[00:00] Yes. [00:02] My ansible task loops through a list with mode: 0644, state: link, and force: yes. That worked for files but not when I added a folder. I suppose it should just be 0777. [00:04] brandonkal: heh, my chmod(2) says that the AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW support is currently not supported. that probably just leaves you with removing the symlink and creating a new one in its place with the correct modes [00:04] hi, how can I create symbolic link in my home dir to a directory from another user home dir [00:05] Prolac: take a look at the output of ln --help | head to see how the various ways you can invoke ln [00:28] Interesting sarnold. macOS has a `chmod -h`. I've changed it to 0777 in the task though the symlink itself shows as 0755 now. Without an explicit mode, Ansible creates a symlink with the same permissions as the source file (i.e. 644) which breaks on macOS. This way should be more portable across macOS and Ubuntu. [00:29] brandonkal: aha! nice, thanks so much for reporting back :) [00:29] brandonkal: did it actually fix the issue? [00:30] brandonkal: the 0755 might be easy enough to adjust if you can stuff a 'umask 0000' in before creating the symlinks / files [00:30] (though this may leave other files *too* open) [00:32] Yes. It's interesting. It appears macOS still uses the source file permissions as the ultimate source of truth but some tools still read the permissions of the symlink first. [00:32] when I search on firefox (default google as search engine plugin) all works, if I do the same on firefox nightly then google blocks giving the uncommon traffic webpage asking for captcha, any idea what can cause this? [00:33] Betal usually blocking HTML5 canvas in Firefox causes problems like that. [00:34] Betal: wild-guess territory, perhaps an API key for google's search is embedded in firefox only in release builds, not nightly builds [00:35] brandonkal: this? "privacy.resistFingerprinting" [00:37] sarnold: tested with addons disabled and same [00:38] sarnold: this API key you say is the big string on search engine plugin? [00:40] Betal: I'm not sure how it is exposed, if at all -- I just know firefox is paid some money for bringing search results to google, ubuntu is paid some money for bringing search results to google via firefox, etc, and those are probably done by something very much like an API Key [00:41] more likely... Google sees an unfamiliar User Agent string, and assumes it might be a bot or some nefarious user and throws a captcha your way. If you don't like it, I'd recommend switching search providers to one that doesn't fingerprint and data mine user data [01:34] Yea! finally got through to where the people are. I hope. Anyone feel like helping me with a dependancy problem? I can't run python without glibc 2.25, which apparently isn't in xenial. [01:35] fHDhrSZP: wow, you've got a *crazy* problem... how'd you get in this situation? :) [01:36] I don't even see that we've ever published a 2.25 glibc https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+publishinghistory [01:37] No clue. First warning I had was python refusing to run. I didn't THINK I'd done anything that crazy. I've installed steam, chrome, and that's it (as far as unregistered repositories go. [01:38] I've even removed (with dpkg) python, and that didn't fix it. Maybe I need to remove all pythons dependancies too? [01:38] The only thing I can figure is that I somehow got an off version of SOMETHING in there SOMEWHERE, but I've no clue where. [01:39] sarnold: Yeah, I checked and there's no version past 2.23 in xenial. Which is why this is weirding me out so much. [01:40] fHDhrSZP: what does 'which python' report? is that file owned by a package or is it from something else? [01:40] Do you perhaps no how to poke an installed library to see where that version was installed from or something? I incanted 'strace -e open python'... [01:40] sarnold, you're a genius. [01:41] "where does the python invoked actually live?" was indeed the correct question, it pointed at an odd version and removing has fixed my problem. [01:42] fHDhrSZP: woot! [01:42] fHDhrSZP: so, that leaves putting your system back together :) [01:42] deleting one file is lots simpler that resolving umpteen dependancies to backport glibc! [01:43] Actually, I successfully resisted the impulse to just take things appart, and already backed out of all the changes I'd made. [01:43] So yah! for me too I guess. [01:44] Hi all. Does anyone know of a way to archive all email in thunderbird? I have several subdirectories under Inbox in over 10 accounts I want to archive. I'd rather not have to ctrl-a (select all) in every directory in every account. Hints? [01:45] just fyi, it pointed to a 4.4M binary in ~/bin . Still no idea why that was there, but it's not anymore, so time to hand this computer