[00:38] <nooodlesnodes> so whats the way to dual boot with secure boot again? partition an efi parttion then point the bios to .efi?
[00:38] <jschwalbe> any help with .local addresses not working? i can successfully resolve the .local address with nslookup but then ping fails! what gives?   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpWWZpTyZk/
[01:40] <gbit86_> Anyone know of a c program example of using gdbus to grab a simple property value and/or subscribe to changes to it?
[01:40] <gbit86_> I really want to write something fairly quickly, but in C and haven't yet found a good example that I can get up in running in a few minutes.
[01:46] <_myst_> Hi, can you guys help out please & thanks in advance. thanks inadvance, Ive just installed eos, for daughters pc. I need to configure my network, to use 192.168.1.111. Ive been randomly dropping out. at this moment I'm using 192.168.1.1.119.know have a working network on the pc, as I have been randomly dropping out
[01:46] <leftyfb> gbit86_: please stop asking. This is a bit beyond the scope of this channel. Try #ubuntu-devel
[01:46] <leftyfb> !eos | _myst_
[01:46] <gbit86_> sure, thanks.
[01:47] <_myst_> elementary
[01:47] <leftyfb> _myst_: Sorry, but we can only support Ubuntu here. Not other distros like eos.
[01:47] <_myst_> elementary is ubuntu
[01:47] <_myst_> but ill go if its an issue
[01:47] <leftyfb> _myst_: it is not Ubuntu. It is a fork of ubuntu with lots of changes we cannot support. Sorry
[01:48] <_myst_> cheers..
, thanks for that link! I will take a look! Sorry, I missed that message before with all the activity here!
[02:40] <CaptainBlackton> And BTW, does anyone know of a good IRC client for Android? I haven't found a reliable one yet.
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> CaptainBlackton: ask in the android channel
[02:41] <puff`> Good evening.  I'm trying to get an external monitor working with thinkpad t580 running ubuntu 18.  I opened Settings/Display but it's not showing the external monitor.
[02:46] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | puff`
[02:49] <puff`> leftyfb: 18,04
[02:49] <puff`> leftyfb: 18.04
[03:11] <kristian_on_linu> hi
[03:12] <kristian_on_linu> it looks like my webcam is totally dead ... T520, 18.04
[03:26] <anon>  jusbu
[03:44] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[03:44] <kristian_on_linu> my webcam is showing all black, this is ubuntu 18.10, running on a T520
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: ubuntu 18.10 is end of life
[03:45] <kristian_on_linu> I just can't get a picture anywhere
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: please install a supported version from this channels topic
[03:46] <kristian_on_linu> sorry, I was too fast there
[03:46] <kristian_on_linu> it's 18.04
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: wich kernel version are you on currently, and is your system up to date?
[03:48] <kristian_on_linu> Linux version 5.3.0-28-generic
[03:48] <kristian_on_linu> should be up to date also
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: is there light enough in your room, to make your webcam pick image up too?
[03:48] <kristian_on_linu> yeah
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> allright
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: did that webcam work on other ubuntu versions or previous kernels?
[03:50] <kristian_on_linu> this is my first install
[03:50] <kristian_on_linu> just got the computer refurbished
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: ok, can you pastebin your dmesg please?
[03:50] <kristian_on_linu> I *may* have tested it before I flushed Windows, but I can't remember 100%
[03:50] <kristian_on_linu> sure
[03:52] <kristian_on_linu> https://paste.ee/p/2gTlP
[03:53] <kristian_on_linu> here's lsusb: https://paste.ee/p/Rm5BU
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> lookin
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: seems like dmesg is recognizing webcam, but there are few errors too like these: uvcvideo 1-1.6:1.0: Entity type for entity Camera 1 was not initialized!
[03:57] <kristian_on_linu> hurm
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: you trying with cheese i presume?
[03:57] <kristian_on_linu> yes
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: could you try a test with kamoso please?
[03:58] <kristian_on_linu> installing it now
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: while we are testing around with webcam, please also open a: journalctl -f
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> never know we catch more useful errors
[03:59] <kristian_on_linu> QQmlApplicationEngine failed to load component
[03:59] <kristian_on_linu> kamoso output
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> program doesnt start?
[04:00] <kristian_on_linu> it does not
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> worked here
[04:00] <kristian_on_linu> full output coming up
[04:01] <kristian_on_linu> https://paste.ee/p/C6GpS
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: i see your bios is also from 06/14/2018 could be also good to check f there are more latest ones available
[04:01] <kristian_on_linu> it's the newest one
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: my webcam here is also a chicony, and the image is also black on cheese, when there's not enough light in the room, you sure you doublechecked that?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: in cheese preferences, make sure its also set on your chicony
[04:03] <kristian_on_linu> the camera is grayed out there
[04:05] <kristian_on_linu> it says "integrated camera" but grayed out
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> mine says: chicony USB2.0 camera
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> also greyed out
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: can you try starting cheese from terminal please
[04:06] <kristian_on_linu> I just get this: Theme parsing error: cheese.css:7:35: The style property GtkScrollbar:min-slider-length is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version
[04:06] <kristian_on_linu> does not sound critical
[04:10] <kristian_on_linu> any ideas, lotuspsychje?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: im thinking
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> kristian_on_linu: an idea could be testing another ubuntu version from a liveusb, to compare things, rule out its a kernel issue
[04:14] <kristian_on_linu> some other day
[04:14] <kristian_on_linu> morning here :)
[04:14] <kristian_on_linu> but thanks for the help
[04:14] <kristian_on_linu> see ya
[06:34] <white_magic> hey guys, does anyone know of a window manager that can handle shortcuts/action like this: alt+e => move windows to the top right corner of the screen. alt + 4 => move windows to the right half of the screen. Alt + 3 => center windows & resize to 75%
[06:36] <ZPQ> white_magic: i3?
[06:37] <white_magic> ZPQ: I suppose i3 would allow that, as well?
[06:38] <white_magic> I'm somewhat not a fan of tiling window managers - especially because what I'm looking for deprecates them somewhat
[06:38] <ZPQ> white_magic: I have never used it
[06:38] <white_magic> while maintaining the typical buttons..
[06:39] <white_magic> wow it looks like the qtile wm has been updated
[06:40] <white_magic> i think i'm going back to that
[07:32] <coffeeGhost> Hello, I think there's something wrong with the gopher client for Ubuntu. If you get to a link on certain pages you can't scroll up or down anymore.
[08:03] <Deknos> hi, i want to update the flatpak packages, but i cannot, i get a warning "Warning: org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 not installed".. any idea what it means?
[08:08] <jdosio> howdy
[08:08] <jdosio> anyone here using quassel ?
[08:09] <jdosio> i seem to be having some troble, none of my hui windows seem to work
[08:09] <jdosio> like when i right click anything the window that pops up is empty
[08:09] <jdosio> or when i click on File or View etc...
