| === heather is now known as hellsworth | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 07:21 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:25 |
| didrocks | good afternoon duflu | 07:29 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 08:28 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 08:28 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 08:28 |
| duflu | seb128, going OK. You? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | I'm good, thanks! | 08:29 |
| duflu | Looks like some performance improvements have and will squeeze into 3.36 late in the cycle. But I will wait and see what the status is at final release before pointing out anything that didn't land and is worth patching | 08:40 |
| seb128 | k, makes sense | 08:41 |
| didrocks | good morning seb128 | 08:41 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 08:41 |
| didrocks | ça va, et toi ? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | ça va bien :) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, jamesh, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder | 08:56 |
| seb128 | (and brb, going back to my desk now) | 08:56 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 08:57 |
| Laney | moin! | 09:02 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, Laney | 09:03 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 09:07 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney | 09:07 |
| Laney | hey didrocks et oSoMoN | 09:08 |
| Laney | you well? | 09:08 |
| didrocks | I’m good, thanks and you? | 09:08 |
| Laney | yeah doing alright | 09:09 |
| Laney | tried some non alcoholic beers in the pub last night to see what they were like | 09:09 |
| Laney | actually quite tasty | 09:09 |
| Laney | https://www.bigdropbrew.com/ | 09:09 |
| oSoMoN | I'm good, didn't sleep much but I feel alright now, let's see how the day goes | 09:10 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, oSoMoN! how are you? | 09:10 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, ça va et toi? | 09:11 |
| * Laney hands oSoMoN a strong coffee | 09:11 | |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 09:11 |
| Laney | looking like a nice day :> | 09:11 |
| Laney | can't find my usb stick though | 09:12 |
| Laney | you? | 09:12 |
| Laney | spotify stopped spamming me with apparmor notifications once I restarted it | 09:19 |
| Laney | was it something like: snap gets auto-refreshed, apparmor profiles get updated, old running copy can't do things any more? | 09:19 |
| Laney | (590 Done yesterday at 13:06 GMT yesterday at 13:08 GMT Auto-refresh snap "spotify") | 09:19 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN and Laney | 09:35 |
| Laney | nlɟnp ʎǝɥ | 09:36 |
| Laney | thought I'd be kind and write it the correct way up for you to read :-) | 09:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, might be worth mentioning the apparmor spam to #snappy? also you said GNOME wasn't handling the spam nicely, is that performance DoS? | 09:43 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:43 |
| Laney | but you have to have installed aa-notify so ... | 09:43 |
| seb128 | right | 09:44 |
| Laney | i'll make a forum post | 09:45 |
| seb128 | thx | 09:45 |
| jamesh | Laney: the AppArmor profiles grant access to ~/snap/$snapname/$rev, which will change during a refresh. It's not great for long running proesses, yeah | 09:45 |
| jamesh | that is, they grant write access to the revision-specific dir | 09:46 |
| Laney | Yeah, I do see denials in that directory | 09:51 |
| Laney | but also e.g. D-Bus method calls being denied too | 09:51 |
| Laney | I guess that's an instance of a general problem that the old profiles go away when you refresh | 09:52 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ça va (désolé, meetings donc IRC en délai ;) | 09:52 |
| jamesh | I still wonder how many snaps have actually been developed to take advantage of versioned $SNAP_DATA / $SNAP_USER_DATA | 09:57 |
| seb128 | duflu, do you see any opinion in trying to get pulseaudio 0.13.9x in focal? | 09:58 |
| didrocks | why oh why CI are you sefaulting? (choose your own theme song) | 10:00 |
| Laney | perfect code, bad CPU | 10:02 |
| didrocks | exactly! That or a compiler bug ofc | 10:02 |
| didrocks | never the code :p | 10:02 |
| didrocks | proof: works on my machine :p | 10:02 |
| Laney | intel@intel.com Dear Intel, I have discovered a serious bug in your processor: it can't run my correct code. I think you might need to recall all processors out there. Love, didrocks | 10:02 |
| didrocks | sent | 10:03 |
| didrocks | :) | 10:03 |
| Laney | :> | 10:03 |