back over to my daughter. Many thanks, goodbye! === JakeSays_ is now known as JakeSays [01:47] fHDhrSZP: oh nice! I was afraid that it'd take a while to undo everything done in the middle :) [01:59] superboot: Can you explain your end goal with archiving? Are you changing clients? Are you just trying to reduce the number of messages in the Inboxes? [02:01] pragmaticenigma: I'm changing email servers, and I want to archive the mail and start fresh with the new service. [02:02] s/servers/service providers/ [02:06] Hi, I did pip install google, however Python claims it can't find the googlesearch module. What do I do? [02:07] superboot: Just because you're changing providers doesn't mean you need to overhaul your thunderbird. When you add a new mail account, thunderbird segments the new account into it's own set of files and folders in the profile [02:08] Helenah: First, you should not use pip unless in a python virtual environment. Python's pip can conflict with Ubuntu's preset libraries and cause your system to have issues. [02:08] But there is no Ubuntu package. [02:09] Helenah: Correct, however pips can have dependencies that will affect packages ubuntu manages through apt [02:09] Can anyone point me toward some instructions on how to create a .deb package ? I would like to recompile ffmpeg with some custom settings but have the new coompilation packaged as a .deb so I can still manage it with apt or dpkg. [02:09] So therefore I'll need a virtual env, right? [02:09] Synoptic: Perhaps try asking in #ubuntu-app-devel [02:09] Helenah: It is recommended [02:09] pragmaticenigma : ok thx, will go there [02:10] Helenah: as for why it is not currently working, if you ran pip, that is linked to Python 2.7... if you're running Python3 for your application, you need to use pip3 [02:11] superbot... does that make sense? ... The other option is to create a new thunderbird profile. Which will separate the old and the new. You can revisit the old profile, or new profile at your choosing. The mail in each will be kept completely separate [02:18] grep -R . /sys/module/zswap/parameters [02:21] /sys/module/zswap/parameters/compressor:lzo but arch say this lz4 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Zswap what it is better? [02:23] hrrm looknig around for any ubuntu cinnamon channel, may not yet be official flavor but likely to become ?? [02:27] qwertuttyty: lz4 may be slightly faster than lzo; you can give it a try and see how it works out [02:29] enyc: We are all volunteers here, we only know what we can find via google. You may find Ubuntu-MATE a very close, and supported flavor, to what you seek in Cinnamon. [02:30] enyc: Also, flavors are really just presets for Desktop Environments. "cinnamon-desktop-environment" is available in the universe repository [02:30] Does anyone know how to get seamless mode working with Ubuntu guest in virtual box that has no X11? Is it even possible? I've tried install virtualbox-guest-additions packages from the repos as well as the non X11 packages. [02:31] GCM14: isn't that mostly about getting video resizing and copy-paste to work? [02:31] what would it do for X-less sytem? [02:32] GCM14: Guest additions is intended for GUI installations. Without X, there really is no purpose to seemless, simply click on the window to give it focus [02:32] It's just so that you can resize the virtualbox window and it automatically ajusts the screen resolution to match. [02:32] Yeah that's what I thought [02:33] would you be better suited to just ssh into the thing? then you can resize your terminals all you wish [02:33] I have a lecturer making us user ubuntu server in virtualbox who is convinced that we should be installing guest additions to resize the resolution. [02:34] It's just a school thing. I did try to explain this to the lecturer [02:34] Anyway just wanted to check thanks [02:34] aha :) [02:34] "the old cranks on IRC said it wasn't helpful" :) === tds1 is now known as tds [02:35] unless it also does some filesystem stuff to let you 'easily' move files between guest and host [02:35] but it'd probably still be easier to just ssh in and do things, or rsync files in and out [02:35] Guest Additions could make it easy to share a folder between host and guest potentially [02:36] It's possible that Guest Additions might add an entry during TTY setup to determine the initial window size on boot. But I have my doubts on that one [02:36] Yeah it's a pointless exercise in a sea of pointless exercices. No one in industry would be using virtualbox anyway, we should be using vmware but oh well [02:37] GCM14: If you want industry... virutalizing isn't done with either [02:38] but thats a topic for #ubuntu-discuss [02:38] All good. I'd better get sopme real work done. Thanks for the responses =-) [02:41] hi, i'm trying bochs (compiled from last sources) and i get the following