[08:10] <jdosio> anyone ever have a similar prob?
[08:16] <tomreyn> Deknos: you probably need to install this package, and probably need to find a source providing it, too.
[08:17] <tomreyn> !bug | coffeeGhost
[08:18] <tomreyn> jdosio: ^ you, too. look for existing bug reports first before you file one using ubuntu-bug.
[08:18] <Deknos> tomreyn, it seems to be a bug which will be fixed shortly "hopefully"
[08:18] <tomreyn> Deknos: so you found a bug repor ton it on luanchpad.net?
[08:18] <tomreyn> Deknos: so you found a bug report on it on launchpad.net?
[08:25] <aivit> if i want to add new files(update) to an existing tar.bz2 that was created with 'tar -cvjSf', it's 'tar -ufv'?
[08:28] <jdosio> tomreyn: which package ?
[08:30] <tomreyn> aivit: try -uvjSf
[08:30] <aivit> thanks
[08:30] <tomreyn> aivit: -f needs to be the last option since it need to follow the archive name
[08:31] <tomreyn> aivit: j indicated bzip2 compression, you specified it previously, so may need to specifiy it again
[08:31] <tomreyn> jdosio: "dpkg -S quassel"  should tell
[08:32] <tomreyn> my guess is on "quassel"
[08:32] <aivit> 'Cannot update compressed archives' tomreyn
[08:33] <tomreyn> aivit: then you'll have to append, not update
[08:33] <aivit> how do i do that?
[08:33] <tomreyn> aivit: as the man page explains ;)
[08:34] <tomreyn> !man | aivit
[08:34] <tomreyn> this is an easier task now than the previous one, i think you can work this out with a quick look at the man page.
[08:35] <aivit> so -vjSf?
[08:35] <aivit> i mean rvjSf
[08:35] <aivit> ?
[08:35] <tomreyn> sounds good to me, give it a try
[08:36] <aivit> tar -rvjSf /data/backups/bin.tar.bz2 /data/bin/ tar: Cannot update compressed archives
[08:37] <tomreyn> looks like i'm clueless, sorry.
[08:37] <jdosio> tomreyn: should tell what ? it showed all the pakages i have named quassel no ?
[08:37] <aivit> gotcha
[08:37] <tomreyn> aivit: so i guess you'll need to rebuild the archive, i.e. extract the existing one, then add to it.
[08:38] <tomreyn> aivit: so i guess you'll need to rebuild the archive, i.e. extract the existing one, then add files to the unpacked archive (directory), then re-compress it.
[08:39] <aivit> i see
[08:39] <kobelobster> Good morning to all of you. :) I have a problem where I need support, but the hard part is that I don't know WHERE it's wrong. I have a Raspberry Pi with Ubuntu Server running at my home network and a VPS with Ubuntu Server at a hosting server. The Raspberry Pi has an OpenVPN Client and the VPS an OpenVPN Server. The Client is connected to the Server (I can see it in /var/log/openvpn/openvpn-status.log) and I want to
[08:39] <kobelobster> forward requests to the VPS with Port 9000 to the VPN client. However, it always times out like it doesn't forward the request. I have net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 set in sysctl and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HFkyP973fY/ this is my before.rules of ufw. HOw do I know what is wrong?
[08:40] <tomreyn> somehow i was certain tar could just concat a new compressed archive to an existing compressed archive, but i guess i was wrong.
[08:40] <tomreyn> aivit: ^
[08:40] <aivit> i'll come up with another way to backup
[08:40] <tomreyn> jdosio: dpkg -S shows packages you have installed that contain files named "quassel"
[08:41] <tomreyn> jdosio: see -S / --search in the dpkg-query(1) man page
[08:42] <jdosio> what am i looking for though ?
[08:43] <jdosio> like i see all of the packages
[08:44] <tomreyn> jdosio: you asked "which package?" which i think you asked meaning to understand which package you should look for existing bug reports for, and exeventually file a bug report against?
[08:44] <jdosio> ah
[08:44] <jdosio> gotcha
[08:45] <tomreyn> tomreyn: dpkg -S $(which quassel)     should tell you which package provides the "quassel" command
[08:45] <tomreyn> jdosio: ^ hehe, i'm talking to myself already
[08:47] <Deknos> tomreyn, no i asked in #flatpak
[08:47] <tomreyn> jdosio: once you found out the (binary) package this way, you can look at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/quassel (this is for "bionic"=18.04 LTS), to find out the "Source (package)". source packages are what bugs are filed and tracked against, and what binary packages (those you download and install most of the time) are built from.
[08:49] <kobelobster> re
[08:49] <kobelobster> hope no one answered me yet and i missed it :D
[08:49] <kobelobster> since it's a bigger topic i created a serverfault question: https://serverfault.com/questions/1003256/forward-requests-for-specific-port-to-vpn-client
[08:50] <tomreyn> Deknos: i see, so this may suggest it's a bug in flatpak itself, upstream, which may not get fixed in ubuntu until either you file a bug report against ubuntu about it (unless someone else already did) or a new ubuntu release becomes available which will contain the fixed upstream version - and you upgrade to this newer ubuntu release.
[08:51] <Deknos> yeah, it's a bug upstream already noticed. it will be fixed 'hopefully' when flatpak is updated.
[08:51] <Deknos> therefore i did not file any report in ubuntu.
[08:52] <tomreyn> jdosio: so note how it says " [ Source: quassel  ] " on top of this page, which means the *source* package is also called "quassel". now knowing this you can click on the "Bug Reports" link on the same page and look for an existing, matching bug report. or, if there is none there, you can file one against the source package by running, in a temrinal, ubuntu-bug quassel
[08:53] <tomreyn> Deknos: my point is that upstream bug fixes don't get backported to existing ubuntu releases unless someone points out the need for it, and someone else actually does it.
[08:53] <tomreyn> (could also be the same person)
[08:54] <jdosio_> weird
[08:54] <jdosio> a
[08:55] <jdosio> darn what'd i do
[08:55] <jdosio_> a
[08:55] <tomreyn> Deknos: i.e. you won't get this fixed "flatpak" version until you upgrade to a newer ubuntu release which comes with the version of the "flatpak" command which contains this fix. another approach may ber to use a PPA which makes newer versions available on your existing ubuntu release.
[08:56] <Deknos> hrm, thanks for the hint.
[08:56] <Deknos> i'll think i make an PPA for it.
[08:56] <tomreyn> jdosio / jdosio_: i don't think we have the means to tell you. you're currently connected here with two separate clients from the same IP address
[08:58] <tomreyn> Deknos: if this was new to you then "make a PPA" is probably not what you want to do, since it's not *that* easy to get started with packaging .deb's, the bug report may be much easier to do.
[08:58] <coffeeGhost> ubottu: i'll try and get around that...
