[07:21] <didrocks> good morning
[07:25] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[07:29] <didrocks> good afternoon duflu
[08:28] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:28] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:28] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:29] <duflu> seb128, going OK. You?
[08:29] <seb128> I'm good, thanks!
[08:40] <duflu> Looks like some performance improvements have and will squeeze into 3.36 late in the cycle. But I will wait and see what the status is at final release before pointing out anything that didn't land and is worth patching
[08:41] <seb128> k, makes sense
[08:41] <didrocks> good morning seb128
[08:41] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[08:42] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:43] <seb128> ça va bien :)
[08:56] <seb128> Trevinho, jamesh, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder
[08:56] <seb128> (and brb, going back to my desk now)
[08:57] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[09:02] <Laney> moin!
[09:03] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, Laney
[09:07] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[09:07] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[09:08] <Laney> hey didrocks et oSoMoN
[09:08] <Laney> you well?
[09:08] <didrocks> I’m good, thanks and you?
[09:09] <Laney> yeah doing alright
[09:09] <Laney> tried some non alcoholic beers in the pub last night to see what they were like
[09:09] <Laney> actually quite tasty
[09:09] <Laney> https://www.bigdropbrew.com/
[09:10] <oSoMoN> I'm good, didn't sleep much but I feel alright now, let's see how the day goes
[09:10] <seb128> hey Laney, oSoMoN! how are you?
[09:11] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va et toi?
[09:11]  * Laney hands oSoMoN a strong coffee
[09:11] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:11] <Laney> looking like a nice day :>
[09:12] <Laney> can't find my usb stick though
[09:12] <Laney> you?
[09:19] <Laney> spotify stopped spamming me with apparmor notifications once I restarted it
[09:19] <Laney> was it something like: snap gets auto-refreshed, apparmor profiles get updated, old running copy can't do things any more?
[09:19] <Laney> (590  Done    yesterday at 13:06 GMT  yesterday at 13:08 GMT  Auto-refresh snap "spotify")
[09:35] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and Laney
[09:36] <Laney> nlɟnp ʎǝɥ
[09:36] <Laney> thought I'd be kind and write it the correct way up for you to read :-)
[09:43] <seb128> Laney, might be worth mentioning the apparmor spam to #snappy? also you said GNOME wasn't handling the spam nicely, is that performance DoS?
[09:43] <Laney> yeah
[09:43] <Laney> but you have to have installed aa-notify so ...
[09:44] <seb128> right
[09:45] <Laney> i'll make a forum post
[09:45] <seb128> thx
[09:45] <jamesh> Laney: the AppArmor profiles grant access to ~/snap/$snapname/$rev, which will change during a refresh.  It's not great for long running proesses, yeah
[09:46] <jamesh> that is, they grant write access to the revision-specific dir
[09:51] <Laney> Yeah, I do see denials in that directory
[09:51] <Laney> but also e.g. D-Bus method calls being denied too
[09:52] <Laney> I guess that's an instance of a general problem that the old profiles go away when you refresh
[09:52] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça va (désolé, meetings donc IRC en délai ;)
[09:57] <jamesh> I still wonder how many snaps have actually been developed to take advantage of versioned $SNAP_DATA / $SNAP_USER_DATA
[09:58] <seb128> duflu, do you see any opinion in trying to get pulseaudio 0.13.9x in focal?
[10:00] <didrocks> why oh why CI are you sefaulting? (choose your own theme song)
[10:02] <Laney> perfect code, bad CPU
[10:02] <didrocks> exactly! That or a compiler bug ofc
[10:02] <didrocks> never the code :p
[10:02] <didrocks> proof: works on my machine :p
[10:02] <Laney> intel@intel.com Dear Intel, I have discovered a serious bug in your processor: it can't run my correct code. I think you might need to recall all processors out there. Love, didrocks
[10:03] <didrocks> sent
[10:03] <didrocks> :)
[10:03] <Laney> :>
[10:09] <duflu> seb128, sorry I missed that message. I keep checking for releases but hadn't checked on the release schedule. It's possible to target 14 if it's out soon enough...
[10:11] <duflu> seb128, yes it sounds like we can try for it. Although I don't remember if there is any pressing reason
[10:12] <duflu> I will probably have a look this week
[10:14] <duflu> Probably more pressing is to get the bionic update out of proposed because it keeps breaking bionic systems (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bugs?field.tag=update-reverted)
[10:15] <duflu> And good night.