message: >>PANIC<< eth_linux: could not open socket: Operation not permitted, the config line is the following: ne2k: enabled=true, ioaddr=0x300, irq=9, mac=b0:c4:20:00:00:00, ethmod=linux, ethdev=enp0s25, script=none, bootrom=none, i think, it's a permissions problems as the message states, any clue how to make this [02:41] work? [02:43] (is this maybe related to predictable network interface names?) === S1L1K0N_ is now known as S1L1K0N === zbenjamin is now known as Guest26049 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:45] elnegro: This channel only supports software obtained through official Ubuntu software repositories. Compiled programs are not supported here, you will need to contact the developer for support or find a community forum or channel that supports that software. You can use !alis to search for a channel on that topic. [02:47] ops sorry, i'll try that, thanks [02:48] Look like lz4 loads the CPU more than lzo. This is the first not accurate impression. The load on the CPU may be more important to me. [02:56] How do I sed only the first n occurences in a file? [03:01] jakesyl: maybe this will help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/417901 [03:03] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TmFPsyDfsV/ [03:03] yeah, had looked at that. The g number prefix didn't help. My guess is I'm misunderstanding the mechanics of the selector [03:04] doesn't look like there's any man pages around sed [03:04] jakesyl: it honestly feels like it's the wrong tool for the job you want to complete [03:05] or perhaps only part of the what you need [03:05] qwertuttyty: that is not allowed here [03:06] Don't know of a better way to do it. Basically, I've got protocol buffers being generated from cmake. The #include paths are wrong so I'm trying to replace the first N occurrences. [03:06] Cmake doesn't have a ton of good tooling beyond a custom_command so if you've got something in bash you think would be better, that'd be awesome [03:06] lz4 decoding speed 1720 or 1570 MB/s [03:06] 1590 [03:08] jakesyl: I don't, but you might have better luck asking in a channel with a topic more inline with development... as I'm sure they'll have a better solution [03:08] qwertuttyty: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TmFPsyDfsV/ isn't your lz4 vs lzo comparison [03:09] got it [03:09] jakesyl: the sed language doc is in info format. info --vi-keys may help make that tolerable [03:09] 7day url [03:13] qwertuttyty: There is no "best" ... what is best for one person maybe different for someone else. You need to do your own research and determine what works best for you. If one command performs the way you desire better than the other, then you should use that. If I had to guess, lzo is probably single threaded and lz4 is able to make use of more processors cores. [03:14] qwertuttyty: You're going to need to do more research on your own to figure out that part [03:16] See table this done in 2015 in url. "The ZSTD decode rate is approximately 500 MB/s per core of the Intel Core i5-4300U processor (1.9 GHz) at 200 MB/s" Probably the rest was tested on this CPU. [03:20] "The ZSTD decode rate is approximately 500 MB/s per core of the Intel Core i5-4300U processor (1.9 GHz) at decoding speed 200 MB/s" [03:22] sorry: zstd coding 200, decoding 500 [03:28] LZ4 HC r127: 26 MB/s coding, but LZ4 r127 coding 370 MB/s [03:30] Which one is the LZ4 in Ubuntu? [03:33] You can translate the article yourself if you need. [03:42] i can use for zswap zstd? Or only lz4 or lzo? [03:47] qwertuttyty: I believe anything that is supported by the crypto subsystem [03:54] yes i can use zstd for zswap grep -R . /sys/module/zswap/parameters [03:57] kernel 5.5.4 ubuntu-mate 20.4 [03:59] virtual machine ram 2500 mb hdd os + ssd 4GB swap partition controller sata2 Host windows [03:59] host ram 4 GB [04:03] I 'll see what 's best for me: zstd, lzo, lz4 [04:05] Humor: tar? [04:08] macOS has color tags as extended attributes. Does ubuntu have this? I'd like an `ls` to show this info. [04:33] I ~ 1.5 years have not used zswap + ssd. I forgot that there is zswap. [04:33] :) === dtucker is now known as disi [04:49] what provides libncurses.so.5? [04:50] how do i in general, redirect the output of ls | grep filepattern (a list of files) to a command and get it to process each file? [04:50] I installed libncurses5-dev and the program still complains about missing libraries [04:50] i know for zip i did something like ls | grep keyword | zip file.zip -@ [04:50] and have used find before but found syntax complicated [04:50] anon, use find -exec instead [04:51] gendarme, how would i do that with a pipe like ls | grep [04:51] not just a single command [04:51] find . -type f -exec zip {} \; [04:51] piping ls is not good, etc etc [04:52] oh wait [04:52] wouldnt that create a million zips [04:52] not sure