[00:00] has ubuntu on it now just need to wipe and replace [00:00] FremontC: check your /etc/pam,d/ configs [00:00] JoeLlama: try pressing F12 and choose the usb [00:01] no F12 key :( [00:01] goes up to F10 [00:01] I get a boot menu if I press 0 [00:01] but same thing happens [00:01] JoeLlama: anything interesting in the bios boot options? [00:01] fast boot disabled? secureboot off? [00:02] JoeLlama: in the bios which is set as the priority of booting? hdd or usb? [00:03] I check... didn't see secure boot [00:03] set for USB [00:03] hold on :) [00:03] there is an old ubuntu manual for that mini9 [00:04] https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_inspiron_laptop/inspiron-mini9_reference%20guide_nl-nl.pdf [00:04] quick boot off EriC^^ and nope :( [00:04] *sigh* [00:04] sarnold: /etc/pam.d/ has no *conf* files. There is a pam.conf - it has everything #commented out. (This is actually a xubuntu system) [00:04] where is secure boot? [00:04] wait I try something else [00:04] FremontC: those files odn't end with .conf, they are just named after the services in question [00:05] FremontC: so make sure /etc/pam.d/sshd describes the PAM policy you want sshd to enforce [00:06] EriC^^ and sarnold looks like my USB drive is not configured right for this install I tried regular ubuntu install and it boots from that [00:06] thanks :) [00:07] JoeLlama: yay? things are working? [00:07] nope [00:08] ok so I have an intel atom 450.... what version of lubuntu do I use? also should I go xubuntu instead? [00:08] oh wait intel atom n270 [00:09] it says it's a i686 hrm [00:09] JoeLlama: oh. uh. grab the 32 bit version: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/36331/intel-atom-processor-n270-512k-cache-1-60-ghz-533-mhz-fsb.html [00:09] thought this processor was 64 bit maybe not [00:09] oh ok thanks sarnold that is probably why [00:09] yeah [00:10] oh it's 32 bit :P [00:10] ok ok (: [00:10] I was thinking atom n450 [00:10] bbl thanks [00:11] lubuntu or xubuntu? [00:11] which should I use for this little CPU and small drive with little memory? [00:12] I've gotten the impression that both are pretty good for low-resource systems [00:12] Hey everyone I am fairly new to Ubuntu and I was wondering if someone could assist with some issues i'm trying to get figured out. [00:14] hi Jlc, ask wait and see :-) [00:15] I am in the process of moving my Plex media server over to Ubuntu from Windows. I have two separate hard drives with movies/tv shows and due to being NTFS it is assigned to root. How can I go about changing ownership from root to me so i can edit the file names and move everything around from the two drives. I have tried chown with no avail. [00:16] NTFS is not posix, so there is no permission change needed [00:17] Jlc4bigred: pretty much as oerheks said, you have to do "nothing" [00:17] mount the ntfs properly , not sure plex has mediafiles under a special group [00:18] oh, a clue: https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288606-mounting-ntfs-drives-on-linux/ [00:18] how do i go about mounting it properly? Ubuntu auto mounted both of the drives. Sorry for all the noobish questions. I'm just wanting to gain the ability to move files around and rename as need be [00:20] To make sure that Plex can read the files on your NTFS drvie simply run: sudo chown -R plex:plex /media/ [00:21] so, make plex an user of that disk, not changing the disk at all. [00:23] I have done that but it states that its chaging it to read only file system [00:23] maybe the free version is limited.. [00:23] plex is payware [00:23] but i'm wanting to be able to rename files accordingly and move files [00:24] Never had issues on windows but just got tired of windows updates taking down my server constantly [00:29] So I shrank windows partition using windows Disk Manager, now I'm installing ubuntu, what do you think aboiut the "Install third party software for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware and additional media formats"? [00:29] Also, it says to do that I need to configure Secure Boot. [00:30] 3rd party things is handy if you've got nvidia or a funky wifi chipset that's not well supported by the usual kernel [00:30] sarnold: This is just the on-board intel graphics. [00:30] I don't know if it's needed for the amdgpu package and firmware or not [00:30] puff`: you can probably skip it then [00:30] I guess it's not that hard to add it later? [00:32] yeah I think that's just run ubuntu-drivers if you want it [00:33] how do i auto connect without manually /msg NickServ identify ? [00:34] ptah8: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/certfp [00:34] depends on the client, webchat is not possible [00:35] oerheks, xchat [00:36] xchat is dead, no longer supported / developed. [00:36] oerheks, i auto connect to freenode, but [00:37] ok [00:37] it should be removed