| duflu | seb128, sorry I missed that message. I keep checking for releases but hadn't checked on the release schedule. It's possible to target 14 if it's out soon enough... | 10:09 |
| duflu | seb128, yes it sounds like we can try for it. Although I don't remember if there is any pressing reason | 10:11 |
| duflu | I will probably have a look this week | 10:12 |
| duflu | Probably more pressing is to get the bionic update out of proposed because it keeps breaking bionic systems (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bugs?field.tag=update-reverted) | 10:14 |
| duflu | And good night. | 10:15 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 10:23 |
| Laney | time for some SYNCS | 10:36 |
| Laney | hey Wimpress | 10:36 |
| Laney | handsome_feng: hey, have you seen kylin is failing to build? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntukylin/ | 10:38 |
| Laney | looks like a packaging bug to me | 10:38 |
| Laney | Unpacking parchives (1.1.4-1) ... | 10:38 |
| Laney | dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-kWhCe0/1349-parchives_1.1.4-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/add-files-to-archive.png', which is also in package engrampa-common 1.24.0-1 | 10:38 |
| handsome_feng | Laney, thanks, I will deal with it soon | 11:41 |
| Laney | cool | 11:41 |
| handsome_feng | Laney, hi, I have uploaded the peony-extensions to the Debian archive, and the build error will been fixed when it auto-sync from Debian archive. | 13:19 |
| Laney | handsome_feng: great! | 14:19 |
| Wimpress | Laney: Just seen your message about parchives and engrampa | 14:26 |
| Wimpress | handsome_feng: Anything I need to do to help with that? | 14:27 |
| Laney | Looks like it'll auto-sync and all fix itself (assuming the fix to peony-extensions is correct) | 14:27 |
| Wimpress | OK | 14:28 |
| handsome_feng | Wimpress: Hi, I have fixed it and tested locally, thanks! :) | 14:29 |
| Wimpress | Great :-) | 14:29 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:30 |
| Wimpress | hellsworth: o/ | 14:30 |
| marcustomlinson | hi hellsworth | 14:31 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | hey hellsworth | 14:31 |
| didrocks | morning hellsworth | 14:31 |
| Wimpress | OK desktopers, shall we get this show on the road? :) | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | morning hellsworth | 14:31 |
| Wimpress | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-02-18 | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Feb 18 14:31:42 2020 UTC. The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:31 |
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| Wimpress | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell | 14:31 |
| * seb128 gives kenvandine and hellsworth the look of 'you didn't post your weekly summary on discourse on friday' :) | 14:31 | |
| seb128 | _o/ | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | indeed :) | 14:32 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:32 |
| didrocks | as long as the road is safe… :) | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | i'll get it posted once i get a browser that accepts keyboard input :) | 14:32 |
| hellsworth | yes yes will do it soon :) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sudo apt install firefox | 14:32 |
| seb128 | :p | 14:32 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 14:33 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| Wimpress | Not seeing anything obvious for us there. | 14:34 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:34 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1863724 | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1863724 in mesa (Ubuntu Eoan) "Add missing pci-id's for Comet Lake (CML)" [Undecided,New] | 14:35 |
| Wimpress | Looks like tjaalton has that in hadn ^ | 14:36 |
| seb128 | looks like tjaalton nomited it and should probably take assignement? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, please when you nominate things assign them to yourself, it's a recurrent source of items we end discussing in meeting | 14:37 |
| Wimpress | Not seeing anything else in bb-tracking that stands out. | 14:37 |
| Wimpress | I am reminded we need to figure our what to do with some of the nm bugs. | 14:38 |
| marcustomlinson | do we not have an owner for nm? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | no :( | 14:38 |
| seb128 | I suggested we just unmilestone them | 14:38 |
| seb128 | they will go through the process again if they are important enough | 14:38 |
| Wimpress | Lets actually make a final decision on dropping them from milestone after this. | 14:39 |
| seb128 | but at this point they have been waiting for more than a year so they can probably wait until the incoming LTS... | 14:39 |