what you want [04:53] find a keyword in current dir and zip the file? [04:54] gendarme, i mean i have like 5 different files that match a pattern [04:54] i just get the list with ls | grep filepattern [04:55] then zip them all up in one zip [04:55] maybe grep "keyword" -Hs | zip [04:55] file names? [04:55] grep finds stuff IN files [04:57] wat [04:57] im just going ls | grep *.jpg i see all jpgs [04:57] oh wait maybe i dont [04:58] oh damn these files contain the keyword by concidence lol [04:58] don't parse "ls" outout, use find instead [04:58] what do you want to do? [04:58] *output [04:58] gendarme, i just want one zip so add all files to single zip all files that patch a pattern say *.jpeg in my current directory [04:59] send them to a file called pictures.zip [04:59] that just looks like zip *.jpg pictures.zip [04:59] (or tarball idc) [04:59] oh damn nice [04:59] ty [04:59] you can do this in a file manager... [05:00] can all commands do that? [05:00] if i give a file pattern as first arg [05:00] i think it's the other way around, archive name first, then compnents to add to archive [05:00] so: zip pictures.zip *.jpg [05:01] ah yeah [05:02] anon, it depends on the command [05:02] how do I search for library files with apt? [05:04] hey [05:04] whats the {} \ do after exec in find? [05:04] (stupid question i know but never understood this part) [05:04] it is a place holder for input files [05:04] \; is the terminating sequence [05:06] in the command you have find exec(ute), {} will be replaced by one of the matching file system objects ("files") the search produced. [05:10] gendarme: about libncurses.so.5: libncurses5-dev would provide headers to build software and link it against ncurses5. -dev packages won't usually contain the .so's (a compiled library). So libncurses.so.5 shoould be in package libncurses5 (not libncurses5-dev) [05:10] gendarme: you can (install and ) use "apt-file" to find which package of your installed ubuntu release provides a given file. [05:10] ah, thanks [05:11] what about the arch [05:11] how do I now if I need a 32 bit so or 64 bit? [05:11] well that depends on the bitness of the software that'll make use of this library [05:12] hmm, I figure that out using file I guess [05:15] thanks tomreyn ! [05:16] objdump -t /path/to/command would also work to detemrine bitness [05:16] you're welcome. === mTeK is now known as TrickSol === TrickSol is now known as mTeK === mTeK is now known as mmidgett === mmidgett is now known as mTeK === mTeK is now known as TrickSol [05:20] TrickSol: please... === TrickSol is now known as mTeK [05:21] Sorry [05:27] ah what profiles apt-file? I don't have it? [05:27] apt install apt-file got it [08:08] hi [08:09] how do i mount or connect android [08:11] can i get notification outside the box [08:11] in settings [08:19] Since yesterday my Ubuntu 19.10 machine does not boot fully to my Gnome3 DE. The last boot message I get is "Removing Stale Ext4 Metadata" [08:22] nor journalctl -k nor journalctl -p 3 -xb shows anything out of the ordinary, when rebooting I get the same situation. The strange thing is that none of my drives have been formatted with ext4, I use only btrfs [08:23] hi. I notice a device is mount to my home folder. I traced the mount to /dev/loop16 but that still doesn't tell me who/how it got there. Any ideas? [08:24] littlekimmy: what exactly are you trying to do? mount an android phone like a usb drive? [08:25] makara: loopback device is usually a disk image [08:26] makara, are you using a live-image to boot from, like a USB stick or an optical drive? [08:30] Nitrigaur: there is nothing plugged into my machine [08:31] ok, I tried to eject it now. It says theres an Atom snap using it [08:31] damn snaps [08:31] guys, does this option refer to the current sudo apt-get upgrade I'm doing or all future sudo apt-get upgrades too? https://i.imgur.com/z0TA6qc.png [08:32] I would be fine if it currently does all the restarts but I don't just want automatic restarting on future upgrades [08:34] makara, you can find out what processes are using your home drive with lsof | grep '/home/' [08:44] Nitrigaur: thanks [08:45] makara, no problem. Can you describe what you did before your home drive got mounted at the loop16 device? [08:49] Nitrigaur: sorry, it was in /media/ [08:52] makara, if you execute sudo grep '/home' /etc/fstab do you see the same loop device, or another one? Please note: the line(s) returned by that command might contain sensitive data. [09:06] hi [09:07] im reading about snap, and im wondereing, a pakache installed by snap, where does it get its updates from? [09:07] ubuntu repos? of repos defined in the snap package? [09:17] Hi. How do I submit a package to Ubuntu Backports repo? [09:42] i'm battling with keyboard shortcuts in my current ubuntu installation.. after upgrading some packages, ctrl + alt + t no