[00:06] <frib> I think an ubuntu update may be causing me to get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.4
[00:06] <frib> But not sure how to fix it.. anyone know? thanks
[00:07] <frib> (it's being requested by qmake for cross compiling with 32-bit minGW
[00:07] <sarnold> what error are you getting?
[00:08] <WoC> sarnold ok, ty, much more than i thought... ;o
[00:08] <sarnold> WoC: same here :(
[00:38] <Darkchaos> sarnold: I think I got something, still stuff to figure out, though :D
[00:38] <Darkchaos> The .o file doesn't have the table either, but the LD Flag is "-Wl,--exclude-libs,ALL"
[00:39] <Darkchaos> It shouldn't remove version symbols but only function symbols, I guess, but you never know
[00:42] <WoC> Darkchaos, sounds like the affected libs got updated mid build, maybe make clean and rebuild ?
[00:42] <Darkchaos> WoC: "Unfortunately" it's rebuildable. TLDR is: openjdk-lts when built on Ubuntu (NOT Debian) misses the symver section in lib/libjawt.so
[00:45] <WoC> good thing that java is against my religion, thou must not venture there...
[00:46] <Darkchaos> Well, my religion brought me that far. Instead of giving up, I tend to dig deeper and deeper into the problem, even if it's really really really frustrating
[00:47] <WoC> java to c++ converter ;)
[00:48] <CarlFK> how can I see saved wifi passwords for an ssid I am not near?
[00:48] <sarnold> Darkchaos: reminds me a bit of The Simpsons, "Son, we are about the break the surly bonds of gravity, and punch the face of God."
[00:49] <WoC> heh
[00:49] <sarnold> CarlFK: check /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[00:52] <CarlFK> sarnold: bingo.  thanks.
[00:52] <nCoV_fren> Hi frens!
[00:54] <sarnold> CarlFK: yay
[01:34] <eelstrebor> why is bind9-host needed to install dnsutils? not only that, the package manager shows bind9-host as deprecated
[01:36] <sarnold> eelstrebor: Depends: bind9-host | host,  ...
[01:36] <sarnold> eelstrebor: any package that supplies the virtual package depdency on 'host' can satisfy that dep
[01:39] <eelstrebor> host isn't a package
[01:43] <sarnold> in some releases, the knot-host package can also provide the host virtual package
[01:48] <yeoj> i'm seeing the same problem as https://cursos.alura.com.br/forum/topico-ubuntu-bionic-18-04-cloudimg-vmdk-truncated-tar-archive-102757 for the past couple versions of bionic64, but don't seem to have problems with any other images, nor ubuntu/trusty64
[01:51] <sarnold> hmm, https://vagrantcloud.com/ubuntu/boxes/bionic64/versions/20200210.0.0/providers/
[01:51] <sarnold> that gives a 404
[01:52] <sarnold> ah the full url actually works, that's just a redirect farm to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/current/bionic-server-cloudimg-amd64-vagrant.box
[02:31] <pjs> any ideas on this weird package install issue: http://dpaste.com/338YFR6
[02:31] <pjs> Says it can't overwrite a file but the file doesn't exist
[02:36] <sarnold> pjs: where'd you find a python3.8-distutils package? what's apt-cache policy python3.8-distutils   report?
[02:37] <pjs> sarnold: http://dpaste.com/0MWTZAA
[02:37] <pjs> that's the output
[02:39] <sarnold> pjs: you'll probably need to ask deadsnakes what the intention for that package is
[02:39] <sarnold> pjs: is the goal to replace all the python packages that ubuntu supplies?
[02:39] <sarnold> pjs: or is this just a bug in deadsnakes' packaging?
[02:40] <pjs> sarnold: no clue. I just wanted to install python3.8 lol. It used to work just fine. Not sure when it stopped
[02:40] <Bashing-om> !info python3.8 bionic
[02:44] <sarnold> your system may be too broken to install the ppa-purge package via apt, but it's worth trying to get it installed somehow, I think it has the best chance of being an easy way to back out of this situation
[02:45] <pjs> sarnold: Yea, I'd love to get it as we're literally upgrading our app to py3.8 tonight so tomorrow my laptop won't have a supported env hahha
[02:46] <sarnold> pjs: try wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ppa-purge/0.2.8+bzr63/+build/8424921/+files/ppa-purge_0.2.8+bzr63_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i ./ppa-purge_0.2.8+bzr63_all.deb    -- see if this works
[02:46] <pjs> sure one sec
[02:47] <pjs> sarnold: installed fine
[02:49] <sarnold> pjs: nice; try ppa-purge ppa:deadsnakes
[02:54] <pjs> sarnold: running (sorry got a call)
[02:54] <sarnold> pjs: does it look like it's going in happy directions?
[02:55] <pjs> sarnold: http://dpaste.com/1C53JHD
[02:55] <pjs> The mongo stuff has been there.. I just need to remove the sources (or update the key).. I don't use it so I keep ignoring it
[02:56] <pjs> but does specifically mention deadsnakes (removed mongo, re-ran the command, just gives the same output as before minus the mongo sig issues)
[02:56] <sarnold> I wish this thing would just let you copy-paste the URL from the apt-get output. :/
[02:57] <sarnold> pjs: alright, how about ppa-purge -o deadsnakes
[02:58] <pjs> sarnold: it's telling me things will be downgraded, mostly python3.8 stuff
[02:59] <sarnold> pjs: sweet that sounds like success
[02:59] <pjs> though some 3.7 in there too.. want the output?
[02:59] <sarnold> yeah
[02:59] <sarnold> that's probably good
[02:59] <pjs> sarnold: http://dpaste.com/0S82BE0
[03:00] <sarnold> pjs: looks good to me
[03:00] <pjs> ok, so continue right?
[03:00] <sarnold> yes
[03:01] <pjs> wheee
[03:01] <sarnold> once this thing is done, double-check your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list files and make sure they look good -- then a fresh apt update && apt upgrade
[03:01] <pjs> sarnold: PPA purged successfully
[03:01] <pjs> ok
[03:01] <sarnold> great
[03:03] <pjs> sarnold: ok, all upgraded correctly
[03:03] <sarnold> pjs: cool cool :)
[03:03] <pjs> it appears distuitls is present in 3.8 now
[03:04] <pjs> hrmm, though the issue remains.. weird
[03:05] <sarnold> hmm, what are you seeing now?
