 18 hours a day it usually does nothing.
[21:32] <ZeroBeholder> I made a server fault question for it, I can't be the only person that might want a machine to do such stuff. https://serverfault.com/questions/1002695/how-do-i-hibernate-an-ubuntu-server-when-network-is-not-in-use-for-three-hours
[21:33] <oerheks> kinghat, if you type n, you get low latency kernel?
[21:34] <leftyfb> ZeroBeholder: I would write a script/service that monitors for the things you're looking for and suspend it as needed
[21:34] <kinghat> oerheks: ya thats it. what is that?
[21:35] <oerheks> just a kernel more suited for multimedia, recording/streaming and such.. nowadays lowlatency/RT kernel is not that much different from generic
[21:36] <ZeroBeholder> leftyfb: I definitely want to do that. I will be googling furiously for network tools that will allow me to see maybe which port activity happened or I don't know yet.
[21:36] <leftyfb> ZeroBeholder: fail2ban might be good also
[21:37] <leftyfb> fail2ban can monitor logs to access or events and $do_something if found
[21:37] <kinghat> thanks for the schooling, oerheks 👍
[21:38] <ZeroBeholder> leftyfb: Two birds with one stone. Sees SSH/Port:22 records the time in a var/log file.
[21:38] <ZeroBeholder> Then check the log file every 15 minutes.
[21:38] <ZeroBeholder> I'm already ahead of where I started...
[21:39] <leftyfb> ZeroBeholder: could also check apt logs for update activity
[21:40] <ZeroBeholder> That is also a good suggestion.
[21:40] <ZeroBeholder> I'm going to start with those two things. Thank you.
[21:46] <VeryBewitching> Hey folks.  I recently changed out my motherboard to a GIGABYTE Z390 Aorus and was able to boot into Ubuntu again without issue; however, my DNS resolution is a touch weird.  I can't reach Netflix, Yahoo! and Prime Video, but not Google, Gmail and a handful of other sites I've tried.
[21:47] <Darkchaos> Any other packages involved in linking other than binutils and gcc? (including libc, gcc-base, etc)
[21:47] <sarnold> hey Darkchaos, still fighting this thing? :(
[21:47] <Darkchaos> sarnold: Yep, occasionally. I've now managed to build with Debian's binutils and gcc, but it still happens
[21:47] <sarnold> VeryBewitching: resolvectl status  may help you understand what's necessary to look at
[21:48] <untakenstupidnic> EriC^: it's still there
[21:48] <VeryBewitching> sarnold: Don't have that binary available unfortunately, and can't install it because I can't resolve Ubuntu's servers.
[21:50] <sarnold> VeryBewitching: hm; what release are you on?
[21:50] <VeryBewitching> Kubuntu 18.04, packages current as of Friday
[21:51] <VeryBewitching> sarnold: ^
[21:51] <VeryBewitching> If you happen to know which .deb supplies that binary I could USB it over to this machine
[21:53] <leftyfb> sarnold: that's not a binary in ubuntu
[21:54] <VeryBewitching> sarnold: Ah, I stopped nscd and that allowed me to resolve Google at least, maybe the cache is old or broken
[21:54] <leftyfb> oh, maybe only bionic. VeryBewitching try systemd-resolve
[21:55] <VeryBewitching> Ya, nscd was causing the issue
[21:55] <sarnold> oh wow, I haven't seen nscd in use in ages
[21:56] <leftyfb> VeryBewitching: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[21:56] <leftyfb> nscd doesn't get installed by default
[21:56] <VeryBewitching> leftyfb: Kubuntu 18.04, using backports and all packages new as of Friday
[21:56] <VeryBewitching> And yes, I know it doesn't
[21:57] <VeryBewitching> I think I installed it for a project
[21:58] <rodicio> Hi. Anyone speak Spanish?
[21:59] <jeremy31> rodicio: in #ubuntu-es
[21:59] <leftyfb> !es | rodicio
[22:00] <rodicio> Thaks jeremy31 ubottu leftyfb . Just is no much people there.
[22:02] <rodicio> My Ryzen 3500u have 2 treads on 100%, and the others about 3%.
[22:03] <rodicio> And when the work of the processor is a little big, the laptop is going to resset.
[22:04] <aberrant> anyone with an AMD EPYC having issues with ntp and drift?
[22:07] <Darkchaos> sarnold: I just realized I was doing stuff wrong all the time. I just realized it's not _all_ files being affected but only this one
[22:08] <Darkchaos> I guess you also don't know what makes the linker emit a version table?