longer works to launch a new terminal.. also, i'm not able to bind alt + f6 to switch to workspace 6.. there's also the confusion between using settings in the applications menu and dconf-editor to adjust keyboard shortcuts.. what should be used? [09:45] ... rebooting is out of the question, this is linux [09:47] which is the general way to remotely control android and linux [09:47] zamba: well rebooting would cause the new libs to be loaded, but you can switch to a console and restart X/wayland/window manager/whatever. If there were kernel updates reboot is desired nonetheless tho' [09:48] Since yesterday my Ubuntu 19.10 machine does not boot fully to my Gnome3 DE. The last boot message I get is "Removing Stale Ext4 Metadata" [09:48] ssh has some firewalling issues , is there a app like GSconnect that does this by avoiding firewalling issues of iptables as in ssh. to remotely control android from linux and vice versa [09:48] nor journalctl -k nor journalctl -p 3 -xb shows anything out of the ordinary, when rebooting I get the same situation. The strange thing is that none of my drives have been formatted with ext4, I use only btrfs [09:52] freakynl: yeah, a reboot fixed it.. but still.. a bit annoying [09:52] what about slimming down the titlebar? [09:53] https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-connect-your-android-device-to-your-linux-desktop/ where do i click to open that Fig A [10:18] i dont want to use ssh, as i prefer devices , so in order to send data without ssh, just knowing ip address, what's the way to use the kernel provided facilities which are used anyway by the apps like ssh. [10:28] does anyone have problems of graphicsl glitches/artifacts/triangles logging in? i have with my thinkpad t420 with intelhd3000 graphics card, since today's updates. maybe the graphics drivers pa i the culprit? [10:29] ppa [10:38] should I install docker-ce or docker.io on Ubuntu 18.04LTS? [10:39] Hello! Soooo, i have a (to me) strange issue with Ubuntu 18.04, libvritd networking and bridging. I have guests on a bridged interface. No problem there, they get DHCP from our DHCP and everything. But... i just noticed that when these guests access the internet our gateway sees the physical address of the ubuntu host, not the adresses of the [10:39] guests. So, it appears to be a NAT. But, i can access the guests from other systems (web, ssh, etc) and as i already mentioned they obtain addresses via DHCP, so it can not be a NAT. So, why do i not see the IP of the guests in our gateway? [10:39] The reason for. my question is that our gateway needs to route traffic from these guests into various VPN-tunnelse, identified by source ip. [10:44] janjoh74: MAC address will be the bridge's interface, but IP should be per guest with a bridge [10:44] janjoh74: and 'physical address'usually means MAC === Taco is now known as DetectiveTaco [10:47] Triffid_Hunter: I agree there. But, this is not the case. if i for instance launch a openvpn-client on one gues... My firewall sees a connection from 172.25.76.30 (physical ubuntu box ethernet):60865 -> Externalopenvpnserver:1195 [10:48] But, again, the same firewall serves the guest with a DHCP-address without any issue [11:01] Triffid_Hunter: And yes, the MAC of the guest is present in the arp table of both the physical host as well as the firewall/gateway.. Never seen this behaviour before. :) [11:09] Since yesterday my Ubuntu 19.10 machine does not boot fully to my Gnome3 DE. The last boot message I get is "Removing Stale Ext4 Metadata" [11:09] nor journalctl -k nor journalctl -p 3 -xb shows anything out of the ordinary, when rebooting I get the same situation. The strange thing is that none of my drives have been formatted with ext4, I use only btrfs === Antoine is now known as Guest40282 [11:50] Since yesterday my Ubuntu 19.10 machine does not boot fully to my Gnome3 DE. The last boot message I get is "Removing Stale Ext4 Metadata" [11:51] nor journalctl -k nor journalctl -p 3 -xb shows anything out of the ordinary, when rebooting I get the same situation. The strange thing is that none of my drives have been formatted with ext4, I use only btrfs [11:53] Nitrigaur: how do you run journalctl if the system doesn't boot? does it boot to recovery then? [11:55] the message you qoute does not seem to exist exactly as given. there is a somewhat similar message, "Remove Stale Online ext4 Metadata Check Snapshots", is this what you'Re seeing? [11:56] "lsblk" should list known file systems and their types, see whether any ext* file systems are listed there. [12:02] is there way to set nice or priority to specific daemon, i means for docker daemon [12:13] question: the 'openssl passwd' command asks for a password but should give an output which it doesn't [12:13] any ideas? [12:14] ubuntu 18.04 [12:15] tomreyn, it does boot, but does not continue to