[10:23] <Wimpress> Morning  o/
[10:36] <Laney> time for some SYNCS
[10:36] <Laney> hey Wimpress
[10:38] <Laney> handsome_feng: hey, have you seen kylin is failing to build? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntukylin/
[10:38] <Laney> looks like a packaging bug to me
[10:38] <Laney> Unpacking parchives (1.1.4-1) ...
[10:38] <Laney> dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-kWhCe0/1349-parchives_1.1.4-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/add-files-to-archive.png', which is also in package engrampa-common 1.24.0-1
[11:41] <handsome_feng> Laney, thanks, I will deal with it soon
[11:41] <Laney> cool
[13:19] <handsome_feng> Laney, hi, I have uploaded the peony-extensions to the Debian archive, and the build error will been fixed when it auto-sync from Debian archive.
[14:19] <Laney> handsome_feng: great!
[14:26] <Wimpress> Laney: Just seen your message about parchives and engrampa
[14:27] <Wimpress> handsome_feng: Anything I need to do to help with that?
[14:27] <Laney> Looks like it'll auto-sync and all fix itself (assuming the fix to peony-extensions is correct)
[14:28] <Wimpress> OK
[14:29] <handsome_feng> Wimpress: Hi, I have fixed it and tested locally, thanks! :)
[14:29] <Wimpress> Great :-)
[14:30] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:30] <Wimpress> hellsworth: o/
[14:31] <marcustomlinson> hi hellsworth
[14:31] <hellsworth> o/
[14:31] <kenvandine> hey hellsworth
[14:31] <didrocks> morning hellsworth
[14:31] <Wimpress> OK desktopers, shall we get this show on the road? :)
[14:31] <oSoMoN> morning hellsworth
[14:31] <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-02-18
[14:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 18 14:31:42 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:31] <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell
[14:31]  * seb128 gives kenvandine and hellsworth the look of 'you didn't post your weekly summary on discourse on friday' :)
[14:31] <seb128> _o/
[14:32] <kenvandine> indeed :)
[14:32] <marcustomlinson> \o
[14:32] <didrocks> as long as the road is safe… :)
[14:32] <kenvandine> i'll get it posted once i get a browser that accepts keyboard input :)
[14:32] <hellsworth> yes yes will do it soon :)
[14:32] <seb128> kenvandine, sudo apt install firefox
[14:32] <seb128> :p
[14:33] <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
[14:33] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:34] <Wimpress> Not seeing anything obvious for us there.
[14:34] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:35] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1863724
[14:36] <Wimpress> Looks like tjaalton has that in hadn ^
[14:36] <seb128> looks like tjaalton nomited it and should probably take assignement?
[14:37] <seb128> tjaalton, please when you nominate things assign them to yourself, it's a recurrent source of items we end discussing in meeting
[14:37] <Wimpress> Not seeing anything else in bb-tracking that stands out.
[14:38] <Wimpress> I am reminded we need to figure our what to do with some of the nm bugs.
[14:38] <marcustomlinson> do we not have an owner for nm?
[14:38] <seb128> no :(
[14:38] <seb128> I suggested we just unmilestone them
[14:38] <seb128> they will go through the process again if they are important enough
[14:39] <Wimpress> Lets actually make a final decision on dropping them from milestone after this.
[14:39] <seb128> but at this point they have been waiting for more than a year so they can probably wait until the incoming LTS...
[14:39] <seb128> k
[14:39] <Wimpress> Moving on to Eoan.
[14:39] <Wimpress> #topic rls-ee-bugs
[14:39] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:40] <Wimpress> Nothing to review it seems.
[14:41] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:41] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1853768
[14:42] <seb128> that's assigned?
[14:42] <Wimpress> So it is.
[14:42] <seb128> :)
[14:42] <Wimpress> I can't read in straight lines it would appear.
[14:42] <Wimpress> Moving on.
[14:42] <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
[14:42] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:42] <didrocks> \me hands some glasses to Wimpress then
[14:43] <marcustomlinson> what kind? whisky?
[14:43] <didrocks> ahah
[14:43] <Wimpress> So, several to review here.
[14:43] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1862169
[14:43] <marcustomlinson> champagne bugs?
