[00:02] <eelstrebor> why am i getting log messages like this even though there's no telnet access from the WAN: telnetd[1341]: telnetd : client 83.252.11.216 is blocked, terminate connection
[00:02] <oerheks>  ufw allow Zimbra -- ufw allow ssh -- ufw enable
[00:02] <oerheks> Zimbra is a shortkey
[00:05] <Chuckfu> must the firewall be enabled to allow 587,  trying to handle one issue at a time instead of possibly adding fire wall issues too
[00:15] <davedoom> did you try netstat?
[00:23] <nshirelaptop> I'm getting "cannot open display: :0" when I try to open gparted from terminal. note that I am using a gui.
[00:23] <nshirelaptop> when I try to open it from the applications menu, it asks for my password and then nothing helps
[00:24] <nshirelaptop> also note that I am able to open gedit from terminal and it all goes fine
[00:27] <davedoom> nshirelaptop: xhost +
[00:29] <nshirelaptop> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[00:34] <Nyle> Hello
[00:34] <Nyle> I wonder if it's any chance someone here uses Xmonad as their wm?
[00:41] <Katronix> hi all, can someone tell me how I install Ruby 2.7 on Ubuntu 18.04? when I do apt install ruby-full I only get 2.5
[00:49] <leftyfb> !latest | Katronix
[00:51] <leftyfb> Katronix: is there a reason you need 2.7 over 2.5?
[00:52] <Katronix> having an issue compiling a gem on the server, wondering if its the version of Ruby doing it
[01:00] <sarnold> Katronix: ruby 2.7 appears to be packaged for the devel release -- you could run it in a VM or LXD instance -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby2.7
[01:03] <Katronix> found the issue, was missing a library the gem needed
[01:03] <sarnold> woo :) much better
[01:17] <Chuckfu> Netstat did not show port 587 as open
[01:20] <sarnold> you'll probably need to check the zimbra docs to see what service they use for 587 and configure it appropriately then
[01:23] <aakside> Hello. I'm requesting help with configuring GDM to start Synergy at the login screen. I've followed the directions at the following link, but synergyc seems to only start PostLogin. I don't see anything meaningful in /var/log/syslog. I just see "synergyc: no process found" as expected from the killall command
[01:23] <aakside> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto#On_the_Client-1
[01:23] <aakside> *Synergy client
[01:24] <aakside> I'm running Ubuntu 19.10
[01:24] <sarnold> "/etc/kde3/" ... I have to wonder just how old these instructions are and if they are expected to work today
[01:25] <sarnold> that killall actually runs?
[01:25] <aakside> It does!
[01:25] <sarnold> amazing :)
[01:56] <leftyfb> aakside: I found this to be a better solution: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RDqMVVkn9m/
[01:56] <sarnold> but that waits until after login, correct?
[01:56] <sarnold> what's lost by not running this thing at the login prompt?
[01:56] <leftyfb> sarnold: it does, oh right. He wanted at the login
[01:57] <sarnold> Comment=Share your keyboard and mouse over a network
[01:57] <sarnold> hah it says it right there :) never mind
[01:57] <leftyfb> sarnold: wait, you've never used synergy?
[01:57] <sarnold> leftyfb: no
[01:57] <leftyfb> oh man, you've got to try it
[01:58] <leftyfb> I've been using it for years. It's completely crossplatform and works great
[01:58] <sarnold> is the idea that you can have eg a windows machine and a linux machine sitting on the same desk, have two monitors, one mouse, one keyboard, and use the one mouse and keyboard to drive either monitor?
[01:58] <leftyfb> correct
[01:59] <leftyfb> I use my laptop to control all the machines around me
[01:59] <leftyfb> You just slide your mouse off the screen towards the direction of the next monitor.... it can be almost any direction btw
[01:59] <sarnold> that does sound like black magic
[02:00] <leftyfb> it verymuch is
[02:00]  * sarnold hears drums rumbling in the deep
[02:00] <sarnold> thanks leftyfb :)
[02:01] <leftyfb> I talked with a compiz developer at a Boston meetup years ago about utilizing it's tech to allow dragging windows from one desktop to another in the same manner. Like it was an extended desktop, but it's another machine. He was intrigued but obviously nothing ever came of it
[02:01] <leftyfb> I still say it could be done if someone cared enough :)
[02:03] <leftyfb> it was one of the first UDS's I think
[04:19] <robertparkerx> What is sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 umask=000 for ubuntu
[04:19] <robertparkerx> it says it is not vali
[04:19] <robertparkerx> valid*
[04:24] <robertparkerx> nevermind it says it is already mounted
[04:32] <amosbird> hello, what might be the cause of this emergency boot?  https://la.wentropy.com/082o
[05:02] <John_> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 18.04.4 alongside windows 10 but it cant detect win 10 during installation
[05:02] <John_> i tried disabling fast boot but didnt help
[05:20] <RadSurfer_> Anyone know Keystroke that actives Menu on terminal?
[05:21] <guiverc> RadSurfer_, probably varies on what terminal you are using; qterminal menu is operated with ALT on my release (20.04)
[05:21] <RadSurfer_> alt alone doees nothing
[05:22] <RadSurfer_> there is no general tab in preferences
[05:22] <guiverc> eg. ALT+E pulls up edit menu, ALT+V for view, alt alone adds a underscore under all FileActionEditViewHelp FAEVH options to show it's there for me\
[05:23] <guiverc> fyi:  i get the same response using gnome-terminal too
[05:24] <RadSurfer_> nope. Ub 19.10
[05:24] <RadSurfer_> I activated it by accident, want to know what it is
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> amosbird: this is ubuntu support, not redhat
[05:24] <guiverc> alt-F, alt-E don't work as I'd expect on mine, but given I'm not running GNOME that could be why...
[05:26]  * RadSurfer_ IS SO DENSE!
[05:26] <RadSurfer_> simply right-click inside terminal! its listed on bottom! ;)
[05:27] <huff3r> I used to have a million friends on irc, now I barely have 10,000
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !ot | huff3r
[05:40] <hmw[at]> sudo cryptsetup luksFormat $(losetup $(losetup -f) TEST.IMG) $(losetup -f) --key-file=key.file    results in "loop device too small". The file is preinitialized with DD to 1GB zeroes. What am I doing wrong?