gnome3 [12:16] tomreyn, indeed, the message you mentioned matches [12:16] Remove Stale Online ext4 Metadata [12:17] check snapshots [12:37] oh wow, i found the solution [12:38] 'openssl passwd' only works with a password of 10 chars or less [12:38] seriously... [12:40] tomreyn, please don't be confused by the IRC client I'm using. It's my laptop running popos, but it's not my main desktop that I'm troubleshooting [12:47] Hello how do you install graphics card drivers for AMD? I've never used amd only nvidia so I'm confused what to do...? [12:49] !amd | Kali_Yuga [12:49] Kali_Yuga: Open drivers for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). AMD has a closed driver named amdgpu-pro that supports the same cards as amdgpu, but it is generally unnecessary. FGLRX is not supported in any current Ubuntu version or in this channel. For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units [12:54] why unnecessary? the games I'm trying to get running over steam don't work? [12:57] Kali_Yuga: They are "generally unnecessary" meaning they aren't needed for everyone... doesn't mean they aren't needed [12:58] Howdy folks [12:58] Kali_Yuga: AMD open sourced their entire Radeon drivers recently. There is very little difference between amdgpu and amdgpu-pro. The amdgpu-pro drivers enable the ability to use non-graphics rendering functions of the cards [12:59] so I checked do I need to install like xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-18.04 package or something idk. AMD is alien to me [12:59] Kali_Yuga: No [13:00] You should install "amdgpu" and the appropriate xserver required packages will be installed if necassary [13:00] Ok will try... [13:00] thx btw [13:01] pragmaticenigma: says unable to locate...:( [13:01] what says unable to locate? [13:02] maybe the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu package ? [13:02] Kali_Yuga: I don't know... you didn't tell me what created the message [13:02] Unable to locate package amdgpu [13:03] I looked under apt-cache search amdgpu and it only gives me the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu package [13:03] Kali_Yuga: What is the output of "lsb_release -d" [13:04] Description: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS [13:05] Kali_Yuga, what AMD card exactly? [13:05] oerheks: I guess an old Radeon HD 6870 listed under lspci | grep VGA [13:09] i think that card is fully supported with the openradeon driver? [13:09] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man4/radeon.4.html [13:13] Kali_Yuga: The amdgpu drivers are not required for that card. It is old enough that the openradeon drivers are all that will support it. (The card is not listed on the release notes page found here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-radpro-lin-16-40#faq-AMD-Product-Compatibility) [13:13] +1 [13:14] oerheks: ok so what exactly needs to be done? I find a lot of AMD/ATI Radeon display driver [13:14] s^ [13:14] Kali_Yuga: Read my last message to you [13:15] nothing, you should already have the openradeondriver [13:15] It means there is nothing to do. If you're seeing your desktop, then ubuntu already detected the card properly and is using the appropriate driver for that card [13:15] If steam games are not working, it is probably because the card is too old to support the requirements of the game [13:16] or the games are not supported on linux [13:17] pragmaticenigma: oerheks: okay if you guys say so [13:20] Kali_Yuga: That card series was released 10 years ago, and everything I have told you was based of a few web searches and looking up the documentation on that card from AMD, Wikipedia, and Ubuntu's own community support pages [13:24] pragmaticenigma: okay yes, steam game works under windows apparently on linux it says cannot find compatible vulcan driver.. So vulcan is not supported on this card correct? [13:25] Do you mean Vulkan? [13:25] pragmaticenigma: yes I guess so [13:26] hence the difference between windows, osx and linux. [13:27] Kali_Yuga: correct, that card is not supported by Vulkan [13:27] Kali_Yuga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)#Compatibility [13:28] 'some' games want vulkan, not sure what games are playable [13:29] Since yesterday my Ubuntu 19.10 machine does not boot fully to my Gnome3 DE. The last message I get is " Remove Stale Online ext4 Metadata check snapshots" [13:30] pragmaticenigma: And no way to play those games without vulkan huh? i guess steam says no then in linux to that game... [13:30] Kali_Yuga: Steam didn't make the decision... the game developer did [13:30] pragmaticenigma: yes or that [13:32] Hello [13:33] :) [13:33] hi MannyPlayzs [13:34] can somebody help me with ubuntu cuz i have one old pc and also im newbie ?