| seb128 | k | 14:39 |
| Wimpress | Moving on to Eoan. | 14:39 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 14:39 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:39 |
| Wimpress | Nothing to review it seems. | 14:40 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:41 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1853768 | 14:41 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1853768 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu Eoan) "Qt apps, like kid3-qt, which uses legacy icons "document-*.png", show them as normal document icon under Yaru theme" [Undecided,New] | 14:41 |
| seb128 | that's assigned? | 14:42 |
| Wimpress | So it is. | 14:42 |
| seb128 | :) | 14:42 |
| Wimpress | I can't read in straight lines it would appear. | 14:42 |
| Wimpress | Moving on. | 14:42 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 14:42 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:42 |
| didrocks | \me hands some glasses to Wimpress then | 14:42 |
| marcustomlinson | what kind? whisky? | 14:43 |
| didrocks | ahah | 14:43 |
| Wimpress | So, several to review here. | 14:43 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1862169 | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862169 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in build_flavored_key()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:43 |
| marcustomlinson | champagne bugs? | 14:43 |
| Wimpress | Yep | 14:44 |
| seb128 | that one is fixed since today with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/0.3.11-1ubuntu1 | 14:45 |
| seb128 | it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/grilo-plugins/commit/46d7c0ed | 14:45 |
| seb128 | I'm closing it | 14:46 |
| Wimpress | Thanks. | 14:46 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1776447 | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:46 |
| Wimpress | Looks like this should be assigned to Timo based on the comments. | 14:46 |
| seb128 | +1 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | unsure if that's important enough to be rls tracked though | 14:47 |
| seb128 | it's a report from mid 2018 with no duplicate | 14:47 |
| seb128 | it's in the sponsoring queue which should be enough | 14:48 |
| Wimpress | OK | 14:48 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1861769 | 14:48 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1861769 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from gdm_manager_handle_register_session() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from g_cclosure_marshal_generic()" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:48 |
| Trevinho | seems a +1 | 14:48 |
| seb128 | wait, what do we do with the previous one | 14:48 |
| seb128 | what's the workflow to get champagne bugs out of the list? | 14:49 |
| Laney | -champagne +notfixing | 14:49 |
| seb128 | untag + rls-ff-notfixing? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx | 14:49 |
| Wimpress | So #1776447 (Xorg) has a patch attached for Focal. | 14:49 |
| Wimpress | Back to https://pad.lv/1861769 | 14:51 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1861769 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from gdm_manager_handle_register_session() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from g_cclosure_marshal_generic()" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:51 |
| Wimpress | Looks like Daniel is investigating. | 14:51 |
| Wimpress | Assign Daniel? | 14:52 |
| seb128 | 305 reports in 19.10 | 14:52 |
| seb128 | I would just rls-ff-notfixing it | 14:52 |
| seb128 | it's a bug but I don't see any reason it needs to be rls targetted at this point | 14:52 |
| seb128 | others? | 14:52 |
| Wimpress | OK with me. Can un tag it. | 14:53 |
| didrocks | agreed, seems minor enough | 14:53 |
| seb128 | doing so | 14:53 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1861409 | 14:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1861409 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "searching for irc takes more than 10 minutes" [Low,Incomplete] | 14:53 |
| Wimpress | Un-tag that one I think. | 14:54 |
| seb128 | I can't reproduce and it lacks info | 14:54 |
| Wimpress | I dropped that tag. | 14:54 |
| seb128 | yeah, +1 for untagging to me, especially that Sergio didn't reply to the request for debug info | 14:54 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:54 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1862531 | 14:54 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862531 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[focal] Wayland session is not available when a laptop has an Nvidia card an Intel card is in use" [Low,Incomplete] | 14:54 |
