[04:13] <CDSmith> hey folks … having an issue installing
[04:13] <CDSmith> installer gets to "Installing bootloader" and freezes around 81%\
[04:13] <CDSmith> after while goes thru and then errors out
[04:14] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso?
[04:14] <wxl> and check the installation media for efects?
[04:15] <CDSmith> no sorry …. checking now
[04:15] <CDSmith> 8b8b03366298e7489df6bc34760f89aa
[04:15] <wxl> since i have no idea what version you're talking about that means little
[04:15] <CDSmith> 19.10
[04:18] <CDSmith> going to try 18.04
[04:18] <wxl> that is good
[04:18] <wxl> did you check the installation media?
[04:18] <CDSmith> yeah... its good
[04:18] <wxl> what's the error then?
[04:19] <CDSmith> long error message … will try 18.04 and come back ….
[04:19] <wxl> i wouldn't suggest 18.04
[04:19] <CDSmith> I have since closed the message
[04:20] <CDSmith> ???
[04:20] <wxl> support ends relatively shortly and the transition to 20.04 will not be easy
[04:20] <CDSmith> is there a better distro ?
[04:20] <wxl> we don't support upgrades from 18.04 to anything and would suggest a fresh install
[04:20] <wxl> there's a perfect option: 19.10
[04:21] <CDSmith> can I upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10 ?
[04:21] <CDSmith> nvm … read above
[04:21] <wxl> the same way we'd suggest upgrading 18.04 to anything: a fresh install
[04:22] <CDSmith> hmmm ….
[04:23] <CDSmith> I am using Rufus to load the install to a bootable thumb drive
[04:23] <wxl> i've not heard of this error you're talking about so something's not right, which i'm sure will become apparent with the actual error message
[04:23] <wxl> oh man yeah i've seen things not work right with rufus
[04:23] <wxl> how did you check the install media for defects?
[04:24] <CDSmith> i'm not great with the technical side of this just yet....
[04:24] <wxl> well when you boot it there's a "check disc for defects option"
[04:24] <wxl> do that. you probably have a copy error (i.e. blame rufus)
[04:24] <CDSmith> is there a better option to rufus ?
[04:25] <wxl> i don't use windows, so can't tell you :/
[04:40] <CDSmith> trying with different media creation tool
[04:40] <CDSmith> Universal UBS installer
[04:40] <wxl> make sure to do that "check disc for defects" thing
[04:41] <CDSmith> on it now
[04:41] <CDSmith> no errors found
[04:42] <wxl> ok give it another shot
[04:46] <CDSmith> filling up file systems
[04:46] <wxl> ?
[04:47] <CDSmith> part of the install
[04:47] <CDSmith> 20%
 try balena etcher
 to create bootable usb
 and i dont have problem with installing lubuntu but i had smilar problem with kubuntu
[04:52] <CDSmith> 81% currently …. this is where it stalls for a few minutes
[04:52] <CDSmith> "Install bootloader"
 yeah, i understand u, i had smilar error with kubuntu and tried 3-4 times...
 well, u can try balena etcher before next trying if u want :)
[04:54] <wxl> that's not the issue
[04:54] <wxl> is it dead?
 what u mean by dead?
[04:55] <wxl> i'm asking CDSmith
[04:56] <CDSmith> its not "dead" but its not doing anything currently either
[04:56] <CDSmith> doing the install.... eventually gives error message
[04:56] <wxl> give it some time
[04:57] <CDSmith> still at 81%
[04:58] <CDSmith> 6 minutes now at 81%.....
 it s just there but u dont get error?
[04:59] <CDSmith> no error yet
 ahh, u should wait :D maybe ur harddisk is slow
[05:01] <CDSmith> 90% now
[05:01] <CDSmith> error
[05:01] <wxl> so what is the exact error?
[05:01] <CDSmith> boost.Python error in job "packages".
[05:02] <wxl> the whole error
[05:02] <CDSmith> one sec
[05:11] <CDSmith> tried to copy and paste and it didn't work ….
[05:12] <CDSmith> have to go thru the process again
[05:14] <wxl> you can always use pastebinit
[05:32] <CDSmith> Boost.Python error in job "packages".
[05:32] <CDSmith> Command 'apt-get --purge -q -y remove ^live-* calamares-settings-lubuntu calamares hunspell-en-us zram-config cifs-utils' returned non-zero exit status 100.
