[03:27] <pieq> Hello all!
[03:28] <pieq> Wah, GNOME 3.36 will *finally* have a "Do not disturb" switch!!! \o/ \o/ \o/
[06:39] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:44] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:59] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:14] <didrocks> good morning
[07:15] <didrocks> ah, finally took those 5 minutes to fix my weechat bindings :)
[07:23] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:23] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:32] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:33] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:33] <didrocks> ça va ?
[07:33] <didrocks> oSoMoN: all good for me on the MP, do you plan to update the ppa or should I just patch it locally? (both is fine to me)
[07:34] <didrocks> (I guess you add as well the snap label branch)
[07:34] <oSoMoN> didrocks, ça va bien, et toi? thanks for the timely and careful review! I can update the PPA, but gotta run to school and daycare first
[07:36] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ça va, pas de pb, dis-moi une fois que c’est cuit ;)
[08:11] <seb128> goooood morning desktopers
[09:03] <Laney> ello
[09:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:04] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers o/
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney, Wimpress, how is uk today?
[09:04] <Wimpress> Grey
[09:05] <Wimpress> Less flooding. So that's good :-)
[09:05] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[09:05] <Wimpress> Can actually leave the house today.
[09:05] <Wimpress> didrocks: o/
[09:05] <Wimpress> How is France today?
[09:05] <didrocks> hey again seb128
[09:05] <didrocks> good good, semi-rainy semi-sunny
[09:06] <didrocks> in MIRing and rewevING world today :p
[09:06] <seb128> lut didrocks
[09:08] <Laney> hi didrocks seb128 Wimpress
[09:09] <Laney> yeah it's ok here too, some places are quite affected though
[09:09] <Laney> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51555075
[09:14] <didrocks> Laney: small question on systemd user activated service. Where do stdout ends up? Still syslog?
[09:17] <duflu> Morning seb128, Laney, Wimpress
[09:17] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[09:17] <duflu> seb128, I'm OK. Just had to make an appearance at my aunt's birthday. That was the mental break I needed. How are you?
[09:18] <seb128> duflu, I'm good!
[09:18] <seb128> duflu, did you start looking at pulseaudio yet? I want to update it in Debian/experimental as a first step, just making sure I'm not duping/redoing work you started before though
[09:19] <duflu> seb128, not started yet and yes I was thinking we do Debian first on that
[09:19] <duflu> as usual
[09:19] <seb128> k, I will start with that then
[09:19] <seb128> thx
[09:19] <duflu> Still not sure what the features of v14 are
[09:19] <duflu> NEWS said nothing yesterday
[09:20] <Laney> didrocks: journal, try something like systemd-run --user /bin/echo foo to play with it
[09:21] <Laney> a'noon duflu
[09:21] <didrocks> Laney: but the journal forward as well to syslog with our default configuration? Let me check
[09:22] <didrocks> Laney: interesting, I don’t see the output in journalctl --user after running an echo command
[09:23] <didrocks> however, I do see it in syslog
[09:25] <Laney> think we still install a syslog forwarder (rsyslog) by default so it should do
[09:25] <Laney> wouldn't want to rely on that always being the case though
[09:25] <Laney> and yes it's there for me:
[09:25] <Laney> laney@nightingale> journalctl --user --unit run-\* --since=09:20:30                                                                                                                                                               ~
[09:25] <Laney> -- Logs begin at Thu 2019-12-12 17:36:21 GMT, end at Wed 2020-02-19 09:24:18 GMT. --
[09:25] <Laney> Feb 19 09:20:34 nightingale systemd[4159]: Started /bin/echo foo.
[09:25] <Laney> Feb 19 09:20:34 nightingale echo[91157]: foo
[09:25] <Laney> Feb 19 09:20:34 nightingale systemd[4159]: run-r19bd2c7f27ed465d81a91f170153da50.service: Succeeded.
[09:26] <didrocks> interesting, unsure why this isn’t the case here
[09:26] <didrocks> $ systemd-run --user /bin/echo foo
[09:26] <didrocks> Running as unit: run-r8f330f0271574e6092e4e57f41e77085.service
[09:26] <didrocks> ah, it comes, I had to wait for ~30s for the journal to appear!