[14:44] <Wimpress> Yep
[14:45] <seb128> that one is fixed since today with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/0.3.11-1ubuntu1
[14:45] <seb128> it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/grilo-plugins/commit/46d7c0ed
[14:46] <seb128> I'm closing it
[14:46] <Wimpress> Thanks.
[14:46] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1776447
[14:46] <Wimpress> Looks like this should be assigned to Timo based on the comments.
[14:47] <seb128> +1
[14:47] <seb128> unsure if that's important enough to be rls tracked though
[14:47] <seb128> it's a report from mid 2018 with no duplicate
[14:48] <seb128> it's in the sponsoring queue which should be enough
[14:48] <Wimpress> OK
[14:48] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1861769
[14:48] <Trevinho> seems a +1
[14:48] <seb128> wait, what do we do with the previous one
[14:49] <seb128> what's the workflow to get champagne bugs out of the list?
[14:49] <Laney> -champagne +notfixing
[14:49] <seb128> untag + rls-ff-notfixing?
[14:49] <seb128> Laney, thx
[14:49] <Wimpress> So #1776447 (Xorg) has a patch attached for Focal.
[14:51] <Wimpress> Back to https://pad.lv/1861769
[14:51] <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel is investigating.
[14:52] <Wimpress> Assign Daniel?
[14:52] <seb128> 305 reports in 19.10
[14:52] <seb128> I would just rls-ff-notfixing it
[14:52] <seb128> it's a bug but I don't see any reason it needs to be rls targetted at this point
[14:52] <seb128> others?
[14:53] <Wimpress> OK with me. Can un tag it.
[14:53] <didrocks> agreed, seems minor enough
[14:53] <seb128> doing so
[14:53] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1861409
[14:54] <Wimpress> Un-tag that one I think.
[14:54] <seb128> I can't reproduce and it lacks info
[14:54] <Wimpress> I dropped that tag.
[14:54] <seb128> yeah, +1 for untagging to me, especially that Sergio didn't reply to the request for debug info
[14:54] <seb128> thx
[14:54] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1862531
[14:55] <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel understands that one.
[14:56] <Wimpress> Assign Daniel and drop the tag?
[14:56] <seb128> again seems non rls material to me
[14:56] <didrocks> ack
[14:56] <seb128> imho not assigning Daniel
[14:56] <seb128> I doubt he's going to work on it
[14:56] <Wimpress> OK
[14:56] <Wimpress> Dropped tag.
[14:56] <seb128> thx
[14:56] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1861310
[14:57] <Wimpress> Looks like a legit regression.
[14:57] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:57] <seb128> while I think it would be nice to fix I also don't feel like it's especially rls material
[14:58] <Wimpress> HOw should we track it>?
[14:58] <Trevinho> yeah, just a bug
[14:58] <Trevinho> assign to me
[14:58] <seb128> I tagged desktop-lts-wishlist which is how I built a personal list of 'would be nice to fix for the LTS'
[14:58] <marcustomlinson> it's not obvious that it's "broken" really
[14:58] <seb128> Trevinho, will you get to it realistically? you have lot of bugs assigned to you for cycles which aren't moving...
[14:59] <marcustomlinson> just not there :P
[14:59] <Trevinho> no, I'm saying not  to mark as RLS
[14:59] <Wimpress> Assign to Trevinho and dropped the champagne tag.
[14:59] <Trevinho> but just assigned, in case...
[14:59] <seb128> wfm
[14:59] <seb128> though I think like the assignement is a bit misleading
[14:59] <seb128> but up to Marco, maybe he has time to look at it
[14:59] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1860540
[15:00] <seb128> that's fixed in 3.35
[15:00] <seb128> just untag until the update lands?
[15:00] <Wimpress> Yep, I'll untag it.
[15:00] <Trevinho> it was fixed even before (it hjas a contextual menu)
[15:00] <Trevinho> so not-a-bug
[15:00] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151
[15:01] <seb128> Trevinho, the bug is that the context menu is not obvious, which is fixed now with an icon in the entry
[15:01] <Wimpress> So, this Bluetooth bug I'd love to see fixed.
[15:02] <seb128> Wimpress, another one that would be nice to be fixed but probably doesn't qualify for rls tracking imho...