[05:32] <CDSmith> Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Package 'live-initramfs' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config-sysvinit' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-build' is not installed, so not removed Package 'livecd-rootfs' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot' is not
[05:32] <CDSmith> installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-boot-initramfs-tools' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-build-cgi' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-config-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package
[05:32] <CDSmith> 'live-config-systemd' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-epub' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-html' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-odf' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-manual-pdf' is not installed, so not removed
[05:32] <CDSmith> Package 'live-manual-txt' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-tools' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-wrapper' is not installed, so not removed Package 'live-wrapper-doc' is not installed, so not removed Package 'livemedia-utils' is not installed, so not removed Package 'lives' is not installed, so not removed Package
[05:32] <guiverc> !pastebinit CDSmith
[05:33] <guiverc> please use pastebinit CDSmith
[05:33] <wxl> wth
[05:33] <guiverc> !pastebinit
[05:33] <wxl> why on earth are they not installed?
[05:34] <wxl> there should be a log at ~/.cache/calamares/session.log
[05:34] <wxl> you can open a terminal and `pastebinit -i ~/.cache/calamares/session.log` and share the resulting uri here
[05:37] <CDSmith> not sure where to see that log
[05:37] <CDSmith> I am looking now
[05:37] <wxl> just open a terminal and enter the command and it will do the rest
[05:38] <CDSmith> permission denied
[05:39] <wxl> uh
 root
[05:39] <wxl> are you sure you typed it right?
[05:39] <CDSmith> yeah … checked twice permission denied at root.... this is off the thumb drive remember
[05:41] <wxl> wait a minute
[05:41] <wxl> you pulled the usb and put it in somewhere else?
[05:43] <CDSmith> I entered the command … no result yet
[05:43] <CDSmith> no uri
[05:44] <wxl> i literally just did this
[05:44] <CDSmith> its working but its not going
[05:44] <wxl> it takes a few seconds
[05:45] <wxl> but no more than 10
[05:45] <CDSmith> just gives me a blank space underneath the command I entered
[05:47] <wxl> are you SURE you checked the disc for errors?
[05:47] <CDSmith> got it
[05:48] <CDSmith> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNwJM5rytm/
[05:51] <CDSmith> have to head to bed.... will be back at this tomorrow …. I will leave myself logged in here until then
[06:59] <mykul_> hello all
 @mykul_ [<mykul_> hello all], hi
[10:34] <trucker> i want to make a lubuntu boot disk with the pre-installed utility from lubuntu "boot disk make" but i can't see my dvd+rw disc that i haven put in my  machine
[11:17] <guiverc> trucker, the lubuntu manual (https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.2/booting_the_image.html) has a link on burning a dvd from ubuntu, refer https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu#1-getting-started  (You didn't specify a version of Lubuntu, the manual page I gave was for latest 19.10)
[11:26] <trucker> @guiverc, i have read the manuals and i have found the problem. the tool i use Startup Disk Creator can only make live usb stick and not live dvd's i will install Brasero and try that
[11:29] <guiverc> :)
[11:30] <trucker> the iso is now burning on the disc
[12:21] <trucker> thanks guiverc, i have succes full burn the iso
[13:39] <nmzm> hello everyone. Are there any limits on how large can be shell script?
[13:39] <nmzm> Like 1000 lines maximum or something like that
[18:28] <CDSmith> anyone have any ideas on this failed install ???? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNwJM5rytm/
[18:30] <CDSmith> does it matter if the install medium is NTFS or FAT32
[20:29] <tomreyn> CDSmith: https://askubuntu.com/questions/765946/can-not-write-log-is-dev-pts-mounted-openpty-in-ubuntu-on-windows
[20:29] <tomreyn> !WSL
[21:32] <CDSmith> replaced the HDD and it installed without issue.... thanks to those that assisted me with this
[21:32] <wxl> so what was the problem?
[21:32] <CDSmith> the HDD in the old PC
[21:32] <CDSmith> once I change the HDD it worked like a charm
 ahh
[21:32] <wxl> oh yeah i forgot to explain linux can't fix broken X''''D
 did u try uefi install?
[21:33] <CDSmith> haha for sure
[21:33] <CDSmith> yes I did … and the system still wouldn't install all the way... kept getting error
[21:33] <CDSmith> think the drive was corrupt
 if its about drive, maybe u should have format ur drive to gpt first...
[21:34] <CDSmith> possibly... either way the new drive has about 420 GB more space.... lol
 when i first try to install linux, that was the problem i couldnt understand and make me reinstall 20 times...
[21:35] <CDSmith> currently updating the install
 glad to hear u could install really
 i also like lubuntu
 are you new at linux or?
[21:36] <CDSmith> just had an old PC that really needed a lighter OS in it....