[05:46] <hmw[at]> Hm. Can anyone read this? Am I muted or something? All channels appear to be asleep
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hmw[at]
[05:47] <hmw[at]> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks. It's just that I waited in another channel for longer before and I was wondering.
[06:35] <evilscrew> what happened to my mouse cursor
[06:35] <evilscrew> disappeared after updating software
[06:35] <evilscrew> i can still click things
[06:36] <evilscrew> but its gone..
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> evilscrew: a bit more details always nice, like ubuntu version, wich kernel,..
[06:38] <evilscrew> linux mint cinnamon
[06:38] <evilscrew> latest
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !mint | evilscrew
[06:38] <evilscrew> i presume the kernels is latest
[06:39] <evilscrew> tried there for a few days
[06:39] <evilscrew> no ones answering
[06:39] <evilscrew> linux mint is a version of ubuntu
[06:39] <evilscrew> or based on ubuntu i should say
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> evilscrew: the mint support is an active channel too, and sorry no, we cannot support derivatives
[06:40] <evilscrew> incorrect
[06:40] <evilscrew> been trying there for a few days now and no reply
[06:40] <evilscrew> this answer cannot be accepted
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> evilscrew: well its also not a topic for here
[06:41] <evilscrew> incorrect
[08:06] <akik> will ubuntu have wayland as the default in 20.04?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> no akik, still xorg
[08:07] <akik> thanks
[08:08] <akik> i get a funny feeling when people talk how bad xorg is and how wayland will fix everything
[08:09] <akik> and even ubuntu doesn't feel it's ready for prime time
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> akik: feel free to discuss about that in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:09] <akik> meh
[08:18] <mahdi_ja> i run kdevelop app image in ubuntu 19.10 but style of this application no same as gnome style and menu are very small how i run kde app same this (from app image) as gnome app style
[10:29] <Flexyjerkov> Question...: I've recently taken a side step to using xfce instead of gnome for my shell, is there anyway i can completly pull gnome/uninstall without causing the end of the world. Running 18.04
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: installing other flavours ontop ubuntu-desktop is nice to try them, but when you like one, we would reccomend installing the real think, aka xubuntu?
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: if you purge the base ubuntu-desktop, you might result into issues
[10:31] <anonymip> is it possible to add anew line to /etc/crontab if you want a cron job to run at a speciffic time that don't fall under either of /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly or /etc/cron.monthly ?
[10:31] <Flexyjerkov> yep thats my thinking. thats why i wanted to holdfire on it.
[10:32] <geirha> I'd expect installing xubuntu-desktop and removing ubuntu-desktop to be fairly safe
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> geirha: did you try this lately?
[10:32] <Flexyjerkov> "expect" being the word.
[10:33] <geirha> Not lately, I did try it with lubuntu-desktop around 13.xx or 14.xx with success
[10:33] <holdthedeer> anonymip yes, you can
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> geirha: good to know, it doesnt purge pull all kinds of needed things away?
[10:34] <geirha> that is, converted an ubuntu to lubuntu
[10:34] <anonymip>  lk, sounds good
[10:34] <anonymip> *ok
[10:34] <holdthedeer> do you know how to do?
[10:34] <Flexyjerkov> should be able to do it with crontab -e
[10:35] <geirha> the installed packages ubuntu-desktop depended on, that also no other packages depend on should get removed next time you run an apt autoremove
[10:35] <Flexyjerkov> "min" "hour" "day of month" "month" "day of week"
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> ok fair geirha
[10:36] <mnr200> Hello, I'm trying to record my screen with SimplescreenRecorder. It works fine, but I getting a static boo.. noise in the background. I'm using logitech headset.
[10:36] <mnr200> Can anyone give me the idea, how can I fix it?
[10:36] <Flexyjerkov> so geirha, you think apt installing xubuntu-desktop then an autoremove should remove ubuntu-desktop?
[10:37] <anonymip> and btw, who came up with the scheduled times in /etc/crontab ?
[10:37] <geirha> Flexyjerkov: no, after installing xubuntu-desktop and removing ubuntu-desktop, then an apt autoremove should remove the packages ubuntu-desktop depended on if no other packages depend on them
[10:37] <Flexyjerkov> ill give it a shot...
[10:37] <Flexyjerkov> maybe rebuilding my laptop shortly..
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: dont forget to make backups too :p
[10:38] <geirha> there'll likely be some gnome packages left, but it should remove the ones it's safe to remove
[10:40] <isomari> greetings, I have to restart my network after every boot. I'm usnig interfaces. Netplan has been disabled. Any clues as to why I have to restart networking each time?
[10:42] <tarzeau> isomari: you're not using systemd-networkd? /etc/systemd/networkd/ empty?
[10:42] <Flexyjerkov> xubuntu-desktop : Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[10:42] <Flexyjerkov>                    Depends: xubuntu-core but it is not going to be installed
[10:42] <Flexyjerkov>                    Recommends: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[10:42] <Flexyjerkov> Think ill hold off for now
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: got external ppa's on your system? wich command did you use?
[10:43] <Flexyjerkov> just an apt install xubuntu-desktop
[10:44] <Flexyjerkov> and quite a few extra ppa's
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: check if your system is up to date, and for a clean apt experience, i would purge ppa's first
[10:46] <isomari> tarzeau: there's a /etc/system/network folder that's empty. But no /etc/systemd/networkd folder.
[10:47] <isomari> tarzeau: I'm using systemctl restart networking to get it working.
[10:49] <mra90> hwo does grub detect windows or other operating systems? On what basics?
[10:53] <Flexyjerkov> ok well i cant apt install xubuntu-desktop as it doesnt exist after removing kali PPA's... which is fine... trying to use tasksel though and dont get an option for Xubuntu Desktop, only Ubuntu desktop and Lubuntu Desktop
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> Flexyjerkov: installing another flavour desktop should be easy, as geirha just mentioned...think your system might be in bad shape atm?
[10:54] <geirha> !info xubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <Flexyjerkov> might need to do a clean up in that case...
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | Flexyjerkov apt gives errors?
