[12:50] <cmaloney> morning
[14:37] <_stink_> yo
[16:14] <jrwren> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4ag4mw/this-college-banned-students-from-even-discussing-facial-recognition?utm_source=reddit.com
[16:14] <jrwren> lul OCC
[16:20] <cmaloney> JFC
[20:13] <jrwren> dang it greg-g wikpedia.org seems to have changed the cipher suite that is selected for me... it was my odd-ball test host. :)
[20:14] <greg-g> hah, what was odd?
[20:19] <cmaloney> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-20/trump-backer-ellison-gets-president-s-support-in-google-fight
[20:21] <greg-g> ugh
[20:22] <jrwren> i thought it was an uncommon TLS_* cipher suite, but maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.
[20:22] <cmaloney> Honestly I think Oracle might want to rethink this strategy
[20:22] <jrwren> why? oracle is making TONS of money.
[20:23] <cmaloney> "I see you're looking for Java. Go fuck yourself".
[20:38] <cmaloney> Honestly if there was anything I could do to hasten Oracle's demise I would.
[20:41] <jrwren> they are on the IBM track and will probably follow its analog closely.
[20:41] <jrwren> continue to have huge enterprise customers.
[20:41] <jrwren> not do anything very interesting.
[20:41] <jrwren> aquire, assimilate, and ultimately destroy companies.
[20:42] <jrwren> they'll be around for our entire lives but will largely remain irrelevant
[20:46] <cmaloney> Yes, but they keep making stupid comments like "OSS databases are a security risk"
[20:46] <cmaloney> as opposed to IBM which speaks like the Ents of Tolkein's world where nobody can understand what they say because it is too slow. ;)
[21:11] <greg-g> jrwren: we might be odd, I know Brandon Black (lead traffic engineer) is very aggressively pushing us forward wrt ciphers
[21:12] <greg-g> cmaloney: heh, that tweet from that oracle dude about OSS dbs is now unavailable
[21:13] <greg-g> but he did tweet https://twitter.com/matthewokeefe1/status/1229433884489719808
[21:13] <greg-g> which says "Maybe you should read the original tweet, where I made that clear." which he... deleted
[21:13] <greg-g> hilarious
[21:27] <jrwren> wrt ciphers?
[21:29] <greg-g> with respect to ciphers we're trying to be progressive/push things to newer better as fast/best we can given our large userbase (including stupid old windows machines)
[21:34] <jrwren> you still support IE6 on Win 2k?
[21:34] <jrwren> do you support non-SSL? I mean... that would open the most support... not requiring TLS
[21:35] <jrwren> :)
[21:51] <greg-g> nope! :)
[21:53] <greg-g> we have hsts enabled
[21:54] <jrwren> darned shame ;)
[21:54] <greg-g> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=en.wikipedia.org&s=2620%3a0%3a863%3aed1a%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a1
[21:54] <greg-g> :P
[22:07] <jrwren> oh, i'm definitely not trying to dis your config.
[22:08] <greg-g> I know :)