[03:05] <pjs> well, now it's a Python thing (which is what started the whole chase down the rabbit hole)
[03:06] <sarnold> that's both good news, in that the system python is put back :) and bad news, in that I know next to nothing about virtualenv or pip or similar
[03:07] <pjs> sarnold: http://dpaste.com/0P5S382
[03:07] <pjs> progress for sure lol
[03:08] <sarnold> pjs: for example, I can't tell if that's success or failure :)
[03:08] <pjs> sarnold: hah, yea nor I
[03:09] <pjs> I install python3.8-venv but I guess I need both
[03:09] <pjs> though it says it's already installed
[03:09] <sarnold> this is where I get very very confused
[03:10] <sarnold> buuut it may be poissible to have a venv of some sort installed in your home direcotry that lets 'import venv' work, but still be missing the python3-venv module
[03:11] <sarnold> I don't know venvs. at all. but I suspect this may be the sort of thing that's fixed by: mv ~/env ~/env.deletemesomeday
[03:11] <sarnold> followed by apt install python3-venv
[03:17] <pjs> sarnold: no because I print the file and it's showing the system path
[03:19]  * gaughen waves at sarnold
[03:19] <sarnold> heya gaughen :)
[03:19] <sarnold> pjs: dang
[03:20] <pjs> lol yea this is weird.. I never understood why Linux distros rip out core parts of software (ie, python) to separate packages. venv is a core module
[03:21] <gaughen> pjs, are you the person running into trouble with the vagrant box?
[03:21] <gaughen> if not sarnold who should I pester here?
[03:21] <gaughen> I mean offer support to ;-)
[03:23] <sarnold> gaughen: that was yeoj -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1862869
[03:23] <gaughen> ah cool, thank you
[03:23] <gaughen> and thanks for the bug
[03:23] <sarnold> gaughen: pjs has an issue somewhere in python venvland that I don't understand
[03:24] <pjs> gaughen: no sir :)
[03:24] <gaughen> :-)
[03:27] <gaughen> yeoj, I added a comment in the bug offering a suggestion to get you moving again.
[03:31] <sarnold> nice, thanks gaughen :)
[03:32] <gaughen> sarnold, trying to help. I don't know if it will work for what yeoj's trying to do but hopefully will get them moving this evening.
[03:34] <pjs> sarnold: sweet.. now no python version works with venv :)
[03:34] <sarnold> pjs: nice, consistency, I like it.
[03:35] <pjs> hahah
[03:35] <pjs> I need a break.. bbiaf
[03:56] <k_sze> Is there a way to set the color-depth when using GNOME desktop?
[04:45] <dinkoarun> Hi, since the last week, a random command has been run by postgres user that his hogging a lot of CPU. It is not showing in the pg_stat_activity. I suspect it is some sort of malware, but I am unable to diagnose it. Can someone help? I am using it on Ubuntu 16.04 server. Postgres 9.5
[04:45] <dinkoarun> It is running even when postgres service is stopped.
[04:51] <robertparkerx> how do I restart from command line? shutdown -r isn't working
[04:51] <robertparkerx> Failed to parse time specification: –r
[04:55] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: 'systemctl poweroff' .
[04:56] <dinkoarun> robertparkerx try shutdown -r now
[05:03] <robertparkerx> shutdown -r now worked
[05:03] <robertparkerx> ty
[05:11] <jaziz> Does anyone have any advice for an interview with Canonical?
[05:14] <pjs> sarnold: so turns out 'apt-get --reinstall install python3.8-distutils' did the trick and resolved the issues with all python versions.. So weird but, it's working :)
[05:14] <pjs> thanks again for the help earlier
[05:30] <robertparkerx> I run 'screen -s irssi' as irssi user. How can I makke a systemcmd to run it at startup ?
[05:33] <robertparkerx> I've tried to setup a crontab -e
[05:33] <robertparkerx> @reboot screen -s irssi
[05:33] <robertparkerx> but it doesn't seem to work
[05:48] <rud0lf> try full path to screen maybe
[05:54] <robertparkerx> so '/usr/bin/screen -s irssi'
[05:55] <rud0lf> seems so
[05:57] <robertparkerx> rud0lf can I do this https://termbin.com/m19g
[05:57] <rud0lf> i don't know systemd
[06:00] <robertparkerx> didn't workk
[06:06] <rustytaco> Hello all! I'm running 19.10 on an hp 15ba-078dx laptop. The touchpad is annoyingly sensitive to brushing it with my hand while typing and such. SUggestions?
[06:06] <rustytaco> using xfce desktop, but would like an option that fixes it systemwide as there are other users too
[06:09] <Aktive> hello
[06:10] <Aktive> I cant use my monitor sound which goes from graphics card to monitor with display port
[06:10] <Aktive> there comes no sound
[06:10] <Aktive> I tried selecting the device, putting mouse volume up
[06:12] <yeoj> gaughen: thank you!  i just used hashicorp/bionic64 for the moment.  i tried pinning to ubuntu images back in 201909 with same issue.  it's quite possible that i'm doing something wrong, too.  thanks for following up!
[06:12] <de-facto> How can I get debug output from nautilus? Trying to debug a WebDAV problem where it just helpfully tells me: Ops, something went wrong: Unknown Error : HTTP Multistatus
[06:12] <de-facto> well Oops indeed...
[06:13] <de-facto> what is something and why is the error unknown?
[06:13] <de-facto> obviously it knows more about it since it detected it went wrong
[06:19] <de-facto> I tried to debug WebDAV in Nautilus like this, yet its output is not really helpful
[06:19] <de-facto>   pkill gvfs; pkill nautilus ; LC_ALL=C GVFS_DEBUG=1 $(find /usr/lib* -name gvfsd 2>/dev/null) --replace 2>&1
[06:20] <de-facto> dav: send_reply(0x55d033fb5ae0), failed=1 (HTTP Error: Multi-Status)
[06:20] <de-facto> lol
[06:32] <de-facto> ok failed request got "dav:  [/prefix1] webdav: 1, collection 0 [res: 0]" in the logs, while successful  request "[/prefix2] webdav: 1, collection 1 [res: 1]"  (note difference in collection and res
[07:07] <ztane> strange powerconsumption issues with ubuntu 1910 and lenovo t480 laptop
[07:08] <ztane> cpu power scaling for example set to lowest and the bottom cover is fiery hot
[07:08] <ztane> started coinciding at the same time with upgrade to 1910,
[07:08] <ztane> from 1804
[07:09] <ztane> now I need to run windblows to find out if it happens there too
[07:09] <ztane> before I RMA :d
[07:31] <de-facto> how do I tell nautilus to use totem for opening mp4 videos? It claims its not installed for webdav, yet locally it opens such files with it
[07:31] <de-facto> its straight a lie...
[07:32] <de-facto> Do you want to search for an application? clicking yes just reopens same dialogue in a loop
[07:32] <de-facto> what a buggy mess
[07:33] <de-facto> is there an option to completely wipe all state from nautilus?
