[00:13] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: ok, https://github.com/juju/juju-restore/pull/1 is ready for another look (I guess after standup)
[00:13] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: will do soon \o/
[00:13] <babbageclunk> thanks
[01:02] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: we can land that packaging PR on libjuju
[01:02] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: yep
[01:44] <thumper> PR ready for the introduction of the model summary watcher to the cache: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11208
[01:51] <thumper> and a much simpler one to update a dependency: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11209
[01:57]  * anastasiamac lloking at 11209
[01:58] <timClicks> thumper: did you want to catch up for a few minutes now that those PRs have landed?
[02:00] <timClicks> wallyworld, kelvinliu, babbageclunk: found the other issue that a user has had w/ zone contraints https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/using-vmware-vsphere-with-juju/1099/3?u=timclicks
[02:00] <timClicks> perhaps that's the same one
[02:02] <thumper> timClicks: sure, I have 15 minutes now
[02:02] <kelvinliu> yeah, the same one
[02:59] <thumper> jam: with you shortly, just trying to finish up a code review
[03:03] <jam> ok
[04:02] <babbageclunk> does anyone know of other repos of ours that use go modules?
[04:02] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: charm.v4 i think
[04:02] <wallyworld> some of the upstream juju ones
[04:03] <wallyworld> charm.v6 i mean
[04:03] <wallyworld> charmrepo.v4
[04:04] <babbageclunk> ok, thanks wallyworld
[04:05] <babbageclunk> weirdly, our build script for charm.v6 still installs go 1.10
[04:05] <babbageclunk> I don't get how that works
[04:06] <wallyworld> we'd still use dependencies.tsv in that case i'd expect?
[04:09] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh yeah - dependencies.tsv's still there
[04:10] <babbageclunk> aha, the charmrepo one is more like what I want
[04:10] <wallyworld> good
[04:27] <_thumper_> wallyworld, tlm: PR 11203 introduced confict markers into the acceptance tests python file
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[04:28] <thumper> it is what is causing many stop the line failures...
[04:29] <tlm> taking a look
[04:32] <tlm> i'll put up a pr thumper, sorry about that
[04:33] <thumper> tlm: thanks
[04:37] <tlm> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11210
[04:47] <hpidcock> tlm: lgtm
[04:47] <hpidcock> same lgtm that let it through in the first place sorry
[04:50] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: \o/
[05:02] <vultaire> New MR against the interface:elasticsearch layer, need a review if possible: https://github.com/juju-solutions/interface-elasticsearch/pull/14
[09:04] <nammn_de> manadart: around for another review round on: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11186 I incorporated your feedback. On those things where I wasn't 100% sure I wrote some comments how and why I did it that way
[09:06] <manadart> nammn_de: Will look in a minute.
[09:09] <nammn_de> stickupkid: around for a quick talk about the test I mentioned yesterday?
[09:25] <stickupkid> nammn_de, yeah give us 5
[09:25] <nammn_de> stickupkid: sure take your time
[09:46] <stickupkid> nammn_de, daily
[10:08] <stickupkid> manadart, just grabbing a drink, but once I've done that want to HO about openstacky
[10:09] <manadart> stickupkid: Yep, got to pick-up/drop-off my daughter just before 12, but ping me.
[10:09] <stickupkid> what time is it there now?
[10:09] <stickupkid> 11?
[10:10] <stickupkid> manadart, ^
[10:10] <manadart> stickupkid: Yeah, 10 past.
[10:21] <stickupkid> manadart, ping
[10:29] <nammn_de> stickupkid: up for a smaller cr? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11212 only updates tests, nothing customer facing
[12:05] <nammn_de> manadart: was planning to look into update-space. Was planning to spec that out again. Time for a HO later?
[12:07] <manadart> nammn_de: Maybe, looking at Prodstack issue right now.
[12:07] <nammn_de> manadart: sure, just gimme a ping else I start specing myself and you can take a look at the network cli doc and give a comment
[13:17] <hml> stickupkid: it looks like what is missing… the juju-<model-name> profile.
[13:18] <stickupkid> hml, but why?
[13:18] <hml> stickupkid: the 64 thousand dollar question.  :-D
[13:18] <stickupkid> hml, do we set it?
[13:18] <rick_h> morning
[13:18] <hml> stickupkid: yes, we should.   it should go on every container
[13:19] <hml>  stickupkid i’ll play with it some today
[13:20] <hml> stickupkid: wait… brain fart - they only go on machines that are containers…. not containers.
[13:20] <hml> lack of coffee brain
[13:20] <hml> looks to me like the charm profile is being applied.
[13:25] <stickupkid> hml, that's very strange, we do remove it in certain places
[13:27] <hml> stickupkid: that profile was never applied to #/lxd/# machines, only #.  I’d have to look at the profiles to maybe remember why
[13:27] <hml> it’s from the being of lxd in juju i think
[13:31] <hml> stickupkid: it allows us to create a container in a container
[13:31] <hml> the juju-default etc profiles
[13:31] <hml> not sure we’re ready for a container in a container … 0/lxd/0/lxd/0?
[13:31] <stickupkid> yeah... errr
[14:09] <achilleasa> hml: 11206 has been approved
[14:09] <hml> stickupkid: we would have seen errors if the container couldn’t be deployed.
