| conjo | hey yall, need a little guidence setting up my printer its a cannon xp 220 printer scanner copier, drivers for printer have been installed and i can print a page but scanning is what i need the device for could anyone give me a push in the right direction please | 01:33 |
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| conjo | after the initial setup (from plug in via usb) drivers were installed but it said i needed additional drivers that it couldnt find- that led to me getting this link | 01:34 |
| conjo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/ | 01:34 |
| conjo | my bad its an epson xp 220 psc | 01:36 |
| conjo | just instaled simple scan outcome pending might try a reboot and report back | 01:37 |
| sarnold | the reboot may be necessary, iirc the scanning software often requires special group membership | 01:39 |
| conjo | sarnold, ;) thank you for the feedback | 01:41 |
| sarnold | conjo: any luck? | 01:46 |
| conjo | sarnold, all went to plan thank you very much hope you have a great day/night | 01:46 |
| sarnold | woo! | 01:46 |
| sarnold | you too :) have fun | 01:46 |
| sarnold | (it's possible a full reboot wasn't strictly needed, but logging all the way out and back in is almost as annoying, and the reboot is useful anyway :) | 01:46 |
| conjo | made my day my dad passed and i found a photo album that i want to scan and send to my brothers interstate os this will make many people so so so so happy given the circumstances (pics of dad when he was young and groovy) :) | 01:48 |
| conjo | thanks sarnold | 01:48 |
| conjo | you take care gotta get to work | 01:49 |
| sarnold | young and groovy dad, awesome :D sorry about your dad passing :( | 01:49 |
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| Psi-Jack | Heh, well, my USB-C dock I use for my MBP also works for my Ubuntu taptop. :) | 02:04 |
| Psi-Jack | tomreyn: So you were right. It is the -40 | 02:25 |
| Psi-Jack | I just got it to boot off -28, and that is working. | 02:26 |
| Psi-Jack | However, a window comes up "System program problem detected, do you want to report the problem now", and despite clicking report problem... Nothing appears to happen. | 02:26 |
| sarnold | that report might have gone to errors.ubuntu.com rather than launchpad | 02:27 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm | 02:29 |
| Psi-Jack | So, now, bug report... | 02:34 |
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| === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin | ||
| conjo | sarnold, thank you for your kind words and empathy. Dad is much better off now even though we all miss him dearly hes not suffering anymore farwell kind soul and thank you again | 02:49 |
| hswanson | xubuntu isn't working with my brightness, can yall help? | 03:01 |
| Hellphyre23 | as in you are not able to control your brightness? | 03:05 |
| sarnold | hswanson: there's a *lot* involved there.. have you seen this page yet? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight | 03:05 |
| sarnold | (some of that page is just general linux information, but there's a lot that's also specific to arch and may not make sense on ubuntu) | 03:06 |
| hswanson | sarnold: my /sys/class/backlight is empty | 03:07 |
| JoeLlama | okay xubuntu is now installed. What do I type into terminal to get the latests update please? :) | 03:29 |
| Psi-Jack | apt update; apt upgrade | 03:29 |
| JoeLlama | oh ok just like that? | 03:30 |
| JoeLlama | here I go then | 03:30 |
| sarnold | you'll need sudo, too :) | 03:30 |
| sarnold | JoeLlama: installed? woot :) | 03:30 |
| JoeLlama | hi sarnold yes thanks for the help earlier | 03:30 |
| JoeLlama | yes, I had to change the USB burner | 03:31 |
| JoeLlama | then it worked :) | 03:31 |
| JoeLlama | the USB stick was not bootable | 03:31 |
| JoeLlama | so just type in apt update; apt upgrade ? | 03:32 |
| JoeLlama | one at a time? or both at once? | 03:32 |
| sarnold | sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -- what I usually use | 03:32 |
| sarnold | if the update fails then it won't try to upgrade anything :) | 03:32 |
| JoeLlama | okay sarnold so just like that what you typed on one line? | 03:32 |
| sarnold | yeah | 03:33 |
| JoeLlama | o k ! : ) | 03:33 |
| JoeLlama | I have a pile of these 9 and 10 inch Dell computers | 03:33 |
| JoeLlama | they are neat little machines but the 9 inch ones are intel atom n270 1.6 GHz and they are slow | 03:34 |
| JoeLlama | n250? | 03:34 |
| JoeLlama | okay so like it's doing it sarnold thanks | 03:36 |
| sarnold | JoeLlama: and now... wait. it might be a bit on a slower machine, hehe | 03:36 |
| JoeLlama | I will be learning everything I never wanted to know about linux soon :) | 03:36 |
| JoeLlama | yeah slower (: | 03:36 |
| JoeLlama | most stuff less speed | 03:37 |
| JoeLlama | but it's okay | 03:37 |
| JoeLlama | takes like 7 seconds to open the browser | 03:37 |
| sarnold | but still, a big pile of computers might be fun still :) | 03:37 |
| JoeLlama | single core two threads | 03:37 |
| JoeLlama | oh yes they are very usable! | 03:37 |
| JoeLlama | and also the 10 inch boxes have that crystal video accellerator | 03:38 |
| JoeLlama | which works with gome player and linux | 03:38 |
| JoeLlama | I can actually stream some things pretty nicely on a little box | 03:38 |
| sarnold | oh wow | 03:38 |
| sarnold | nice nice | 03:38 |
| JoeLlama | heh | 03:38 |
| JoeLlama | yup fun fun... it's a module you install | 03:38 |
| JoeLlama | otherwise the video is really bad | 03:39 |
| JoeLlama | okay sarnold it's done with updating and upgrading is that all it takes? | 03:41 |
| sarnold | JoeLlama: yeah when it goes well it's pretty painless | 03:41 |
| sarnold | you may need to restart firefox or libreoffice or chromium-browser | 03:41 |
| sarnold | those don't take well to being updated while running | 03:41 |
| JoeLlama | only a few minutes.'...... I seem to remember it took MUCH longer before | 03:41 |
| JoeLlama | oh ok :) | 03:42 |
| JoeLlama | yeah only thing running is terminal | 03:42 |
| sarnold | on the other hand, I've got something funny with my ZFS filesystems that means that if I tried to reboot rightnow, my computer would not reboot, and I'd be stuck at a maintenance shell.. | 03:42 |
| sarnold | so apt upgrade dies in a big pile of fire, because the ZFS service that mounts zfs for some reason runs after upgrades | 03:42 |
| JoeLlama | oh :( | 03:42 |
| sarnold | I'm glad for this, because now I know about it :) heh | 03:42 |
| JoeLlama | next I install VLC :) | 03:43 |
| JoeLlama | I like vlc best | 03:43 |
| sarnold | I never got the hang of vlc.. I usually use mplayer even though I keep hearing mpv is neater. or something. | 03:44 |
| JoeLlama | oh it says I can't install VLC not available on stable | 03:46 |
| JoeLlama | hrm | 03:46 |
| Bashing-om | !info vlc bionic | JoeLlama - What release ? | 03:49 |
| ubottu | JoeLlama - What release ?: vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1 (bionic), package size 32 kB, installed size 220 kB | 03:49 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: what version of ubuntu? | 03:49 |
| JoeLlama | oh I am using xubuntu 16.04?\ | 03:50 |
| JoeLlama | ubuntu is too big for this box | 03:50 |
| JoeLlama | wait I got an install button | 03:50 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: vlc is available on ubuntu 16.04 | 03:51 |
| Bashing-om | !info vlc xenial | 03:51 |
| ubottu | vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-5ubuntu0.16.04.4 (xenial), package size 1469 kB, installed size 4828 kB | 03:51 |
| JoeLlama | ok it says it's installing | 03:54 |