[07:33] <Forza> Hello . Is tgt the only iscsi target supported on Ubuntu?
[07:36] <de-facto> where does nautilus store its state?
[07:37] <rustytaco> de-facto: probably in ~/.config/ somewhere
[07:38] <rustytaco> It appears ~/.config/nautilus/ but i personally have nothing there as i use thunar
[07:39] <de-facto> i also cant see any relevant settings in gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.nautilus
[07:46] <de-facto> sometimes nautilus really makes me want to throw my computer out of the window
[07:47] <rustytaco> yea most DEs leave me feeling that way. xfce stays out my way enough that i can make myself use X ;)
[07:49] <de-facto> probably it even is my fault, since i did that debugging for webdav. yet now it remembers a state from somewhere which makes it behave weird
[07:50] <de-facto> but why would gnome hide every possible option from its users? this is what i really hate about it
[07:50] <gambl0re> anyone can help me with gparted? im trying to format my sd card but nothing im doing is working
[07:51] <rustytaco> gambl0re: Define not working? DOes it see your device (/dev/mmcblk0 for example)
[07:52] <gambl0re> rustytaco: yea i can see it under /dev/mmcblk1p1
[07:52] <gambl0re> i tried formatting the sd card but the old files are still there
[07:52] <de-facto> thats the first partition on it
[07:53] <oerheks> unlock the sdcard with the flip
[07:54] <rustytaco> Does write protect actually work on that? Mine never has on my dell. windows or linux Lol
[07:54] <gambl0re> could anyone help me out?
[07:54] <rustytaco> gambl0re: did you make sure it was unmounted? If so instead of using gparted, why not mkfs the partition?
[07:54] <gambl0re> yes its unmounted
[07:55] <gambl0re> whats mkfs?
[07:55] <rustytaco> gambl0re: What file system do you want it to be? Linux (ext4 or btrfs) or windows (vfat)?
[07:55] <de-facto> gambl0re, just make really sure you are using the correct device (formating wipes everything on the target)
[07:55] <gambl0re> fat 32
[07:56] <gambl0re> its a micro sd card im using for my audio player
[07:56] <rustytaco> Ya mkfs.vfat is what you want. And agreed - make sure you pick the right partition because it'll get wiped
[07:56] <gambl0re> i understand that. 100% im on the right device
[07:56] <rustytaco> Yea you want fat32 for most of those sudo mkfs.vfat /path/to/dev
[07:56] <gambl0re> fdisk -l shows the sd card as /dev/mmcpblk1p1
[07:57] <gambl0re> so do i do mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcpblk1p1 ?
[07:57] <rustytaco> Yea
[07:57] <gambl0re> ok i ran the command. it didnt return any errors
[07:57] <rustytaco> It'll put a fresh fat filesystem of the appropriate type (usually fat32)
[07:58] <rustytaco> echo $?
[07:58] <gambl0re> what?
[07:58] <gambl0re> is that command supposed to wipe the card? cause im still seeing my old music
[07:58] <rustytaco> Type echo $? - if you see 0 that means succcess. Works with any command
[07:58] <rustytaco> mkfs.vfat would wiped it yea
[07:58] <gambl0re> returns 0
[07:59] <rustytaco> Where are you seeing your old music?
[07:59] <gambl0re> on my sd card
[08:00] <gambl0re> im just rebooting my computer making sure i didnt wipe out the os
[08:00] <gambl0re> yea my computer reboots fine
[08:01] <gambl0re> and i still see my old music
[08:02] <rustytaco> Are you sure its mounted? (mountpoint /path/to/mount; echo $?)
[08:03] <ducasse> gambl0re: are there any relevant messages at the end of dmesg?
[08:04] <gambl0re> before i ran mkfs command the card was unmounted.
[08:04] <gambl0re> or was it supposed to be mounted?
[08:05] <rustytaco> Should be unmounted before mkfs'ing it
[08:06] <rustytaco> mkfs should return failure (non-zero) if it couldnt create a fs there. Me thinks its not mounted where you think it is
[08:06] <rustytaco> Failing that, something gone wonky :O
[08:07] <oerheks> if a sdcard does not format, check for errors/filesystem.. but they have told you that before in #linux or #fedora too, no?
[08:09] <gambl0re> dmesg output of last 20 lines or so
[08:09] <gambl0re> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BSGJp-AkH9LSQuhsBhPxIwSfU39R8w5841LdTDt_rOk/edit?usp=sharing
[08:10] <gambl0re> [   57.748908] FAT-fs (mmcblk1p1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[08:10] <gambl0re> [  103.576271] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[2359]: Failed to dissect: Input/output error
[08:10] <gambl0re> y
[08:10] <oerheks> so
[08:10] <oerheks>  check filesystem, gambl0re
[08:10] <oerheks> you know how
[08:11] <gambl0re> check filesystem like what
[08:15] <rustytaco> shouldnt be having fs errors on a freshly made fs -- but normally you'd run fsck /dev/mmcblk1p1
[08:18] <gambl0re> whats vFat signature?
[08:18] <gambl0re> should i remove it?
[08:23] <ztane> yea, my power problem seems to be linux only
[08:28] <ducasse> gambl0re: what's the output of 'uname -a'
[08:31] <gambl0re> ok wtf....i manually deleted all the files in my sd card. i ejected and inserted back and the files came back
[08:33] <oerheks> :-D
[08:35] <rustytaco> Error 519. EUSER - User Error, Replace User.?
[09:01] <dub1t0> Hello
[09:01] <dub1t0> is anybody able to see what i write please?
[09:02] <EriC^> yes
[09:02] <EriC^> dub1t0
[09:04] <ducasse> dub1t0: please don't use this channel for testing your irc client
[09:05] <dub1t0> @Eric thank you
[09:06] <dub1t0> @ducasse it's not the case, i wanted to be part of this community but i wasn't sure if my client works :)
[09:07] <ducasse> dub1t0: it's just that if too many do it it quickly gets really annoying :)
[09:08] <ducasse> dub1t0: if you have a question you are welcome to ask
[09:27] <dub1t0> @ducasse of course
[09:27] <dub1t0> @ducasse i have a question regarding the operating system choice
[09:27] <dub1t0> i am working in IT for more that 10 years
[09:27] <dub1t0> using several OS
[09:28] <dub1t0> such as Windows 98/XP/VISTA/7/10
[09:28] <dub1t0> also macos from Snow Leopard
[09:28] <dub1t0> and linux from Ubuntu 9
[09:28] <dub1t0> as well as debian etc
[09:28] <ducasse> !enter
[09:29] <dub1t0> today as my current job envolves my in web development i would like to choose an os that is as much as possible close to my needs
[09:30] <dub1t0> so basically i need a LAMP or LEMP flexible environment (switgch between php versions) and GIT
[09:30] <dub1t0> and the possible usage of photoshop (even under a VM) would be a bonus
[09:31] <dub1t0> and yeah a good text editor (my prefered one is visual studio code)
[09:34] <dub1t0> if someone may help me please by highlighting the choice that may answer to my need
[09:43] <ducasse> why not go with plain ubuntu desktop? it's a very common platform for web dev
[09:44] <dub1t0> @ducasse what means "plain ubuntu desktop" please? is it the default version from ubuntu.com?