[08:59] <tomreyn> !ppa | Deknos: you could look for an existing PPA, though, see the link at the end of this
[08:59] <tomreyn> more like the middle, this lets you search PPAs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:02] <tomreyn> kobelobster: are those actually tcp packets, not udp or even lower layers?
[09:02] <kobelobster> tomreyn, how do I find this out?
[09:03] <tomreyn> kobelobster: personally, if i had to setup a VPN nowadays between endpoints i control myself i'd be using wireguard nowadays - so much easier.
[09:03] <JebJed> f
[09:03] <kobelobster> i chose openvpn bc a co-worker used it as well and he could assisit me, however it's sunday and he can't :D
[09:04] <Deknos> i think doing ppas for existing packages (if there aren't too many dependencies) is not very hard. years back i did some debian packaging for my last company.
[09:04] <tomreyn> kobelobster: you'd find out which traffic you're using by either inspecting traffic you generate (tcpdump/tshark/wireshark) or, maybe better to start with, by reviewing your openvpn configuration and actually ensuring you understang what these options mean.
[09:04] <Deknos> but looking for existing ppas is definitely easier and always the first step ^^
[09:05] <tomreyn> Deknos: ah cool, sorry for assuming that packaging would be more difficult to you, looks like i guessed wrong there.
[09:06] <kobelobster> tomreyn, you mean access {ip}:9000 and check with wireshark what's incoming on the server?
[09:06] <Deknos> tomreyn, no problem! i think you are a very nice helpful person :)
[09:07] <Deknos> and thank you for your help :)
[09:07] <Deknos> people like you are always underappreciated :)
[09:08] <tomreyn> kobelobster: rather use openvpn to encapsulate traffic and see how it tries to do so.
[09:08] <littlekimmy> how do I open .AppImage file
[09:08] <littlekimmy> .Appimage file is not opening
[09:08] <tomreyn> Deknos: :) you're welcome, especially after those words.
[09:09] <kobelobster> tomreyn, i think i should take your second advice point and ensure understanding what it means since i don't really understand 50% of what you're saying :D
[09:09] <tomreyn> kobelobster: yes, it's certainly a better approach to understand your existing configurations first of all, if you'll continue using openvpn (which is generally fine)
[09:11] <kobelobster> tomreyn, i mean i'm not married to openvpn. privacytools.io also recommends wireguard. it's just that i'm totally new in this part of linux. i mostly use linux for software development, but then linux is just the os to run software on, not an os to run services on. and i simply wanted to get a raspberry pi locally running fast with access from outside and hoped it would be done by following a simple digitalocean tutorial
[09:12] <kobelobster> however, it feels like something has to be wrong with firewall settings right? since the client IS connected to the server, so at that end, everything seems okay?
[09:13] <tomreyn> littlekimmy: if this is an ubuntu system, i'd rather look for a different packaging format for the software you're trying to install, or even consider a different software which is available in the more common packaging formats. if those really don't seem like suitable options, you can read up here on how to make use of the .appimage file:  https://itsfoss.com/use-appimage-linux/
[09:15] <tomreyn> kobelobster: hmm, maybe i didn'T read thoroughly, let me re-read what you posted to serverfault.
[09:19] <kobelobster> tomreyn, thahnk you for your help and support so far
[09:19] <tomreyn> kobelobster: is 37.201.227.34:9000 the public ip address of your fritzbox?
[09:19] <kobelobster> tomreyn, yes and the client connected to the vpn server
[09:20] <kobelobster> at least, that's why i used it
[09:20] <kobelobster> you can see the same ip in the openvpn client clist and the before.rules of ufw
[09:20] <tomreyn> kobelobster: but these ufw firewall rules you posted are configured on the VPS which is hosted soemwhere else?
[09:21] <kobelobster> Correct. So I have a raspberry Pi at home with a vpn client and a vps SERVER (with the ufw rules) somewhere else
[09:21] <kobelobster> And I want to forward any requests to the vps to port 9000 to the raspberry pi, i.e. to the vpn client
[09:21] <kobelobster> tomreyn, I don't have a static/public ipv4 address, that's why I'm going the alternative route through the vpn
[09:22] <tomreyn> so unless i'm misunderstanding it you're trying, on the VPS, to rereourte ingress traffic to its port 9000 to the fritzbox, but you'r enot doing this through the vpn but through the internet
[09:23] <kobelobster> Yes, you're correct about what I'm trying.
[09:23] <tomreyn> 37.201.227.34 is a public ip address. if you want to forward traffic through the vpn you'd rather forward it to an RFC1918 ip address
[09:24] <tomreyn> so probably to 10.8.0.6
[09:24] <kobelobster> tomreyn, you mean the `--to-destionation` parameter?
[09:24] <tomreyn> yes
[09:24] <tomreyn> and i think that port forwarding shouldn't be needed on the vpn client.
[09:25] <tomreyn> you shouldn't see inbound connections anywhere but through the VPN connection the client has established towards the server
[09:25] <kobelobster> I took the answer from here: https://superuser.com/a/928583/276561 and they talked about clients1 vpn address. wouldn't they also have used 10.8.0.x in the example? but i will try it out. do i have to resetart ufw someway? I'm always just doing disable/enable
[09:27] <tomreyn> the approach you took there makes me think that you may not yet fully understand how traffic is encapsulated in a VPN, with packets relayed through a virtual 'LAN'
[09:27] <kobelobster> you are correct about that
[09:27] <kobelobster> :D
[09:28] <tomreyn> then i would recommend you read up more on the underlying concepts because understanding those first is crucial to be able to setup the networking properly.
[09:28] <kobelobster> you're probably right. like i said. i was HOPING I could follow a simple tutorial and that's all
[09:28] <tomreyn> this approach works for many things, but not necessarily for VPNs
[09:29] <kobelobster> same way i had hoped changing it to 10.8.0.6 would've fixed now
[09:29] <tomreyn> there's also networking where there are folks who can probably explain this better than i could
[09:30] <kobelobster> you did a good job. thank you for your help
[09:30] <littlekimmy> in ubuntu username is different from my name
[09:30] <kobelobster> i have friends i can ask. i just didn't want to bother them on sunday
[09:30] <littlekimmy> so how do i know both the names, not the hostname
[09:30] <littlekimmy> I see ubuntu while installing asked me for two "names" apart from the hostname
[09:31] <tomreyn> kobelobster: waiting another day and getting them to draw some images for you to better understand the networking architecture may be a good approach then. ;)
[09:31] <littlekimmy> some one tell me as two names are different and creating confusion
[09:33] <littlekimmy> in ubuntu there is user@host but there is another name that ubuntu asked me while installing, so what's the cmd to know that
[09:33] <tomreyn> littlekimmy: hmm, i think when you install ubuntu it'll ask you for the system user you'll be logging in as, and it may (depending on the type of installation / ubuntu variant you're installing - which one is it?) also ask for a system hostname, and maybe a domain name.