from universe repo [00:38] oerheks, what about irssi? [00:38] if you want graphical, use hexchat, it's like xchat but maintained [00:38] see the url from sarnold, all valid clients are mentioned [00:38] if you want command-line, use weechat or irssi [00:39] https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl is probably a better link [00:39] bitchx [00:39] bitchx is crap [00:39] lol [00:39] 1997 [00:40] hello all, im trying to work out what is causing my system to shutdown unexpectedly with very little indication as to what. ive had my providers replace the whole machine except for the HDDs and still my system unexpectedly is shutting down. it runs fine for anywhere between 1-10hours and then shuts off. logs dont really show much... but I did find this duringthe boot up text. Does [00:40] it mean anything? https://pastebin.com/iBwP0eSd [00:42] those bits about *BAD*gran_size [01:27] i'm trying to find the source for my kernel (linux-image-4.15.0-74-generic), is there an easy way i can download it? [01:27] on launchpad? [01:28] well anywhere really? is it easier to do it on an ubuntu host with apt-get source? [01:28] I believe that should do it, yes [01:29] i'll try that [01:29] i didn't have the source repos enabled on this host but i can add them [01:30] try apt-get source linux ; on my focal system I had to do apt-get source apt-get source linux-5.4 [01:31] sigh I forgot what I had in my select buffer [01:32] trying to debug a crash :( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QYyDpHjG5b/ [01:33] catphish: what version of ubuntu? [01:34] 18.04.3 LTS (server) 4.15.0-74-generic [01:35] catphish: you are behind on updates [01:35] catphish: both your kernel and version of ubuntu are behind [01:35] catphish: that said, if you install the hwe kernel, you'll get 5.3 [01:38] so i am, unfortunately this kernel is tainted with proprietary modules from a vendor and i'm not allowed to update it, this is not a condition i'm accustomed to, but it's the case, regardless my ideal conclusion here would be that the bug is already fixed and tell my customer to tell their vendor to upgrade the kernel (and their module) [01:38] I have a 4k screen and am unable to get a decent rendering of apps in ubuntu 18.04 LTS - any recommendations to fix things? I've a nvidia graphics card. [01:38] catphish: good luck [01:38] Fonts overlap in applications like editors [01:38] thanks :) [01:39] not all applications work nicely in hidpi in my experience, i run my 4k screen at 1080 :( [01:39] catphish: also, since you're using a kernel not provided by ubuntu, you're not going to get the source for it from the ubuntu repos [01:39] leftyfb: afaik this kernel is provided by ubuntu [01:39] (apart from the proprietary module) [01:39] this does look like an ubuntu kernel, but I can't recall seeing this stack trace before [01:40] the stack trace is similar to this one: https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=7023575 [01:40] catphish: does the module not work with any other kernel? Did you try? [01:40] leftyfb: i'm not in the habit of trying to force load kernel modules into large production systems on a whim :) [01:41] it's okay, if i can confirm that the bug is fixed, i can get it upgraded i'm sure [01:42] i'm more accustomed to just trying new kernels and hoping problems are fixed, but in this environment i don't have the luxury [01:43] so i'm like to really undertand the bug first [01:43] *i'd [01:44] catphish: hmm in that case this may be more usefu lto you https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-bionic.git/log/ [01:44] that is useful, thanks [01:45] a 2017 (!) changeset looks related 5ccba44ba118a5000cccc50076b0344632459779 [01:45] catphish, hopefully someone here has figured out a good setting for 4k [01:45] running a 4k monitor at 1080p doesnt sound like a good idea [01:47] leftyfb: sarnold: i was looking out for this patch in particular that suse mentioned https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/55afee27-4143-e08c-b254-0d68a05d5ee6@arm.com/ [01:47] is there a lightweight x-manager that does fonts well on a 4k monitor that i can install on 18.04lts? [01:48] but that patch doesn't seem to fit with this kernel at all, so there must have been more major changes [01:49] if those changes were made since this patch, the problem is likely resolved coincidentally [02:04] found it, the division is absent from master [02:04] should be trivial to see when it was rewritten / fixed [02:08] github doesn't enjoy rendering a blame of a 10,000 line kernel source file :) [02:08] !discuss | catphish [02:08] catphish: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [02:08] catphish: heh, no, it doesn't like that at all :) === zbenjamin is now known as Guest25812 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === ptah8 is now known as ptah [03:10] I