[09:45] <ducasse> yes
[09:45] <dub1t0> and is delivered with GNOME 3 right?.
[09:45] <ducasse> go with 18.04 lts unless you have a reason not to. gnome, yes.
[09:46] <dub1t0> ok thank you :)
[09:46] <dub1t0> i'll try it asap
[09:46] <ducasse> yw
[09:46] <dub1t0> see you later guyw
[09:46] <dub1t0> see you later guys
[10:07] <JustASlacker> hello all
[10:07] <JustASlacker> is there a way to include debian testing packages in ubuntu ?
[10:08] <tarzeau> JustASlacker: sure
[10:09] <tarzeau> JustASlacker: with your own reprepro or using a PPA
[10:09] <tarzeau> https://launchpad.net/~gagarin/+archive/ubuntu/bionic here's my PPA for 18.04
[10:09] <JustASlacker> but can I simply add debian testing in my sources
[10:10] <tarzeau> no
[10:10] <tarzeau> well you can, but you'll destroy your system
[10:10] <ducasse> !frankenbuntu | JustASlacker
[10:10] <tarzeau> it's called frankendebian in #debian
[10:10] <ducasse> !frankenubuntu | JustASlacker
[10:13] <JustASlacker> right
[10:13] <JustASlacker> so, I guess I want ubuntu20 backports
[10:13] <tarzeau> JustASlacker: my offer expires in 30'
[11:59] <oerheks> soon .. 18.04.4 .. hold your breath ..
[12:53] <bitblit> I'm having a weird DHCP issue. When I unplug/plug the physical cable, I get one address, but "dhclient -r eth0; dhclient eth0;" give me a different address. dhclient gives the currently configured dhcp static lease, while physically plugging gives me a previously used static lease.
[12:59] <bitblit> also, the previously used static lease was for a wireless NIC that isn't even plugged in anymore. switched to wired.. so it's not being assigned by MAC.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:39] <trakinas> can anyone give some help with mariadb? I can't add comments larger than 60 characters, although their documentation says it is possible to add comments up to 1024.
[13:39] <trakinas> My version is 10.4.
[13:41] <ducasse> trakinas: which release is this?
[13:42] <frad> i need to transfer 160 MiB of data (several pdf files) from a linux computer to a windows based one, without a usb stick. What online solutions could I use?
[13:42] <frad> no admin privileges on the windows machine
[13:43] <leftyfb> frad: the pc's aren't on the same network?
[13:43] <frad> no leftyfb
[13:43] <ducasse> frad: you can upload to transfer.sh and grab them from there
[13:43] <leftyfb> frad: maybe dropbox?
[13:45] <leftyfb> frad: try #ubuntu-offtopic. Your question isn't really a support question but instead asking for opinions of 3rd party online services.
[13:51] <apurkrt> hi - I am about to update Ubuntu 16.06 installation - is "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" still the right combination?
[13:53] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: There is no Ubuntu 16.06... did you mean 16.04... and when you say update, can you be more specific what your goal is?
[13:53] <apurkrt> oops sorry, embarrassed  - 16.04
[13:54] <apurkrt> goal is to update to the most recent versions available for 16.04
[13:54] <apurkrt> (I do not want release upgrade)
[13:54] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" should set you right
[13:55] <oerheks> apt update && apt dist-upgrade to get all latest packages
[13:55] <oerheks> it does not upgrade to 18.04
[13:55] <apurkrt> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[13:55] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks: Did "apt" exist in 16.04?
[13:55] <oerheks> good spot, no.
[13:55] <apurkrt> oerheks: thank you as well
[13:55] <apurkrt> ah ok
[13:55] <oerheks> apt-get it is
[13:56] <pragmaticenigma> :-)
[13:56] <apurkrt> I do remember doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" in the past
[13:56] <oerheks> dist-upgrade/full-upgrade, there is a slight difference..
[13:56] <apurkrt> what is the difference between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade", while at it?
[13:56] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: I've never really been able to tell a difference
[13:56] <apurkrt> me neither :)
[13:57] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: dist-upgrade is "upgrade" but has additional dependency checking and handling to pull in the newest versions of the package that is available.
[13:58] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: I think that means if version x.1 was available at the Ubuntu relase time, but the repos now have y.1, it will pull in the newer version, where plain upgrade would give you x.999 (where .999 is the most recent patch release)
[13:59] <apurkrt> thanks, good explanation
[13:59]  * apurkrt looking at "man apt-get"
[13:59] <frad> thx ducasse and leftyfb
[14:00] <apurkrt> pragmaticenigma: thank you
[14:00] <leftyfb> oerheks: yes, apt does exist in 16.04
[14:01] <oerheks> leftyfb, oh, i remember it was -get
[14:01] <oerheks> nevermind
[14:01] <leftyfb> oerheks: both are available
[14:01] <leftyfb> oerheks: apt is also available in 14.04
[14:19] <trakinas> ducasse: 10.4.11-MariaDB-1:10.4.11+maria~bionic
[14:20] <trakinas> Sorry for the late reply, I was in a meeting.
[14:21] <apurkrt> another basic question: will "apt-get upgrade" upgrade (automatically) also the kernel?
[14:21] <apurkrt> or is some manual intervention needed
[14:22] <apurkrt> (naturally, you have to reboot the machine, but asking about new /boot/vmlinuz-... and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:23] <ducasse> !info mariadb-server bionic
[14:24] <ducasse> trakinas: where did you get that - from a third party repo?
[14:24] <trakinas> ducasse: I have to double check. Wait a minute.
[14:25] <ducasse> trakinas: 'apt policy mariadb-server'
[14:26] <trakinas> http://mirror.timeweb.ru/mariadb/repo/10.4/ubuntu
[14:27] <trakinas> Probably from MariaDB download site.
[14:28] <trakinas> Although today ther are showing DigitalOcean mirror.
[14:29] <trakinas> Gonna uninstall this 10.4 and use the 10.1.
[14:32] <trakinas> ducasse: installing 10.1 and keeping 10.4 too.