| faekjarz | I'd like to change the default mount options (i.e. compress-force) of ANY BTRFS, so i don't have to create fstab entries for every single device/partition - how would i do that? | 03:56 |
| JoeLlama | I definitely like xubuntu over lubuntu but I think lubuntu has even lower overhead | 03:57 |
| sarnold | faekjarz: zfs inherits properties from parent to child datasets; does btrfs has something similar? | 03:57 |
| JoeLlama | but I couldn't get wireless networking to work on lubuntu and on xubuntu it just worked | 03:58 |
| sarnold | JoeLlama: note that the low-overhead goals of lubuntu have changed recently https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/ | 04:00 |
| Bashing-om | JoeLlama: I too run old hardware - when you are the more familiar with 'buntu check out a xubuntu core install - very fast on my system. | 04:00 |
| JoeLlama | oh ok sarnold I look | 04:01 |
| JoeLlama | yes Bashing-om :) | 04:01 |
| JoeLlama | I am using xubuntu Bashing-om | 04:02 |
| faekjarz | sarnold: i don't think so. afaik, btrfs isn't as comfy as zfs, and compression (for writes) is only enabled with certain mount options. | 04:02 |
| sarnold | faekjarz: oh :( | 04:02 |
| Blade | is ubuntu channel not lubuntu xubuntu | 04:04 |
| jimklo | Question: I've got two different ubuntu servers... on one root can go into any directory and write a file, however on the other, root can only write files to folders that are owned or group root. How would this happen? | 04:04 |
| jimklo | also how might I fix so root can write to a file anywhere? | 04:05 |
| sarnold | jimklo: are there any messages in dmesg that look related? | 04:05 |
| sarnold | apparmor denials, read-only fileysstems.. | 04:05 |
| JoeLlama | ok I wander off before my battery dies :) | 04:06 |
| sarnold | how are you starting these root processes? | 04:06 |
| sarnold | bye JoeLlama :) | 04:06 |
| JoeLlama | bye sarnold (: | 04:06 |
| JoeLlama | moo :) | 04:06 |
| jimklo | sarnold: i don't see anything in dmesg but I could be missing something | 04:09 |
| jimklo | right now I'm just trying to `touch foo.txt` but the problem more related to docker | 04:10 |
| jimklo | I have a docker container, that trying to write to a bind mounted folder. failing the permissions check by root. | 04:11 |
| sarnold | ah docker changes things. root within is not the same as root without | 04:12 |
| jimklo | but removing docker out of the equation and just trying it via shell on the host to touch a file using the root user | 04:12 |
| jimklo | has the same problem | 04:12 |
| jimklo | if I can fix it on the host, then docker should be fine... it's still user id 0 trying to write the file in both cases | 04:13 |
| sarnold | jimklo: you can check if your uid 0 process still has capabilities via getpcaps | 04:14 |
| sarnold | but it seems like a difficult tool to use | 04:14 |
| jimklo | i'm not even sure how I would use that tool... touch doesn't exactly block long enough... I suppose I could find something that runs longer | 04:16 |
| sarnold | you'd run it in place of touch | 04:17 |
| sarnold | like, getpcaps $$ in an unprivileged shell prints as expected | 04:18 |
| sarnold | and in a root shell, getpcaps $$ prints as expected | 04:18 |
| sarnold | but trying to just do a sudo getpcaps '$$' prints something *stupid* that gives me the impression it's a pretty crap tool :) | 04:19 |
| jimklo | this is the kind of output when I use one of the docker pids https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N32bP72TVh/ | 04:20 |
| jimklo | '$$' has the same output | 04:21 |
| jimklo | okay... I think I sort of figured out the problem... now not quite sure how to fix it... turns out the location I'm trying to write is on a remote NFS mount | 04:24 |
| jimklo | however if I go over to the NFS host directory the file creation works fine by root | 04:24 |
| sarnold | AH! | 04:37 |
| sarnold | rootsquash? | 04:37 |
| jimklo | I think no_root_squash is what I need | 04:40 |
| jimklo | I enabled... and restarted nfs, but the client doesn't seem to like to let root do that... it just halts | 04:41 |
| jimklo | wonder if I need to actually reboot the client system | 04:41 |
| Psi-Jack | So, that "report problem" window comes up everytime I boot/login. | 04:47 |
| jimklo | @sarnold so fixing the no_root_squash and restarting the client server since it mounts that folder via fstab fixed it... | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | jimklo: sarnold is afk right now, if your issue is still there, please re-ask in the channel with all details | 05:09 |
| Psi-Jack | Drats. Heh. My fingerprint reader is not /yet/ supported. | 05:11 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmm, that on-screen keyboard can be a bit annoying. | 05:13 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: please use this channel to ask specific ubuntu questions, with all details included | 05:13 |
| Psi-Jack | Can I disable the on-screen keyboard in Ubuntu 18.04 while it's in "tablet" mode, somehow, or under certain conditions? | 05:19 |
| Citizen-Se7en | I was wondering... could anyone tell me when support for 18.04 LTS ends? | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | !18.04 | Citizen-Se7en | 05:19 |
| ubottu | Citizen-Se7en: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) is the 28th release of Ubuntu and the current LTS release. Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 05:19 |
| Citizen-Se7en | lotuspsychje: Thank you. | 05:20 |
| lotuspsychje | Citizen-Se7en: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL here's a handy list with the support + ESM times too | 05:21 |
| * Citizen-Se7en tips hat to lotuspsychje | 05:21 | |
| sarnold | jimklo: sweet! :D | 05:23 |
| sarnold | jimklo: thanks for reporting back | 05:23 |
| Psi-Jack | Universal Access shows the Screen Keyboard as off, but this comes up every time I activate a text input, while the hardware keyboard is disabled due to tablet mode. | 05:28 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: do you have a real keyboard on that tablet? | 05:28 |
| Psi-Jack | It's a tabtop (laptop that flips into a tablet) | 05:29 |
| lotuspsychje | so thats a yes? and you want to fully disable on-screen keyboard? | 05:30 |
| Psi-Jack | I mean, ultimately I'd like to be able to disable and re-enable it, under different conditions. | 05:30 |
| Psi-Jack | With it plugged in and docked for example, on my desk, there's little need to have the onscreen keyboard. But when walking about or on the couch, or elsewhere, for example, that could be very different. | 05:31 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: can you check the settings in dconf-editor ? | 05:31 |
| Psi-Jack | As it is now. in tablet mode (screen closer, but angled up, keyboard face down), a terminal window being activated, causes the onscreen keyboard to pop up, and sometimes it even moves the windows around. | 05:32 |
| Psi-Jack | And yes, I could, if I knew where it was. :) | 05:33 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: sudo apt install dconf-tools | 05:33 |
| Psi-Jack | I meant in dconf-editor. :) | 05:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: there's a handy search function in dconf now | 05:34 |
| lotuspsychje | type keyboard | 05:34 |
| Psi-Jack | org.gnome.shell.keyboard? Currently set to touch. default. | 05:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info onboard bionic | Psi-Jack try this workaround too | 05:36 |
| ubottu | Psi-Jack try this workaround too: onboard (source: onboard): Simple On-screen Keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 342 kB, installed size 1883 kB | 05:37 |