[10:56] <glambert> Hi, I came in here yesterday for some help with my new laptop.  I've got a very restrictive BIOS version it seems and I can't seem to disable the Intel RST, meaning I can't install Ubuntu
[10:56] <glambert> I've popped the details on the forum if anyone is able to take a look, I'd really appreciate it
[10:56] <glambert> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2436852&p=13932137#post13932137
[10:58] <Flexyjerkov> Hit:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease Hit:2 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease             Hit:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease               Hit:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/quassel/ubuntu bionic InRelease         Hit:5 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease            Hit:6 http://repository.veeam.com/backup/linux/agent/dpkg/debian/
[10:58] <Flexyjerkov> public stable InRelease Reading package lists... Done     all appears fine but ill try a full-upgrade
[11:02] <tarzeau> isomari: /me has no idea *shrug*
[11:07] <isomari> tarzeau: thanks anyway
[11:12] <mra90> does ubuntu live usb comes with grub?
[11:12] <jeremy31> mra90: yes
[11:12] <mra90> so grub image is copied on the very forst sector of the usb memory
[11:12] <mra90> first*
[11:13] <jeremy31> mra90: I think booting an ISO is a bit different that a HDD boot
[11:14] <mra90> jeremy31, yes and I am interested in this difference
[11:14] <mra90> where I can read about it
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> mra90: what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:16] <mra90> lotuspsychje, nothing to do, I just try to understand how does MBR look in case of live USB
[11:16] <mra90> or however they call the bootable USB device
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> mra90: come join at #ubuntu-discuss then, to ask
[12:08] <hyperknot> hi, in an apt source line, what does the version number mean after "main"?
[12:08] <hyperknot> like "deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ xenial-pgdg main 11"
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> !sources | hyperknot
[12:57] <`ajven> Hello, there is any way to save fractal scaling 150% via nvidia-settings? If I wont use nvidia settings ubunut drop my configuration after each reboot, but I dont see fractal scaling option in nivida-settings. Someone can help?
[13:03] <muhaha> guys? I am getting black screen after reboot ( ubuntu 19.10, luks encrypted ), everything else is working, like startup/shutdown, only thing when I will reboot from OS, I will get post logo and then no grub menu selection just black screen
[13:03] <muhaha> any ideas?
[13:21] <muhaha> seems its related to secure boot, I installed ubuntu with secure boot enabled, then I disabled secure boot for virtual box...
[13:22] <Chuckfu> with no firewall installed or enabled why is port 587 now showing up in netstat as open
[13:22] <Chuckfu> not
[13:23] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: what do you have confirmed listening on port 587?
[13:23] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: sudo lsof -i :587  # you might have to install lsof
[13:24] <littlekimmy> what are the different types of logs
[13:25] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: more context please
[13:25] <Chuckfu> the command lsof -i :587 show no info what soever, just returns to the command line
[13:26] <littlekimmy> such as last cmd returns data, where is all my activity stored
[13:26] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: then you have nothing running on port 587 and that is why the port is not open, why would it be?
[13:26] <littlekimmy> I only know history .bash_history
[13:26] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: what are you trying to accomplish
[13:26] <littlekimmy> it seems /var/log has some files, but don't understand them
[13:26] <littlekimmy> to see what they store
[13:26] <Chuckfu> newbie, So I have to install an application that uses that port in order for the port to be open
[13:27] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: https://stackify.com/linux-logs/
[13:27] <littlekimmy> for example: $last ; #this cmd stores all my last logins
[13:27] <nedR> hello, i am trying to run terraria on an ancient 4gb laptop, but ubuntu 18.04 crashes due to running out of ram, when i open the world file... It seems i am just barely running out of ram as their requirements says 4gb on linux... On fresh bootup linux says 2.7gb free , on opening steam it becomes about 2.1gb free.. but terraria needs steam to run.. how can i free more ram to run terraria.. would installing a lightweight windowmanager help.. is there a way to
[13:27] <nedR> force gnome to free ram?
[13:27] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:28] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: this is a support channel. If you'd like to learn linux, there's lots of documentation and tutorials online. For instance, the link I posted above I found by typing "linux logs" into google and clicked on the first result.
[13:28] <Chuckfu> I have a Mastodon instanse that sends smtp secure email out that port and is not sending
[13:29] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: you do not need SMTP open(inbound) to the outside world in order to send email
[13:29] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: you'll need to contact the mastodon project for support with mastodon
[13:30] <littlekimmy> if I use sudo dd ... will it be logged because of authentication in auth logs
[13:30] <littlekimmy> using pam
[13:30] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: anything run with sudo typically gets logged, yes
[13:30] <Chuckfu> ok thank you very much for the quick response , better than support forum
[13:30] <littlekimmy> by which application
[13:31] <littlekimmy> what if I sudo -i; #ls ; will it be logged , how do I view the cmd that I last ran like ls;
[13:31] <littlekimmy> but after sudo -i
[13:32] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: again, this is an ubuntu support channel. If you're looking for an education, this isn't the place. There's lots of online docuemntation and tutorials for any topic you can think of.
[13:33] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: to answer your question, once logged in as root, logging commands run as root is not logged by default
[13:33] <nedR> littlekimmy, type history to see last 2000 commands (i think)
[13:33] <leftyfb> ok, right, it's logged by history, though there's trivial ways around that. Not to be relied on if you think you've been compromised or someone is trying to hide their activity
[13:34] <nedR> yeah.. if someone pwned your system they can erase all traces
[13:34] <leftyfb> for instance, putting a space before the command you're going to run makes it not logged in history
[13:34] <nedR> ya... now ur question is security related..
[13:35] <davedoom> hi guys.  I'm running ubuntu 18 on a Raspberry pi4 ( first time for me).  I want to add this to the grub kernel config  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash" ... but no grub.  So, what do I do?
[13:35] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | davedoom
[13:35] <littlekimmy> sudo ls; how do i view the log
[13:35]  * leftyfb sigh
[13:35] <littlekimmy> I want to view that sudo cmd
[13:35] <littlekimmy> you said it's logged
[13:35] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: look in syslog
[13:35] <littlekimmy> ahh
[13:36] <nedR> sudo su
[13:36] <nedR> history
[13:36] <leftyfb> davedoom: you might be better served in #raspberrypi
[13:36] <davedoom> ok.  I think they mainly use rasbian.