[09:34] <tomreyn> so which ubuntu variant and version did you install there?
[09:41] <littlekimmy> ubuntu 19.10
[09:41] <littlekimmy> getent passwd user; it shows the name palli, in gecos field
[09:46] <tomreyn> littlekimmy: oh gecos, that's the "human friendly" name.
[09:46] <littlekimmy> does that name exist in arch as well
[09:47] <littlekimmy> or is it unique to only ubuntu
[09:47] <tomreyn> i.e. that's where you'd put your real full name in, which can have spaces and other characters which are not allowed on the system user field
[09:47] <tomreyn> you'd ask arch for arch support
[09:48] <littlekimmy> ./ledger-live-desktop-1.20.0-linux-x86_64.AppImage
[09:48] <littlekimmy> /tmp/.mount_ledgerkXAS55/ledger-live-desktop: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:56] <tomreyn> littlekimmy: i don't think we can support this software here since it's not part of ubuntu
[09:56] <tomreyn> seek support with where you got it from
[10:12] <littlekimmy> how to install libgtk for ubuntu
[10:13] <littlekimmy> are there ubuntu tools which help me locate the package name for libgtk
[10:15] <tomreyn> see above
[10:16] <tomreyn> generally, you cn use "apt-file" to search for packages providing a given file name.
[10:19] <littlekimmy> Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[10:19] <littlekimmy> what's the pkg for that module
[10:21] <oerheks> if you bing/google on that error, sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[10:24] <littlekimmy> oerheks: which cmd on ubuntu to use to find that lib
[10:24] <littlekimmy> without using google
[10:25] <oerheks> littlekimmy, tomreyn answered that
[10:26] <littlekimmy> you mean apt-file search 'canberra'
[10:28] <oerheks> if you experience a bad appimage that does not include all libs, file a bug there?
[10:28] <littlekimmy> how could appimage be not selfcontained
[10:29] <littlekimmy> I see the error disappeared after installing those libs
[10:29] <oerheks> appimages are not in our repos, so no clue
[10:29] <oerheks> snaps ftw
[11:47] <littlekimmy> https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/create-multiline-and-auto-resize-text-fields/
[11:47] <littlekimmy> in evince i want to do that, wrap lines
[11:48] <littlekimmy> I don't want in evince to scroll horizontally
[11:51] <tomreyn> evince is a pdf reader, not a pdf form generator.
[11:51] <littlekimmy> so which app
[11:52] <littlekimmy> i can't read if i have to scroll left and dright on small screen
[11:52] <littlekimmy> so it's not a reader to me
[11:52] <oerheks> libreoffice can make pdf
[11:52] <littlekimmy> then wat, i get the same pdf back
[11:52] <tomreyn> you can change the zoom factor in evince
[11:52] <littlekimmy> yes more zoom = more scrolling left and right
[11:53] <tomreyn> and the opposite is also true
[11:53] <littlekimmy> small screen cant see
[11:53] <littlekimmy> maybe LO is the solution but what forms has to do with it
[11:54] <tomreyn> what you pointed to was about pdf forms
[11:56] <littlekimmy> oerheks: ? LO?
[11:56] <littlekimmy> what did you mean
[11:57] <oerheks> really?
[11:57] <oerheks> i did not type LO, you did
[11:57] <littlekimmy> hi
[13:21] <supay> hey, i'm on a thinkpad x1 carbon 6g. when i look at the sensors section on hardinfo, i find that there's only one fan at 0 rpm. my laptop is getting really hot. i'm on pop os (an ubuntu 18.04 derivative). please help!
[13:24] <oerheks> supay, sorry, we do not support pop os, join #system76 ?
[13:25] <jeremy31> supay: contact people at Pop OS
[13:25] <oerheks> ( here on #freenode)
[13:25] <supay> ah, cool. thank you oerheks :)
[13:42] <daedeloth> i'm trying to figure out why i'm having ssl issues on raspbian. /etc/ssl/certs is populated with certificates, but they are pems instead of hashed ending with 0's
[13:43] <oerheks> raspbian is not ubuntu, try #raspbian ?
[13:48] <daedeloth> true, but perhaps that certificate issue is a known issue in all debian based systems
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:54] <leftyfb> daedeloth: try #rapberrypi
[13:54] <daedeloth> been there too
[13:54] <leftyfb> ok, good luck
[14:23] <Chuckfu> does port 587 have to  be used by some application to be open
[14:24] <oerheks> Chuckfu, you have been on this for days?
[14:24] <oerheks> telnet into mailserver thingy
[14:24] <Chuckfu> I know it has me stumped
[14:25] <Chuckfu> no firewall and still can't get open
[14:28] <Chuckfu> can not telnet into it and for the life of me can not find what is blocking it
[14:28] <oerheks> maybe your provider does not allow ports to be, open 1-1024
[14:28] <Chuckfu> not the ISP this is cox business account they don't blcok anything
[14:29] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: do you currently have anything listening on port 587?
[14:29] <Chuckfu> I mastodon application is try to send but nothing else, could NGINX block it
[14:30] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: stop
[14:30] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: sudo lsof -i :587
[14:30] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: do you currently have anything listening on port 587?
[14:31] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: HOW is mastodan trying to send email? Using what MTA?
[14:31] <Chuckfu> after doing lsof -i :587 command line just reappears no data
[14:32] <Chuckfu> mastodon uses sidekiq
[14:32] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: sidekiq is not an MTA
[14:32] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: Contact mastodan for support
[14:34] <sentiment> I have an old GPU, the Radeon 4650. And I'd like to have OpenCL support running on Ubuntu 19.10. What options do I have?
[14:34] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: you need to figure out what MTA mastodan is trying to use to send email. You can only find that through mastodan and/or it's documentation. From there, we can test if you can manually send email using that MTA as a troubleshooting step. Beyond that, your issue is with mastodan and not ubuntu. From the information you have given so far, nothing points to anthing being blocked
[14:35] <tomreyn> sentiment: mesa-opencl-icd i'd think, though i haven't tried this with radeon, just amdgpu
[14:35] <Chuckfu> ok thanks guys, I get stuck and can't give up, but will investigate further
[14:35] <oerheks> sentiment, too old, openradeon wants ati 5xxx or higher?
[14:35] <oerheks> !ati
[14:35] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: contact mastodan
[14:35] <Chuckfu> 10/4
[14:36] <sentiment> yeah it's radeon and it's not GCN
[14:36] <oerheks> i think you would have just 2D, no great youtube card
[14:37] <sentiment> though the Windows driver has OpenCL support
[14:37] <tomreyn> sudo apt install clinfo
[14:37] <sentiment> tomreyn I've tried that and it reported no OpenCL support
[14:38] <oerheks> .. as i thought so
[14:38] <tomreyn> sentiment: that's after installing mesa-opencl-icd ?