| Psi-Jack | yeah, I saw onboard, wasn't installed. | 05:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: seems there is a bug #1760399 | 05:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1760399 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Cosmic) "New On-screen keyboard does not appear automatically when selecting some text fields" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1760399 | 05:37 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmm, well, I installed onboard.. | 05:40 |
| Psi-Jack | And now... There are two on screen keyboards. LOL | 05:40 |
| lotuspsychje | disable the gnome stock one now Psi-Jack | 05:41 |
| Psi-Jack | How? I don't even know how it's enabled in the first place. LOL | 05:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: you just said you found a dconf value set to 'touch'? | 05:41 |
| Psi-Jack | Correct | 05:42 |
| lotuspsychje | set to disable? | 05:42 |
| leden | Psi-Jack, Settings -- Universal Access -- Typing --onscreen keyboard off | 05:42 |
| Psi-Jack | I rebooted. That actually shows me a different situation, in dconf, org.gnome.desktop.screensaver.embedded-keyboard-command now is set to 'onboard -xid', so now, it's now popping up the onscreen keyboard all the time. :D | 05:44 |
| Psi-Jack | because I configured onboard to not pop up when an external keyboard was connected (my wireless keyboard, currently. :) | 05:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Well. it... Almost worked. | 05:45 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm... Not quite working with disable, as it just got itself back on again. :/ | 05:49 |
| littlekimmy | hi | 05:50 |
| littlekimmy | how do i know which ports are unlclosed by my firewall ufw | 05:50 |
| littlekimmy | and which ports does gsconnect use by default, i know they are working and as i can use gsconnect on kdeconnect phone just fine | 05:50 |
| Psi-Jack | lotuspsychje: Yah, that didn't disable the gnome-shell onscreen keyboard. | 06:01 |
| littlekimmy | i want to find out the package for `ip` cmd ? apt-file search ip shows tremendous amounts of data | 06:04 |
| Psi-Jack | iproute2 | 06:05 |
| littlekimmy | i know the answer | 06:06 |
| littlekimmy | but the search function is nost eleegant | 06:06 |
| alazy | What controls whether the (lightdm, I think) login screen shows an option to select a different desktop environment (xfce, i3, etc)? | 06:40 |
| ajrs | Hi | 06:42 |
| ajrs | I'm running ubuntu 19.10 | 06:42 |
| ajrs | and I think my Asus VP28UQG monitors are running at 30 Hz instead of 60Hz | 06:43 |
| ajrs | I have a 1660Ti Nvidia GPU | 06:43 |
| ajrs | the monitors are 4K | 06:43 |
| alazy | I have i3.desktop at /usr/share/xsessions/ but I have no choice upon login. There's simply no button for it. What do? | 06:46 |
| tatertots | ajrs: some displays can only run at 30hz at > 1080P resolutions | 06:51 |
| SwedeMike | ajrs: are they connected using displayport? | 06:54 |
| ajrs | yes | 06:54 |
| ajrs | I created a new xorg.conf | 06:54 |
| ajrs | and executed cvt -r 3840 2160 60 | 06:54 |
| ajrs | I'll stick that in the xorg | 06:55 |
| ajrs | it might work | 06:55 |
| kenperkins | ok got my new thinkpad today (yay), during pre-install, wifi works fine (19.10 usb boot iso), but once it's installed, no wifi | 06:58 |
| kenperkins | i.e. if you boot but don't install from usb, i have wifi, but "no adapters" when done with install. | 06:58 |
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| nolash | I need libmysqlclient-dev (mysql_config) and npm at the same time, but they conflict in libssl1.0 / libssl1.1.x. Is there a workaround? | 07:09 |
| nolash | ubuntu 18.04 | 07:09 |
| tomreyn | nolash: maybe you can install npm from a third party. or you can uninstall libmysqlclient-dev after building what you needed to build, then install npm. | 09:51 |
| plut4rch | does anyone here use cherrytree for notetaking? | 09:53 |
| tomreyn | please don't poll but post (on a pastebin) errors on ubuntu packages, and inquire about them, providing system and installation details. | 09:56 |
| Alexa | Dear friends, how to make a keyboard shortcut follow certain keyboard instructions? Currently I'm writing a paperwork and constantly switching between tabs. And often I use certain keys (Down, Home, Ctrl + shift + right, ctrl + c) then I switch tab and look it up in dictionary. How to bind it to a keyboard shortcut? | 10:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | So a keyboard macro not a shortcut? A shortcut would be a series of keys to trigger an single action normally controlling the DE or applications, a macro would follow a pre programmed function or mouse action, keypresses etc. | 11:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | So you would have a keyboard shortcut pointing at a macro in the cause you describe. | 11:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I would imagine there are better ways to do what you need (!xy) but maybe look at autokey and xdotool | 11:07 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I am trying to use searchmonkey but default text editor and file manager is not set | 11:32 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I set them in system but searchmonkey still does not get them | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | !info searchmonkey | 11:34 |
| ubottu | searchmonkey (source: searchmonkey): search files using regular expressions aiming to replace find/grep tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-1build1 (eoan), package size 412 kB, installed size 794 kB | 11:34 |
| RonaldsMazitis | Run configuration to set default text editor: error | 11:34 |
| tomreyn | i couldn't tell personally, never used it. | 11:35 |
| RonaldsMazitis | well geany does not do grep | 11:35 |
| RonaldsMazitis | cmmon google does not give any answers | 11:38 |
| lotuspsychje | !patience | RonaldsMazitis | 11:39 |
| ubottu | RonaldsMazitis: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 11:39 |
| lotuspsychje | RonaldsMazitis: did you check the manpage yet? | 11:41 |
| RonaldsMazitis | It's a gui programm | 11:42 |
| RonaldsMazitis | so nope | 11:42 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I'm just amazed grep does not have working GUI app | 11:42 |
| lotuspsychje | RonaldsMazitis: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/searchmonkey.1.html | 11:42 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I don't see how can I set default text editor | 11:43 |
| RonaldsMazitis | for search monkey | 11:43 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I already updated-alternatives and added geany | 11:44 |
| RonaldsMazitis | okay | 11:47 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I might have found it's in seamonkeys settings | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:56 |
| xenia | Hey everyone I'm trying to download a file in my home directory via wget | 12:03 |
| xenia | but i'm getting permission denied | 12:03 |
| xenia | just created a new user | 12:03 |
| xenia | I don't think I'm required to use sudo with wget | 12:03 |
| tomreyn | it certainly depends on whether the user you're working as is allowed to write to this directory | 12:05 |
| tomreyn | touch test && echo 'test file written successfully, run "rm test" to remove it' || echo 'failed to write test file, user may lack permission to write here.' | 12:06 |
| xenia | yeah it wont write | 12:08 |
| xenia | I just did chown usr /home | 12:08 |
| tomreyn | the /home directory should be owned by root | 12:09 |
| xenia | Yeah I should just have the x so I can access the sub directory | 12:09 |
| xenia | but already tried making a dir inside the home and doing that | 12:09 |