raised this question a few weeks ago but kind of ran out of ideas at the time. Unable to proceed from 18.04.4 LTS to "normal" releases: https://pastebin.com/YSrsCrTJ [03:11] what's the output of curl https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release [03:11] Yeah, I should have pasted that too. Just a sec... [03:11] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gxr9pNCpvB/ is what I get [03:13] https://pastebin.com/Qd4J8Xwx [03:13] Hm, I should be using paste.ubuntu.com but aside from that it's the same. [03:15] okay I'm pretty confused [03:15] I feel like perhaps it's actually not "me". If there were someone else trying to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10, they might get the same behavior. I'd be happy to be wrong about that too. :) [03:18] Hopefully 20.04 becomes a reasonable resolution to the issue. [03:18] davido_: LTS -> LTS is the better upgrade. Wait till MAy [03:19] davido_: are you trying to do weird things again [03:19] May* [03:19] (20.04 will probably not be offered as an upgrade path until later in the year) [03:19] sarnold: oh really? That long huh? [03:20] It doesn't seem like LTS to Normal is that weird of a thing to do, but sure. [03:20] around august? [03:20] davido_: it's not an easy task to go from LTS -> skip EOL -> non-LTS [03:21] Honestly the motivation I had when I was asking about this a few weeks ago I worked around by compiling some things from source that I needed. So the urgency is gone. [03:21] I can't recall when we flip the switch, but I have a vague memory that it might be around the time we release 20.04.1 [03:21] davido_: I would highly suggest just sticking with LTS's [03:24] I understand. I can live with that. I may switch to normal once I get the next LTS release though. All my other systems have been using normal, and I've been living dangerously like that for eleven years. [03:24] Anyway, thanks. Hope everyone has a good evening. [03:25] davido_: its the users choice to always install latest [03:26] lotuspsychje: he's trying :) https://pastebin.com/YSrsCrTJ [03:26] lotuspsychje: and where things get confusing is that curl can grab that file no trouble https://pastebin.com/Qd4J8Xwx [03:26] Right. I just think that probably the upgrade path isn't working for the LTS release to the current 'latest' [03:26] davido_: you are trying things you shouldnt [03:27] davido_: if you wanted to jump from 18.04, you had to jump to 18.10 before eol [03:27] I'd expect it to work though, and if it doesn't, then I'd expect a way better error message [03:27] davido_: now you are stuck to 18.04 LTS [03:28] aww. [03:28] davido_: unless you wanna jump early to 20.04 -d lol [03:28] Then the message should not be "Failed to connect to https://...", it should be your upgrade path isn't supported. [03:29] there's the manual way [03:29] just updating the sources.list [03:30] probably not a great idea, I'd rather *know* why this happens before going down that path [03:30] I respect that. Just today I was telling someone on a totally unrelated topic, "Before we just fix this, let's find out how it got that way in the first place." [03:31] heh, did you? :) [03:33] We did! And it's good thing too, because it would have just gotten clobbered again. [03:34] davido_: oh very nice :) [03:34] Has anyone experienced intermittent wifi connectivity issues using Ubuntu 18.03 with VMWare Workstation 15.5 Pro? [03:34] 18.04* [03:34] storm-shadow: best to ask your specific question about it to the channel [03:35] anyway, good night everyone. [03:39] What steps are recommended to prevent wifi connectivity issues using Ubuntu 18.04 on VMWare workstation 15.5 Pro? [03:40] storm-shadow: volunteers need more details about your system and issue first [03:41] storm-shadow: for example: kernel version, wifi chipset, ubuntu release, system up to date.. [03:43] I'm using Ubuntu V18.04.4, Kernel 5.3.0. The host OS is Windows 10 Professional. [03:46] storm-shadow: ok...and your wifi does what exactly on wich Os? [03:46] I finally got an lxd 18.04 instance up and do-release-upgrade on it appeared to work exactly as it should.. [03:46] storm-shadow: so, are you configuring PCI passthrough to allow the ubuntu guest to use it? [03:49] The wi-fi on the host OS (Windows 10 Professional), appears to work fine. I can navigate to various websites without delay using multiple broswers (IE, Chrome, Firefox). The guest VM (Ubuntu 18.04) appears to intermittently lose connection. I sometimes have failures / delays downloading new software packages or navigating to websites using Firefox. I occassionally have to "Turn Off' the "Wire Connect" and then reconnnect in [03:49] order to jump start the internet connection. [03:51] The Ubuntu VM is configured for bridged network connectivity. I'm not sure how to enable PCI pass through connectivity. All other VMs that reside on