[15:02] <Wimpress> But as Daniel explains the required upstream patches have not been merged.
[15:02] <Trevinho> seb128:  well, "no way..." there's a way :)
[15:02] <seb128> I would love to fix all those annoyance
[15:02] <Laney> unatgging> we should be adding rls-ff-notfixing at the same time
[15:02] <seb128> Trevinho, title is misleading
[15:03] <Wimpress> We have a Trello card for that Bluetooth one.
[15:03] <seb128> Laney, I'm adding those
[15:03] <seb128> Wimpress, realistically we will not get to it I think...
[15:03] <seb128> but yeah, it's in the backlog so let's see
[15:04] <Laney> If you want it worked on then I think Daniel will have to be asked to do it
[15:04] <Laney> so a matter of priorities ....
[15:04] <Wimpress> seb128: What was you wishlist tag?
[15:04] <seb128> Wimpress, desktop-lts-wishlist
[15:05] <Wimpress> Thanks.
[15:05] <Wimpress> Updated accordingly.
[15:05] <seb128> thx
[15:05] <Wimpress> Perhaps fixing this for 20.04.1 is doable.
[15:05] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1848326
[15:05] <Laney> agreed it'd be good to get it worked on at some point
[15:05] <seb128> once we are in ff we should look at bugfixing backlog and adjust priorities
[15:06] <seb128> imho
[15:07] <seb128> tseliot, can you comment about that nvidia-prime one? how important is it?
[15:07] <Laney> ask tseliot to look at that one ^- and accept or reject?
[15:07] <Laney> wee
[15:07] <Wimpress> While we wait...
[15:07] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1848951
[15:08] <Wimpress> WHich is somewhat assigned to Daniel.
[15:08] <seb128> I think it's unclear (to Daniel?) how the champagne tag should be used...
[15:08] <seb128> the few assigned to him are ongoing work he's doing
[15:09] <Wimpress> Yeah.
[15:09] <Laney> right, I have an action item to draft an email about that
[15:09] <tseliot> seb128, Laney, looking
[15:10] <Laney> untag them I'd say
[15:10] <seb128> +1
[15:10] <Wimpress> Untagged.
[15:11] <Wimpress> Shall we move on to AOB?
[15:11] <seb128> +1
[15:12] <Wimpress> Actually.
[15:12] <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[15:12] <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[15:12] <seb128> oh right :)
[15:12] <Laney> heh
[15:13] <Laney> any insights seb128 ?
[15:13] <seb128> so I reviewed that yesterday/today
[15:13] <seb128> colord the i386 hint needs to be updated, I pinged Steve about it to know if we shouldn't just badtest all versions
[15:13] <Laney> yeh
[15:14] <Laney> that should be a reset-test, I will do that
[15:14] <seb128> gscan2pdf/arm64 needs to be owned
[15:14] <seb128> any taker?
[15:14] <seb128> marcustomlinson, hellsworth, do you know what's going with http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/focal/arm64 ?
[15:15] <hellsworth> i will look at the failing tests asap
[15:15] <tkamppeter> seb128, this is also blocking CUPS.
[15:15] <seb128> hellsworth, thanks
[15:15] <hellsworth> i saw the emails come through over the weekend but hadn't had a chance to look
[15:16] <seb128> the c2esp/cups/cups-filters one have been retried and are green again with new ghostscript, that one needs a refresh to reflect
[15:16] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth seb128: looks really odd, like something up with the builder
[15:16] <seb128> blubblewrap looks like a libcap update issue, Lukazs has been poking at it so let's wait to see if he figures it out
[15:16] <seb128> marcustomlinson, yeah...
[15:16] <hellsworth> i was hoping that is what it would be since only some of the archs failed
[15:16] <marcustomlinson> that same libreoffice package has passed many times before on arm64
[15:16] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: congrats on getting that avahi fix upstream!
[15:17] <seb128> mozjs60 failing to build I'm looking at
[15:17] <seb128> and that should be it
[15:17] <seb128> so gscan2pdf/arm64 needs an owner but didn't get one
[15:17] <seb128> I'm going to card it and we will find a name to put on the card I guess
[15:17] <tkamppeter> Yes, I wanted to say it now here, too: After 3 (!) years Trent merged it, hope he will do the promised release.
[15:17] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, you have read it in my weekly update?