| tomreyn | are you manually creating a home directory for a new user account you added? | 12:10 |
| xenia | yeah | 12:10 |
| xenia | one wasn't created | 12:10 |
| tomreyn | the "adduser" command would automatically create one | 12:10 |
| tomreyn | how did you create the user? | 12:11 |
| xenia | that's exactly what I did | 12:11 |
| Aavar | This might be the wrong place to ask but. I have a server with a 2-drive raid (raid 1 i believe). I am running out of space and I am thinking about expanding the array with one or two more drives. Whar raid-level would you recommend? I am thinking 3-4 drives with one of them being a pairity-pairity-drive. Is this recommended and what raid level would this be? | 12:11 |
| Blade | xenia no chance to do | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !crosspost | Aavar | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Aavar: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 12:11 |
| tomreyn | xenia: which ubuntu version are you running there, is it really ubuntu? have you customized how users are created? | 12:11 |
| xenia | yeha it's ubuntu, I think that hte company that's hosting the vps | 12:11 |
| Aavar | lotuspsychje: ohh... sorry. Won't happen again. | 12:12 |
| xenia | is using a moded image | 12:12 |
| tomreyn | xenia: then it's not actually ubuntu | 12:12 |
| xenia | yeah true just so weird | 12:12 |
| tomreyn | xenia: you can still ask questions about this ubuntu derivate in ##linux | 12:13 |
| xenia | alright thank you | 12:18 |
| TomaszWarrior | Hi | 12:59 |
| TomaszWarrior | I have problem with installing ubuntu with dual boot with windows | 12:59 |
| TomaszWarrior | I have ssd drive | 12:59 |
| TomaszWarrior | 4 windows partitions | 12:59 |
| TomaszWarrior | 30GB of unallocated space | 13:00 |
| TomaszWarrior | and install failed | 13:00 |
| TomaszWarrior | /dev/sdb: No medium found | 13:00 |
| TomaszWarrior | But ssd drive is /dev/nvme0n1 | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | TomaszWarrior: can you pastebin "sudo parted -ls" | 13:01 |
| TomaszWarrior | 1 sec | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | TomaszWarrior: also more details, where does the installer fail does it boot to the try ubuntu screen even? | 13:01 |
| TomaszWarrior | https://pastebin.com/dsy82txk | 13:02 |
| TomaszWarrior | Yeah it boots to try ubuntu | 13:02 |
| TomaszWarrior | I select the partition | 13:03 |
| TomaszWarrior | format to ext4 | 13:03 |
| TomaszWarrior | Instalation goes on | 13:03 |
| TomaszWarrior | And fails | 13:03 |
| TomaszWarrior | It trying to open /dev/sdb | 13:04 |
| TomaszWarrior | But I dont have that | 13:04 |
| TomaszWarrior | stdin Invalid argument | 13:04 |
| TomaszWarrior | /init: line 49: cant open /dev/sdb: No medium found | 13:05 |
| Psi-Jack | So, yeah, this seems to not be going away. "System program problem detected", and every time, I report problem... But, every login it comes back. | 13:22 |
| Psi-Jack | Bleh, nevermind.. I deleted the stuff in /var/crash/* after having reported it several dozen times already. Apparently it doesn't clean itself up at all. | 13:27 |
| hexhaxtron | How can I load the nvidia driver on boot and on Xorg? | 13:37 |
| hexhaxtron | I think it's not loading but it's installed. | 13:38 |
| Blade | my is 440 work | 13:43 |
| TomaszWarrior | Can I see channel hostory? | 13:43 |
| Blade | Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.7 driver: modesetting,nvidia | 13:44 |
| Blade | unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz | 13:44 |
| Blade | whats is roblem | 13:44 |
| Samurai_One | hello | 13:44 |
| TomaszWarrior | hello | 13:44 |
| TomaszWarrior | Can I see channel history? | 13:44 |
| TomaszWarrior | Older messages? | 13:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Perhaps in your own logs. | 13:45 |
| TomaszWarrior | Im on web chat | 13:45 |
| Samurai_One | Are my messages getting through ? | 13:45 |
| TomaszWarrior | I have a probem with installing ubuntu on nvme | 13:45 |
| TomaszWarrior | Drive | 13:45 |
| TomaszWarrior | It tries to open /dev/sdb | 13:45 |
| TomaszWarrior | But it dosent exists | 13:46 |
| TomaszWarrior | How can I go around that problem? | 13:46 |
| Samurai_One | Hello can anyone me with an vm ubuntu server? | 13:46 |
| EriC^^ | TomaszWarrior: can you take a screenshot of the "something else" menu in the installer (for custom partioning) | 13:47 |
| TomaszWarrior | EriC^^ 1 sec I need to boot again | 13:48 |
| EriC^^ | TomaszWarrior: do you not have nvme there? | 13:48 |
| TomaszWarrior | 2min | 13:48 |
| TomaszWarrior | I have | 13:48 |
| TomaszWarrior | I'll be back soon | 13:48 |
| TomaszWarrior | And show you | 13:48 |
| Psi-Jack | Okay, well, it's time to report that Intel iwl bug in kernel 5.3.0-40 heh | 13:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | something is trying to install to sdb which doesn't seem to exist. | 13:49 |
| === pinpox- is now known as pinpox | ||
| PaulW2U | Samurai_One: without knowing what your question is who can say. Please just ask and wait patiently for a reply ... | 13:49 |
| Samurai_One | When i run systemctl status networking.service i get Failed to start Raise network interfaces. | 13:50 |
| TomaszWarrior | I'm back | 13:50 |
| TomaszWarrior | EriC^^ what do you need to see? | 13:50 |
| EriC^^ | TomaszWarrior: go to "something else' menu | 13:51 |
| EriC^^ | !pm | TomaszWarrior | 13:51 |
| ubottu | TomaszWarrior: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. | 13:51 |
| TomaszWarrior | where do I post screenshot? | 13:52 |
| EriC^^ | any image site imgur.com | 13:52 |
| TomaszWarrior | https://imgur.com/a/5UNupUT | 13:53 |
| EriC^^ | that looks correct | 13:54 |
| EriC^^ | wha happens when you install | 13:54 |
| TomaszWarrior | It fails | 13:54 |
| TomaszWarrior | Wait a sec | 13:55 |
| TomaszWarrior | I'll give u a screenshot | 13:55 |
| harelu | hey peeps, I have an extremely weird issue with nodejs and npm. Using any form of 'npm install' command results in an "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" error, and the terminal session gets messed up where the cursor completely dissapears until i restart the terminal but im guessing this is some visual bug | 13:58 |
| harelu | ive scoured 20 pages of google and no mention of this illegal instruction stuff other than some raspbery pi specific issues | 13:59 |
| harelu | using the latest versions of both npm and node | 13:59 |
| Samurai_One | when i use the command sudo apt-get update all get our fails and could not resolve i think have messed up something to do with my ip because i cant do any from of updating or upgrading | 14:08 |
| Samurai_One | would any one know why this would be happening ? | 14:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: can you pastebin please | 14:17 |
| Samurai_One | what do should i pastebin | 14:20 |
| Samurai_One | what should i pastebin? | 14:20 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: you said apt gets fails and does not resolve? | 14:21 |
| Samurai_One | give me a second | 14:23 |
| badsektur | is there a thing that will show the current spotify song playing in my screen or title bar, like all the time? | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | badsektur: you could try asking at the spotify support community: contact: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Linux/bd-p/desktop_linux | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | !pm | Samurai_One | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Samurai_One: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. | 14:35 |
| Samurai_One | https://pastebin.com/1CfAhtRE | 14:35 |