[13:36] <leftyfb> nedR: roots history does not log non-privileged user commands running sudo
[13:36] <nedR> leftyfb, oh ok i misunderstood question
[13:37] <nedR> Can anyone help me free ram so i can run terraria on ubuntu 18.04?
[13:37] <leftyfb> nedR: free ram?
[13:38] <nedR> yes
[13:38] <nedR> i will repeat question
[13:38] <leftyfb> Close applications?
[13:38] <nedR> hello, i am trying to run terraria on an ancient 4gb laptop, but ubuntu 18.04 crashes due to running out of ram, when i open the world file... It seems i am just barely running out of ram as their requirements says 4gb on linux... On fresh bootup linux says 2.7gb free , on opening steam it becomes about 2.1gb free.. but terraria needs steam to run.. how can i free more ram to run terraria.. would installing a lightweight windowmanager help.. is there a way to
[13:38] <nedR> force gnome to free ram?
[13:39] <leftyfb> Add more physical memory to your machine or run a different DE like xfce or Lxde
[13:39] <nedR> yes.. already all applications i can close are closed... now it seems system applications are only left
[13:40] <nedR> leftyfb, ah ok.. so i can install DE like xfce or lxde sidebyside gnome? just for terraria?
[13:40] <leftyfb> you can try, sure
[13:40] <Flexyjerkov> Thanks for the help earlier lotuspsychje, i've finally got xfce working by itself without gnome
[13:40] <nedR> also just to be clear... there is no lightweight version of gnome like with compositor everything disabled?
[13:40] <littlekimmy> nedR: how will the attacker edit journal binaries ?
[13:41] <`ajven> Hello, there is any way to save fractal scaling 150% via nvidia-settings? If I wont use nvidia settings ubunut drop my configuration after each reboot, but I dont see fractal scaling option in nivida-settings. Someone can help?
[13:41] <leftyfb> ot ! littlekimmy
[13:41] <leftyfb> ot | littlekimmy
[13:42] <leftyfb> ugh
[13:42] <Flexyjerkov> the fix for me to get xfce only was to sudo tasksel and select Xubuntu Desktop then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop and clean afterwards
[13:42] <nedR> littlekimmy, i dunno.. i am just speculating.. if they have root, they just have to erase all logs that linux generates..
[13:42] <leftyfb> littlekimmy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-security
[13:43] <nedR> ya you should ask a security minded channel... since it is a complicated question...
[13:43] <nedR> leftyfb, also just to be clear... there is no lightweight version of gnome like with compositor everything disabled?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:44] <leftyfb> Not really. You can look into gnome flashback or gnome classic. Not sure if it’s still around
[13:45] <nedR> leftyfb, ah ok.. not looking for differnet gnome DE,  just a command... sometimes when gnome crashes , whole desktop disappears and forces into single window mode... i was just hoping that there would be a command that would do that on purpose
[13:45] <Flexyjerkov> nedR is there a requirement for gnome? maybe switching is a better option
[13:45] <leftyfb> nedR: nope, that’s not a thing
[13:47] <nedR> Flexyjerkov, not too particularly.. gnome works reasonably well on my 10 year old craptop.. right balance of weight and features... this was just one thing that was tripping gnome up... also for gaming, it seems gnome has least input lag on average compared to all/most other DEs including 'lightweight DEs'
[13:48] <nedR> I can try installing a minimal ram DE sidebyside hopefully tho.. if it isn't too much hassle
[13:48] <nedR> leftyfb, just for running terraria... which is the lightest DE you would recommend?
[13:51] <leftyfb> nedR: I already have you a couple options. But really, it's going to come down on the inadequate specs of your 10yo machine.
[13:53] <nedR> leftyfb, hey.. greta tunenberg telling us not to dump old laptops into the ocean and buy new crap all the time
[13:53] <leftyfb> nedR: I'm not saying it can't be used. Just not to play a game on steam
[13:57] <Flexyjerkov> anyone know how to delay irc joining servers until regserv is done?
[13:59] <leftyfb> !ot | Flexyjerkov
[14:00] <robertparkerx> I have installed vsftpd and some basic config with userlist access enabled. I created the user and defined the local_root. When I try to login ftp://IP I use the credentials but it asks me again, and again.
[14:00] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: what do your logs say?
[14:00] <robertparkerx> where are the logs sorry
[14:01] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: what does the vsftpd documentation say about where the logs are stored?
[14:01] <Rudde> Hey, is it possible to have several upperdirs on overlayfs? Like UnionFS, or aufs?
[14:02] <Rudde> I bascially just need an Union FS, but after reading about the differen ones everyone cite overlay fs as the correct way of doing it and that's it in ther kernel
[14:03] <robertparkerx> leftyfb https://termbin.com/ihuf
[14:05] <leftyfb> Rudde: it's possible to use multiple lower layers. I'm not sure about upper. I would keep googling.
[14:07] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: try journalctl -xeu vsftpd
[14:07] <nedR> leftyfb, i play plenty of old games on this lap on steam, it is quite doable if you have reasonable expectations... Terraria was reasonable in the past it required only 512 mb ram at one point.. but now it seems to have crept up to 4gb ram which ihave
[14:07] <robertparkerx> nothing
[14:08] <Ool> Hi, when I do: dpkg-reconfigure lightdm , I have to choose gdm or lightdm… how to give the answer directly ?
[14:09] <Ool> I need it to script this action
[14:14] <leftyfb> Ool: debconf-show lightdm  # then use DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE to answer those questions
[14:14] <robertparkerx> I got it
[14:14] <robertparkerx> It was permissions
[14:14] <robertparkerx> I had to 775 the local_root
[14:14] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: where did you figure that out?
[14:15] <robertparkerx> chmod a-w
[14:15] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: no, not how you fixed it. What told you that was the issue that needed to be solved?
[14:16] <robertparkerx> it was not working. It would askkk for credentials, I would enter and it would ask for them again.
[14:17] <Rudde> leftyfb: I have serveral lower now, but it's like 5x 10 TB drives, I don't want the volume to "run out of space" when it hit 10 TB usage, I also want the data spread across.
[14:17] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: so changing permissions was just one of the random things you tried?