| Wimpress | Looks like Daniel understands that one. | 14:55 |
| Wimpress | Assign Daniel and drop the tag? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | again seems non rls material to me | 14:56 |
| didrocks | ack | 14:56 |
| seb128 | imho not assigning Daniel | 14:56 |
| seb128 | I doubt he's going to work on it | 14:56 |
| Wimpress | OK | 14:56 |
| Wimpress | Dropped tag. | 14:56 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:56 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1861310 | 14:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1861310 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Overlay with shortcut numbers not showing on dock with pressing Super+0 or Super+Q" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:56 |
| Wimpress | Looks like a legit regression. | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:57 |
| seb128 | while I think it would be nice to fix I also don't feel like it's especially rls material | 14:57 |
| Wimpress | HOw should we track it>? | 14:58 |
| Trevinho | yeah, just a bug | 14:58 |
| Trevinho | assign to me | 14:58 |
| seb128 | I tagged desktop-lts-wishlist which is how I built a personal list of 'would be nice to fix for the LTS' | 14:58 |
| marcustomlinson | it's not obvious that it's "broken" really | 14:58 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, will you get to it realistically? you have lot of bugs assigned to you for cycles which aren't moving... | 14:58 |
| marcustomlinson | just not there :P | 14:59 |
| Trevinho | no, I'm saying not to mark as RLS | 14:59 |
| Wimpress | Assign to Trevinho and dropped the champagne tag. | 14:59 |
| Trevinho | but just assigned, in case... | 14:59 |
| seb128 | wfm | 14:59 |
| seb128 | though I think like the assignement is a bit misleading | 14:59 |
| seb128 | but up to Marco, maybe he has time to look at it | 14:59 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1860540 | 14:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1860540 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Password entry has no way of displaying what you type" [Low,Fix committed] | 14:59 |
| seb128 | that's fixed in 3.35 | 15:00 |
| seb128 | just untag until the update lands? | 15:00 |
| Wimpress | Yep, I'll untag it. | 15:00 |
| Trevinho | it was fixed even before (it hjas a contextual menu) | 15:00 |
| Trevinho | so not-a-bug | 15:00 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151 | 15:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1838151 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support." [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, the bug is that the context menu is not obvious, which is fixed now with an icon in the entry | 15:01 |
| Wimpress | So, this Bluetooth bug I'd love to see fixed. | 15:01 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, another one that would be nice to be fixed but probably doesn't qualify for rls tracking imho... | 15:02 |
| Wimpress | But as Daniel explains the required upstream patches have not been merged. | 15:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: well, "no way..." there's a way :) | 15:02 |
| seb128 | I would love to fix all those annoyance | 15:02 |
| Laney | unatgging> we should be adding rls-ff-notfixing at the same time | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, title is misleading | 15:02 |
| Wimpress | We have a Trello card for that Bluetooth one. | 15:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm adding those | 15:03 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, realistically we will not get to it I think... | 15:03 |
| seb128 | but yeah, it's in the backlog so let's see | 15:03 |
| Laney | If you want it worked on then I think Daniel will have to be asked to do it | 15:04 |
| Laney | so a matter of priorities .... | 15:04 |
| Wimpress | seb128: What was you wishlist tag? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, desktop-lts-wishlist | 15:04 |
| Wimpress | Thanks. | 15:05 |
| Wimpress | Updated accordingly. | 15:05 |
| seb128 | thx | 15:05 |
| Wimpress | Perhaps fixing this for 20.04.1 is doable. | 15:05 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1848326 | 15:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1848326 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "[cosmic+] error booting with prime-select intel: prime-select does not update initramfs to blacklist nvidia modules" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:05 |
| Laney | agreed it'd be good to get it worked on at some point | 15:05 |
| seb128 | once we are in ff we should look at bugfixing backlog and adjust priorities | 15:05 |
