| lotuspsychje | good morning | 04:13 |
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| Blade | good morning | 04:24 |
| Blade | nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F | 04:46 |
| Blade | System: | 04:46 |
| Blade | Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 5.6.0-050600rc2-generic x86_64 bits: 64 | 04:46 |
| Blade | Desktop: Gnome 3.34.3 Distro: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | Blade: stop that please | 04:47 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje part of ubuntu staff | 13:06 |
| Blade | or lame | 13:06 |
| Blade | ikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uptime | 13:22 |
| Blade | 15:22:10 up 12:34, 1 user, load average: 0,00, 0,03, 0,00 | 13:22 |
| Blade | nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ | 13:22 |
| mason | I think his issue was that it's generally bad etiquette to paste multiple lines to a channel. | 13:23 |
| Blade | ubuntu pastebin | 13:24 |
| Blade | ok | 13:24 |
| Blade | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dvd79s6wDY/ mason is good for you | 13:25 |
| mason | Sure. I tend to like bpaste, but anything other than pastebin.com is good. | 13:30 |
| mason | Blade: Why is it "UEFI [Legacy]"? Not sure what that means. | 13:31 |
| mason | Blade: Ah, you have no ESP, so it means UEFI firmware, but running in legacy mode. | 13:32 |
| mason | I'm a fan of UEFI lately, and of using the Linux EFI stub rather than a bootloader. | 13:33 |
| Blade | dual boot with win10 pro | 13:34 |
| mason | And that lets you use legacy mode? Weird. Or do you have to switch it to UEFI for Windows to boot? | 13:34 |
| Blade | work no need change | 13:35 |
| mason | Oh... It's not showing my ESP either, so I'm not sure now. | 13:35 |
| Blade | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/smwYVS3zfg/ see mason | 13:37 |
| mason | Blade: Here's my laptop for comparison: https://bpaste.net/MBEA | 13:37 |
| Blade | original kernel | 13:38 |
| Blade | in my list | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Blade mason this channel is for 20.04 support questions, not for offtopic chatting please respect the !guidelines | 14:16 |
| Blade | i test | 14:26 |
| lotuspsychje | Blade: test in silence | 14:27 |
| Blade | ok | 14:27 |
| lotuspsychje | or in #test | 14:27 |
| Blade | ubuntu is beta 20.04 lts is a test | 14:28 |
| Blade | work | 14:29 |
| Blade | no need going to test | 14:29 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje staff of ubunto or ............. | 14:34 |
| Blade | ubuntu | 14:36 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje whats is problem whith me install beta 20.04 manual install new rc2 kernel 5.6 | 14:37 |
| Blade | work | 14:38 |
| Blade | and 440mnvidia testin driver work | 14:38 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: I don't really need the correction. I was explaining netiquette and the use of pastebins as opposed to pasting in channel. That must have been obvious to you. | 14:45 |
| lotuspsychje | mason: we have an #ubuntu-discuss channel for laptop comparisson & uefi chatting | 14:46 |
| lotuspsychje | this is 20.04 support | 14:46 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: You'd set the tone with a random greeting last night. If you want the channel to be toxic, I'll be happy enough to go elsewhere. | 14:47 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje you support is | 14:47 |
| Blade | pastebin pic to see | 14:47 |
| Blade | hate | 14:47 |
| lotuspsychje | mason: feel free to continue this in #ubuntu-discuss | 14:48 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: I'm uninterested. You may have your channel back in peace. | 14:48 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje see my intall help me support me hahahahahahhaahahahaha | 14:50 |
| Blade | install | 14:50 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje you ar belgian lame | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Blade: only support questions in this channel | 14:52 |
| Blade | fpr | 14:54 |
| Blade | for | 14:54 |
| Blade | nothing | 14:54 |
| Blade | you system is | 14:55 |
| Blade | check terminal | 14:55 |
| lotuspsychje | !ops | Blade returning nonsense/offtopic/trolling | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Blade returning nonsense/offtopic/trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax | 14:56 |
| Blade | lotuspsychje давай давай | 14:57 |
| Blade | проблеми ще имаш ламерче | 14:58 |
| mason | Actually, lotuspsychje, here, you can provide some support. Is Netowork-Manager supposed to be able to dynamically control device management properties? I burned some time yesterday on this, as the man page and docs suggest the functionality is there, but it appeared not to work. | 15:18 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: Also, what's changed with top(1) in 20.04? If I add a column, the traditional behaviour of truncating the command column appears to be gone, and on an 80-column terminal the command column simply goes away, which is less than useful. | 15:20 |
| lotuspsychje | mason: if you have 20.04 support questions, please ask them in the channel, not specific to 1 user | 15:20 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: I'm here and I'm asking. Support away. | 15:21 |
| lotuspsychje | thats not how this channel works mason | 15:21 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: You're not one of the ops, so please stay on topic. I have some support questions. | 15:21 |
| Ussat | o/ lotuspsychje | 15:21 |
| mason | Ussat: You have any ideas? I was surprised about the top thing more than Network-Manager. | 15:23 |
| mason | With all these experts around we're sure to get to the heart of it. :) | 15:23 |
| Ussat | ideas about what ? | 15:24 |
| mason | Ussat: Two things. 1) Seems that Network-Manager offers the ability to set "device managed" for devices, but it seems to not actually do anything. | 15:24 |
| mason | Ussat: The background is that it ends up shipping with default config that turns off management of ethernet devices and hides it in /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d | 15:25 |
| mason | You can override that by dropping a modified file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d but the surprising bit is where NM offers the ability to manage that dynamically... but it does seem to work. | 15:25 |
| Ussat | So, this support venu is for pre-release | 15:26 |
| mason | Ussat: Yeah. I'm talking about 20.04. | 15:26 |
| Ussat | you probably want #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu | 15:26 |
| mason | If it ends up needing a bug I'll file one, but I wanted to check with the experts first. | 15:26 |
| Ussat | oh...ok | 15:26 |
| mason | Ussat: Nah, #ubuntu-server pushes prerelease to here. | 15:26 |
| Ussat | right, I did not know you were talking 20.04 | 15:26 |
| mason | So, I've worked around it, but it was surprising. | 15:27 |
| Ussat | BUt, I have not encountered that, sorry | 15:27 |
| mason | The other bit is top(1) no longer truncates the last column if you add columns. | 15:27 |
| Ussat | OK, have not noticed that either, but I have been pretty busy and have not had a lot of time to play with 20.04 | 15:27 |
| mason | top(1) elsewhere, including 18.04, will truncate the command column if you push it further right, but in 20.04, it falls right off, which violates POLA. | 15:27 |
| Ussat | but filing a bug seems a good idea | 15:28 |
| mason | Ussat: Before I do I want to know if there's something I've missed that makes it not a bug, but yeah, filing one would end up in the same place, just with a bit more overhead. | 15:28 |
| mason | lotuspsychje: Anyway, if you have any ideas later, I'd love to hear them, and if not I'll go ahead and file some bugs. | 15:32 |
| Ussat | mason, klike I said, I have had very little free time to play with 20.04, so I dont really | 15:34 |
| mason | Ussat: It seems pleasant enough, so you'll probably like it when you get a chance. I'm moving my hypervisors over to it, since that's a relatively safe place to test it. | 15:34 |
| mason | Lots of ZFS bugfixes over what 18.04 ships. | 15:35 |
| Ussat | Ya well, I dont use zfs so... | 15:37 |
| mason | Tisk. It's lovely stuff. | 15:38 |
| Ussat | Mabey, no need to | 15:39 |
| mason | Fair enough. It thrives in environments without a dedicated SAN. | 15:40 |
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