| Samurai_One | here is the pastebin | 14:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: dependency errors often occur when adding external ppa's to your system | 14:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: did you add external ppa's? | 14:37 |
| ecov | @badsekturlook into conky? | 14:38 |
| Samurai_One | what our ppa's? | 14:38 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: pastebin: inxi -rc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 please | 14:40 |
| Samurai_One | i cant use that command | 14:43 |
| Samurai_One | and when i try and install it via (sudo apt install inxi) i cant connect to the Ubuntu it gives me Could not resolve | 14:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: ok pastebin your sources.list then | 14:45 |
| ducasse | Samurai_One: can you pastebin the output of 'apt policy'? | 14:45 |
| Samurai_One | I am using an Ubuntu on a vm by the way | 14:45 |
| Samurai_One | what command do i have to use | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Samurai_One: ducasse already asked you the command | 14:51 |
| Samurai_One | is this the command apt policy | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:52 |
| Battle | I'm so confused here. I have had my providers completely replace our dedicated server, HDDs, everything. i reinstalled ubuntu 18 and my system is randomly after a few hours, shutting down without writing anything to logs, it just all literally stops. Almost like the power plug being pulled kind of situation... the only thing I can think of now is that it has got to be something on the providers | 14:53 |
| Battle | end? power supply issues (not the PSU inside the case) but the feed to the server or something? | 14:53 |
| Battle | can things like GPU drivers/network drivers cause system shutdowns like this? | 14:57 |
| Samurai_One | i cant use that one either | 15:00 |
| Samurai_One | nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known | 15:00 |
| jeremy31 | Samurai_One: replace termbin.com with 5.39.93.71 | 15:01 |
| Samurai_One | apt policy | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 | 15:02 |
| Samurai_One | WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. | 15:02 |
| kenperkins | ok, so this is a wierd one: when I boot to a brand new laptop with 19.10 usb stick (trial mode), my built in wifi adapter works fine. When I install, I'm prompted for wifi selection and creds during setup, but when it boots into the main os, my wifi is disabled with errors in dmesg about the iwlwifi failing | 15:03 |
| kenperkins | don't know where to start | 15:03 |
| leftyfb | Battle: contact your provider. They need to be the ones troubleshooting this | 15:04 |
| Samurai_One | this may be help when i use sudo apt-get install -f it gives me a winbind.service failed see system "systemctl status winbind.service" and "journalctl -xe futher down it gives me Errors were encountered while processing: | 15:05 |
| Samurai_One | winbind | 15:05 |
| Samurai_One | libpam-winbind:amd64 | 15:05 |
| Samurai_One | libnss-winbind:amd64 | 15:05 |
| Samurai_One | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 15:05 |
| tds | Battle: check the ipmi sel, it may have details of what's causing it exactly | 15:05 |
| leftyfb | tds: you're assuming their server supports ipmi | 15:06 |
| tds | i'd expect most servers to | 15:07 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: You might want to use Ubuntu 18.04.1 and stay away from the 5.3 kernels for now | 15:08 |
| leftyfb | Samurai_One: please post your sources.list or the output from "apt policy" to pastebin | 15:08 |
| Battle | leftleg_ yeah thats what I'm thinking too @ provider should be troubleshooting this... | 15:09 |
| Battle | tds I've installed it, I guess I have to wait for system to crash now ? | 15:09 |
| leftyfb | Battle: contact your provider. | 15:10 |
| tds | ipmi should have already been collecting logs, so if you've installed ipmitool you can get the event list from there | 15:10 |
| kenperkins | @jeremy31I'd love more insight? I've been using 5.3.5 on my main desktop for ~3+ months | 15:11 |
| Battle | leftleg_ talking of providers, they've just sent me an email saying that they believe my issue is related to r8169 network driver, and I should install r8168 instead | 15:12 |
| leftyfb | Battle: have they confirmed that the issue is your losing network and not actually freezing up or losing power? | 15:13 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: are you having issues with 5.3.0-40? | 15:14 |
| Battle | leftyfb they said: "It was not showing any link on side of the network interface but generally running normally. | 15:15 |
| Battle | We guess the following issue might describe the situation of your server " | 15:15 |
| kenperkins | well, I don't know exactly what's going on. The wifi doesn't work on a brand new laptop, with a completely fresh install. it works when you use the ubuntu trial mode from the usb stick, and it's functional enough during the os install wizard, but then it bombs out in dmesg and doesn't work | 15:16 |
| kenperkins | does that mean it's a kernel problem? | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje | kenperkins: volunteers are trying to help you, when asked a question could you please respond? | 15:17 |
| compdoc | kenperkins, no, it might mean its using the wrong driver | 15:17 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: Likely kernel/firmware issue | 15:17 |
| kenperkins | @lotuspsychje I'm trying to answer the questions. I honestly don't know where the problem originates, if I did, I would ask more specific questions :( | 15:17 |
| compdoc | you can find which driver, then find which wifi chip your modem uses, and see if its correct | 15:17 |
| leftyfb | Battle: they don't give you any sort of out of band access to the server? | 15:18 |
| two4tea | Hi All | 15:18 |
| lotuspsychje | kenperkins: jeremy31 asked you if you encounter your issue on 5.3.0-40 | 15:18 |
| kenperkins | yes, i am using the 5.3.0-40 kernel | 15:18 |
| kenperkins | https://gist.github.com/kenperkins/b93a0f8b060a1ab755ffca1edb788c9f are the dmesg logs | 15:19 |
| kenperkins | @compdoc if I boot back into the trial mode, what command should I run at the terminal to see the firmware or drivers it's using there (where it works?) | 15:20 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: post URL for> iwconfig | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:21 |
| compdoc | kenperkins, this would explain it better than me: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting-hardware-check.html | 15:22 |
| kenperkins | is termbin a nice little pipeable log stash? nice | 15:22 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: yes and no ads that I see | 15:22 |
| kenperkins | I'm on pihole anyway so :shrug: rebooting the laptop into trial mode | 15:23 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: It is possible that wifi power management could cause issues | 15:25 |
| kenperkins | http://termbin.com/7d67 | 15:26 |
| kenperkins | that's from trial mode, working as expected, let me grep dmesg | 15:26 |
| Battle | leftyfb they do give me remote KVM , but what they're saying I do not believe to be honest. | 15:26 |
| Battle | leftyfb they're saying the system remains online but network goes down, if thats the case, surely kern.log and syslog would still show activity from other things like cronjobs and so on? | 15:27 |
| leftyfb | Battle: ok, then remote KVM in and watch it to see what happens when you lose ssh connectivity to it. I'd say run dmesg -Tw | 15:27 |
| kenperkins | and here's dmesg in trial mode, looking to see if the versions are the same | 15:27 |
| kenperkins | http://termbin.com/ql9c | 15:27 |