| seb128 | imho | 15:06 |
| seb128 | tseliot, can you comment about that nvidia-prime one? how important is it? | 15:07 |
| Laney | ask tseliot to look at that one ^- and accept or reject? | 15:07 |
| Laney | wee | 15:07 |
| Wimpress | While we wait... | 15:07 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1848951 | 15:07 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1848951 in mutter (Ubuntu) "High CPU when just moving the mouse" [Medium,In progress] | 15:07 |
| Wimpress | WHich is somewhat assigned to Daniel. | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I think it's unclear (to Daniel?) how the champagne tag should be used... | 15:08 |
| seb128 | the few assigned to him are ongoing work he's doing | 15:08 |
| Wimpress | Yeah. | 15:09 |
| Laney | right, I have an action item to draft an email about that | 15:09 |
| tseliot | seb128, Laney, looking | 15:09 |
| Laney | untag them I'd say | 15:10 |
| seb128 | +1 | 15:10 |
| Wimpress | Untagged. | 15:10 |
| Wimpress | Shall we move on to AOB? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | +1 | 15:11 |
| Wimpress | Actually. | 15:12 |
| Wimpress | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 15:12 |
| Wimpress | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 15:12 |
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| seb128 | oh right :) | 15:12 |
| Laney | heh | 15:12 |
| Laney | any insights seb128 ? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | so I reviewed that yesterday/today | 15:13 |
| seb128 | colord the i386 hint needs to be updated, I pinged Steve about it to know if we shouldn't just badtest all versions | 15:13 |
| Laney | yeh | 15:13 |
| Laney | that should be a reset-test, I will do that | 15:14 |
| seb128 | gscan2pdf/arm64 needs to be owned | 15:14 |
| seb128 | any taker? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, hellsworth, do you know what's going with http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/focal/arm64 ? | 15:14 |
| hellsworth | i will look at the failing tests asap | 15:15 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, this is also blocking CUPS. | 15:15 |
| seb128 | hellsworth, thanks | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | i saw the emails come through over the weekend but hadn't had a chance to look | 15:15 |
| seb128 | the c2esp/cups/cups-filters one have been retried and are green again with new ghostscript, that one needs a refresh to reflect | 15:16 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth seb128: looks really odd, like something up with the builder | 15:16 |
| seb128 | blubblewrap looks like a libcap update issue, Lukazs has been poking at it so let's wait to see if he figures it out | 15:16 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, yeah... | 15:16 |
| hellsworth | i was hoping that is what it would be since only some of the archs failed | 15:16 |
| marcustomlinson | that same libreoffice package has passed many times before on arm64 | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: congrats on getting that avahi fix upstream! | 15:16 |
| seb128 | mozjs60 failing to build I'm looking at | 15:17 |
| seb128 | and that should be it | 15:17 |
| seb128 | so gscan2pdf/arm64 needs an owner but didn't get one | 15:17 |
| seb128 | I'm going to card it and we will find a name to put on the card I guess | 15:17 |
| tkamppeter | Yes, I wanted to say it now here, too: After 3 (!) years Trent merged it, hope he will do the promised release. | 15:17 |
| tkamppeter | kenvandine, you have read it in my weekly update? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | https://trello.com/c/5lJGMuXL/123-gscan2pdf-arm64-autopkgtest-fails | 15:19 |
| Wimpress | seb128: The gscan2pdf looks like the builder failed to come up. | 15:19 |
| seb128 | same as libreoffice? | 15:19 |
| Wimpress | Or rebooted part way through the build. | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: and i got an email letting me know that's all resolved | 15:19 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, those are only the most recent tries, before it was failing on real error, e.g https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/arm64/g/gscan2pdf/20200131_095135_29260@/log.gz | 15:19 |
| seb128 | well timeout | 15:20 |
| tkamppeter | kenvandine, yes, you were CCed in all that discussion. | 15:20 |
| seb128 | anyway, needs to be investigated, we have a card | 15:20 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, we can move to AOB | 15:20 |
| Wimpress | OK | 15:20 |
| Wimpress | #topic AOB | 15:20 |
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| Wimpress | Who has something else they'd like to discuss? | 15:21 |