[15:19] <seb128> https://trello.com/c/5lJGMuXL/123-gscan2pdf-arm64-autopkgtest-fails
[15:19] <Wimpress> seb128: The gscan2pdf looks like the builder failed to come up.
[15:19] <seb128> same as libreoffice?
[15:19] <Wimpress> Or rebooted part way through the build.
[15:19] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: and i got an email letting me know that's all resolved
[15:19] <seb128> Wimpress, those are only the most recent tries, before it was failing on real error, e.g https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/arm64/g/gscan2pdf/20200131_095135_29260@/log.gz
[15:20] <seb128> well timeout
[15:20] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, yes, you were CCed in all that discussion.
[15:20] <seb128> anyway, needs to be investigated, we have a card
[15:20] <seb128> Wimpress, we can move to AOB
[15:20] <Wimpress> OK
[15:20] <Wimpress> #topic AOB
[15:21] <Wimpress> Who has something else they'd like to discuss?
[15:21] <didrocks> nothing for me
[15:21] <marcustomlinson> so about nm, I'm open to taking a shot at it if we're short of hands there, but I suppose only from around mid-March
[15:21] <marcustomlinson> I've got some other priorities until then :)
[15:21] <Wimpress> didrocks: Have you got zsys feedback yet?
[15:22] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm dealing with keeping up with upstream but help would be welcome!
[15:22] <seb128> Wimpress, is that trolling? :(
[15:22] <didrocks> Wimpress: still not, we got one update after requesting it on the Trello card but nothing more for ~1week
[15:22] <Wimpress> OK. Let me go back to them.
[15:22] <didrocks> I hope they won’t come at the last minute with a big list of things to fixed by FF
[15:23] <Wimpress> Anyone got anything else?
[15:23] <seb128> Wimpress, just mentioning it but I'm unsure those champagne bugs belong/fit in the rls review process, but Laney said he was planning to email about that so maybe that's enough to fix the problem
[15:23] <seb128> but they seem to have different sementic
[15:24] <seb128> people use them to flag thing they hit, I don't think they intend to flag release issues
[15:24] <Wimpress> Correct. But we should quickly review them to identify any rls issue and tag/untag accoirdingly.
[15:25] <seb128> could be easier going
[15:25] <Laney> If you want to triage them off into the wishlist tag as a team specific process that's also fine
[15:25] <Laney> Putting them on that list is a way to make us review them
[15:25] <seb128> like having one person doing the pre-review and rls tag those worth it
[15:25] <Laney> This works for all teams which use the rls report
[15:26] <Wimpress> Also sounds good.
[15:27] <Wimpress> All done?
[15:27] <seb128> I guess
[15:27] <tkamppeter> Any core-dev here who could upload SANE? It seems that at Debian no one is doing it? I do not want another LTS with old SANE.
[15:28] <Wimpress> tkamppeter: Do you have current packaging?
[15:28] <Wimpress> Have you filed a PR in Salsa?
[15:28] <seb128> tkamppeter, sounds like one for robert_ancell
[15:28] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[15:29] <tkamppeter> I have done debdiff, both for Debian and for Ubuntu, and reported bugs.
[15:29] <kenvandine> seb128: perhaps
[15:29] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: can you ping robert and ask him ?
[15:30] <kenvandine> probably tomorrow first thing your morning
[15:30] <kenvandine> or email
[15:30] <tkamppeter> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213
[15:30] <Laney> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213 ?
[15:30] <tkamppeter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1862926?_ga=2.172825632.2092980052.1581966388-909070028.1563372650
[15:30] <Laney> that was tagged as pending on Saturday
[15:31] <Wimpress> OK. We are out of time.
[15:31] <Laney> feel free to persue it in Ubuntu also, but probably also keep an eye on if it can be synced again
[15:31] <Wimpress> Thanks everyone.
[15:31] <Wimpress> #endmeeting
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 18 15:31:14 2020 UTC.
[15:31] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-02-18-14.31.moin.txt
[15:31] <Laney> pursue*
[15:31] <hellsworth> thanks
[15:31] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[15:31] <oSoMoN>  thanks
[15:31] <Laney> long one :O
[15:31] <marcustomlinson> seb128: I'll be on paternity leave in about 3 weeks, so I've got a couple tasks that need attention before then.
