, I'm actually somewhat aware of the difficulty of dealing with different hardware, through trying to get eC programs to run on different devices, including Android. I wasn't trying come off as if I think what you're doing is an easy task! But it did make me think the Ubuntu Touch project might be somewhat defunct because all of the devices seemed to be from a narrow time window of around 2013.
[02:07] <CaptainBlackton> Do you know the specific model of the Oppo 3 that you mentioned? I see F3, A3, N3, R3, K3, and Reno 3, but no plain "3"
[02:08] <CaptainBlackton> I guess I was hoping to find more of a desktop style OS for Android. Is anything like that being worked on around here?
[02:11] <CaptainBlackton> I'm not opposed to a mobile version per se, but my main reason for wanting to have Ubuntu on my phone is because I am not happy with the mobile experience I've gotten with iOS or Android. I'm not sure if that has to do with OSs getting "dumbed down" for phone, or if it's just how they decided to implement it, but I'd at least be willing try Ubuntu Touch if I could get it on the right device.
[02:19] <CaptainBlackton> I'm a pretty big evangelist of Ubuntu though. I felt like I had somewhat of a "frog in the frying pan" experience with Windows growing up, where I didn't realize how numb I had become to the constant virus scans, limitations, bugs, etc., etc. And then every few years I would try to get Linux running with various versions, but there were always some key things I couldn't find ways to do in Linux. But about 9 years
[02:19] <CaptainBlackton> ago I realized I could do everything I needed in Ubuntu, and the best way I could describe it was that I had rediscovered the joy of using a computer that I had as a teenager learning. Since then I've set up a lot of people with Ubuntu on their computers.
[02:24] <CaptainBlackton> I feel like I'm in that "frog in the frying pan" phase with my phone now, where I feel the Android water getting hotter, and I'm searching for something better, but haven't found it yet. I'm definitely interested in what you guys are working on though and how to be kept in the loop with solutions.
[02:28] <CaptainBlackton> BTW, has anyone discussed a broader approach to this problem? It sounds like a big part of the problem is the fragmentation of the Android kernels. Do you think part of the solution could be a hardware one (well, insomuch as you can call the kernel a "hardware" thing)? E.g. making a phone with open source hardware? I bet you could make a pretty awesome phone for not very much if you took off the fancy cameras, or
[02:28] <CaptainBlackton> maybe design phones to be more modular like desktop computers are. I know it doesn't fit the business model of the big phone companies, but isn't that kind of why we have the open source community in the first place, to offer an alternative to what all the big companies are selling us?
[02:31] <CaptainBlackton> I've been frustrated that the different components of the hardware for phones always seem to be linked together in terms of how high end they are. For example, if you want a phone with more RAM, it's always going to have more cores and a much fancier camera. But what if you don't need so many cores but you do need more RAM, then your stuck paying a lot of money for extra cores and cameras that you don't need.
[03:07] <owad> CaptainBlackton: Pine64's PinePhone might interest you
[04:13] <CaptainBlackton> Thank you <owad>, yes, it does interest me, although it seems it's out of stock currently. Do you know if they have plans to make a higher-spec version of that? I've actually never heard of Pine64; I'm reading their web page now.
[04:17] <Fuseteam> Captainblackton its definitely not defunct and i was not refering to the oppo, sorry for the confusion, i meant the oneplus 3
[04:19] <owad> My impression is that it will be April-ish until the next batch is ready. They haven't announced anything with higher specs.
[04:21] <Fuseteam> But yes pinephone will be the first of the "linux" phones
, oh yes, I did see the OnePlus 3T listed in the UBPorts app as one of the supported options. I had actually made a spreadsheet of all of those phones with their specs and prices to compare them, and the 3T was the only one that seemed decent. I wish there was a way to test out UBports and see if it is the kind of mobile experience I could live with vs. a desktop OS on my phone...
[05:05] <CaptainBlackton> I didn't see PinePhone listed there though, although on the PinePhone page it DOES have an image of UBPorts, implying that UBPorts is one of the options for the PinePhone...
[05:34] <owad> There's still a lot of work to do before UT (or anything) runs well on the PinePhone.
[07:11] <kenrestivo> how would i diagnose charging issues on a pinephone running ubports?
[07:37] <qtpie> Hey Guys, I wanted to port UBports for my device that is Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (whyred)
[07:38] <qtpie> Just wondering if someone has already tried this
[10:12] <Fuseteam> Captainblackton the pinephone is the main focus right now actually, there's a lot of work being done on there, there's also an rpi image fwiw
[10:13] <Fuseteam> Qtpie: you can check the halium repo to see if someone started a port
[18:42] <Beyondcr> Hello
[21:22] <Fuseteam> Welcome