[15:00] <trakinas> Now I can't get access to my database, nor see my databases when using skip_grant... I'm switching back to 10.4 and see if the data is still there. Then, start digging why official repo from MariaDB is not accepting comments above 60 chars. =/
[15:07] <apurkrt> just to share what I've found: "apt-get upgrade" won't upgrade kernel - "apt-get dist-upgrade" will
[15:08] <oerheks> indeed, and tools/services that require restart
[15:10] <apurkrt> so it is advised to reboot the machine after a dist-upgrade?
[15:10] <leftyfb> trakinas: your issue is with packages from mariadb, not ubuntu. Please seek support from mariadb.
[15:10] <oerheks> there is a trick to show if reboot is needed, kernels alway want a reboot
[15:11] <apurkrt> yeah of course to get new kernel you have to reboot
[15:11] <oerheks> if the file /var/run/reboot-required exist, reboot
[15:11] <apurkrt> (to use)
[15:11] <apurkrt> thank you!
[15:11] <oerheks> yw
[15:12] <trakinas> leftyfb: I already asked them, but got no answer. So I tried here. ;)
[15:12] <leftyfb> trakinas: we cannot support packages from 3rd party sources
[15:12] <oerheks> TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:12] <oerheks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.4/
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> apurkrt: personally, I reboot every couple weeks, always after kernel updates and microcode updates
[15:18] <trakinas> leftyfb: no problem. It could be a configuration or smth obvious I was missing.
[15:57] <friendofafriend> Sometimes my Ubuntu system gets an IPv6 address when resolving archive.canonical.com and hangs.  What's the best way to completely disable IPv6 so this doesn't keep happening?
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> !ipv6 | friendofafriend
[16:12] <friendofafriend> Excellent, thanks ubottu!  I might even disable it twice.
[16:16] <Ool> if your ISP give you a real IPV6, it's working fine :)
[16:21] <friendofafriend> Ool: Nah, some IPv6 things work, some don't, so the problem is IPv6 (again).
[16:25] <ses1984> i'm trying to figure it out why when i try to install nginx in 18.04, it's pulling in some modules like `libnginx-mod-http-image-filter` that aren't listed as a dep here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/nginx
[16:26] <azx> is sudo apt install <pkgname> the same thing as sudo apt-get install <pkgname>
[16:27] <ses1984> apt is a version of apt-get that's maybe a little nicer to use interactively. it should do basically teh same thing
[16:27] <studentttu> hello, can anyone help me sync some music from cd to my iphone on ubuntu?
[16:27] <ses1984> re my nginx problem: nginx depends on nginx-core, nginx-core depends on the modules
[16:27] <azx> Ok, Thanks!
[16:28] <Ool> friendofafriend: do you have inet6 scope global or just fe80:… scope local?
[16:28] <ses1984> i think "apt is a version of apt-get" might be strictly wrong. they are both ways of interacting with the package system, they provide almost the same functionality
[16:29] <friendofafriend> Ool: Both.
[16:39] <Bashing-om> azx: See: https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ ; http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/ .
[16:53] <Elliria> Hey there, does anyone know how long it takes for changes in Debian to trickle down to Ubuntu?
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> Elliria: Is there a specific package that you're looking for? Have you searched launchpad to see if there is a ticket to integrate it? What kind of update is it?
[16:55] <Elliria> Yep. Debian just updated AutoKey to the latest version after a lengthy version freeze in the Ubuntu releases and I'm curious how long it will be before we see that new version by default in the Ubuntu repositories.
[16:55] <oerheks> sometimes minutes, sometimes weeks, i bet mostly in between
[16:56] <oerheks> if you have a reason for such update, file a !SRU ?
[16:56] <oerheks> !sru
[16:57] <Elliria> Thanks. I've noted it and will look into it.
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> Elliria: If it is a full version update, then it likely won't be seen until the next full release of Ubuntu. It's rare for major version updates to be pushed out mid support cycle
[17:01] <Elliria> The current version in all recent Ubuntu releases is AutoKey 0.90.4 and the new version in Debian is 0.95.9. Would that be a full version update?
[17:01] <Elliria> Yeah, from a quick look at that SRU page, it probably won't qualify since it does work even though it is somewhat buggy.
[17:01] <Elliria> Task Coach, however, would qualify for an SRU and I think I'll pursue that.
[17:03] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autokey
[17:03] <oerheks> autokey source package in Sid Version 0.95.9-1 uploaded on 2020-02-10 -- ah oke
[17:18] <alkorda> Good morning! Does anyone else have trouble connecting to Freenode using Polari? I'm getting a small key icon next to the server name that says "Freenode requires a password"
[17:18] <alkorda> Ubuntu 19.10, fresh install.
[17:19] <oerheks> hmm no polari in this list howto do SASL https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
[17:20] <pragmaticenigma> !info polari
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> alkorda: If you're having difficulties... you could reach out on their IRC channel: #polari
[17:21] <alkorda> That's a good idea, sorry about that. I'll reach out over there.
[17:22] <alkorda> On another note, does anyone know of a program I can use to insert formatted text? For example, using a key combination like Ctrl + Shift + X to insert a formatted email signature.
[17:22] <Elliria> AutoKey does that.
[17:23] <Elliria> You can define hotkeys or typed phrases to trigger each one.
[17:23] <alkorda> Thank you! I'm installing it now.
[17:23] <Elliria> I also just discovered today that you can set any of them to show up in the AutoKey context menu in the tray and you can run them from there with your mouse.
[17:24] <Elliria> It's a blast to play with.
[17:24] <alkorda> Also, sadly no one is in #polari but me. I'm not sure that that's a valid support room
[17:24] <Elliria> It also has an active Google Groups forum.
[17:25] <Elliria> This might be of some use, alkorda: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Polari
[17:26] <Elliria> It looks like they use a different IRC server.
[17:26] <ioria> alkorda, are you sure is it a polari problem ? have you tried to connect with  xchat ? maybe is about your ISP
[17:27] <joemac> I'm looking for some assistance with a synaptics touchpad
[17:27] <alkorda> Thank you, Elliria. Do you know if the text with Autokey can be formatted? I need to bold some words. Being able to do that is a dealbreaker for using this
[17:27] <Elliria> As long as there's a key combination that will make it happen in the program you're pasting into, you can do it.
[17:28] <alkorda> ioria, I'm not sure. I'm using the freenode webchat right now. Would I be able to connect here if it was an ISP issue?
[17:29] <ioria> alkorda, webchat uses other means, iirc
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> joemac: best to ask your specific question into the channel, so volunteers can think along with you
[17:29] <joemac> I'm using Xubuntu 18.04.4 and had to upgrade to the HWE kernel in order to fix a sleep/resume issue.  Afterwards, I noticed that I lost tap to click on the touchpad
[17:30] <alkorda> Elliria, it doesn't look like Autokey supports directly inserting rich text
[17:30] <Elliria> It doesn't, but if you can press <ctrl>+b to bold the text, then AutoKey can do that.