(i just started) [13:34] Nitrigaur: try booting a previous kernel [13:35] MannyPlayzs: Welcome to the Ubuntu Support channel. If you have a support related question for Ubuntu, please go ahead and ask it (as much detail and say everything on one line if you can) [13:35] lotuspsychje, I tried, with the same results [13:35] Nitrigaur: so, what happens exactly after that message? [13:37] can someone help me with simple question? [13:37] ask, wait and see [13:37] MannyPlayzs: i guess that depends [13:37] MannyPlayzs: Don't ask to ask... just ask the question [13:38] zamba: hows that useful to say to users? [13:38] lotuspsychje, I can't really tell, but I can switch to a different terminal. that's how I could start journalctl [13:39] Nitrigaur: you cant boot, but you are gonna use a different terminal? [13:40] lotuspsychje: Nitrigaur can boot, just can't get to the GUI... I'm guessing the TTYs are available [13:40] i just try to install ubuntu 18.04 (on my old laptop) with the program unetbootin and try to install it without usb/dvd, when i am on the loading screen i choose unebootin and then the option for installation, but i recive a massage "this kernel requires and x86-64 CPU but only detected an i686 cpu - unable to boot" [13:40] lotuspsychje, I can boot, but it does not continue to graphical mode [13:41] Nitrigaur: did you try booting previous kernel with a recoverymode yet? [13:41] lotuspsychje, yes, I did. [13:42] MannyPlayzs: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [13:42] Pretty much the same results. now I do get some errors though: Failed to Start Music Player Daemon and ... Failed to Start Dunst notification daemon [13:42] MannyPlayzs: you'll need to use that iso for installation. It will require the internet to install. More than likely, an ethernet cable plugged into your laptop [13:43] Nitrigaur: you recall wich kernel your system did still work? [13:43] MannyPlayzs: or you install 16.04 32bit like you're trying to do and then upgrade to 18.04. That will be a bit of work and could potentially fail and need manual intervention to fix [13:43] lotuspsychje, that would be the latest kernel before the update, 5.3.0-29 [13:44] Nitrigaur: and you cant get in there neither? [13:45] leftyfb i have an older version 12.04 can i try to update it to 18.04? [13:45] MannyPlayzs: no [13:45] MannyPlayzs: that is way too old and end of life [13:45] lotuspsychje, well, the curses interface launches just OK just as you would expect when going to recovery mode [13:46] leftyfb ok i ll try with the 16.04 cuz from some time i live in germany and i am not aware of the cable connection settings [13:46] MannyPlayzs: to be clear, the default ubuntu desktop probably isn't going to run very well on that hardware. A $35 raspberry pi would work better. [13:46] I've tried fsck and it does reset the dirty bit, because I was forced to reboot using the three-finger salute [13:47] lotuspsychje, [13:47] MannyPlayzs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso [13:48] lotuspsychje, oh, dear, LVM state: Physical Volumes: not ok (BAD), Volume groups ok (good) [13:49] Nitrigaur: reading above logs, did you mention you are not using ext4, but btrfs? [13:49] lotuspsychje, yes, I did [13:50] leftyfb can i use some other free linux system for begginers? [13:50] leftyfb some that will run good and i can run some win apps? [13:50] !btrfs | Nitrigaur [13:50] Nitrigaur: Btrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs [13:51] MannyPlayzs: ubuntu is fine for beginners. But you are free to try whatever distributions you like. We cannot help with anything but Ubuntu. [13:51] MannyPlayzs: you're not going to be running "win apps" very well or at all on that hardware. [13:52] lotuspsychje, until now, I haven't got any issues using btrfs, maybe I've just been lucky until now... [13:52] leftyfb thank you verry much for the support when my download is ready i'll try what i can do :) [13:55] lotuspsychje, then again, I might be running into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/friendly-recovery/+bug/1790468 , if that still applies to 19.10 [13:55] Launchpad bug 1790468 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "system-summary shows wrong physical volume state" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:58] lotuspsychje, I can continue to graphical mode in recovery mode, but not using the normal sequence, also the display shows up as Unknown Display, resolution 1024x768 [13:58] Nitrigaur: as user, you have the choice to do with your system what you want, personally, i would choose LTS and ext4 for my machine [13:59] Nitrigaur: is there a specific reason you want btrfs? [13:59] lotuspsychje, I love the snapshots [14:00] When I choose a 4.x kernel in normal boot mode, I get a kernel panic [14:05] Nitrigaur: you can always be the trendsetter on the community and start testing btrfs bugs if you want [14:06] Nitrigaur: bug #1776005 for example [14:06] bug 1776005 