the host (mainly Windows VMs) have no issues with connectivity. [03:54] Hello, is this a general ubuntu discussion chatroom? [03:54] Ah, yes it is. Sorry, I'm somewhat new to this. [03:54] !discuss | the1banana [03:54] the1banana: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [03:55] the1banana: this channel here is for ubuntu related questions [03:55] Basically, I'm having some trouble with my ubuntu install. I've recently replaced Windows 10 with Unbuntu, and I've successfully wiped that and installed Ubuntu in in its place. [03:55] However, I have one last problem. [03:56] Seems like the default Open Source Radeon drivers don't work with my video card (Tahiti LE [Radeon HD 7870 XT]). This is demonstrated by an insanely low resolution, and the computer booting to an unresponsive black screen on startup (only way to get past this is to manually add 'nomodeset'). [03:57] How do I resolve this problem? What additional information would help diagnose the actual problem? [03:59] usually it's enough to have linux-firmware installed so the firmware files can be loaded when amdgpu module is loaded [04:01] Ah, sorry if this is a stupid question, but should I have installed the linux-firmware package? Is that all I need? [04:01] you could try running ubuntu-drivers to see if there's missing amdgpu support or similar.. [04:01] the1banana: perhaps [04:01] Ah. I'll look. [04:01] the1banana: try apt install linux-firmware and see what happens.. [04:01] Seems like that's already in place. [04:01] Before we go on, I want to apologize in advance for any eye-rolling, "duh" questions I might ask. [04:02] I acknowledge that I'm very much an extreme beginner. [04:02] Anyhoo, I'm going to run ubuntu-drivers and take a look there. [04:02] devices or list? [04:03] I think devices is the better one [04:03] Huh. [04:03] It hung for a few seconds, then spit out nothing. [04:05] ooooookay [04:05] Does that mean I literally don't have anything installed pertinent to my hardware right now? [04:05] I don't know if that mean's it's confused or if it thinks everything is fine ;) [04:05] I was under the impression that the TAHITI chipset was supported by Radeon. [04:05] O...oh. [04:05] Oh, there's another command I ran that indicated something was wrong. [04:05] Let me scrounge up the command and the output. [04:05] yeah, the gentoo wiki page I found gave me the same impression.. [04:06] 2012 feels like prime place for a gpu vendor to stop caring though [04:06] Oh my. [04:06] the1banana: does your dmesg show problems about your driver module? [04:06] yeah, they always have something shinier and faster to sell..heh [04:06] Was about to get to that, actually. [04:07] dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' [04:07] [ 2.467311] [drm] VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting. [04:07] [ 2.467346] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module! [04:07] [ 2.770233] [drm:amdgpu_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting. [04:07] I'm uh, concerned I might have irreversibly rendered my video card useless by installing ubuntu fresh onto Windows. [04:08] the1banana: does your bios have graphics settings you can swap? [04:08] hmm is it normal to try both radeon and amdgpu modules? I had the impression amdgpu was way nicer replacement [04:09] Again, apologies for this, @lotuspsychje, but what does that exactly mean? Should I look into the BIOS and see what options I have for my video card specifically? [04:09] I'm not sure, sarnold. [04:09] the1banana: yeah some cards can switch to discrete graphics in bios [04:09] For reference, my hard drive is ASRock Z77 Extreme4. [04:10] This was a mid-high tier build back in 2012 that has rocked on for quite some time now. [04:10] ubuntu will choose the right module for your card, depending on the model it will choose radeon or amdgpu [04:10] I bet it's downright primitive now. XD [04:10] Hmm. [04:10] Should I check if I have amdgpu? [04:10] the1banana: Driver available ? what shows ' dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-radeon ' ? [04:11] ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon-hwe-18.04 1:19.0.1-1ubuntu1~18.04.1 amd64 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver [04:11] This is the output [04:12] and xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ? [04:13] ii xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-18.04 19.0.1-1ubuntu1~18.04.1 amd64 X.Org X server -- AMDGPU display driver [04:13] Seems like I have both. [04:14] alright, how about kernel modules; lsmod | grep amdgpu lsmod | grep radeon [04:14] I'm guessing both are loaded [04:14] (I don't know if this actually matters much) [04:14] that doesnt make sense [04:15] unless the system uses 2 cards :p [04:15] Both lsmod commands spit out nothing. [04:15] lotuspsychje: really? I've got a bunch of the xorg drivers