| Battle | leftyfb I thought of this too @ remote KVM and wait and watch, but KVM also goes down. but in the past, when network went down, KVM still worked fine...which further enhances my belief the system is not running like they claim... | 15:28 |
| leftyfb | Battle: ok, then tell them that kvm also goes down when you lose connectivity, pointing to not a network issue and something they need to address. Good luck | 15:28 |
| kenperkins | firmware and tlv_fq_fseq versions appear identical | 15:28 |
| Battle | leftyfb thank you i will | 15:29 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: Could be power management being enabled in that new kernel | 15:29 |
| tds | Battle: are you saying that there's nothing in logs at all from when the server (and the kvm) dropped offline? | 15:30 |
| kenperkins | @jeremy31 I don't see why not, but I also have no idea how to digest the dmesg logs for iwlwifi to identify if there's a smoking gun | 15:30 |
| tds | if the server stopped running and you lost connectivity to the kvm as well, that sounds more like power issues than network | 15:31 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: I have seen other issues with wifi power management, first step is to disable it | 15:31 |
| leftyfb | tds: it's what I've been saying all along | 15:31 |
| leftyfb | they need to take this up with the provider | 15:31 |
| Battle | tds that is correct. I will check again now (since ive only just formatted after having them replace the whole machine) but prior to the replacement, nothing in logs..nothing indicating the reason for the crash at all. it just literally would die anywhere from 2-10hours of being online. SSH + KVM would also go down with it | 15:32 |
| Battle | right now they're claiming that the driver can cause the system to crash ...so im going to follow their guide to downgrading the driver..and if that doesnt help then I go back to them and see what they say... | 15:33 |
| leftyfb | Battle: here's an idea. Don't bother putting anything on it. Just connect via your KVM, boot into whatever BIOS or interface you get ... let it sit there and see if it dies. If it does, that is 100% unrelated to any OS and is on them to resolve | 15:33 |
| leftyfb | Battle: how long does it take for it to lose connectivity? | 15:33 |
| Battle | leftyfb anywhere from 2-10hours so far | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | Battle: can you go that long without running anything on it? | 15:34 |
| Battle | leftyfb ideally not but I think we have to rule out software so they need to do something about it and we don't realy havfe much of a choice but to test that | 15:35 |
| Battle | the earliest point in KVM I can interupt the boot process is when it shows what kernel of ubuntu to boot, would that be acceptable? | 15:36 |
| leftyfb | yep | 15:36 |
| compdoc | kenperkins, this shows the driver: lshw -C network | 15:36 |
| leftyfb | they'll probably still try to toss blame, but that would be silly to blame what is basically syslinux/isolinux | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | Battle: can't you stop it on choosing your boot device? | 15:37 |
| jeremy31 | compdoc: we know the driver is iwlwifi | 15:37 |
| Battle | leftyfb before I venture down this route of installing this 8168 network driver, how can I check what driver is currently installed? | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | Battle: sudo ethtool -i <interface> | 15:38 |
| Battle | leftyfb I will try, i've not needed to do that but I will try | 15:38 |
| jeremy31 | Battle: check in terminal> lsmod | grep r8169 | 15:38 |
| tds | if you can get away without it running for a bit, might be worth asking the provider to just boot it into whatever they like for diagnosing machines, and to reproduce the crash themselves | 15:38 |
| Battle | driver: r8169 | 15:38 |
| Battle | yeah i guess I'm on that bad one then | 15:38 |
| kenperkins | yes, it's iwlwifi driver | 15:38 |
| kenperkins | @compdoc/jeremy31& | 15:38 |
| compdoc | jeremy31, you guys mentioned the kernel when I came in. Is the kernel the same when it boots from usb? | 15:39 |
| leftyfb | jeremy31: to be fair, your command doesn't check which driver, it assumes 1 and tells you nothing about any other possibilities | 15:39 |
| kenperkins | let me double check, I thought so, but let's be sure | 15:39 |
| jeremy31 | compdoc: the 19.04 would have a much older kernel than 5.3.0-40 | 15:40 |
| kenperkins | Ah. that's got to be it. | 15:40 |
| kenperkins | the full install is 5.3.0-40, as I said above, the trial mode is 5.3.0-18 | 15:40 |
| jeremy31 | 19.10 would have older kernel | 15:40 |
| kenperkins | yep, different kernels between usb trial mode and install from same stick (19.10 iso usb) | 15:42 |
| kenperkins | ok, so at least I've identified something different | 15:43 |
| compdoc | is 19.10 important? I like the LTS versions | 15:43 |
| kenperkins | only inasmuch as I was hoping to run the same kernel on my desktop and laptop so that I have consistent versions across them (as much as possible). def not married to it | 15:44 |
| kenperkins | my homebuilt desktop has been bulletproof with 5.3.5-050305 | 15:44 |
| kenperkins | tbh, I figured this would be easier with a laptop :( how naive I must be | 15:45 |
| compdoc | 18.04 is in its 4th release, I think. very stable | 15:45 |
| kenperkins | ok, so for testing, I must have the 5.3.0-18 kernel on the usb stick, is there a way I could use that to downgrade for now? (for testing) | 15:46 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: I don't think that kernel is available on the repos | 15:47 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | https://tinyurl.com/Dick-in-a-Box-SNL-Digital-Sho https://tinyurl.com/Dick-in-a-Box-SNL-Digital-Sho | 15:47 |
| kenperkins | I'm going to download the lts iso for testing | 15:47 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | kenperkins: yes the LTS is good | 15:48 |
| lotuspsychje | UndefinedIsNotAF: not here please | 15:48 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | lotuspsychje sorry wrong chan, but its a good music | 15:48 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | lotuspsychje: you don't like Justin Timberlake? | 15:48 |
| kenperkins | i wouldn't click on that for $1000dollars | 15:48 |
| lotuspsychje | UndefinedIsNotAF: only support questions related to ubuntu here please | 15:49 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | ok i though i Waggie as on #ubuntu-offtopic | 15:49 |
| kenperkins | sigh and my 100mbit internet is running at 5mbits atm | 15:49 |
| lotuspsychje | kenperkins: you too, keep ontopic | 15:50 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | kenperkins: do you still see cat pron videos in 4k with 5mbits? | 15:50 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: 5mb over wifi? | 15:51 |
| kenperkins | jeremy31: no from my 1G wired desktop to 100Mbit WAN link | 15:53 |
| kenperkins | I'm speculating that ubuntu iso servers are slow | 15:53 |
| Psi-Jack | Wow. Well, that was... Wierd.. For some reason, specifically on Ubuntu, Enpass was showing up freaking massively. It took setting QT_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTORS=1.0 and QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0, in ~/.xprofile to stop this from being so massively oversized, and be sized like everything else. I'd like to know why that is.. | 15:54 |