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> joemac: check touchpad settings in dconf-editor first perhaps?
[17:31] <joemac> ok
[17:31] <joemac> will do
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> joemac: if you cant find them there, might be acpi or kernel related perhaps
[17:34] <joemac> I can't seem to find anything related to synaptics in the dconf editor.  I might be missing it - where should I look?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> joemac: /org/gnome/desktop/periphals/touchpad/tap-to-click is what you need?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> joemac: sudo apt install dconf-tools first
[17:35] <Elliria> This is for Debian, joemac, but is if of any use? https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-enable-the-tap-to-click-feature-in-Debian-8-Xfce
[17:35] <joemac> That's probably it - it was toggled off
[17:36] <Bashing-om> joemac: Maybe update the driver ? what shows ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-input-libinput ' ?
[17:38] <joemac> no packages found
[17:38] <joemac> toggled on now in dconf, but does not work
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> joemac: can you pastebin your dmesg please?
[17:39] <joemac> not entirely sure how to do that...
[17:40] <joemac> what is pastebin
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !paste | joemac
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> joemac: and type dmesg in your favorite terminal
[17:42] <joemac> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zPQRcwDrnH/
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> joemac: thank you, meanwhile please pastebin the same for what Bashing-om asked please?
[17:44] <joemac> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gQ2sBd2ZQ3/
[17:46] <Bashing-om> joemac: No driver ? what type touchpad is this : ' egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps|elan' /proc/bus/input/devices ' ?
[17:46] <joemac> Bashing-om - I will check
[17:48] <J_Darnley> Does anyone know exactly which commands of apt-cache I can use the --installed option with?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> joemac: psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: LEN205d PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to linux-input@vger.kernel.org.
[17:49] <joemac> Bashing-om: It says SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad  (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SWjtmVwbPN/)
[17:50] <joemac> lotuspsychje: I don't know what i2c-hid and hid-rmi are, so I'm not sure if they are used
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> joemac: check bug #1794876
[17:50] <Bashing-om> joemac: Mo driver is loaded for Synaptics TouchPad. Let's match the driver to the kernel - what shows ' uname -r '?
[17:51] <joemac> Bashing-om: 5.3.0-28-generic
[17:52] <joemac> Oddly, it did work out of the box prior to switching to HWE
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> joemac: probably kernel version related
[17:53] <joemac> lotuspsychje: could very well be
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> joemac: read the bug, and perhaps try a few options they reccomend, or boot into a previous kernel to test
[17:54] <joemac> since it did work in 4.15.0-34-generic.
[17:54] <joemac> ok
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> joemac: once you reproduced, you can affect yourself to the bug
[17:55] <joemac> I'm seeing reports of it affecting the 5.0.0-25-generic kernel
[17:55] <littlekimmy> hi
[17:55] <littlekimmy> is there a ipsec implementation package for ubuntu?
[17:57] <joemac> lotupsychje: I'm seeing reports in bug 1794876 of  un-blacklisting the i2c_i801 module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:58] <stealthy> just ran 18.04 from a usb drive and worked OK, installed it to ssd, reboot, getting login screen that keeps putting me back to login
[17:58] <stealthy> known bug?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> joemac: you can try that sure
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: wich graphics card are you on?
[17:59] <stealthy> 1060 3gb
[17:59] <joemac> lotuspsychje: That's something new for me.  Is there something more involved than just editing the blacklist.conf file?
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: try to get in your system with !nomodeset first, then install a latest nvidia driver
[18:00] <Bashing-om> joemac: lotuspsychje Me thinks 5.3.0-28-generic == xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-18.04 .
[18:00] <stealthy> any pointers on how to do that? sounda french to me
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om joemac sure, can try that first
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | stealthy
[18:01] <stealthy> ty, i'll give it a try
[18:01] <joemac> Bashing-om: so I should try installing that particular package?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: also make sure at login, you login into xorg and not wayland
[18:03] <stealthy> i have an option for 'ubuntu' amd 'ubuntu on wayland', neither worked
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: ok tnx
[18:03] <ses1984> why does nginx-core pacakge in bionic have have hard dependencies on a bunch of modules, like `libnginx-mod-http-image-filter`
[18:04] <joemac> I installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-18.04, but still no tap-to-click
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> joemac: did you try to reboot after?
[18:05] <joemac> ah, no
[18:05] <joemac> rebooting now
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> joemac: dice?
[18:10] <joemac> Yes indeed - that did the trick
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Bashing-om
[18:10] <joemac> Folks in here are batting 1000
[18:11] <joemac> Fixed my suspend/resume yesterday and a niggling little trackpad thing today - excellent
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> joemac: if you have time and a launchpad account, feel free to add your fix to that bug
[18:11] <Bashing-om> yom yom yom chocolate-chip :P
[18:12] <joemac> I do have a launchpad account and I will add the solution to the bug.  Thanks!
[18:13] <stealthy> lol "!nomodeset" the ! threw me off amd didnt work
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: the ! ?
[18:15] <stealthy> yea i had to add "nomodeset" without the ! after the quiet thing for it to work
[18:15] <stealthy> lets see if i can get the nvidia drivers to install now
[18:16] <Bashing-om> stealthy: Later systems also disable secure boot ( driver is 3rd party) .
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: ubuntu-drivers list, to see wich are available for your card
[18:16] <stealthy> i should not get drivers from nvidia
[18:17] <ses1984> why does nginx-core pacakge in bionic have have hard dependencies on a bunch of modules, like `libnginx-mod-http-image-filter` -- is there a way i can remove these pacakges so apt doesn't try to fix them and put them back?
[18:17] <stealthy> .com?
[18:17] <stealthy> thick fingers small phone, sorry im clicking all over the place lol
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> stealthy: not reccomended no
[18:18] <Bashing-om> stealthy: Nvidia says "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.".
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> ses1984: perhaps use a pastebin of the whole output, so volunteers can see what apt does exactly?
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: Try "nginx-light" intead... you have to have the universe repository enabled.
[18:18] <stealthy> i see, makes sense
[18:19] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: https://askubuntu.com/a/556382
[18:19] <stealthy> ubuntu-drivers list returns a few, latest being 435, lets see how that goes
[18:20] <Bashing-om> stealthy: Let the system choose best ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' .