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "kernel instability with BTRFS filesystem as rootfs" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776005 [14:06] lotuspsychje, well, I have rebooted and started journalctl -f . pulseaudio complains about not being able to start Bluetooth [14:08] lotuspsychje, which seems a bit weird to me, since I have not installed any Bluetooth device. [14:11] lotuspsychje, it did reach the Main User target, the last unit to start up successfully is the hostnamed-service, after that nothing. My main terminal's last line is still Remove Stale Online ext4 Metadata Check Snapshots [14:23] i have a bit of a catch-22 here.. i need to update /etc/fstab with a new UUID for the / system.. but i can't modify /etc/fstab since / is in ro and i can't mount / rw since the UUID entry is wrong [14:23] so what to do? [14:26] zamba: you need to fix it from recovery or chroot from a live system [14:26] since todays updates in ubuntu i have triangle artifacts everywhere. i don't think its the 3d card, because i can plau quake3 no problem. usng emacs/terminals is ok without artifacts. i have artifacts when i try to maximize windows or use gnome windows maager. also, i cannot start gzdoom [14:28] zamba: just editing fstab won't be neough, though, you'll also need to regenerate (or edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg) and probably run update-initramfs, too (and the latter will likely require the chroot) [14:29] gareppa: "todays updates in ubuntu" is not very specific. there are several supported releases, multiple architectures, gazliions of possible configurations. [14:30] also discuss which graphics hardware you have and use there, [14:30] lol right 19.10, amd64. seems a gnome problem, also i have tracker-extract at 100% now4i have intel hd3000 [14:34] holy shit, i just solved. i disabled this gnome extensions: gsconnect, openweather [14:36] 3rd party gnome extensions are the tool of choice if the goal is to break things uncontrollably [14:36] its incredible, now it came back [14:37] yeah [14:45] Any one know of a tool that lists the read / write rate of files being accesses by the os ? [14:49] C0nundrum: iotop lists it by process, but not by file [14:51] Are there no third party libs that do it ? [14:55] What is the command to check which version of ubuntu I have? [14:57] rapidwave: lsb_release -ds [14:58] C0nundrum: maybe perf and lsof can be copmbined to provide this information. but what are you trying to achieve there, and why? [14:59] systemsettings > details [15:03] C0nundrum: nmon can show you the overall Disk I/O and transfer speeds. I don't know of any program that can monitor individual file transfer speeds, if that is what you are looking for [15:04] well i know windows show i/o by file. was hoping linux had something similar. Trying to see when the pain points are in terms of disk utilization [15:06] C0nundrum: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or your best bet is to continue searching the web [15:08] C0nundrum: perhaps that's one of the reasons that file I/O is some 20× faster in linux than windows ;) [15:08] Ha lol [15:15] C0nundrum: https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425272829 if you want to read more about that [15:17] Nice find there Triffid_Hunter ... very helpful! [15:20] hi, i'm new [15:20] is this where the cool kids hang out [15:22] polarrex: I think you want #ubuntu-offtopic ... unless you have a Ubuntu support question, then you're in the right place [15:22] polarrex: this is a support channel. What can we help you with? [15:22] ah, sorry, i'm rather new to irc [15:23] lsb-release only exists in /etc and has no executable [15:24] rapidwave: lsb_release is the executable ... note the underscore [15:26] I'm using 19.04, is this version no longer supported? [15:26] rapidwave: correct, that reach EOL [15:26] What is the proper command to upgrade? [15:27] rapidwave: sudo do-release-upgrade [15:28] It says to do all upgrades first, apt upgrade leaves libocdb1 back [15:28] leaves libodbc1* [15:31] I'm out of my depth on that one... I don't know how to overcome those... did you "pin" the version on that package? [15:38] apt autoremove (18.04.4) wants to remove "efibootmgr libfwup1 sbsigntool secureboot-db". Are these safe to uninstall? [15:38] Can someone help me resolve this problem: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [15:38] fish : Depends: fish-common (= 3.1.0-1~bionic) but 3.0.2-1~bionic is installed [15:38] fish-common : Depends: fish (= 3.0.2-1~bionic) but 3.1.0-1~bionic is installed [15:39] I've tried uninstalling fish but I get an error message which again refers to unmet dependencies [15:41] denningsrogue: did you add external ppa's to your system? [15:42] paxis: what did you do prior to receiving that message? specifically what apt commands have you recently executed? [15:43]