installed on my machine [04:15] the1banana: alright, try modprobe amdgpu [04:15] then check dmesg to see if there's new lines near the end.. [04:16] should i sudo? [04:16] its not letting me do it [04:16] Operation not permitted [04:16] Also, I want to thank you in advance for your patience with this problem and me. [04:16] I sincerely appreciate it. [04:17] the1banana: ah yes, sorry [04:18] modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'amdgpu': Invalid argument [04:20] modinfo amdgpu dumps a novella [04:20] should i run that instead? [04:20] I sure hope none of those are mandatory :/ [04:20] does dmesg have more details? [04:21] dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' [04:21] [ 2.467311] [drm] VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting. [04:21] [ 2.467346] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module! [04:21] [ 2.770233] [drm:amdgpu_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting. [04:21] [ 3789.471974] [drm:amdgpu_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting. [04:21] use a pastebin please the1banana [04:21] Oh, ok. [04:21] heh, drone's a bit slow on the draw [04:22] how about lsmod | grep vga ? I wonder if that's a module you could simply *not* load? heh [04:22] Spits out nothing. [04:22] the1banana: sarnold "VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting." // Is nomodeset set ? show ' cat /proc/cmdline ' . [04:23] BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.3.0-40-generic root=UUID=4b70b64f-75e8-45ae-ab5f-d3bd06505b50 ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=1 [04:23] If it gets much longer than that, use a pastebin, right? [04:23] I'll keep that in mind. [04:23] yeah, two lines is usually fine, but more than that it's easier on all to pastebin [04:24] the1banana: so, I've got to run [04:24] the1banana: pastebin your whole dmesg please; and also a sudo lshw -C video [04:24] the1banana: Bashing-om is making me think it's worth reomving that 'nomodeset' from the command line, rebooting, and seeing what dmesg changed [04:25] the1banana: hopefully someone else around here knows these things better than I do :) good luck, have fun [04:25] aight, running dmesg [04:25] btw the pastebinit tool is fantastic at dealing with pastes [04:25] you'd do dmesg | pastebinit and it'll return you the url to paste in here :) [04:25] the1banana: that boot parameter "nomdeset" defeats Kernel Mode Setting. Can not load a driver . Are you setting nomodeset in /etc/default/grub ? [04:26] https://pastebin.com/nTkmwAi8 [04:27] Uh, I have many people whispering me (and I just realized it), should I whistle back to each thing or post my replies here for mutual reference? [04:27] And Bashing, I figured something like that and did set nomodeset. It was necessary to even be able to boot. === hallo is now known as deww [04:27] !who | the1banana [04:27] the1banana: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [04:28] !tab | the1banana [04:28] the1banana: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [04:28] Bashing: However, setting it in /etc/default/grub and letting it start up results in a black screen. [04:28] \w ubottu thanks! let me know if i break any other etiquette rules. [04:28] oh flip [04:28] the1`irc is a process of learning too :P [04:30] What next? Should I restart my computer and check out the options in BIOS? [04:30] the1banana: can i see sudo lshw -C video too plz? [04:30] the1banana: OK - made a backup of the grub config file ? we do need to remove the "nomodeset" boot parameter - then remember to run ' sudo update-grub ' then reboot and see what happens, take it from there. [04:32] @lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/UKWS8weG [04:32] @bashing, alright, let me examine /etc/default/grub [04:32] the1banana: ok, now it makes sense, your card is a hybrid with intel/amd [04:33] Are you referring to my graphics card? It's ATI/AMD. [04:33] @lotuspsychje, [04:33] the1banana: that means you can choose between your intel graphics or amd graphics [04:33] the1banana: they show both unclaimed that means both drivers have not been loaded right now [04:34] @lotuspsychje, Which, in this case, I would prefer amd. How do I activate it? [04:34] try the advice from Bashing-om first [04:34] @Bashing-om, removed nomodeset from the grub settings. [04:34] @Bashing-om, now I run sudo update-grub, right? [04:38] Alright, I'll run sudo update-grub and reboot. [04:38] I'll be leaving while the computer reboots. Be back soon! [04:41] Bashing-om, as usual, rebooting and waiting results in the purple ubuntu screen showing, with the five white dots, before hanging at a black screen. [04:44] Sorry, what should I try next? [04:46] the1banana: Yukkiepoo :( - when booting fo you get to grub's boot sceen ( hold shift key as soon as bios screen clears - EFI systen spam the escape