[22:08] <sarnold> Darkchaos: no :( I never really needed to know the toolchains in depth
[22:08] <Darkchaos> sarnold: Still a great find, because now I can look into that file actually
[22:08] <sarnold> rodicio: you probably need to look for BIOS updates if your processor overheats causes shutdowns -- most laptops will simply throttle the processors instead
[22:17] <untakenstupidnic> how can i force ubuntu to boot in legacy mode
[22:20] <aberrant> Frequency       : 850.336 ppm slow
[22:20] <aberrant> damn
[22:20] <michagogo> I just came across this host with this in /etc/shadow: `pass1:O@O@O@L3E+group:18300:0:99999:7::0:`
[22:20] <michagogo> That's... not normal, is it?
[22:21] <jeremy31> untakenstupidnic: you would have to set BIOS to CSM/Legacy only
[22:22] <sarnold> michagogo: I can't recall ever seeing anything like that, but perhaps one of your PAM modules does that?
[22:23] <michagogo> It's not mine, it's a kind of challenge
[22:23] <michagogo> I suspect, though, that that's some kind of clue/lead
[22:24] <michagogo> (Especially considering /etc/shadow is even world-readable...)
[22:25] <alle37> Hey, im using pop os. I bought an dac/amp is pulseeffects best to set up the equializer for it?
[22:26] <jeremy31> alle37: we don't offer support here for pop os
[22:29] <sarnold> michagogo: ooooo fun fun fun
[22:34] <michagogo> sarnold: Yeah, first time I've done one of these. Started with bible verses that led to a kibana instance with a few dozen sysmon logs. From there got the machine the logs were from and a user/password, which got me (via smb) an encrypted file, and a big pcap in a passworded rar marked Challenge2. The logs also mentioned a registry key, and remote registry is open, so I got the key from there, along with a taunting note that the decryptor is
[22:34] <michagogo> elsewhere
[22:35] <michagogo> And also this Ubuntu server, which served up the creds for an unprivileged user via smb
[22:35] <michagogo> There I got decrypt.rar.rar, again with a password...
[22:35] <sarnold> it's so cool that people like putting these things together
[22:36] <sarnold> it's a real art to make things challenging enough to be interesting but still actually solvable somehow
[22:36] <michagogo> Yeah
[22:37] <sarnold> michagogo: so, my guess -- poke around in /etc/pam.d/ and see what PAM modules are in use
[22:37] <michagogo> Hmmmm
[22:37] <sarnold> you may find a 2fa module or something similar
[22:38] <michagogo> There are several files there that are recently modified
[22:38] <sarnold> it's also possible that it's a funny challenge-response or an ecc or dhe cryptosystem kind of authentication method
[22:40] <michagogo> It's just common-* that's been modified this year (i.e. since the server was set up), and not seeing anything in those that jumps out at me :/
[22:45] <sarnold> michagogo: here's my pam.d files on my focal machine -- I don't recall making changes, but probably nothing drastic :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BM5wmWNFQS/
[22:46] <michagogo> Thanks. yeah, looks like nothing there
[22:49] <sarnold> bugger. I liked that idea.
[22:49] <sarnold> michagogo: alright next guess -- maybe the unix password module is going to hash input passwords and compare against what's in the file, and only check eg the resulting hash matches the first 0 and nothing else?
[22:51] <michagogo> I doubt that because it's not in the format
[22:52] <michagogo> (with $id$salt$hash)
[22:52] <michagogo> Probably just straight up invalid
[22:52] <michagogo> I feel like I'm not actually supposed to try to log in with that shadow file
[22:53] <michagogo> OH
[22:53] <Nitrigaur> How can I downgrade the kernel version and stay on that version (i.e. 5.2 instead of 5.3) I'm using systemd_boot
[22:53] <michagogo> The line was pass1:O@O@O@L3E+group:18300:0:99999:7::0:
[22:54] <michagogo> `tail /etc/group` -> HELLO->URYYB❌1004:
[22:55] <michagogo> It's rot13
[22:55] <michagogo> YES
[22:55] <michagogo> B@B@B@Y3R is the password to decrypt.rar.rar :D
[22:56] <sarnold> hahahaahaha
[22:56] <Nitrigaur> michagogo, never communicate passwords on an open channel
[22:56] <michagogo> (but now decrypt.rar has a different password, hence pass1 I guess)
[22:56] <michagogo> Nitrigaur: lol, it's okay
[23:02] <michagogo> sarnold: hm, do you think it's cheating that I just ran `grep -rs pass2 /` and found it in my crontab?
[23:02] <sarnold> michagogo: not at all :)
[23:03] <sarnold> michagogo: there's a chance that's the only way you'd ever have found it :)
[23:21] <WoC> is it safe to purge *wayland* or is there anything significant that may depend on it?
[23:25] <sarnold> WoC: you probably have to keep some of them; here's what my system reports https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c9whbydmS6/