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pieqHello all!03:27
pieqWah, GNOME 3.36 will *finally* have a "Do not disturb" switch!!! \o/ \o/ \o/03:28
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:39
dufluMorning oSoMoN06:44
oSoMoNhey duflu06:59
didrocksgood morning07:14
didrocksah, finally took those 5 minutes to fix my weechat bindings :)07:15
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dufluMorning didrocks07:23
didrockshey duflu07:23
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:32
didrockssalut oSoMoN07:33
didrocksça va ?07:33
didrocksoSoMoN: all good for me on the MP, do you plan to update the ppa or should I just patch it locally? (both is fine to me)07:33
didrocks(I guess you add as well the snap label branch)07:34
oSoMoNdidrocks, ça va bien, et toi? thanks for the timely and careful review! I can update the PPA, but gotta run to school and daycare first07:34
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va, pas de pb, dis-moi une fois que c’est cuit ;)07:36
seb128goooood morning desktopers08:11
Laneyello09:03
didrockshey Laney09:03
WimpressMorning desktopers o/09:04
seb128hey Laney, Wimpress, how is uk today?09:04
WimpressGrey09:04
WimpressLess flooding. So that's good :-)09:05
didrockshey Wimpress09:05
WimpressCan actually leave the house today.09:05
Wimpressdidrocks: o/09:05
WimpressHow is France today?09:05
didrockshey again seb12809:05
didrocksgood good, semi-rainy semi-sunny09:05
didrocksin MIRing and rewevING world today :p09:06
seb128lut didrocks09:06
Laneyhi didrocks seb128 Wimpress09:08
Laneyyeah it's ok here too, some places are quite affected though09:09
Laneyhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5155507509:09
didrocksLaney: small question on systemd user activated service. Where do stdout ends up? Still syslog?09:14
dufluMorning seb128, Laney, Wimpress09:17
seb128hey duflu, how are you?09:17
dufluseb128, I'm OK. Just had to make an appearance at my aunt's birthday. That was the mental break I needed. How are you?09:17
seb128duflu, I'm good!09:18
seb128duflu, did you start looking at pulseaudio yet? I want to update it in Debian/experimental as a first step, just making sure I'm not duping/redoing work you started before though09:18
dufluseb128, not started yet and yes I was thinking we do Debian first on that09:19
dufluas usual09:19
seb128k, I will start with that then09:19
seb128thx09:19
dufluStill not sure what the features of v14 are09:19
dufluNEWS said nothing yesterday09:19
Laneydidrocks: journal, try something like systemd-run --user /bin/echo foo to play with it09:20
Laneya'noon duflu09:21
didrocksLaney: but the journal forward as well to syslog with our default configuration? Let me check09:21
didrocksLaney: interesting, I don’t see the output in journalctl --user after running an echo command09:22
didrockshowever, I do see it in syslog09:23
Laneythink we still install a syslog forwarder (rsyslog) by default so it should do09:25
Laneywouldn't want to rely on that always being the case though09:25
Laneyand yes it's there for me:09:25
Laneylaney@nightingale> journalctl --user --unit run-\* --since=09:20:30                                                                                                                                                               ~09:25
Laney-- Logs begin at Thu 2019-12-12 17:36:21 GMT, end at Wed 2020-02-19 09:24:18 GMT. --09:25
LaneyFeb 19 09:20:34 nightingale systemd[4159]: Started /bin/echo foo.09:25
LaneyFeb 19 09:20:34 nightingale echo[91157]: foo09:25
LaneyFeb 19 09:20:34 nightingale systemd[4159]: run-r19bd2c7f27ed465d81a91f170153da50.service: Succeeded.09:25
didrocksinteresting, unsure why this isn’t the case here09:26
didrocks$ systemd-run --user /bin/echo foo09:26
didrocksRunning as unit: run-r8f330f0271574e6092e4e57f41e77085.service09:26
didrocksah, it comes, I had to wait for ~30s for the journal to appear!09:26
didrockswhile system one is immediate09:26
didrocksI think we should gc it a little bit more aggressively09:27
didrocksack, making sense then. The forwarding to syslog was the important part to me, thanks Laney09:27