key) . lets find something on the system to work with. [04:46] I'm in grub. [04:48] Options include "Ubuntu, Advance Options, some EFI directories and System setup". [04:48] Is there a breaking change between kernel 5.3.0 and 5.3.11? thanks! [04:49] the1banana: 'e' key for edit mode -> boot screen - in the line starting with linux remove quiet splash and insert systemd.unit=multi-user.target - ctl+x to continue the boot process to a TTY. can you log into the system here ? [04:50] Did it. Let's see if this boots. [04:51] Yup, im in a console sort of thing! [04:51] tty1 [04:51] the1banana: This is one time boot - will not persist a reboot . [04:52] What should I do here? [04:52] In that terminal run ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . lets see what the log file has to say. [04:53] Huh. Permission denied. Should I sudo? [04:53] the1banana: Ouch : ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . [04:54] Oh, oh that's really cool. I didn't know you could write logs to external paste recepticles. [04:54] https://termbin.com/rl8y [04:54] the1banana: reading , [04:55] Some of this looks suspect. Kernels not loaded and whatnot. [04:55] the1banana: So far so good " Is radeon loaded? yes" :) [04:57] the1banana: Yuk - "Unsupported discrete card vendor: 8086" I do not know what to make of this . Humm . [04:59] the1banana: What desktop environment do you have ? we try and start the GUI from this terminal. [05:00] Desktop environment? [05:00] I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. [05:00] Oh, my Ubuntu version? [05:00] That's 18.04.4 LTS [05:01] the1banana: Well, for example ubuntu has gnome, xubuntu has xfce , is this install vanilla ubuntu ? [05:02] Vanilla Ubuntu, I think. I fished it from the Ubuntu download page. [05:02] There's a GNU/Linux 5.3.0-40-generic x86_64 attached to this OS version name. [05:03] the1banana: OK - lets try and start the GUI see what happens: ' . [05:03] uh [05:04] how do i do that, haha? [05:04] the1banana: ' sudo systemctl start gdm3 '. [05:04] GUI is starting. [05:05] Getting the same thing. [05:05] Black screen, no response. [05:05] This doesn't go away unless I shove in the "nomodeset" thing in grub. [05:06] the1banana: And as above - nomoeset is not a long term solution. we need to find where the GUI fails . Ouch. [05:07] !sysrq | the1banana [05:07] the1banana: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [05:07] Hi all, how to install kernel 5.3.11 on ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS? thanks for the advice! [05:08] !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic [05:08] linux-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.0.40.97 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x) [05:08] That doesn't seem to actually work. [05:08] Should I just cold boot? [05:09] the1banana: try then as R S E I R B sequence . I much prefer a clean reboot! [05:11] that didn't do anything either [05:11] the1banana: lower case - r s e i b . [05:11] r s e i r b ** [05:11] Yeah. Should I be holding down the alt and print screen key when i do that? [05:11] wouldn't it be R E I S U B ? Or doesn't matter? [05:12] the1banana: Yup . tedious but can be done :P [05:12] i did that [05:12] is it a sequence or should i hold down ALL the keys [05:12] crimson_king: that too will work , I just learned the other in my beginnings :) [05:13] sequence [05:13] while holding CTRL + ALT [05:13] and PRINT [05:13] nothing doing [05:14] the1banana: A sequces - while holding down alt+prt scrn - slowing in sequence r s e i r b . [05:14] oh is the period necessary? [05:14] gotcha [05:15] the1banana: No, the period is only punctuation. [05:15] huh, either way both do not respond [05:17] the1banana: That is something I think we should fix. but how to cleanly reboot ? does key combo ctk+alt+delete work ? [05:18] doesn't work either [05:19] Sorry, I bet this seems like a train wrekc. [05:21] the1banana: let's do the harmful hard way then - as I know of no other ways to re-boot. get back to the terminal from grub, See again what we can do. Be aware I am running short on time to remain here also. [05:21] oh dear [05:22] i'm in grub [05:22] the1banana: This is AMD it should " [05:22] what did i need to put in again? [05:22] just work" ! [05:22] what do i replace quiet splash with again? [05:23] the1banana: ' sudo systemctl start gdm3 '. [05:23] no ! the1banana [05:23] no? [05:24] still getting the same black screen [05:24] boots only work if i put in the nomodeset option [05:24] the1banana: To start the terminl from grub ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' . [05:24] oh [05:25] haha [05:26] Terminal is loading. [05:26] we're in [05:27] what do i run here [05:30] the1banana: Lets see what the command line that the kernel sees ' cat /proc/cmdline | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . [05:31]