| kenperkins | cool, found a bug report on kernel, sounds similar: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206097 | 15:55 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 206097 in network-wireless "Failed firmware loading or bugged firmware in iwlmvm/iwlwifi" [Normal,New] | 15:55 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | I would like to know if this bluetooth device works on Ubuntu: | 15:55 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | https://www.amazon.fr/Masseur-Portable-Vibration-Silicone-Imperm%C3%A9able/dp/B07Y6BZX87/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=bluetooth+sex+toy&qid=1582386871&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE2RFI5MUFLN1JTWVcmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzMTI4NjMyTzFLVTJYSDZHV0RQJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4MDAyNTNBWFc1UEs2NUZDUFUmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3Q | 15:55 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | mZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl Any idea? | 15:55 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | thanks | 15:55 |
| compdoc | kenperkins, fresh install of 18.04.4: driver=iwlwifi driver version=5.3.0-28-generic firmware=46.6bf1df06.0 | 15:56 |
| kenperkins | @compdoc will be doing as soon as the iso is done (For testing) | 15:56 |
| Psi-Jack | Oh? -40? No updates applied? | 15:56 |
| kenperkins | maybe longer if it works ;) | 15:56 |
| Psi-Jack | Err, 28, not 40? | 15:56 |
| compdoc | Psi-Jack, it needs an update | 15:57 |
| compdoc | let me do that | 15:57 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, for me, -28 worked, -40 broke. | 15:57 |
| compdoc | whew, still connects | 16:00 |
| compdoc | driver=iwlwifi driver version=5.3.0-40-generic firmware=46.6bf1df06.0 | 16:01 |
| kenperkins | thanks gents, no more time for now, will communicate back later | 16:01 |
| compdoc | good luck | 16:01 |
| kenperkins | kiddo soccer game | 16:01 |
| Psi-Jack | compdoc: Lucky you. Mine stops working from 40. :/ | 16:01 |
| compdoc | guess its the modem | 16:01 |
| compdoc | intel Wireless-AC 9260 | 16:02 |
| kenperkins | so lots of us are having similar issues? is that what we're saying? | 16:02 |
| compdoc | two out of three | 16:02 |
| kenperkins | I added my details to the kernel bug I found, but will continue to research | 16:03 |
| Psi-Jack | Ahh, mine's the Intel 9560 | 16:03 |
| kenperkins | @Psi-Jack same here | 16:03 |
| kenperkins | -40 no work, -18 work, about to install 18.04 lts for comparison | 16:03 |
| Psi-Jack | kenperkins: Yep. There's an open bug report kinda related to the 9560. | 16:03 |
| compdoc | I dodged a bullet :) | 16:03 |
| kenperkins | thinkpad x1 g7 | 16:03 |
| kenperkins | link me @Psi-Jack? | 16:04 |
| Psi-Jack | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1833065 | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1833065 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu Disco) "Intel WiFi (CNVi) module has no function on Comet Lake [8086:02f0]" [Undecided,New] | 16:04 |
| kenperkins | perfect | 16:04 |
| Psi-Jack | I posted earlier, too. Trying to flag it as "This bug effects me", but it keeps giving me an error. | 16:05 |
| kenperkins | > Psi-Jack (erenfro) wrote 2 hours ago: lol | 16:05 |
| Psi-Jack | Yep. :) | 16:05 |
| kenperkins | I should piggy back | 16:05 |
| Psi-Jack | Your CPU also Comet Lake? :) | 16:06 |
| Psi-Jack | Still annoyed by the QT-specific scaling issue only seen, for me, on Ubuntu. Fedora did not have that issue. | 16:07 |
| kenperkins | yes, 10170u | 16:08 |
| Psi-Jack | i5-10210U, myself. | 16:08 |
| kenperkins | i figured 6 is better than 4, who knows, clockrate is lower | 16:09 |
| kenperkins | i bought for longevity hopefully | 16:09 |
| Psi-Jack | Thankfully my USB-C Dock I use for my MBP also worked for Ubuntu flawlessly, so I was easily able to get it online and able to report that bug appropriately. :) | 16:09 |
| kenperkins | i ordered a usb-c adapter amazon prime next day last night | 16:09 |
| lotuspsychje | !ot | kenperkins Psi-Jack | 16:10 |
| ubottu | kenperkins Psi-Jack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 16:10 |
| kenperkins | trying to install 18.04lts when booting to usb, I get grub? is there something i need to do to kick into install? | 16:11 |
| compdoc | no, should just work | 16:13 |
| compdoc | sounds like 18.04 has the same kernel, so might be a waste of time? | 16:14 |
| Psi-Jack | To further detail, I'm running 14" with 1080P, /not/ 4K, and for some reason, like I said, Qt apps, at least Enpass specifically, and only on Ubuntu, it seemed to be 2~3 times larger than it should be, and I really would like to understand why that is. | 16:15 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, a scale factor, probably | 16:20 |
| CarloWood | Hi - asking here because of https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+gethelp ... I linked a program with: /usr/bin/clang++ ... object files ... -o socket_task_test -Wl,-rpath,/opt/gitache/libcwd_r/888f62c44fd64f1486176bf9e35b36f79612790017c31f95e117fc59743a54ca/lib ... other libs ... /opt/gitache/libcwd_r/888f62c44fd64f1486176bf9e35b36f79612790017c31f95e117fc59743a54ca/lib/libcwd_r.so.5.3.1 | 16:30 |
| dakar | i'm looking for a way to unlock an encrypted root disk through the presence of a nearby bluetooth device or something similar. the idea is to render the disk useless if connected to a device that's not in the same physical location (or near it). a key on a usbdisk doesn't solve this. | 16:30 |
| dakar | that is, assuming the device AND the disk are stolen and taken elsewhere, the disk can't be unlocked. | 16:31 |
| dakar | i'm not looking for some top notch security but i'd like to have some level of security this way | 16:31 |
| dakar | any idea how to go down that route? | 16:31 |
| CarloWood | It didn't work when running socket_task_test because I had LD_LIBRARY_PATH set pointing to a different install. Since when is LD_LIBRARY_PATH preceding -Wl,-rpath and how can I work around this? | 16:31 |
| dakar | tang requires an additional server and that's not feasible. | 16:32 |
| CarloWood | dakar: you can add an extra key to LUKS - ie some file of 4096 bytes with random data. And you can specify a file of that size to read in /etc/crypttab. So, I support what is needed to have the latter file only available when the bluetooth device is available... | 16:40 |
| CarloWood | I did this where I put all such files of all my encrypted partitions on another encrypted partition, so I don't have to type the pass phrase more than once: I first mount the first encrypted partition and then can automatically mount all the others. | 16:41 |
| Psi-Jack | ioria: Yeah, but, where, in Ubuntu specifically? This does not happen on Fedora 30 or 31, or any other distros I'd tested before settling with Ubuntu. | 16:41 |
| Psi-Jack | Though, I probably should check out other Qt apps and see if it's limited to enpass, or everything qt. | 16:41 |
| CarloWood | If you can find a "disk over bluetooth" that you can mount at boot time automatically before mounting any other disks (which should technically be possible) then that should work no? | 16:42 |
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| ioria | Psi-Jack, search the startup script (probably something like runenpass.sh) and set export QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=1 above the exaec line | 16:44 |
| Psi-Jack | I mean, I ultimately "fixed" it with an ~/.xprofile bandaid. | 16:44 |
| CarloWood | dakar: How about using a cable to an usb stick that you glue inside a heavy table? A thief, at least, is likely to just unplug the cable and not take the heavy table with them. | 16:46 |
| dakar | CarloWood i was thinking more about using the output of `hcitool name AB:CD:EF:00:11:22` as the password or something? | 16:46 |