| didrocks | nothing for me | 15:21 |
| marcustomlinson | so about nm, I'm open to taking a shot at it if we're short of hands there, but I suppose only from around mid-March | 15:21 |
| marcustomlinson | I've got some other priorities until then :) | 15:21 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: Have you got zsys feedback yet? | 15:21 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, I'm dealing with keeping up with upstream but help would be welcome! | 15:22 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, is that trolling? :( | 15:22 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: still not, we got one update after requesting it on the Trello card but nothing more for ~1week | 15:22 |
| Wimpress | OK. Let me go back to them. | 15:22 |
| didrocks | I hope they won’t come at the last minute with a big list of things to fixed by FF | 15:22 |
| Wimpress | Anyone got anything else? | 15:23 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, just mentioning it but I'm unsure those champagne bugs belong/fit in the rls review process, but Laney said he was planning to email about that so maybe that's enough to fix the problem | 15:23 |
| seb128 | but they seem to have different sementic | 15:23 |
| seb128 | people use them to flag thing they hit, I don't think they intend to flag release issues | 15:24 |
| Wimpress | Correct. But we should quickly review them to identify any rls issue and tag/untag accoirdingly. | 15:24 |
| seb128 | could be easier going | 15:25 |
| Laney | If you want to triage them off into the wishlist tag as a team specific process that's also fine | 15:25 |
| Laney | Putting them on that list is a way to make us review them | 15:25 |
| seb128 | like having one person doing the pre-review and rls tag those worth it | 15:25 |
| Laney | This works for all teams which use the rls report | 15:25 |
| Wimpress | Also sounds good. | 15:26 |
| Wimpress | All done? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | I guess | 15:27 |
| tkamppeter | Any core-dev here who could upload SANE? It seems that at Debian no one is doing it? I do not want another LTS with old SANE. | 15:27 |
| Wimpress | tkamppeter: Do you have current packaging? | 15:28 |
| Wimpress | Have you filed a PR in Salsa? | 15:28 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, sounds like one for robert_ancell | 15:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 15:28 |
| tkamppeter | I have done debdiff, both for Debian and for Ubuntu, and reported bugs. | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | seb128: perhaps | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: can you ping robert and ask him ? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | probably tomorrow first thing your morning | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | or email | 15:30 |
| tkamppeter | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213 | 15:30 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 951213 in sane-backends "Request for update: SANE 1.0.29" [Important,Open] | 15:30 |
| Laney | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213 ? | 15:30 |
| tkamppeter | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1862926?_ga=2.172825632.2092980052.1581966388-909070028.1563372650 | 15:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862926 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "Request for update: SANE 1.0.29" [High,Confirmed] | 15:30 |
| Laney | that was tagged as pending on Saturday | 15:30 |
| Wimpress | OK. We are out of time. | 15:31 |
| Laney | feel free to persue it in Ubuntu also, but probably also keep an eye on if it can be synced again | 15:31 |
| Wimpress | Thanks everyone. | 15:31 |
| Wimpress | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Feb 18 15:31:14 2020 UTC. | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-02-18-14.31.moin.txt | 15:31 |
| Laney | pursue* | 15:31 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 15:31 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 15:31 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 15:31 |
| Laney | long one :O | 15:31 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: I'll be on paternity leave in about 3 weeks, so I've got a couple tasks that need attention before then. | 15:31 |
| marcustomlinson | when I'm back (mid-March about) I'm happy to help on nm | 15:32 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, what prevents a sync is that SANE in Ubuntu has a libsane1 transitional package. Could you check whether in FF it is still needed? | 15:32 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, right, I understand, we have been without assigned n-m maintainer for years, we can wait a bit longer for your help :) | 15:32 |