[14:17] <robertparkerx> Yes :|
[14:22] <nedR> Can i install xfce alongside gnome in ubuntu 18.04 without it overriding or conflicting with gnome?
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> yup
[14:23] <nedR> can 2 DEs coexist with each other
[14:23] <nedR> pragmaticenigma, ah ok thanks...
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> they won't run at the same time, but you will be able to choose which one you desire when you login into your machine
[14:25] <Ool> leftyfb: to be sure, I need to do it manually, do a debconf-show lightdm to see 'shared/default-x-display-manager: lightdm' then do a : DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE='shared/default-x-display-manager: lightdm' and after do: dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive lightdm , isn't it ?
[14:25] <nedR> pragmaticenigma, ah that is perfect.. i just want to use xfce when i want to run terraria on steam
[14:25] <nedR> hopefully that will free up enough ram to play it
[14:26] <leftyfb> Ool: to be honest, I've never tried it. Only 1 way to find out
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> nedR: XFCE can still be a bit heavy, you might also want to consider trying LXDE
[14:26] <Ool> :) thanks anyway
[14:30] <nedR> pragmaticenigma, Oh really? i was going by this https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/80em7k/comparison_of_ram_usage_of_desktop_environments/ which suggested Xfce as quite lightweight.. i was kind of wary of lxde because a bunch of reddit benchmarks suggested high input lag/low performance for lxde... among the worst.. how much ram difference do you think there is between lxde vs xfce
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> nedR: I tend to go with my own experience rather than what a bunch of people say on the internet. There are so many variables they're not telling you about. There's no harm in trying, and if it doesn't work for you, there is the option to remove it.
[14:32] <oerheks> and take LXQT in the comparison
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu came out, not to be the lightest anymore
[14:33] <Ool> leftyfb: not working like that… but know I have some keyword to dig about it
[14:33] <Ool> s/know/now
[14:33] <nedR> True, but i did a meta-analysis of bunch of ppls anecdotes and generally gnome comes near the top and lxde comes near bottom for gaming ... These are some threads tlaking about input lag : https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/cii545/linux_input_lag_analysis_v26des_windows_10_1809/  https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/c0ly6b/linux_input_lag_analysis7des_tested_windows/ ...
[14:33] <nedR> pragmaticenigma, ^
[14:33] <leftyfb> nedR: try them both. Good luck
[14:34] <nedR> is ram difference between xfce and lxde significant?
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> lotuspsychje: That's not entirely correct. LXDE and Lubuntu have decided to discontinue targeting a build at low end hardware. That doesn't mean they are building a heavier desktop.
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> nedR: perhaps you should take this to #ubuntu-discuss more now
[14:34] <oerheks> LXQT ..
[14:35] <nedR> lotuspsychje, oh sorry, ya maybe i will
[14:50] <JustLandedOnMars> hi
[14:51] <JustLandedOnMars> is there a problem of using HDD with more than 2TB space on 32bit linux ?
[14:51] <JustLandedOnMars> on this page: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/can-i-use-2-ssds.2006636/    it says:
[14:51] <JustLandedOnMars> "you can have as many drives as your motherboard is able to connect to, including any combination of SSD and HDDs. Only problem is that a 32-bit system may not recognize and work properly with more than 2TB of storage space."
[14:51] <JustLandedOnMars> I have linux  and 250GB as system drive and I have 2TB as external USB drive, so I haven't attached anything bigger than 2TB, so is this correct will I have problems on 32bit system with something more than 2TB drive ?
[14:52] <oerheks> never heard of that, 2Tb should be fine on 32 bit
[14:52] <JustLandedOnMars> no, I ask about more than 2TB
[14:52] <JustLandedOnMars> I used 2TB without problems
[14:53] <oerheks> that post might point to fat32 and 2tb or larger
[14:53] <oerheks> not a ext4 problem at all
[15:03] <leftyfb> JustLandedOnMars: what version of ubuntu are you running on 32bit?
[15:21] <giaco> I have to launch multiple gui programs (actually video players) from bash script and I want them tiled on my screen
[16:34] <mave_> would be nice if openshh 8.2 makes it to 20.04
[16:34] <mave_> it has FIDO U2F hardware support
[16:35] <oerheks> mave it just got released, i think it will not be in 20.04, as it is LTS
[16:36] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+publishinghistory
[16:36] <mave_> is there already a software freeze for 20.04?
[16:37] <oerheks> no
[16:37] <oerheks> join #ubuntu+1 for focal questions, until release
[16:38] <mave_> ah nice
[16:59] <Kali_Yuga> hi, was trying to help someone with installing ubuntu but I'm not there so, when booting this happens https://i.imgur.com/nyqWfIJ.jpg / I looked it up found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-check_exception he says motherboard looks fine & no dust... apparently windows still works, is there a different error threshold between linux&windows in these checks?
[17:00] <oerheks> do a memtest86 run, to find out
[17:00] <thinkcru35> hello, I just installed some packages, for example nslcd, everytime i restart my ubuntu container, I have to  do a service nslcd start, how do I get this to start automatically on reboot?
[17:03] <oerheks> thinkcru35, enable that service with: systemctl enable nslcd.service
[17:03] <oerheks> and check it after boot; systemctl status nslcd.service
[17:04] <thinkcru35> oerheks so systemctl == systemd?
[17:04] <oerheks> yes
[17:05] <thinkcru35> got it thanks!
[17:31] <Chuckfu> I have ufw enable and have and performed ufw allow 587/tcp and it show being allowed anywhere, but telnet still time out, any ideas
[17:33] <oerheks> telnet connects to 23/tcp ...
[17:33] <oerheks> why are you using 587?
[17:33] <Chuckfu> trying to check if 587 will connect
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: is anything running on port 587?
[17:35] <Chuckfu> a mail server
[17:35] <oerheks> ...
[17:37] <Chuckfu> when I check the application logs that I trying to send mail from it says connection was refused
[17:37] <rfm> Chuckfu, where are you trying the telnet from?  Lots of ISPs block SMTP ports...
[17:38] <Chuckfu> I have a cox business account they pretty much tell me take care of the ports security
[17:38] <rfm> Chuckfu, lots of ISPs also lie...
[17:38] <pragmaticenigma> rfm: Let's just stick to the support side for now
[17:39] <thinkcru> does anyone know if I really need nscd?  I have nslcd running, but is nscd really needed?