[14:38] <sentiment> using the open source radeon driver
[14:38] <sentiment> nope
[14:38] <tomreyn> well, without an opencl implementation you don'T have opencl support, that's true
[14:40] <tomreyn> https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumCompute/
[14:41] <sentiment> thanks, I'll try it at home and report back
[14:42] <sentiment> is that a reference table for that mesa framework?
[14:43] <sentiment> because it says r700 radeon is not supported yet (my card)
[14:43] <oerheks> r700 is pretty old, yes
[14:44] <tomreyn> right that's indeed just before the named generations, it wont do opencl, i think
[14:44] <oerheks> ati 2xxx to 4xxx, no go
[14:45] <tomreyn> "Only partial OpenCL support is possible, support through vertex shaders. "
[14:45] <oerheks> my 5450 does dual screen, 2x youtube fine
[14:56] <deepfield> Hello. Does anyone have any tips or can point me in the right direction to set up secure public computers at business? We have been using windows on them and people always seem to find a way to damage them.
[14:58] <leftyfb> !ot | deepfield
[15:01] <deepfield> Ah okay. Sorry
[15:03] <deepfield> I am both registered and identified though?
[15:03] <GreyXor> Hi everyone, my ethernet interface (wlp3s0) get an ipv6 but not an ipv4. someone can help ? i don't know how to debug that (ubuntu server 19.10)
[15:04] <__Milencho> GreyXor, may be u want to disable ipv6
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> deepfield, This channel is dedicated to offering support for existing installations of current Ubuntu OSes and the software provided through official Ubuntu software repositories. It is not an appropriate place for discussions or asking for recommendations about software.
[15:05] <GreyXor> __Milencho, no why ? i want and need ipv6 for this server. my problem is not about ipv6 it's about ipv4. interface is up but i didn't get ipv4
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> deepfield, please join us in either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss as those areas are more appropriate for your topic
[15:06] <deepfield> Okay I see. Thanks!
[15:07] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/secure-ubuntu-kiosk maybe a help
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> GreyXor, Have you verified that your DHCP server is providing IPv4 addresses? Have you checked its logs?
[15:08] <GreyXor> pragmaticenigma, DHCP server correctly giving ipv4 to my other computers
[15:08] <GreyXor> no i didn't check logs, idk which ? dmesg, NetworkManager ?
[15:11] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[15:12] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I used a BTRFS partition to install Ubuntu and now i have issue with full disk, but df show me i use only 30% :/
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> GreyXor, have you verified that your DHCP server can provision an IPv4 from its available pool? That you haven't somehow restricted the number of IP addresses available due to security?
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> UndefinedIsNotAF, That would appear that you have used up all available inodes for your drive. Too many files
[15:14] <TryHard01> Hey all.. I'm not familiar with hardware troubleshooting on Ubuntu.  I ran lshw -C network, and I see   *-network UNCLAIMED
[15:14] <TryHard01>        description: Ethernet controller
[15:14] <TryHard01>        product: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.. I'm pretty sure this is the NIC I want to get working...any ideas? :)
[15:14] <UndefinedIsNotAF> pragmaticenigma: how i can bypass this limit ? Im working on project with a lot of files
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> UndefinedIsNotAF, it isn't something that can be changed. It's part of the configuration when the drive was formatted
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> UndefinedIsNotAF, You can verify if inode is the problem by using "df -i"
[15:23] <tomreyn> TryHard01: run this, post the url:   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:24] <tomreyn> TryHard01: that's unless this system is currentl yoffline
[15:24] <TryHard01> tomreyn, I'm online, have 2 NIC's and a WiFi adapter, just this one NIC is the one I want to use
[15:24] <TryHard01> thanks trying that
[15:27] <TryHard01> https://termbin.com/5zyb here it is
[15:27] <TryHard01> I'm using Ubuntu 19.10
[15:30] <oerheks> looking for ubuntu + network + 10ec:8125 ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/1043384/ethernet-not-working-well-in-ubuntu-18-04-on-new-desktop
[15:30] <tomreyn> TryHard01: so two of those have drivers loaded
[15:30] <oerheks> sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms and reboot
[15:31] <grady> i have a text file and i need to copy lots of  line entries from that file to many text files. and these textfiles need to match with the original text file line entry, like filename in it. how i can do that? :)
[15:32] <TryHard01> tomreyn, how can you tell which have loaded? and of course...how do I get the other one to load
[15:32] <oerheks> grady, find & replace?
[15:33] <grady> related: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56650446/instagram-media-json-how-to-add-them-to-exif
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> grady, That's offtopic here... please look for a programming channel or ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:34] <tomreyn> TryHard01: "kernel driver in use" shows that a kernel module (driver) is in use, so loaded. it doesn't immediately mean it works but a module would have to be loaded for it to be functional. and then you have the non-intel realtek chipset NIC which has no kernel driver in use.
[15:35] <tomreyn> TryHard01: i.e. the one in PCI slot 06:00.0 with PCI ID 10ec:8125
[15:35] <TryHard01> tomreyn, gotcha.
[15:35] <leftyfb> grady: try #bash
[15:36] <grady> k
[15:36] <TryHard01> tomreyn, how do I get the driver for the Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8125] installed?
[15:37] <tomreyn> TryHard01: oerheks already provided a suggestion
[15:37] <Kon-> So this is interesting. All of a sudden my system is telling me /home/ is out of disk space and things are behaving rather oddly. Should have at least 100 GB still available
[15:37] <Kon-> Should I try a restart or is there something I should check first?
[15:37] <leftyfb> Kon-: sudo apt install ncdu ; sudo ncdu /home
[15:38] <TryHard01> tomreyn, oerheks thanks!! sorry I wasnt' sure that was directed at me, I'm not familiar with the command sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms
[15:38] <TryHard01> will do tho
[15:38] <oerheks> :-)
[15:38] <tomreyn> oerheks: are you sure this covers this chipset, though?
[15:39] <oerheks> the posts are saying it incorrectly indentifies as r8169 ..
[15:39] <tomreyn> oh that would explain it, sorry i missed that part
[15:39] <oerheks> found 3 simular osts..
[15:39] <oerheks> c/posts
[15:39] <Kon-> Thanks leftyfb, apparently my Steam error.log blew up to 107 GB
[15:40] <leftyfb> Kon-: you might want to address that
[15:40] <Kon-> Yes
[15:56] <Kon-> Alright I'm hoping 15 minutes is long enough to run rm on 107 GB
[16:03] <leftyfb> probably would have been quicker to just truncate it
[16:07] <Kon-> Thanks for the heads up on ncdu leftyfb - great utility
[16:07] <vlm> if running a job in forground,is it a way to background it properly? I used ctrl + z,though when i list jobs it says stopped
[16:08] <leftyfb> Kon-: future refrence, it probably would have been quicker to truncate the log file as opposed to delete it
[16:08] <leftyfb> Kon-: like:   > steam.log # probably as root
[16:09] <Kon-> Good to know, thanks
[16:09] <leftyfb> vlm: screen. Or create it as a service.