| didrocks | thx | 15:32 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: I figured as much | 15:32 |
| marcustomlinson | :P | 15:32 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: such things are needed if there's not been an LTS in between | 15:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, take time to properly drink champagne! | 15:32 |
| * Laney doesn't like fizzy | 15:32 | |
| Laney | the tag should have been IPA | 15:33 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, is it still needed our SANE case and if so, until when? | 15:33 |
| seb128 | :) | 15:33 |
| marcustomlinson | #scotch | 15:33 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: I dunno, I'm trying to give you the knowledge to check :P | 15:33 |
| Laney | skill sharing | 15:34 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, OK. | 15:34 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, Laney, I don't understand what happened with gnome-initial-setup, I've sponsored the .91 update in Debian and trying to pull pristine-tar & upstream/latest to the ubuntu side they conflict on the .90 tarball/commits for some reasons :/ | 16:28 |
| seb128 | did you do that update twice instead of pulling .90 from salsa? | 16:28 |
| Laney | seb128: should I know about this? | 16:30 |
| Laney | but yes I see a different has for 3.35.90 there | 16:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, sorry I assumed you sponsored for oSoMoN while I was away, I forgot that Olivier had upload rights for GNOME | 16:31 |
| Laney | hash* | 16:31 |
| Laney | you can fix this situation by merging one into the other and then pushing that to lp and salsa | 16:31 |
| seb128 | I could also force push the Debian version over to launchpad :p | 16:32 |
| seb128 | I assume not lot of people have checkout of that package | 16:32 |
| seb128 | still annoying either way so I will first wait to understand what happened, hopefully we can avoid that to happen again in the futur | 16:33 |
| Laney | wouldn't happen if we had this shit on salsa | 16:35 |
| Laney | what if we blocked half a day in frankfurt to do that migration | 16:35 |
| seb128 | it's on my list of things to look at with you and Marco in .de | 16:36 |
| seb128 | +1 | 16:36 |
| Trevinho | +1 | 16:36 |
| * Trevinho scripts on fire | 16:36 | |
| seb128 | Trevinho, new GNOME updates first, then you can hack away on that :) | 16:37 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, did I accidentally recreate the pristine-tar tarballs instead of pulling from salsa? in that case feel free to push -f to overwrite my changes | 17:23 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, are you saying that you're seeing conflicts on upstream/latest as well? | 17:24 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, thanks for merging my pot update branch :) | 17:28 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: yw! Hoping my comments on the other one makes sense | 17:29 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, looking now | 17:30 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, your comments are very sensible, going to adjust and reply in a moment | 17:47 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: no rush! Thanks :) | 17:47 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, yes, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHNhKDH5CB/ | 17:48 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, did you redo an gbp import-orig on the Ubuntu side? usually I do those updates by pulling upstream/latest & pristine-tar and merging debian/master to ubuntu/master | 17:49 |
| Luna_ | Hello, any meeting in 4 minutes or it has already been? | 18:26 |
| oSoMoN | Luna_, the weekly meeting was 4 hours ago | 18:31 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I don't recall for sure, but I guess I did… very sorry about that | 18:31 |
| Luna_ | oSoMoN, alright will read up on the log then :) | 18:33 |
| Luna_ | before todays Thunderbird meetings in 25 minutes | 18:34 |
| Luna_ | read it now, cya all laters | 18:47 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, don't worry, it's minor, I was just trying to understand what happened | 19:18 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, k, I force pushed upstream/latest and pristine-tar with the Debian ones, you have to force pull, sorry about that | 19:22 |
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| oSoMoN | seb128, no worries, thanks for fixing them | 20:21 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, np! | 20:21 |
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