[17:39] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: can you show us an example of your command for telnet?
[17:40] <Chuckfu> telnet justourmail.com 587
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> thinkcru: They are not the same thing, so yes, you will need to have both
[17:41] <Chuckfu> they one that is blocking it is topic-master.com
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: Are you trying to run an SMTP server on port 587?
[17:42] <Chuckfu> yes
[17:42] <pragmaticenigma> and you don't have port 25 open?
[17:42] <Chuckfu> it is open for normal use
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> define normal use?
[17:44] <Chuckfu> any person with an account on the server, this is a application trying to send me new user account request
[17:44] <alle37> Hey, i am a gamer. Anyone else tried to play the new fully released Wolcen - Lords of mayhem. The character is not rendering well.. has a big blob on the head. Seen same problems on ptotondb site. Was just wondering if anyone else here that maybe plays the game and doesnt have that issue.
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> alle37: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for game related chat... support here is only for software obtained through Ubuntu's official software channels
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: I'm going to defer you to head over to #ubuntu-server... however, I will part you with this... There is a lot more to setting up a mail server and opening a port. If you don't know what you are doing, you should consider hiring someone that does know or outsourcing to an actual mail provider that can set this up properly for you.
[17:47] <alle37> pragmaticenigma thnx for the answer and direction.
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: There are lots of standards involved here, and I think you're missing some of them. Also, if left configured improperly, you will just create a mail relay station for spammers to leverage
[17:47] <Chuckfu> Oh yeah I am aware of the dangers, but this is how I learn, rather than let someone do it for me, thank you for trying to help
[17:48] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu: one final note... many IP addresses are on various blacklists, which means mail destined or sent from your domain will get blocked and there isn't anything you can do about that
[17:49] <Chuckfu> understood, but how did you learn to configure a  mail server or a linux workstation, you have to start somewhere, someone has to learn how to do it, might as well be me too
[17:50] <Chuckfu> again thank you for trying to help
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> I worked for an ISP in college/university, that's how I learned
[17:51] <Chuckfu> yes but you sat down at a workstation and performed the task, I short I not one to go our and hire it done everytime I want to learn something, I learn by doing
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> this is one of those things that will burn you greatly to "figure it out as you go along"  ... would be smarter to hire someone to teach you then
[17:52] <Chuckfu> thanks room your answers are quick and to the best of your knowledge
[18:08] <bratchley> when installing a VM with virt-install, is there a way to get ubuntu to automatically set "console=ttyS0" without editing /etc/default/grub post-install?
[18:09] <bratchley> just trying to see if I'm doing something incorrect since it seems like I should be able to let Ubuntu know that info upfront
[18:09] <bratchley> I tried setting "--display none" on virt-install but the install doesn't appear to work, I don't get any sort of console from that.
[18:13] <leftyfb> bratchley: the man page for virt-install has exactly what you're looking for. Look up -X
[18:24] <bratchley> leftyfb: I'm not using --location to do my installs, I'm using an ISO to install from
[18:24] <bratchley> I think -x is for people installing from HTTP or FTP or something
[18:25] <leftyfb> bratchley: https://linux.die.net/man/1/virt-install
[18:27] <leftyfb> oh, I see
[18:27] <leftyfb> use a preseed maybe?
[18:34] <bratchley> I may do that eventually, I was mainly just trying to see if vanilla Ubuntu had anything in the installer for easily telling it to set that kernel arg
[18:56] <ianthius> hello, i am logging into another user via xhost, e.g xhost +SI:localuser:myUser  -- however my audio doesn't also come through. I am using 18.04, any suggestions to get audio as well? Open to an alternative to xhost to getting x here as well. Thank you
[18:56] <ianthius> *logging in another user and then using xhost to forward x to the current account
[18:57] <ducasse> ianthius: you can use pulseaudio to set up a client and sever, x forwarding does not forward audio
[18:58] <ianthius> i already have pulseaudio running since audio is running on my system
[18:58] <ducasse> ianthius: you need to configure pulseaudio to set up a server
[18:58] <ianthius> is there a specific way i would forward myUser's audio to pulseaudio's supposedly already running server?
[18:59] <ianthius> ducasse: thanks, so it's not already running a 'server' for default audio setup on 18.04
[18:59] <ducasse> ianthius: https://blogs.gnome.org/ignatenko/2015/07/31/how-to-set-up-network-audio-server-based-on-pulseaudio-and-auto-discovered-via-avahi/
[19:03] <ianthius> ducasse: Thank you, given that these users are on the same machine, do you think this network approach is the best way to go?
[19:04] <ducasse> if they're on the same machine, i'd expect audio to play locally if permissions are correct
[19:05] <ianthius> maybe i need to give myUser permission to play audio somehow without a proper session open, since myUser is logged in only on the terminal
[19:05] <ducasse> the user also needs pulseaudio running
[19:10] <JustASlacker> whats that website where you can see which version is included in a distribution
[19:12] <JustASlacker> ah https://repology.org/
[19:12] <JustASlacker> thank!
[19:12] <neatnik> hi, what does it mean when df shows 55% use but df -i shows 100% use on a volume? :(
[19:13] <neatnik> (and everything is reporting that the disk is full)
[19:13] <EriC^^> neatnik: it means the inodes are used up
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> neatnik: from the man page "-i" reports the utilization on inodes... which your drive is setup to have less of compared to the actual amount of space in the drive
[19:14] <EriC^^> which usually means there's alot of small files that dont take up lots of space, but are enough to use up all the inodes, which refer to the files
[19:14] <neatnik> EriC^^, pragmaticenigma, thanks, learned something new!
[19:14] <neatnik> so in this case my remediation would be to find and nuke those small files, vs. looking for big files to remove?
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: I think you're mixing blocks up with inodes
[19:15] <EriC^^> neatnik: yeah, exactly
[19:16] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: tbh i dont see how
[19:16] <neatnik> I'm guessing log files? is there an easy way to just wipe all logs without breaking stuff?
[19:16] <EriC^^> if he has alot of small files, then the space wouldn't be used up (55%), yet the inodes would be used up
[19:17] <EriC^^> neatnik: which fs is this anyways?
