[03:48] <mattfly>  for some reason my bottom bar and all widgets , including the desktop that now is black, disappeared
[03:48] <mattfly> i restarted plasma but they didnt come back
[03:48] <mattfly>  plasmashell 5.12.9
[03:48] <mattfly> The shortcuts still work but i dont see the launcher widget... And alt+f2 work
[03:48] <mattfly> kubuntu 18.04 lts
[03:48] <mattfly> with nvidia proprietary drivers
[03:51] <mattfly> https://pastebin.com/ALJ57FqB
 mattfly can you run plasmashell & from krunner?
[03:52] <mattfly> i am oppening a terminal and running kstart5 plasmashell and it seems to be crashing
[03:55] <mattfly> https://pastebin.com/GXSi1aQb
 I have a problem guys
 I have org.gnome.Sdk and org.gnome.Platform installed via flatpak and gnome-builder via apt and gnome builder insists in installing them again because they "aren't installed"
 I specified the sdk and platform in the settings, but now flatpak says something is not initialized and I have to run flatpak build-init
 But when I do, it says that I have to specify the build path or something like that
 Can anyone help me?
 I'd love to help but I have very little experience with flatpacks.
 Me too, I have no idea about that
 What if I try installing gnome sdk and platform via apt? What would happen?
 I don't see a gnome sdk in the repo's... which packages would you try to install?
 gnome-builder, gnome platform and gnome sdk
 i just cant understand it
 I would recommend not install those packages via the repos as they appear to bring everything gnome with it... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JRr2jTNKtF/
 Gross...
 wait... "org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 is not installed"
 what does that means?
 If you have test box, you could see how well kubuntu and gnome packages mix, but my experience a couple years ago, that was not too fun - many competing packages trying to manage the same resources (such as network managers).
 @DarinMiller, I was a manjaro user that used like 3 desktops at the same time by accident
 i HATED it with ALL my soul. NOT NICE
 I think i fixed it, i just installed it completely via flatpak, for some reason, it looks like the basic adwaita theme or some thing like that
 after searching the pastebiin I posted above, there are a few of those packages that are gnome related, the rest appear to dev related.  So it might be OK to install.... but I definitely would try it in a vm or on a test machine first.
 nah, fixed it.
 IS BUILDING, SLOW BUT BUILDING HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 Woah... REAL slow... i shouldnt have been chosen polari :(
[04:32] <kia> moshi moshi
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:41] <larry> greetings all!
[09:42] <lordievader> 👋
[09:42] <larry> is this the right place to discuss issues with kubuntu 20.04 development version?
[09:43] <larry> I'm taking a toe in teh water look at it with a view to switching to the real LTS in April.
[10:06] <lordievader> Development versions are discussed in #ubuntu+1
[11:49] <Samspiol> Hello World
[11:58] <lordievader> 👋
[12:08] <t00tie> Can anyone tell me if Steam and gaming works on kubuntu? distrochooser says Mint is supported by games companies but doesn't mention the same for Kubuntu which I'd prefer?
[12:20] <lordievader> t00tie: Not all games work. However, for the ones that have Linux support Ubuntu was the target distro.
[12:20] <t00tie> lordievader: ty, that's what I wanted to hear
[12:33] <user|64854> bonjour tous le monde :o)
[12:40] <lionrouge_> hi !
[12:40] <lionrouge_> I'm now installing Kubuntu and got interested about encrypted LVM feature
[12:40] <lionrouge_> what does it encrypt?
[12:41] <lionrouge_> is it adequate foran average user (in case of stolen/lost laptop) ?
[12:42] <lordievader> lionrouge_: You can do this in two ways. LVM over LUKS or LUKS over LVM.
[12:43] <lordievader> LVM over LUKS first encrypts the entire disk and then makes volumes using LVM.
[12:43] <lordievader> LUKS over LVM first makes volumes which are then encrypted using LUKS.
[12:50] <lionrouge_> I'm now in installer GUI and it has 3 options: Auto (use the whole disk), Auto (use the whole disk and setup LVM), Auto (use the whole disk with encrypted LVM)
[12:56] <lionrouge_> so I was asking about the latter
[13:13] <lordievader> IIRC that is LVM over LUKS.
[13:18] <lionrouge_> does it degrade performance a lot?
[13:18] <lionrouge_> I care about things like Git and apt, for example
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
 hiii
[15:26] <rhi> greetings
[15:26] <rhi> anybody home?
 ET Phone home
 @lionrouge_, It depends on which ciper you use and which cpu you've got. AES is accelerated in most CPU's these days and on my nvme drive it had 0 performance decrease during the benchmark
[17:04] <BluesKaj> notyouraveragepizza, think you got the wrong chat or nick
 @BluesKaj, I dunno I just responded to a convo about full disk encryption in telegram
[17:14] <BluesKaj> doesn't telegram show the chatroom names?
 @BluesKaj, Nope only the usernames
[19:08] <mattfly>  plasmashell doesnt want to start
[19:08] <mattfly> https://pastebin.com/twycZN0S
[19:13] <Samspiol> Hello Guys\
[22:24] <Nazar> Можно по русски?
[22:26] <Nazar> Здравствуйте,пользуюсь вашей системой два дня.После установки расширания для Plasma  в Discover.При запуске Discover вылетает
[22:26] <bprompt> !ru @ Nazar
 @ubottu, More intelligent than most politicians these days...
[22:27] <Nazar> !ru @ Nazar
[22:28] <bprompt> !russian @ Nazar
[22:28] <bprompt> the heck?
[22:28] <bprompt> !russian
[22:28] <bprompt> !russian | Nazar
[22:28] <bprompt> hmmm anyhow
 That's actually a pretty smart bot right there...  "please see above"...  Nice...  :)
[22:29] <bprompt> !cookie @ blooalien
[22:31] <RikMills> !cookie | bprompt
[22:31] <bprompt> right, wrong hmmm separator
[22:31] <bprompt> !cookie | blooalien
 ubottu for President 2020!  Where do I vote?  ("Come to the Dark Side...  We have cookies!")
 @bprompt, `|` like Linux...  ;)
[22:34] <bprompt> blooalien:  I run windows, macOSX and Linux, I've used Solaris and Unix as well before =)
[22:35] <bprompt> well, I've used macOSX, I don't have it on this box, but I have windows10 and kubuntu, I used to run Mandrake 9.2 back in the 90's  and slackware :P
 @bprompt, Same...  I've used most operating systems over the years.  Still lovin' Linux best.
 AmigaOS was pretty awesome, too.
[22:38] <bprompt> never used AmigaOS, but I know some who did, they liked it quite a bit
 @bprompt, I had an Amiga 4000, and an Amiga 1200 for many years that served me quite well until I gave 'em to a friend.  He still uses both to this day (and has upgraded them FAR beyond what I would have believed possible).
 There's a surprisingly strong community still surrounding old Commodore hardware.
[22:41] <bprompt> pretty sure there's a Museum for it too :)
 @bprompt, RIghtly so.  That company made hardware so far ahead of it's time...
[22:44] <bprompt> yeap, bearing in mind that some companies make this or that, another company surpasses them on their quality, however it's noticeable that the new company is often formed from the older company's crew, different name, same cats quite often
[22:46] <bprompt> recalling a lecture, 3Dfx making videocards was well ahead of anyone on 3D effects, yet nVidia "improved" in quality and left them in the dust, however before any of that, nVidia ended up recruiting several people from 3Dfx
 I think one of my first real 3D cards was made by a company called "PowerVR" if I remember rightly.  I think I followed that up with a 3Dfx card shortly thereafter.