[16:09] <ducasse> vlm: ctrl+z then 'bg'
[16:09] <vlm> i ment when its already running in forgound though
[16:09] <vlm> ohh nice thanks
[16:13] <ducasse> vlm: you can then use 'fg' to get it back in the foreground
[16:17] <vlm> ducasse: thanks for help
[16:17] <ducasse> yw
[16:26] <brogod> Hello
[16:26] <brogod> I just installed ubuntu
[16:26] <brogod> kinda sexy
[16:57] <aen3> Hi guys, just got a new Huawei Matebook D14  (AMD Ryzen 5 3500U + Radeon™ Vega 8 Graphics) and tried to bring a right OS to it.
[16:58] <aen3> Seems like 18.04 goes black-screenish during the boot, even with novideau, nomodeset kernel options.
[16:58] <aen3> Any ideas what's the best way to follow it further to make the issue solved?
[16:59] <oerheks> such new hardware, try 19.10 ?
[16:59] <aen3> yup, that's what I'm downloading
[16:59] <aen3> however I always stayed LTSish
[17:00] <oerheks> well, normally we suggest that too, but your hardware needs a newer kernel and such
[17:01] <sixwheeledbeast> I can't see the hardware being an issue. Is this the live image going black screen?
[17:02] <aen3> I just made like a bootable flash drive with the 18.04 image from ubuntu
[17:03] <aen3> so it goes black like in Trial and Install modes
[17:03] <aen3> prolly kernel differs and 19.10 will help a little
[17:03] <aen3> this laptop doesn't make sence without the proper os
[17:03] <oerheks> some forum posts, linux widde, say something about adding a boot parameter; GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="amd_iommu=on iommu=pt"
[17:05] <aen3> thanks, gonna look real quick what those vars mean and try it as well
[17:05] <aen3> haven't seen that during googling
[17:07] <sixwheeledbeast> before you go down a rabbit hole check the live image works on something else.
[17:15] <e2> hello, then i installed ubuntu, i can type username and password
[17:15] <e2> i can not
[17:15] <e2> who are you?
[17:15] <aen3> sixwheeledbeast it works for sure through
[17:16] <aen3> on an oldish Intel based Lenovo
[17:16] <e2> not log in
[17:16] <e2> installation
[17:16] <e2> type name
[17:16] <e2> password
[17:16] <e2> i can not type
[17:16] <ducasse> !enter | e2
[17:17] <sixwheeledbeast> aen3: so have you tried 18.04 and 19.10?
[17:17] <e2> can not type login and password in installation  ubuntu 18.04
[17:18] <aen3> no, I only tried 18.04, 19.10 is downloading =)
[17:18] <oerheks> e2 click the username first, then type password?
[17:18] <e2> yes
[17:19] <leftyfb> e2: reinstall ubuntu
[17:19] <e2> no simfols
[17:19] <e2> i use reintallation
[17:19] <leftyfb> e2: what language do you speak?
[17:19] <e2> when type english is main lang
[17:19] <leftyfb> e2: what is your main language?
[17:19] <e2> ru
[17:19] <leftyfb> !ru | e2
[17:21] <ioria> aen3, 18.04.4 and 19.10 ship the same kernel and graphical stack
[17:23] <aen3> then most likely it won't help
[17:24] <ioria> aen3, try it none the less , if it fails boot with 'noapic'
[17:25] <ioria> aen3, and SB disabled
[17:25] <sixwheeledbeast> aen3: If it's an iommu issue you can try disabling that in your bios. Would be helpful to remove "quiet splash" so you can see whats happening at boot too.
[17:25] <aen3> I tried to remove quite splash...
[17:25] <aen3> nothing arrived
[17:58] <aen3> darn it, you were so right about checking the USB stick in another laptop
[17:58] <aen3> everything is working like a charm
[17:58] <aen3> right after I replaced USB stick with another one of 18.04
[17:58] <UndefinedIsNotAF> aen3: the 18.04 is not EOL?
[17:59] <ducasse> UndefinedIsNotAF: 18.04 is supported for 5 years
[18:03] <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
[18:03] <aen3> I suppose I'd stay 18.04 till May
[18:03] <aen3> and then most of us move to 20.04
[18:07] <UndefinedIsNotAF> ok ducasse
[18:08] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I want to know if a computer is Ubuntu friendly: This one is Ubuntu friendly? thanks
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> This one
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Apple-MacBook-Air-Core-i5-13-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-Early-2015-A-Grade-6-M-Warranty/383421715758?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5945b7152e:m:mjYkbccYQMfKT68ZmIICQzw&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qVrcuMLaWTbmcq2iT244sdqFe1StJkLk6DwI6%2FzOL8pccu6P7%2BWGJezifk4gdU3383PTMIs9QqA%2BD9MW5wl2vRUfS6ittwfUZyH3ID9%2F4bGn5fIhuLfIY1k0WpnX75ol1kmY7b%2FVsc0tLwOq7oIxPrUeb%2B5fXjaNs08rPXgkx9Rewz
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> xlIVVqzaX1j1qXUJsAlpL7ukgcZJe1T5JVESf0yLEmrCzHbia3ebl%2FFBhYrRzc8pZUuyVsVLbfiPeponzpiZhhLhjRlAeNYfuUehD9L8gQLl5wiUJ2UvVeM%2FEkGVE0E7dJezrzDSavcTPQdNf%2F1QG0Fg926yF8h3HvCw8UlArpSKyU4j%2Ft0VlkMYSsA7k3pnFnVVe%2FY%2B%2Bd%2FpZwVofpMJFBtXRL9Gz%2FqSDXo1Q5ZzmPW9rjkoJenb2GgCQ56RyN4yX9m3ec2hN1CUCpShmhDmyiyVsXqKow8TxBd38IZvYrrxc1u5LliqiPJwMEdyS8CU%2Fm1Ij1IVxy4%2B%2BCUyynq0fFKmSh5aBItl66Z0YwxYs6t91pRuzPejRkfWd
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> %2B8NNVPji0dRxirThJaZvAuNwW0dbce3CtuBS%2B%2BLje0a6pDyQKwXEbGR0gpxaXz0PPeb%2BXWPq%2FktKEjUN733dzGY1K1hX%2BKL8rk5qzQlCUQpFcABk6JPJbSTBItOTVnTLRtdWddD%2BSXy2BmS9fKfJUW98MCu1vovYgsBHAtL6twoWtssVW%2Fkhpe3TGT17%2BS%2BZM2awTU%2BI5RbF%2F5U7ze4W0wdz4yE%3D&checksum=3834217157580dce86c0dc5d43508828229eab36ec22
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> oups
[18:09] <UndefinedIsNotAF> sorry for the long link
[18:10] <UndefinedIsNotAF> ducasse:
[18:10] <UndefinedIsNotAF> oups
[18:10] <UndefinedIsNotAF> sorry for the link
[18:11] <UndefinedIsNotAF> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Apple-MacBook-Air-Core-i5-13-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-Early-2015-A-Grade-6-M-Warranty/383421715758 This one is good for Ubuntu or not?