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> inodes are descriptors of file objects, ach inode stores the attributes and disk block locations of the object's data. So an inode contains information about the block... so it is more like an entry in the File Allocation Table (aka table of contents)
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> An inode can reference multiple "blocks"
[19:19] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: doesn't each inode refer to a file?
[19:19] <thinkcru> i have a "service" that is not starting in the docker container
[19:19] <neatnik> EriC^^: it says /dev/vda1
[19:19] <EriC^^> neatnik: type 'sudo blkid /dev/vda1'
[19:19] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: No... you can have multiple inodes per file
[19:19] <neatnik> EriC^^: /dev/vda1: LABEL="cloudimg-rootfs" UUID="2ce1f7e4-442d-4112-9b3e-e727e438808d" TYPE="ext4"
[19:19] <pragmaticenigma> aka fragmentation
[19:19] <thinkcru> if I start the ubuntu docker container with "sleep infinity" does this mean it will not boot up my services automatically?
[19:19] <neatnik> oh, do I need to defrag?
[19:20] <neatnik> this is an out of date version of Ubuntu that hasn't been patched in forever, sadly
[19:20] <neatnik> (long story, but I can't update or patch it)
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> neatnik: At this stage, you wouldn't be able to defrag
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> thinkcru: Docker containers are not supported here, you need to contact the publisher of the docker image for support
[19:23] <thinkcru> pragmaticenigma that is an ubuntu docker image
[19:23] <thinkcru> i am sure this is a good place for this
[19:23] <thinkcru> anyways, how do I debug why a service is not enabled to start automatically in ubuntu?
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> thinkcru: docker images are custom made by other people. We don't have the documentation for what the publisher did in there. Therefore we can't help./
[19:24] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: i still dont get what im 'mixing up' but whatever
[19:24] <thinkcru> pragmaticenigma fine, let me ask a question differently: in ubuntu how does one debug why a service is not enabled by default upon reboot?
[19:25] <thinkcru> where do I debug this or how is this stored
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: blocks are the minimum data size a file segment must utilize on the disk. if the blocks are 4MB, a 1MB will take 4MB on the disk. An inode represents a file object, which contains meta information about the file and the location of the blocks for the file.
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> thinkcru: journald would be the place to look up logs
[19:26] <EriC^^> i know that pragmaticenigma , that's why i said he likely has a lot of small files, that aren't using up the actual physical space, but are saturating the number of default inodes the fs has
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> thinkcru: systemctl status {servicename} would tell you the status and sometimes the last log entry of failure
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: Except you can have multiple inodes associated to a single file, which is from fragmentation. So they could actually have lots of files, but because of fragmenting, too many inodes are utilized for tracking the pieces of the files
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> *lots of large files
[19:28] <sarnold> pragmaticenigma: one inode per file
[19:28] <sarnold> the usual problem with running out of inodes before storage space is usually due to too many tiny files
[19:29] <neatnik> I'm running this now: sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[19:29] <neatnik> in /, and hopefully it will give me something useful re: lots of files
[19:29] <neatnik> (but it's taking forever, heh)
[19:30] <neatnik> "sort: cannot create temporary file in ‘/tmp’: No space left on device" lol, well, so much for that
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> neatnik: Is it possible to move files from the disk onto an external drive?
[19:31] <sarnold> neatnik: ow..
[19:31] <neatnik> looks like I'll need to do that, or something similar (it's a cloud VPS thing, so I'd have to download and delete vs. copy over)
[19:33] <sarnold> neatnik: hmm... I wonder, try your command line without the | sort | in the middle -- uniq -c will do some aggregation, and maybe even give you the results you want anyway
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> sarnold: correct... I was mixed up on inodes pointing to blocks... I though 1 inode per contiguous set of blocks
[19:33] <neatnik> sarnold: brilliant, trying now
[19:34] <sarnold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjx39pHvxC/
[19:36] <Chuckfu> what is the server url
[19:36] <t00tie> hi, after installing dual-boot I still only boot to win10. I tried putting grub on /dev/sda first, then on /dev/sda2 (the only uefi partition). How do I get grub as a bootloader to actually start?
[19:37] <pragmaticenigma> #ubuntu-server Chuckfu
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | t00tie start here
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> one for you EriC^^ ^
[19:39] <t00tie> yeah, I know, uefi and grub don't work, I want lilo and sensible disk partitioning but the idiots removed it
[19:39] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: i dont think files can have multiple inodes, each inode contains the various block locations when the file is fragmented
[19:41] <EriC^^> "The disk blocks store the data for the inode. The larger the file or directory, the more disk block pointers it needs in the inode." taken from some random university lecture on ext4
[19:45] <pragmaticenigma> t00tie: The link and information that ubottu posted is how to get grub to work with UEFI ... there are settings that sometimes need to be changed in UEFI and even Windows for dual booting to work properly
[19:51] <thinkcru> can someone tell me, if I have files listed in the /etc/init.d it will run all those automatically?
[19:51] <Habbie> thinkcru, it does not
[19:53] <leftyfb> thinkcru: regardless, with modern versions of ubuntu, you should be using systemd unit files. Not init scripts.
[19:54] <Habbie> indeed
[19:59] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: assuming the docker image they are using even is setup correctly in the first place right?
[20:06] <neatnik> is it normal to have 1577861 files in /var/lib?
[20:07] <pragmaticenigma> depends on what you have in there... considering this is an unmaintained VPS instance... is it possible malicious users have gotten in there and dumped files?
[20:07] <EriC^^> neatnik: i think 17,000 for reference
[20:08] <EriC^^> *i have
[20:09] <sarnold> neatnik: that sounds like a lot
[20:09] <EriC^^> neatnik: what services are you running? where's the bulk of the files?
[20:09] <sarnold> neatnik: I've got 7k on one machine, 13k on anotrher machine
[20:09] <neatnik> lol
[20:09] <neatnik> I need to re-run that command at the top of /var/lib to find the folder that has them
[20:13] <neatnik> evidently it's a php5 directory in there
[20:13] <neatnik> ls -l  just hangs in there, lol
[20:13] <neatnik> the version of php on the server is 7, so I assume I can just nuke that entire directory?