oSoMoNdidrocks, updated packages are currently building in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/software-properties/+packages, I'll let you know when they are published09:28
didrocksoSoMoN: perfect, thanks09:28
oSoMoNdidrocks, test packages are ready in the PPA10:08
didrocksoSoMoN: perfect! Will test10:09
didrocksoSoMoN: and tested! So https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379345/comments/995347 and https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379346/comments/995348, keep me posted about your thoughts10:25
oSoMoNdidrocks, ack, will look into that shortly10:33
didrocksoSoMoN: found another issue: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379345/comments/99535110:49
tjaaltonduflu: fyi, I've dropped the patch which disables 10bit panel support from mesa, gnome got fixed ages ago10:50
duflu\o/10:50
dufluLoving it tjaalton10:50
dufluI noticed mutter has client support coming10:50
tjaaltonnext would be enabling ccs compression again for intel, sent a patch to add getfb2 ioctl to the kernel, libdrm will get it in the next upload and then it leaves xserver which has pending patches too10:51
dufluI noticed that. It's an old one10:51
tjaaltonyeah, someone working on chromeos took it up and finished it10:52
tjaaltontook two years :)10:52
tjaaltonalso, mesa 20.0.0-rc3 is now in proposed..10:52
tjaaltonfinal should land later this week10:53
ricotzhello desktoppers11:14
didrockshey ricotz11:15
dufluHi ricotz11:29
oSoMoNdidrocks, mpt doesn't appear to be online but I sent an e-mail (you're CC'ed) to ask about the label alignment15:13
oSoMoNand I'm now looking into your other comments15:13
didrocksoSoMoN: sounds good, thanks!15:19
oSoMoNdidrocks, replied15:32
didrocksoSoMoN: tell me if my answer makes sense15:36
oSoMoNdidrocks, so you suggest that when going from Custom to any other option, the release pocket should be force-enabled, right?15:38
didrocksoSoMoN: I think so, and if you miss some components, we just fallback to Custom15:38
didrocksas it’s necesserilly people who edited by hand (should be checked though for universe/multiverse disabling)15:39
ricotzoSoMoN, hi, could you assign this accordingly? https://paste.debian.net/plain/113111216:09
ricotzoSoMoN, oops, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/+bug/186346316:11
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1863463 in nodejs (Ubuntu) "Firefox 75 requires nodejs >= 10.19" [Undecided,New]16:11
oSoMoNricotz, done, thanks for the reminder16:14
ricotzoSoMoN, thanks16:14
hellsworthoh good morning desktopers. i can't believe i forgot to say hi to you all :)16:24
marcustomlinsonlibreoffice will do that to you...16:25
marcustomlinson;)16:25
hellsworthmarcustomlinson: i dreamt about libreoffice all night last night16:25
hellsworthso naturally i just dove right in16:25
marcustomlinsongood mor... oh 3 new bugs... urgh16:25
hellsworthstory of my new libreoffice life16:26
hellsworththe number of bugs are getting ahead of me. i don't know how you did it16:26
oSoMoNhellsworth, good morning, and very sorry you had nightmares of libreoffice :/16:27
hellsworthoSoMoN: thanks btw for the suggestion on 1863468. i launched a local build last night with turkish to measure the size difference but for some reason there was an internal compiler error some time in so i don't have the finished snap to compare16:27
oSoMoNhellsworth, try building on launchpad?16:27
hellsworthyeah that's the only next step but i do feel handicapped not having local builds complete successfully16:28
hellsworthguess that's the way it is though16:28
Wimpresshellsworth: o/16:30
marcustomlinsonhellsworth: the bugs come in waves, suddenly you'll get silence for like 2 months, then all hell breaks loose for the next 216:31
hellsworthhi there Wimpress16:31
hellsworthmarcustomlinson: ok good to know. i'll look forward to that silence period and hope it comes16:31
kenvandinegood morning hellsworth16:32
hellsworthhi kenvandine16:32

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