[18:20] <stealthy> thats probably why i failed and gave up last few times, assuming nvidia.com was vest lol
[18:21] <stealthy> best*
[18:22] <stealthy> reboot time
[18:23] <Bashing-om> stealthy: Some background on why chhose driver from the repo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html
[18:23] <stealthy> awesome, you guys saved me from hours of crap
[18:25] <de-facto> ses1984, this would be the dependency tree for nginx in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vXCqK3qmd7/
[18:26] <ses1984> i guess i want nginx-light, nginx-core depends on modules i dont want
[18:27] <stealthy> mind linking again Bashing-om? on desktop now, easier to read
[18:27] <Bashing-om> stealthy: A long thread but interesting how things came about: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html .
[18:28] <stealthy> ty
[18:28] <Bashing-om> stealthy: We aim to please :P
[18:29] <codedmart> Any tips for debugging why I can't seem to get synaptics to load? I have tried what the wiki suggested as well as adding a `/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/mouse.conf` file.
[18:29] <codedmart> Oh wrong channel
[18:29] <Bashing-om> codedmart: Maybe right as we just fixed a synaptics issue .
[18:30] <stealthy> 'august 10 2015' , few lines down 'Windows 10', where does time go, didn't realize it's been so long
[18:31] <Bashing-om> stealthy: Yeah ! was not that long ago was on (K)ubuntu 9.04 - wow!
[18:34] <stealthy> remember when they shipped free cd's?
[18:34] <stealthy> :D
[18:42] <J_Darnley> Where can I get kernel debug symbols for 4.15.0-74-generic?
[18:48] <hggdh-msft> J_Darnley: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-74-generic-dbgsym_4.15.0-74.84_amd64.ddeb?
[18:48] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[18:48] <J_Darnley> Why can't I find that in apt?
[18:49] <oerheks> the ~ddebs~ part is not activated
[18:50] <J_Darnley> Except for the part where I activated it.
[18:53] <ioria> J_Darnley, it's in bionic-update; maybe you missed that : http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:54] <J_Darnley> Do I only have "bionic" enabled?  What's the difference?
[18:55] <ioria> J_Darnley, in bionic you find 4.15.0-20
[19:39] <alkorda> Hello! I'm runing a fresh install of 19.10 and I'm running into an issue. If my display is turned off due to inactivity, waking it brings me to find that my resolution has changed, and that my actual resolution (3440 x 1440) is unavailable. Restarting resolves the issue. Any idea on what might cause this?
[19:55] <ioria> alkorda, try to lock the screen (Super+l); then resume ; switch to tty3 (ctrl+alt+f3) and back to gui (ctrl+alt+f2)
[19:56] <alkorda> Is that to resolve it when it happens?
[19:59] <ioria> alkorda, so it's just sporadic not persistent ?
[19:59] <alkorda> I'm 90% sure that it only happens if my screen is locked due to inactivity.
[20:00] <shreds> hi, last month apt forced chromium to use snap instead. since then I've had a lot of random issues. now I have a new crazy one, chromium's save dialog font is totally borked: http://0x0.st/i-JL.png so my questions are 1) any idea why this is happening? 2) any way of forcing APT to keep using deb version instead of snap? thanks
[20:01] <ioria> alkorda, set the timeout
[20:01] <alkorda> I'll try that, thanks
[20:01] <ioria> alkorda, system settings -> privacy
[20:03] <ioria> shreds, you can remove the snap and use the ppa ... no ?
[20:04] <shreds> ioria: apt tells me "chromium-browser is already the newest version (79.0.3945.79-0ubuntu0.19.10.2)" but I've been using ubuntu's default repos, didn't think of trying the ppa! let me try
[20:04] <ioria> shreds, are you on 19.10, right ?
[20:04] <shreds> when deb got transitioned to snap I lost all my profile I had to do excavation work to get it back :O
[20:04] <shreds> ioria: yes 19.10
[20:04] <ioria> ok
[20:05] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable?field.series_filter=eoan   is behind..
[20:05] <oerheks> oh that pic, have you posted his before?
[20:05] <ioria> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+archive/ubuntu/beta
[20:06] <shreds> oh I should use the beta one?
[20:06] <oerheks> remove the cache and restart chromium?
[20:06] <ioria> shreds, what yoou want
[20:06] <shreds> ok I installed https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[20:07] <shreds> now let me kill chrome, hoping I can get back all my stuff and tabs
[20:07] <ioria> shreds, nope, not the beta, sorry
[20:07] <oerheks> chrome or chromium?
[20:08] <shreds> chromium
[20:08] <ioria> shreds, use stable
[20:09] <shreds> ok got it, now removing the snap pkg
[20:10] <ioria> shreds, beat is available for 19.10 but idk this ppa : https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta
[20:10] <shreds> I still have that old chromium-browser transition deb
[20:10] <ioria> *beta
[20:10] <shreds> dahhhh reinstalling it triggers the snap install
[20:11] <ioria> shreds, really ?
[20:11] <kinghat> in config files like /etc/pam.d/sddm does a - in front of a line also denote a comment out like # does?
[20:11] <shreds> lol it installed a newer chromium version wtf i tried to upgrade and it said there wasn't any like 10 mins ago
[20:11] <shreds> ioria: yeah, maybe the PPA pkg name is different, I'll figure that part out XD
[20:12] <ioria> shreds, try to stop snapd temporary
[20:12] <shreds> oh nice that PPA has hardware video
[20:12] <shreds> I had a hard time getting it to work, chromium was the first browser I had it working out of the box
[20:16] <shreds> ioria: that ppa with hw video seems to work :D it's a different package and doesn't trigger the snap thing
[20:16] <ioria> ok
[20:16] <shreds> ioria: WOW! it opened with my old profile prior to snap transition! THANKS SO MUCH
[20:16] <ioria> shreds, good job
[20:16] <shreds> that snap version sucked so much I'm so happy to have the standard deb version back
[20:16] <shreds> thx :D
[20:18] <shreds> woah that version has even better video support, chrome://gpu is all green yay
[20:23] <gbit86> So am I officially in the ubuntu channel now?
[20:23] <gbit86> double checking here, I was in unregged earlier..
[20:23] <ioria> yes, you are gbit86
[20:23] <gbit86> Ah, thanks for confirming it for me lol.. it has been quite awhile since I have logged into irc to ask for some help.
[20:24] <dbristow> I got ubuntu 18.04.4 already, torrenting it now.
[20:25] <gbit86> I am really hoping to find a xkb expert around here that thinks they know how to remap the Alt+arrow keys to another combination.. Ctrl+arrow keys. I've already successfully mapped Control+arrow keys to stuff like the Home and End keys, but I need to remap alt now..
[20:26] <gbit86> I have this project going on where I am trying to make the linux key maps as much like macOS as possible. https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto
[20:27] <gbit86> I am pretty close, have partial macOS word-wise support added.. but the alt key stuff I think really does need to remap to the actual Ctrl+arrow combination (without it redirecting to what I am redirecting the actual Ctrl+arrow keys to already)..