[20:17] <neatnik> ah! found it
[20:17] <neatnik> it's a ton of session files in there
[20:19] <neatnik> ok, this is new: rm * ... "bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long"
[20:19] <neatnik> is it saying that there are too many files to delete? :P
[20:20] <kaleido> hacked by a php5 exploit :(
[20:20] <kaleido> just kidding of course
[20:20] <neatnik> it's probably a php bug
[20:20] <neatnik> this thing needs to be patched/upgraded so badly
[20:22] <neatnik> ok, it's deleting the files, and I can watch my IUse% dropping ever so slowly via df -i
[20:22] <sarnold> neatnik: oh yeah that'll do it
[20:22] <sarnold> neatnik: look around ps output, you may have some zombied or wedged rms or something
[20:23] <sarnold> neatnik: some applications can be moved to using cookies to store sessions, offload all the storage to your users.. or move to a database, where clearing up stale sessions is hopefully faster and cheaper
[20:23] <sarnold> neatnik: often these kinds of apps have a cronjob that runs every night to delete files unused more than five days or something
[20:27] <EriC^^> neatnik: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/37329/efficiently-delete-large-directory-containing-thousands-of-files
[20:27] <sarnold> (some folks just go straight to making a new filesystem)
[20:28] <EriC^^> hehe
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> php normally installs with a cron task to clean up those session files regularly
[20:33] <sarnold> depending upon how many sessions you've got and what the cronjob does, that could be catastrophically bad
[20:33] <sarnold> as neatnik can attest :)
[20:36] <pragmaticenigma> I think a lot of server hardening tutorials recommend disabling the session maker in PHP
[20:45] <neatnik> df -i now shows 4% usage. thank goodness
[20:45] <neatnik> appreciate everyone's help!
[20:46] <sarnold> neatnik: woot
[20:46] <sarnold> neatnik: one more interesting thing to add to your grafana or prometheus or whatever :)
[20:47] <neatnik> TIL what an "inode" is, and, more importantly, that you cannot install Ubuntu on a server, ignore it for several years, and expect it to magically behave perfectly the whole time
[20:48] <sarnold> so very true
[21:16] <mra90> if I do sudo rm -fr /boot while I am on live ubuntu from USB would it really remove it from that usb
[21:16] <mra90> therefore spoling it, so I won't be able to boot from this usb again?
[21:17] <oerheks> mra90, go find out.
[21:17] <oerheks> spoiler: the live usb is read-only
[21:17] <mra90> oerheks, this is bad advice
[21:17] <mra90> one should know what he is doing becfore he do it
[21:18] <oerheks> i know, you could have known too
[21:20] <mra90> so?
[21:29] <leftyfb> mra90: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[21:34] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: It isn't bad advice, as it is live-usb... it's meant to be experimented with
[21:35] <sixwheeledbeast> I thought ubuntu had some sort of "rm -rf /" protection
[21:35] <oerheks> sixwheeledbeast, yes it does
[21:37] <mra90> it doesn't throw any error or even a warning when you rm /
[21:37] <mra90> (on a live cd/usb I mean)
[21:50] <leftyfb> mra90: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[21:55] <robertparkerx> can someone help me witth some crontabs
[21:55] <leftyfb> !ask | robertparkerx
[21:55] <robertparkerx> Would this work for certbot renew every three months https://termbin.com/fm69
[21:58] <texla> What is the dock app that use show applications as its icon
[21:59] <oerheks> i read that as 45 minutes, 20 hours, ..
[22:01] <robertparkerx> Sorry I messed up
[22:01] <robertparkerx> does it run every day and will renew in three months
[22:02] <oerheks> minute (0-59), hour (0-23, 0 = midnight), day (1-31), month (1-12), weekday (0-6, 0 = Sunday).  , i guess: * * * 1,4,7,10 *
[22:02] <oerheks> starting in jan
[22:14] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: 45 20 01 */3 *
[22:15] <Habbie> that's a great way to let your certs expire before you get new ones
[22:16] <leftyfb> ^
[22:16] <Habbie> or, in more useful terms
[22:16] <Habbie> run certbot way more often than every 3 months :)
[22:16] <leftyfb> I didn't say it was a good schedule for certbot, just a valid one :)
[22:16] <Habbie> yeah i'm just subtitling :)
[22:16] <robertparkerx> what if I ran it everyday
[22:16] <Habbie> robertparkerx, i'm pretty sure that's a normal and common thing to do
[22:59] <CaptainBlackton> I've been searching far and wide for about 3 days now to find a way to have Ubuntu on my Android phone as the main OS, but I can't really seem to find a good way to do this. Ubuntu Touch for example only works for a very small number of really old devices. And there seem to be some apps to run Linux "alongside" Android, or "in" Android, etc. And then "Ubuntu for Android" seems to defunct as far as I can tell... is
[22:59] <CaptainBlackton> there a way to just install an ARM version of Ubuntu as my main OS? I'm starting to think the answer may be "no" or at least not easily, but I hope someone here has some solution that I'm just not finding!
[23:00] <jeremy31> CaptainBlackton: you would likely need something that could use the Android kernel so the hardware was supported
[23:04] <leftyfb> CaptainBlackton: you want #ubports
[23:10] <Lobao> hi im having problems here
[23:10] <Lobao> i was trying to get some commands to run on startup
[23:10] <Lobao> and now when i reboot the computer this appears
[23:10] <Lobao> systemd-shutdown 1 failed to wait for process protocol error
[23:13] <oerheks> Lobao, on what ubuntu version? and what commands and such?
[23:13] <Lobao> systemd-shutdown 1 failed to wait for process protocol error
[23:13] <Lobao> im using mint
[23:13] <Lobao> i guess its similar
[23:14] <oerheks> no, mint has its own issues
[23:14] <Lobao> oh
[23:15] <Bashing-om> !mint | Lobao
[23:15] <oerheks> and prepare with more info than this, when you ask there
[23:58] <gbit86_> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to use x11 to detect the status of the caret (for typing)?
[23:58] <gbit86_> I want to know if a textbox has been focused in a browser or not.. but to do that via a c based program.
[23:59] <gbit86_> I can detect a window/app having focus, but have yet to figure out the elements inside it. It is important to me because I am trying to fix the keymaps in linux to line up with macOS.. I can only take it so far without detecting the element being selected within an app.