[21:36] <CDSmith> new to Linux
[21:36] <CDSmith> might turn into a new plex server here
[21:37] <CDSmith> any suggestions ?
 there s one suggestion from me cuz it was helpfull, if u want set some apparance things to lubuntu first try its menu for that but also check pling app, u need to find lxqt in its menu for themes ofc
 ahh, there s another suggestion :D if u want format usb, install mintstick, i also like "ice" app for seperate browsers
 also if u want transparent panel u need to active "compton" from settings, i like it.
 that s all for now :D
 good night, sleep well guys
[22:03] <CDSmith> how do I set a password for my nickname ?
[22:04] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.15/users_and_groups.html
[22:04] <kc2bez> CDSmith: or here on freenode?
[22:05] <CDSmith> here … lol but thank you that was coming next
[22:05] <kc2bez> !register
[22:14] <CDSmith> and there we go... all passworded up and registered
[22:14] <wxl> welcome to the big time
[22:15] <CDSmith> hahaha for sure
[22:19] <david__> hi
[22:20] <wxl> hey
[22:21] <david__> Lubuntu works Fine
[22:22] <wxl> horray!
[22:42] <david__> But I have had problems with Nvidia drivers and I wonder why Linux allows Nvidia I find if there is a 64 dpi 1360X768 resolution problem after a proprother driver installation. then after the Nvidia graphics driver installation everything is terribly small. Why Nvidia is not prohibited
[22:42] <david__> Greetings David
[22:42] <david__> opensorce graphics driver goes great
[22:47] <wxl> david__: i agree with you but there's a bunch of folks that do not, especially given that with nvidia a lot of features are not revealed with the reverse engineered open source driver. for gamers or others making heavy use of their gpu, this becomes a concern.
[22:56] <MasterKing> Hey!!! Can I install Lubuntu on a 8GB thumb drive?
[22:58] <CDSmith> how do i get gnome working in lubuntu ??? I installed the extension for chrome
[22:59] <CDSmith> and some misc. other commands in the terminal
[22:59] <CDSmith> or how do i open it in my system ?
[23:00] <wxl> so let me get this straight, you typed a bunch of random stuff and it's not working? XD
[23:01] <kc2bez> Gnome extensions will only work in Gnome.
[23:01] <CDSmith> ok ... take it easy on the new guy
[23:01] <CDSmith> lol
[23:01] <wxl> heheheh
[23:01] <wxl> it's always best to approach any problem from the perspective of what you're trying to accomplish
[23:01] <CDSmith> lets say I am trying to install Dash-toDock
[23:02] <wxl> yeah that's for gnome and so if you want that you get alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the bloated gnome desktop to go with it
[23:02] <wxl> at that point, you might as well just use ubuntu
[23:02] <CDSmith> its gives me a .ZIP file and I dont know what to do with it
[23:02] <kc2bez> We don't have a dash so you can't dock it.
[23:03] <CDSmith> see .... there we go....
[23:03] <CDSmith> lol
[23:03] <wxl> but
[23:03] <CDSmith> I didnt know that .... baby steps here
[23:03] <wxl> there are docks out there
[23:03] <kc2bez> MasterKing: you might want to look at mkusb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent
[23:04] <MasterKing> I know how to install it; I want to know if it fits on a 8GB drive
[23:05] <kc2bez> I think it should, you may be a bit tight on extra storage but the base system will fit.
[23:06] <CDSmith> I was basically looking at a " just intalled lubuntu... here are 20 things you should do..."
[23:06] <MasterKing> ok thanks; i'll give it a try then
[23:07] <kc2bez> I might be the wrong person to ask :P CDSmith I don't really do much.
[23:09] <CDSmith> no worries .... I guess I am looking for guidance on how to work with lubuntu at an entry level ... want it to function like a PC but obviously with a little more of a challenge
[23:10] <kc2bez> CDSmith: if you are looking for a dock a few come to mind. Cairo, docky, plank, and latte dock all come to mind.
[23:10] <wxl> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kdocker ?
[23:11] <kc2bez> TIL ^
[23:11] <CDSmith> i just dont know how to install them I guess.... I am a quick learner ...
[23:12] <kc2bez> If they are in the repo you can find them and install them using muon or discover.
[23:13] <kc2bez> Our manual has some on using them https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/4/Installing_Updating_and_Removing_Software.html
[23:17] <david__> OK I know that you have to edit the script xsetup to get it to work, but I'm thinking of a new syncronization script or program that automatically fixes this problem. I know that it means a lot of work for Linux, but it would get around that Linux developers would try to do it Fix small bugs at KDE, XFCE, Lubuntu
[23:17] <david__> the modified xsetup script has to look like this xrandr --64 dpi then the picture looks good again.
[23:17] <david__> Otherwise, I really don't see anything under Linux. You get a lot more freedom than under Windows. I've been away from Windows for 2 years. I don't regret it.
[23:17] <david__> Very good work