[14:10] <hml> achilleasa:  ty
[14:24] <hml> stickupkid: ping me when you’re back.  found something interesting
[14:29] <rick_h> manadart:  if you get a sec can you update your "changes requested" on https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11195 please?
[14:30] <rick_h> the code there in question is gone now anyway
[14:32] <hml> stickupkid: reproduced locally perhaps
[14:45] <manadart> rick_h: Approved it.
[14:50] <rick_h> manadart:  ty
[14:52] <achilleasa> hml: I got my framework patches to play nicely with the new state tools :-)
[14:54] <hml> achilleasa:  sweet!
[15:11] <hml> anyone noticed that subordinate unit numbering maybe not increment by 1, I got units of 1,8,14,15. ; after a deploy and add-unit 3 times.
[15:59] <hml> stickupkid: reproducing i’m at 50% fail rate.  tracking down the root cause
[16:40] <IOstars> Hey there everyone, does anyone here know when nova-compute charm will pull release with the current fixes in milestone 20.02?
[16:44] <rick_h> thedac:  ^ ?
[16:44] <rick_h> IOstars:  I think the charm release is immenent but defer to them on their changes getting out the door
[16:45] <thedac> Yes, charm release is immanent but waiting on QA
[16:45] <IOstars> Getcha, just curious. Have a fresh install that got hit by the critical bug being fixed there.
[16:45] <IOstars> Grreat thanks :)
[16:45] <rick_h> IOstars:  :( glad there's a fix. Yea coming soon
[16:49] <hml> stickupkid: https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/TKdw4mpwkT/ line 2 ; care to take bets on the cache?  :-D
[17:06] <stickupkid> sigh
[17:06] <stickupkid> hml, quick ho?
[17:07] <hml> stickupkid: i think you’re pr from jan will fix.
[17:07] <hml> stickupkid: sure
[19:23] <thumper> morning team
[19:23] <rick_h> morning thumper
[19:23] <hml> morning thumper
[19:51] <vultaire> hello - hoping to wake up a MR which has been stuck without review for some time.  interface:elasticsearch, adding "version" field to share MongoDB version.  MR: https://github.com/juju-solutions/interface-elasticsearch/pull/13
[19:51] <vultaire> If anyone could take a look, would be quite appreciated.  Thanks.
[19:53] <vultaire> erm
[19:54] <vultaire> I totally botched my statement there ;)
[19:54] <vultaire> "version" field shares the elasticsearch version ;)
[19:54] <vultaire> (I have a different MR re: mongodb as well; mixed up in my brain a bit.)
[21:46] <timClicks> what's the simplest way to install juju_engine_report? We make oblique reference to it in places, but I can't find a place where we publicise it at all.
[21:48] <wallyworld> it's automatically installed by jujuitself when it creates a machine
[21:49] <wallyworld> all those diagnostic scripts are put in place, of which engine report is one
[21:50] <wallyworld> /etc/profile.d/juju-introspection.sh
[22:03] <timClicks> wallyworld: could you please check the note here for accuracy? https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/what-are-your-tips-for-running-juju-in-production/2573/10?u=timclicks
[22:03] <wallyworld> will do, just finishing something first
[22:04] <timClicks> np
[22:04] <wallyworld> also works on k8s, but you need to source the script when you exec in, there's a discourse post on it
[22:06] <timClicks> and some release notes ;) https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/new-features-and-changes-in-juju-2-7/2268
[22:14] <wallyworld> timClicks: were you going to mention the other functions that are available?
[22:14] <timClicks> wallyworld: eventually.. simon's post prompted me to think about how discoverable juju_engine_report is
[22:16] <wallyworld> i think we could build the summary into the engine report as a stadard thing
[22:17]  * timClicks nods
[23:14] <timClicks> How do you train your staff to use Juju? Some suggested tasks for people learning Juju https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/-/2639
[23:14] <timClicks> ^ would love anyone's input on this thread!
[23:18] <anastasiamac> timClicks: love i
[23:18] <anastasiamac> timClicks: for advance, i'd recommen adding model migration and CMR stuff too
[23:18] <timClicks> :D
[23:18] <timClicks> great idea
[23:20] <timClicks> anastasiamac: do you want to add a comment there yourself?
[23:20] <anastasiamac> and mayb at each laevel, how do u troubleshoot problem with each task? like usage of logs, debug-log command etc
[23:20] <Sp3nc3r> any free mailer
[23:20] <Sp3nc3r> or smtp
[23:20] <anastasiamac> timClicks: feels like stepping on ur toes.... but may :)
[23:21] <timClicks> no no, comments in the thread are welcome - otherwise it's always me talking to myself
[23:22] <anastasiamac> and that is fun to watch too :D
[23:22] <timClicks> Sp3nc3r: are you asking if you can deploy a mail server like postfix with juju?
[23:45] <timClicks> evhan: sorry I couldn't be more helpful in discourse
[23:48] <evhan> timClicks: Not at all! That background is already helpful.
[23:49] <timClicks> evhan: there's actually some evidence that the majority of deployed charms are "private charms" because many people use the public charms as their base, then make tweaks