[18:11] <rdelfin> UndefinedIsNotAF: i'm not sure about this particular model but i can say that macbooks and macbook airs in general don't have many issues running ubuntu
[18:12] <UndefinedIsNotAF> rdelfin: and if i run Ubuntu inside the OSX, ill have no issue at all?
[18:12] <UndefinedIsNotAF> except the OSX RAM usage for nothing
[18:12] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I can spawn a virtualbox inside the OSX and do Ubuntu stuff inside
[18:12] <rdelfin> there's usually two issues i've come up against: iirc apple has some strange locks that stop you from booting into the usb which you need to dissable, and also the wifi drivers sometimes are not included in ubuntu, so you need to find them, but they're easy to find
[18:13] <rdelfin> UndefinedIsNotAF: oh wait, you want to run as a vm?
[18:13] <rdelfin> yeah you should be perfectly fine fine
[18:13] <UndefinedIsNotAF> rdelfin: yeah i dont want to mess with the original system and have UEFI/BIOS stuff
[18:13] <rdelfin> s/fine fine/fine/
[18:13] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: I'd highly recommend saving a lot of cash and getting a normal computer vs going the iFruit route
[18:13] <UndefinedIsNotAF> what is the iFruit route?
[18:13] <mouses> but it will probably work on that Air with a fair amount of effort
[18:13] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: Using apple hardware
[18:14] <mouses> just get a real laptop
[18:14] <mouses> hell, get a chromebook
[18:14] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: apple computer are not "normal computer", for you?
[18:14] <rdelfin> shots fired
[18:14] <UndefinedIsNotAF> are you saying that I'm a not "normal guy"?
[18:14] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: Overpriced, pain in the butt, tons of workarounds needed
[18:14] <mouses> etc - but you do you
[18:14] <UndefinedIsNotAF> ok
[18:14] <UndefinedIsNotAF> i dont like pain in the butt, but  I love apple computer
[18:15] <UndefinedIsNotAF> rdelfin: thanks by the way
[18:15] <rdelfin> no problem :D
[18:15] <UndefinedIsNotAF> rdelfin: ill go for the virtualbox solution
[18:15] <mouses> Well, you should be okay from what I am reading.  You'll have to put in a bunch of effort vs out of the box working.
[18:15] <mouses> Oh, if you are just wanting to run ubuntu in a VM - does not matter
[18:15] <mouses> that runs on anything
[18:15] <rdelfin> best of luck. if you want to go down the dual boot route too, you'll likely be fine, and you'll have a lot of fun for sure
[18:15] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: find me a Lenovo Thinkpad in carbon for the same price and ok, ill go for a "normal computer", ok ? :)
[18:16] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: Lenovo Ideapad y510p
[18:16] <UndefinedIsNotAF> rdelfin: ok :)
[18:16] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: ideapad are crap, no? only Thinkpad is good
[18:16] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: You can get them refurbed for the same price, and you'll get more ram, a better cpu, etc
[18:16] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: that's silly
[18:16] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: ideapads are amazing
[18:16] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Thinkpad + Macbook pro = cool computers
[18:17] <mouses> my point is: when purchasing hardware, think of specs and compatibility over 'omg everyone says this is the best!!one!'
[18:17] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: i dont want a better cpu, i want a lighted apple on my grey computer. The ideapad doesnt have an apple with backlight on it :/ thats the hard truth, dude
[18:17] <mouses> oh, so it's just a vanity thing
[18:17] <Ben64> honesty at least
[18:18] <mouses> in that case, for sure - go that route.  You should be fine.
[18:18] <mouses> Ben64: That's the most honest answer I've ever seen to that, really.
[18:18] <UndefinedIsNotAF> :)
[18:18] <mouses> 'I want people in the coffee shop to think I am cool'
[18:18] <UndefinedIsNotAF> yea, i want to look cool in the train too
[18:18] <mouses> then you have to install Kali on it and open up 15 terminals and run hollywood
[18:18] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: This is for you totally - https://itsfoss.com/hollywood-hacker-screen/
[18:19] <Ben64> needs more aafire
[18:19] <UndefinedIsNotAF> with leather jacket a macbook on the hand is cool, woma
[18:19] <UndefinedIsNotAF> womans like this
[18:19] <UndefinedIsNotAF> anyway
[18:19] <UndefinedIsNotAF> thats a little off-topic
[18:19] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: Anyway, so you don't really need much help and are mostly trolling :P
[18:19] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: yea i need this hacker screen too, ill uses a matrix theme for my terminal and my text editor
[18:20] <mouses> hey, fake it until you make it
[18:20] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: that's true!
[18:20] <mouses> xD
[18:20] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I'm not an hacker, i just cracked my WEP router, easy with Kali
[18:21] <UndefinedIsNotAF> WEP is so weak
[18:21] <oerheks> guys, take this to -offtopic
[18:24] <mouses> UndefinedIsNotAF: who the heck uses WEP anymore?  And if it's 'your' router why would you need to 'crack it'?
[18:29] <UndefinedIsNotAF> mouses: for knowing how to do it, for the challenge
[18:30] <UndefinedIsNotAF> because its illegal to do it on a router that is not yours
[18:30] <mouses> pretty worthless knowledge, as WEP is not used anymore on anything
[18:31] <mouses> and you're not going to learn much by firing up aircrack-ng and following a guide
[18:31] <mouses> but this is all very off topic, so I will bow out :)  Best of luck!
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> mouses, please ... take this to -offtopic
[20:28] <jayjo> I'm using keepassxc on my ubuntu desktop and when I update passwords that are stored on google drive I can't get the file to sync. Is there a way to force a sync of the database file?
[20:31] <oerheks> sounds like you updates googles password too?
[20:32] <UndefinedIsNotAF> jayjo: Im doing this kind of stuff on dropbox/Cosycloud/Box
[20:33] <UndefinedIsNotAF> jayjo: Google drive is just pain in the ass for the usage you mentioned, use a proper tool
[20:36] <pragmaticenigma> jayjo, Do you close keepassxc after you make your updates?
[20:43] <sixwheeledbeast> It will be read only if the database is still open.
[21:57] <Jeffrey_f> can anyone recommend a multi-OS boot for USB?  Should be easy to manage and have a GUI
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Jeffrey_f: Peruse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 for some ideas.