[09:26] <didrocks> while system one is immediate
[09:27] <didrocks> I think we should gc it a little bit more aggressively
[09:27] <didrocks> ack, making sense then. The forwarding to syslog was the important part to me, thanks Laney
[09:28] <oSoMoN> didrocks, updated packages are currently building in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/software-properties/+packages, I'll let you know when they are published
[09:28] <didrocks> oSoMoN: perfect, thanks
[10:08] <oSoMoN> didrocks, test packages are ready in the PPA
[10:09] <didrocks> oSoMoN: perfect! Will test
[10:25] <didrocks> oSoMoN: and tested! So https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379345/comments/995347 and https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379346/comments/995348, keep me posted about your thoughts
[10:33] <oSoMoN> didrocks, ack, will look into that shortly
[10:49] <didrocks> oSoMoN: found another issue: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379345/comments/995351
[10:50] <tjaalton> duflu: fyi, I've dropped the patch which disables 10bit panel support from mesa, gnome got fixed ages ago
[10:50] <duflu> \o/
[10:50] <duflu> Loving it tjaalton
[10:50] <duflu> I noticed mutter has client support coming
[10:51] <tjaalton> next would be enabling ccs compression again for intel, sent a patch to add getfb2 ioctl to the kernel, libdrm will get it in the next upload and then it leaves xserver which has pending patches too
[10:51] <duflu> I noticed that. It's an old one
[10:52] <tjaalton> yeah, someone working on chromeos took it up and finished it
[10:52] <tjaalton> took two years :)
[10:52] <tjaalton> also, mesa 20.0.0-rc3 is now in proposed..
[10:53] <tjaalton> final should land later this week
[11:14] <ricotz> hello desktoppers
[11:15] <didrocks> hey ricotz
[11:29] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[15:13] <oSoMoN> didrocks, mpt doesn't appear to be online but I sent an e-mail (you're CC'ed) to ask about the label alignment
[15:13] <oSoMoN> and I'm now looking into your other comments
[15:19] <didrocks> oSoMoN: sounds good, thanks!
[15:32] <oSoMoN> didrocks, replied
[15:36] <didrocks> oSoMoN: tell me if my answer makes sense
[15:38] <oSoMoN> didrocks, so you suggest that when going from Custom to any other option, the release pocket should be force-enabled, right?
[15:38] <didrocks> oSoMoN: I think so, and if you miss some components, we just fallback to Custom
[15:39] <didrocks> as it’s necesserilly people who edited by hand (should be checked though for universe/multiverse disabling)
[16:09] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, could you assign this accordingly? https://paste.debian.net/plain/1131112
[16:11] <ricotz> oSoMoN, oops, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/+bug/1863463
[16:14] <oSoMoN> ricotz, done, thanks for the reminder
[16:14] <ricotz> oSoMoN, thanks
[16:24] <hellsworth> oh good morning desktopers. i can't believe i forgot to say hi to you all :)
[16:25] <marcustomlinson> libreoffice will do that to you...
[16:25] <marcustomlinson> ;)
[16:25] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: i dreamt about libreoffice all night last night
[16:25] <hellsworth> so naturally i just dove right in
[16:25] <marcustomlinson> good mor... oh 3 new bugs... urgh
[16:26] <hellsworth> story of my new libreoffice life
[16:26] <hellsworth> the number of bugs are getting ahead of me. i don't know how you did it
[16:27] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, good morning, and very sorry you had nightmares of libreoffice :/
[16:27] <hellsworth> oSoMoN: thanks btw for the suggestion on 1863468. i launched a local build last night with turkish to measure the size difference but for some reason there was an internal compiler error some time in so i don't have the finished snap to compare
[16:27] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, try building on launchpad?
[16:28] <hellsworth> yeah that's the only next step but i do feel handicapped not having local builds complete successfully
[16:28] <hellsworth> guess that's the way it is though
[16:30] <Wimpress> hellsworth: o/
[16:31] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: the bugs come in waves, suddenly you'll get silence for like 2 months, then all hell breaks loose for the next 2
[16:31] <hellsworth> hi there Wimpress
[16:31] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: ok good to know. i'll look forward to that silence period and hope it comes
[16:32] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth
[16:32] <hellsworth> hi kenvandine