[20:28] <gbit86> So I guess that's really the challenge. I've seen some people remap Alt to like Hyper and then map back to whatever they really want to do.. but I am not sure I want that or not.. I still want Alt to behave like Alt, except for the arrow keys with Alt.
[20:28] <oerheks> whole topic about this, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/10008/how-to-make-keyboard-work-like-osx-system-wide/1107443#1107443
[20:30] <ioria> gbit86, really idk what you're doing, but for that stuff usually i edit  /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/<>  or use xmodmap
[20:30] <gbit86> @oerheks, thanks I think I have read that thread before but taking another look.
[20:31] <oerheks> gnome-tweak-tool comes in handy, i read
[20:31] <gbit86> @ioria yea I am editing /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ as well but only in the actual user directory ~/.xkb/ avoiding making actual system changes.
[20:31] <ioria> right, right
[20:32] <gbit86> gnome-tweak-tool doesn't really go far enough, hence creating kinto.sh, it is a dynamic keymapper based on the app you are using (terminal apps vs every other gui app)
[20:32] <kinghat> does a dash, -, comment out a line in a system config file like # does?
[20:32] <gbit86> technically I rewrote it a few weeks back to also support more than those 2 binary categories of apps as well.
[20:35] <gbit86> also I will avoid autokey at all costs.. last time I used it the lag was so bad. And I really don't want to intercept the keys any ways.. I just want to fix the keyboard layout the moment the application type changes.
[20:38] <cgi> how do i remove a service completely from the system? is rm /etc/systemd/system/name.serivce enough
[20:38] <ioria> cgi, what service ?
[20:39] <oerheks> disable would be enough
[20:39] <cgi> ioria, I have some custom services running
[20:40] <oerheks> oh, then you know how those 'custom' services are installed
[20:46] <ses1984> earlier i asked about removing a package that is a dependency of other packages. the reason is it wasn't a hard dependency and i wanted to a known vulnerability to clear from one of my security scans. the fix for me turned out to be installing nginx-light instead of nginx-core which doesn't have deps on the vulnerable module
[20:46] <ses1984> now, i'm trying to get rid of a different vuln. libreoffice depends on libcmis depends on a vulnerable library. libcmis is for sharepoint support and i dont need it
[20:47] <ses1984> how can i remove this package in a way that doesn't make package management fubar on the system
[20:47] <gbit86> @oerheks that thread led back to github and things I had read several months ago.. the solutions mentioned there would work, but are really more complicated than it needs to be at this point. It doesn't focus on using xkb file to solve the problem, which at this point would be the simplest solution and avoid any need of me needing to use 3rd party tools to intercept key presses.
[20:47] <gbit86> xkb files*
[20:48] <gbit86> Also I can avoid any potential sticky key issues if xte was crash or stop running as mentioned in the thread.
[20:51] <gbit86> If I use any additional 3rd party tool it will likely be this one here https://github.com/boppreh/keyboard as it'd be far simpler to implement than anything else I have seen.
[21:06] <gbit86> yea.. the pure python based solution fails to work too -.-
[21:25] <dbristow> Anybody have an idea why ubuntustudio only has 18.04, no updates since then for the 18.04.x series?
[21:27] <dbristow> It's not like it's not being updated, there are 19.04 and 19.10 releases
[21:27] <dbristow> and 18.10
[21:27] <badsektur> when 20.04  comes out, can I upgrade my 18.04  into that?
[21:28] <sarnold> badsektur: yes; but do-release-upgrade may wait a few weeks before it'll work
[21:29] <Bashing-om> badsektur: Affirmed, direct LTS to LTS.
[21:29] <sarnold> badsektur: we normally "advertise" the upgrade path from one LTS to the next after several weeks delay to help make sure the early bugs are worked out
[21:29] <sarnold> dbristow: if you apt update you'll get all the fixes; and you can install an HWE kernel manually if you wish
[21:56] <ctrlbreak> Any idea why I can't download headers for my current kernel?  I'm confused.
[22:03] <jeremy31> ctrlbreak: what is your current kernel?
[22:09] <ctrlbreak> I think I've figured it out...
[22:09] <ctrlbreak> I'm apparently running Linux odroid 4.14.111-139 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 16 17:31:00 UTC 2019 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linu
[22:10] <ctrlbreak> I believe I have to go to HardKernel to get the matching source.
[22:10] <jeremy31> ctrlbreak: you would likely have to get the headers from the same site as kernel
[22:11] <jeremy31> Might want to find a newer kernel version, that one is 8 months old
[22:13] <TwistedBlizzard> Hi all, I'm trying to do load balancing across 2 network interfaces - all the tutorials I can find are out of date and do not use network-manager and make reference to the old network interface naming scheme.
[22:17] <Darkchaos> Does anyone know a bit about patches to libc/binutils in Ubuntu (as opposed to upstream at Debian)?
[22:24] <tatertots> TwistedBlizzard: network manager doesn't manage bonded/teamed interfaces
[22:25] <sarnold> tatertots: it can do something along those lines via libteam; but there's more conversation in #ubuntu-server at the moment
[22:28] <tatertots> sarnold: ubuntu server default doesn't have network manager ...TwistedBlizzard was the OP/original poster...i have F5 load balancers
[22:29] <sarnold> tatertots: yes, the conversation in #ubuntu-server aimed him towards https://netplan.io/examples#configuring-interface-bonding
[22:29] <TwistedBlizzard> tatertots: Cheers, I'm getting help in #ubuntu-server
[22:30] <Casper26> network-manager for me in 16.04 has the option to create a bond or team?
[22:32] <Casper26> I use bond with two nics and roundrobin as the mode.
[23:48] <Sbur3> Don't know for sure if this is the correct chat room ... but I am trying to get libdvdcss.so.2 so I can do something with my Ubuntu 19.10 system. How do I proceed?
[23:49] <Sbur3> channel list
[23:51] <Bashing-om> !info libdvd-pkg eoan
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Sbur3: ^^ this ?
[23:53] <Sbur3> Bashing-om: If that helps me rip an encrypted dvd, yes
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Sbur3: Looks correct - check: ' apt show libdvd-pkg ' .
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Sbur3: See too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[23:55] <Sbur3> Bashing-om: Before I can do that, I have a problem.  Type "<!DOCTYPE' is not known ...', followed by "The list of sources could not be read"
[23:56] <Sbur3> Bashing-om: How do I fix that?
[23:58] <hggdh-msft> Sbur3: difficult to help if you do not give us more details/context. Where did it happen? What were you doing? etc.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Sbur3: Ouch! .. what have you for sources list(s). Pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* '.