[04:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:24] <Blade> good morning
[04:46] <Blade> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[04:46] <Blade> System:
[04:46] <Blade>   Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 5.6.0-050600rc2-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
[04:46] <Blade>   Desktop: Gnome 3.34.3 Distro: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) 
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Blade: stop that please
[13:06] <Blade> lotuspsychje  part of ubuntu staff
[13:06] <Blade> or lame
[13:22] <Blade> ikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uptime
[13:22] <Blade>  15:22:10 up 12:34,  1 user,  load average: 0,00, 0,03, 0,00
[13:22] <Blade> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ 
[13:23] <mason> I think his issue was that it's generally bad etiquette to paste multiple lines to a channel.
[13:24] <Blade> ubuntu pastebin
[13:24] <Blade> ok
[13:25] <Blade> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dvd79s6wDY/   mason  is good for you
[13:30] <mason> Sure. I tend to like bpaste, but anything other than pastebin.com is good.
[13:31] <mason> Blade: Why is it "UEFI [Legacy]"? Not sure what that means.
[13:32] <mason> Blade: Ah, you have no ESP, so it means UEFI firmware, but running in legacy mode.
[13:33] <mason> I'm a fan of UEFI lately, and of using the Linux EFI stub rather than a bootloader.
[13:34] <Blade> dual boot with win10 pro
[13:34] <mason> And that lets you use legacy mode? Weird. Or do you have to switch it to UEFI for Windows to boot?
[13:35] <Blade> work no need change
[13:35] <mason> Oh... It's not showing my ESP either, so I'm not sure now.
[13:37] <Blade> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/smwYVS3zfg/  see mason
[13:37] <mason> Blade: Here's my laptop for comparison: https://bpaste.net/MBEA
[13:38] <Blade> original kernel
[13:38] <Blade> in my list
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> Blade mason this channel is for 20.04 support questions, not for offtopic chatting please respect the !guidelines
[14:26] <Blade> i test
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Blade: test in silence
[14:27] <Blade> ok
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> or in #test
[14:28] <Blade> ubuntu is beta 20.04 lts is a test
[14:29] <Blade> work
[14:29] <Blade> no need going to test
[14:34] <Blade> lotuspsychje  staff of ubunto or .............
[14:36] <Blade> ubuntu
[14:37] <Blade> lotuspsychje  whats is problem whith me install beta 20.04 manual install new rc2 kernel 5.6
[14:38] <Blade> work
[14:38] <Blade> and 440mnvidia testin driver work
[14:45] <mason> lotuspsychje: I don't really need the correction. I was explaining netiquette and the use of pastebins as opposed to pasting in channel. That must have been obvious to you.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> mason: we have an #ubuntu-discuss channel for laptop comparisson & uefi chatting
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> this is 20.04 support
[14:47] <mason> lotuspsychje: You'd set the tone with a random greeting last night. If you want the channel to be toxic, I'll be happy enough to go elsewhere.
[14:47] <Blade> lotuspsychje  you support is
[14:47] <Blade> pastebin pic to see
[14:47] <Blade> hate
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> mason: feel free to continue this in #ubuntu-discuss
[14:48] <mason> lotuspsychje: I'm uninterested. You may have your channel back in peace.
[14:50] <Blade> lotuspsychje  see my intall help me support me hahahahahahhaahahahaha
[14:50] <Blade> install
[14:50] <Blade> lotuspsychje  you ar belgian lame
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> Blade: only support questions in this channel
[14:54] <Blade> fpr
[14:54] <Blade> for
[14:54] <Blade> nothing
[14:55] <Blade> you system is
[14:55] <Blade> check terminal
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Blade returning nonsense/offtopic/trolling
[14:57] <Blade> lotuspsychje  давай давай
[14:58] <Blade> проблеми ще имаш ламерче
[15:18] <mason> Actually, lotuspsychje, here, you can provide some support. Is Netowork-Manager supposed to be able to dynamically control device management properties? I burned some time yesterday on this, as the man page and docs suggest the functionality is there, but it appeared not to work.
[15:20] <mason> lotuspsychje: Also, what's changed with top(1) in 20.04? If I add a column, the traditional behaviour of truncating the command column appears to be gone, and on an 80-column terminal the command column simply goes away, which is less than useful.
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> mason: if you have 20.04 support questions, please ask them in the channel, not specific to 1 user
[15:21] <mason> lotuspsychje: I'm here and I'm asking. Support away.
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> thats not how this channel works mason 
[15:21] <mason> lotuspsychje: You're not one of the ops, so please stay on topic. I have some support questions.
[15:21] <Ussat> o/ lotuspsychje 
[15:23] <mason> Ussat: You have any ideas? I was surprised about the top thing more than Network-Manager.
[15:23] <mason> With all these experts around we're sure to get to the heart of it. :)
[15:24] <Ussat> ideas about what ?
[15:24] <mason> Ussat: Two things. 1) Seems that Network-Manager offers the ability to set "device managed" for devices, but it seems to not actually do anything.
[15:25] <mason> Ussat: The background is that it ends up shipping with default config that turns off management of ethernet devices and hides it in /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d
[15:25] <mason> You can override that by dropping a modified file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d but the surprising bit is where NM offers the ability to manage that dynamically... but it does seem to work.
[15:26] <Ussat> So, this support venu is for pre-release
[15:26] <mason> Ussat: Yeah. I'm talking about 20.04.
[15:26] <Ussat> you probably want #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu
[15:26] <mason> If it ends up needing a bug I'll file one, but I wanted to check with the experts first.
[15:26] <Ussat> oh...ok
[15:26] <mason> Ussat: Nah, #ubuntu-server pushes prerelease to here.
[15:26] <Ussat> right, I did not know you were talking 20.04
[15:27] <mason> So, I've worked around it, but it was surprising.
[15:27] <Ussat> BUt, I have not encountered that, sorry
[15:27] <mason> The other bit is top(1) no longer truncates the last column if you add columns.
[15:27] <Ussat> OK, have not noticed that either, but I have been pretty busy and have not had a lot of time to play with 20.04
[15:27] <mason> top(1) elsewhere, including 18.04, will truncate the command column if you push it further right, but in 20.04, it falls right off, which violates POLA.
[15:28] <Ussat> but filing a bug seems a good idea
[15:28] <mason> Ussat: Before I do I want to know if there's something I've missed that makes it not a bug, but yeah, filing one would end up in the same place, just with a bit more overhead.
[15:32] <mason> lotuspsychje: Anyway, if you have any ideas later, I'd love to hear them, and if not I'll go ahead and file some bugs.
[15:34] <Ussat> mason, klike I said, I have had very little free time to play with 20.04, so I dont really
[15:34] <mason> Ussat: It seems pleasant enough, so you'll probably like it when you get a chance. I'm moving my hypervisors over to it, since that's a relatively safe place to test it.
[15:35] <mason> Lots of ZFS bugfixes over what 18.04 ships.
[15:37] <Ussat> Ya well, I dont use zfs so...
[15:38] <mason> Tisk. It's lovely stuff.
[15:39] <Ussat> Mabey, no need to
[15:40] <mason> Fair enough. It thrives in environments without a dedicated SAN.