[15:32] <marcustomlinson> when I'm back (mid-March about) I'm happy to help on nm
[15:32] <tkamppeter> Laney, what prevents a sync is that SANE in Ubuntu has a libsane1 transitional package. Could you check whether in FF it is still needed?
[15:32] <seb128> marcustomlinson, right, I understand, we have been without assigned n-m maintainer for years, we can wait a bit longer for your help :)
[15:32] <didrocks> thx
[15:32] <marcustomlinson> seb128: I figured as much
[15:32] <marcustomlinson> :P
[15:32] <Laney> tkamppeter: such things are needed if there's not been an LTS in between
[15:32] <seb128> Laney, take time to properly drink champagne!
[15:32]  * Laney doesn't like fizzy
[15:33] <Laney> the tag should have been IPA
[15:33] <tkamppeter> Laney, is it still needed our SANE case and if so, until when?
[15:33] <seb128> :)
[15:33] <marcustomlinson> #scotch
[15:33] <Laney> tkamppeter: I dunno, I'm trying to give you the knowledge to check :P
[15:34] <Laney> skill sharing
[15:34] <tkamppeter> Laney, OK.
[16:28] <seb128> oSoMoN, Laney, I don't understand what happened with gnome-initial-setup, I've sponsored the .91 update in Debian and trying to pull pristine-tar & upstream/latest to the ubuntu side they conflict on the .90 tarball/commits for some reasons :/
[16:28] <seb128> did you do that update twice instead of pulling .90 from salsa?
[16:30] <Laney> seb128: should I know about this?
[16:30] <Laney> but yes I see a different has for 3.35.90 there
[16:31] <seb128> Laney, sorry I assumed you sponsored for oSoMoN while I was away, I forgot that Olivier had upload rights for GNOME
[16:31] <Laney> hash*
[16:31] <Laney> you can fix this situation by merging one into the other and then pushing that to lp and salsa
[16:32] <seb128> I could also force push the Debian version over to launchpad :p
[16:32] <seb128> I assume not lot of people have checkout of that package
[16:33] <seb128> still annoying either way so I will first wait to understand what happened, hopefully we can avoid that to happen again in the futur
[16:35] <Laney> wouldn't happen if we had this shit on salsa
[16:35] <Laney> what if we blocked half a day in frankfurt to do that migration
[16:36] <seb128> it's on my list of things to look at with you and Marco in .de
[16:36] <seb128> +1
[16:36] <Trevinho> +1
[16:36]  * Trevinho scripts on fire
[16:37] <seb128> Trevinho, new GNOME updates first, then you can hack away on that :)
[17:23] <oSoMoN> seb128, did I accidentally recreate the pristine-tar tarballs instead of pulling from salsa? in that case feel free to push -f to overwrite my changes
[17:24] <oSoMoN> seb128, are you saying that you're seeing conflicts on upstream/latest as well?
[17:28] <oSoMoN> didrocks, thanks for merging my pot update branch :)
[17:29] <didrocks> oSoMoN: yw! Hoping my comments on the other one makes sense
[17:30] <oSoMoN> didrocks, looking now
[17:47] <oSoMoN> didrocks, your comments are very sensible, going to adjust and reply in a moment
[17:47] <didrocks> oSoMoN: no rush! Thanks :)
[17:48] <seb128> oSoMoN, yes, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHNhKDH5CB/
[17:49] <seb128> oSoMoN, did you redo an gbp import-orig on the Ubuntu side? usually I do those updates by pulling upstream/latest & pristine-tar and merging debian/master to ubuntu/master
[18:26] <Luna_> Hello, any meeting in 4 minutes or it has already been?
[18:31] <oSoMoN> Luna_, the weekly meeting was 4 hours ago
[18:31] <oSoMoN> seb128, I don't recall for sure, but I guess I did… very sorry about that
[18:33] <Luna_> oSoMoN, alright will read up on the log then :)
[18:34] <Luna_> before todays Thunderbird meetings in 25 minutes
[18:47] <Luna_> read it now, cya all laters
[19:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, don't worry, it's minor, I was just trying to understand what happened
[19:22] <seb128> oSoMoN, k, I force pushed upstream/latest and pristine-tar with the Debian ones, you have to force pull, sorry about that
[20:21] <oSoMoN> seb128, no worries, thanks for fixing them
[20:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, np!