[22:13] <Jeffrey_f> Bashing-om, anything newer than 2011=
[22:14] <randomatic> hi, I'm having trouble installing a new ubuntu desktop.  no matter what I do, the machine boots to a uefi shell.  I've tried usb key, usb hard drive, uefi and legacy boot modes, the result is the same.  what should I look at now?
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> Jeffrey_f, You read all 88 pages of that thread? that's impressive... because the first post is 2012, not 2011... and there has been additions to that thread as recent as 3 weeks ago
[22:20] <pragmaticenigma> I'd think that's a continuous work in progress
[22:21] <jayjo> so should I close keepassxc completely before attempting to reconnect to see if changes take place? I'm trying to inspect the files myself to see when there's a change to it
[22:22] <Jeffrey_f> pragmaticenigma, Misread  the info......still looking, and thanks=
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> jayjo, all the more recent versions of keepass employ lock files and leverage system permissions to ensure that other processes do not try to read the database when it's vulnerable.
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> vulnerable => open
[22:24] <jayjo> I am using the QT app. I can make an edit to a record or add a new record, and then I lock the DB. Then if I access from a different device, or re-connect to it by using my password and opening it again, it's not saved there.
[22:25] <jayjo> seems to me the only way that I can get it to persist is by clicking '>save database as' and rewriting it
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> jayjo, then you have some sort of setup that I haven't encountered
[22:29] <jayjo> ok, I suspect that it's just the google drive is not syncing the way I expect it to
[22:32] <Chuckfu>  do I need to specify a service to open a port or can it just be open with no firewall
[22:32] <jayjo> found this exact issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/KeePass/comments/8wwnv0/keepassxc_cant_save_the_database_in_the_cloud/
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> that would make sense to me... keepassxc is opening the database in a readonly state because it thinks another process is accessing the file
[22:36] <pragmaticenigma> Chuckfu, if you're talking about ufw... no, the "keywords" are just shortcut to templates that have preset port affiliations
[22:37] <Chuckfu> ok thanks for the anwser
[22:37] <jayjo> so is that actually not an issue with keepassxc, it's an issue with the google drive driver?
[22:37] <jayjo> or whatever is mounting the fs?
[22:42] <pragmaticenigma> jayjo, no... I don't know what could really be at play here... I can tell only what I have observed. and I know that keepass by default opens a db in readonly mode by default
[22:43] <pragmaticenigma> when it appropriate, it will allow you to save. it's a protection to ensure that A) you database doesn't get corrupted, B) make sure some other process isn't trying to "evesdrop" and capture the password data
[22:43] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: did you contact mastodan?
[22:44] <Chuckfu> with them right now
[22:44] <C0nundrum> Hello
[22:44] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: Ubuntu 18.04 does not have default firewall rules if you didn't set them up yourself.
[22:45] <Chuckfu> the puzzle is for me ufw is not even enabled
[22:45] <leftyfb> Chuckfu: How is mastodan trying to send email? Through what MTA/client?
[22:46] <randomatic> hi, I can't get the ubuntu install media to work, I always get an EFI shell and no more (even when the boot mode is legacy).  how do I make progress?
[22:47] <C0nundrum> In a kvm vm did dd if=/dev/zero of=$1 bs=3500M count=1;  on /dev/shm/speed which is a tmpfs volume but i only get 238 megabytes /s shouldn't writing to ram be faster ?
[23:24] <Eggspurt> i install "do_release_upgrade" from 18.04 to 19.10 now touchpad not work PLS how to remove LINUS ???
[23:24] <jayjo> I'm just using the Online Accounts feature of ubuntu to sync google drive. Is there a more robust way?
[23:24] <Eggspurt> it never worked right for me jayjo
[23:24] <jayjo> I suspect how that fileystem is mounting is what's causing me issues with keypass
[23:24] <jayjo> do you use something else?
[23:24] <Eggspurt> Google owns your files now, all you can do is visit them on weekends
[23:27] <Eggspurt> I did find a fix for the touchpad but I still have an issue I would like to ask about, I tried out Ubuntu 20 and after it rebooted my battery stopped charging, i ended up sending the laptop to HP for service and when it came back it said "SYSTEM/OTHER" so i was wondering if anyone else has come here with that or did my battery just go bad, i want to use Ubuntu 20 but I am afrid ther eis a bug with ACPI
[23:27] <Eggspurt> that messed with the bios? anyone?
[23:27] <Eggspurt> tl;dr Ubuntu 20 killed my battery
[23:28] <Eggspurt> where it was at 100% before i instaled ubuntu 20, and even after going back to 18 the battery was still toasted
[23:28] <Eggspurt> anyoen hear anything? or am i just paranoid?
[23:29] <jeremy31> Eggspurt: you might need to shut down, remove battery and power cord, then connect them again
[23:29] <Eggspurt> jayjo the times i have done it, it seemed to work at first, but when i tried to retrieve my files it sorta stopped working
[23:30] <Eggspurt> oh, jeremy i did that, took the battery off held the power putton for 1 minute, it was just weird the battery stopped all at once, so i suspected something, of course it could have been the circuiton the m-board, but like i saud HP wrote SYSTEM/OTHER on the paperwork
[23:31] <Eggspurt> anyone heard about the bug with Terminators custom commands thing?
[23:32] <Eggspurt> idk why you guys dont like Leafpad, because i despise KATE, even just the name KATE is a problem for me, i have a lot of baggage yes but cmon, what was wrong with leafpad?
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[23:34] <Eggspurt> using a womans name for an application just seems mysogynistic to me, why KATE? Why not KEVIN?
[23:34] <Eggspurt> the naming conventions for applications need to be addressed at some point
[23:35] <newdimension> How can I update Ubuntu 19.10's time? I run it in a VM, and the time drifts
[23:35] <bprompt> Eggspurt:  K(de) A(dvanced) T(ext) E(ditor) :P
[23:35] <newdimension> I tried sudo timedatectl set-ntp on but nothing happened
[23:35] <bprompt> Eggspurt:  is not gender-biased or anything, just an acronym, like LAME
[23:36] <Eggspurt> i dont know, maybe it was charging my juul on the usb that killed off the charging circuit
[23:36] <Eggspurt> i want to use Ubuntu 20 but now im scared
[23:37] <bprompt> newdimension:  after setting the time ith timedatectl, you need to tell the bios or cmos I think to keep it after reboots,  with -> sudo hwclock -w
[23:37] <bprompt> newdimension:  otherwise, any chances like set-ntp, will just be for the session
[23:38] <newdimension> bprompt: Was the time supposed to correct after the timedatectl command? Because it didn't
[23:38] <bprompt> newdimension:  what does set-ntp it's meant to do?
[23:38] <newdimension> I don't follow the question
[23:51] <elijaxapps> Hi. Who may I address to the task of compiling and preparing a .deb package with linux-realtime kernel for raspberry pi on focal fossa ?