| Psi-Jack | Ugh... Now that other onscreen keyboard (gnome's own?) keeps popping up again, and I thought I finally disabled that annoying thing. | 16:47 |
| CarloWood | dakar: that shouldn't be a problem - just write that output to an encrypted /tmp fs. The only problem left is to get that script to run before you try to mount all other partitions. | 16:47 |
| dakar | CarloWood there are no other partitions. i have /boot on an unencrypted device (sdcard in this case), and i have / on an encrypted device that i wish to protect | 16:48 |
| CarloWood | Surely you have a tmpfs? | 16:49 |
| CarloWood | tmpfs 11G 4,5M 11G 1% /tmp | 16:49 |
| CarloWood | /dev/mapper/ata-WDC_WD5003ABYZ-011FA0_WD-WMAYP0MAMT68-part2_crypt 334G 31G 287G 10% /encrypted | 16:49 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NPcFzYfRo4 [yt] Alaska Thunderfuck - Anus [Official] [3 minutes 24 secondes] | 16:49 |
| CarloWood | tmpfs uses the swap - which is encrypted with a random key every boot. | 16:50 |
| dakar | i have no swap. | 16:50 |
| CarloWood | Make one :p | 16:50 |
| dakar | okay, but then what? | 16:50 |
| CarloWood | Or a loopback device | 16:50 |
| dakar | this is a raspberry pi with only 4 gb ram, so i'd hate to load too much on it | 16:51 |
| CarloWood | The point is that you need to put something that looks like a file in your /etc/cryptab to read the key from. | 16:51 |
| CarloWood | Maybe you can create a block device thingy.. that is actually a process (like /dev/null)? Not sure, it would be cool if you could create a /dev/random like thing on your /boot that when read would start a script that read the info from your bluetooth device and pass that on to whoever was trying to read from its pseudo device. | 16:53 |
| RonaldsMazitis | I'm trying to compile thunar from source | 16:53 |
| ducasse | UndefinedIsNotAF: don't spam here, please | 16:58 |
| Psi-Jack | How do I completely disable the on screen keyboard that comes with Gnome & Ubuntu 18.04? | 16:59 |
| ducasse | Psi-Jack: purge the package? | 16:59 |
| Psi-Jack | Which package would that even be? | 16:59 |
| ducasse | onboard, iirc | 16:59 |
| Psi-Jack | No, that's not it. | 17:00 |
| Psi-Jack | onboard is what I /want/ to run, but gnome's got its own. or something Ubuntu specific that's not onboard, either way. Not sure, but that one is broken and a nuisance to me. | 17:00 |
| Psi-Jack | onboard, actually works reasonably better. LOL | 17:00 |
| Psi-Jack | gsd-keyboard? | 17:03 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, try : system settings -> universal Access -> Screen Keyboard | 17:04 |
| Psi-Jack | It's not enabled there. | 17:04 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, ps -A | grep -i orca | 17:04 |
| Psi-Jack | No orca. | 17:05 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys on-screen-keyboard | 17:05 |
| Psi-Jack | This is a computer with touchscreen, so I know it's "enabled" via other methods. But, that's what I'm trying to stop. | 17:05 |
| Psi-Jack | '' returned | 17:06 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, ps -A | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:07 |
| Psi-Jack | ps -A | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:07 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, in your trminal | 17:08 |
| ioria | *terminal | 17:08 |
| Psi-Jack | Keep in mind, I added onboard and run onboard, specifically, but when the gnome keyboard suddenly came back on, it showed both. | 17:08 |
| Psi-Jack | Oh, oops. My copy didn't work for the URL. lOL | 17:09 |
| Psi-Jack | https://termbin.com/1mo23 | 17:09 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, well, onboard is running .... | 17:10 |
| Psi-Jack | Right. As I said. I /added/ that, that wasn't part of the original installation. | 17:11 |
| Psi-Jack | That's not the one I want to stop using. LOl | 17:11 |
| Psi-Jack | So, in dconf, there's a org.gnome.shell.keyboard keyboard-type, which defaulted to the value 'touch'. Changing that to 'disable' kinda stopped it, but then it came back suddenly and layered on top of onboard when it did so. | 17:12 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-keyboard-enabled | 17:12 |
| Psi-Jack | false | 17:13 |
| ioria | Psi-Jack, is caribou installed ? | 17:14 |
| Psi-Jack | It is not. | 17:14 |
| Psi-Jack | Urg.. I cant get it to bring up the keyboards again. onboard is coming up fine, since I logged out and back in, the gnome one stopped. Should've screenshotted it, it was.. quite obvious. :) | 17:15 |
| CarloWood | dak | 17:17 |
| CarloWood | dakar: Maybe use a named pipe (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2156). | 17:17 |
| CarloWood | Before mounting root, run some script that contacts the bluetooth device and constructs a key, then writes the key to the named pipe. Then read the named pipe from /etc/cryptab. | 17:18 |
| dakar | im not entirely sure how to even do all of this before mounting root | 17:19 |
| dakar | this all should be fairly easy if it's not root | 17:20 |
| iiee | i am greater because i am buddhist | 17:22 |
| ducasse | iiee: please stay on topic | 17:26 |
| iiee | ducasse: ur not an op so fuck off nigger | 17:27 |
| ducasse | !ops | iiee | 17:27 |
| ubottu | iiee: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax | 17:27 |
| iiee | ducasse: please fuck off nigger | 17:29 |
| iiee | go fuck yourself | 17:29 |
| iiee | seriously you know nothing of buddhism ducasse so fuck you niggers black faggot | 17:29 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTDfD1aiw1viTBcgm53kB8QoBEzfiT-mXH0kAbPUm3P3WI93OY0 LOOOL | 17:37 |
| UndefinedIsNotAF | You like this pic, guys? | 17:38 |
| CarloWood | yup | 17:39 |
| ducasse | !ot | 17:40 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 17:40 |
| the1banana | Hello! I came back from a while ago after trying to get some help, but they couldn't solve my issue. So that I don't spam this chat too badly, I've summarize the issue here: https://pastebin.com/gmS7DkNc | 17:48 |
| the1banana | Please let me know if I've omitted anything that might be useful in diagnosing the problem. | 17:49 |
| ducasse | the1banana: if your gpu is supported by radeon, it should have worked by default. you can try #radeon, see if they are aware of any fixes/workarounds | 18:02 |
| the1banana | Got it. | 18:02 |
| the1banana | That being said, if there's anything anyone knows about the topic here; I'd love to hear some ideas. | 18:07 |
| oerheks | i guess there is not much we can do, you have the openradeon driver, there is no amdgpu available, we found out | 18:09 |
| Nitrigaur | Since a few days my ubuntu 19.10 installation does not start a graphical boot properly. journalctl -xe shows me that dunst and mpd failed to start. Could this be related to the issue? | 18:11 |
| Nitrigaur | My machine does start in recovery mode into a complete graphical shell, but only in a low 1024x768 resolution | 18:15 |
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| the1banana | So, what else is there left to try? Should I replace my graphics card/motherboard? I think I can do that reasonably easily. | 18:16 |
| the1banana | Well, not the motherboard. | 18:16 |
| the1banana | But I do acknowledge that while it was semi-high end back then, it is a 2012 graphics card. | 18:16 |
| akhi | apakah saya sudah terdaftar? | 18:31 |
| akhi | adakah yang bisa berbahasa indonesia? | 18:32 |
| rafly | Hello?? I use andoidIRC | 18:35 |
| oerheks | :-) | 18:35 |
| rafly | Can anyone speak Indonesian? | 18:35 |
| oerheks | hi rafly no, english only please | 18:36 |
| oerheks | !id | 18:36 |
| ubottu | join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia | 18:36 |
| rafly | Okay. It is okay | 18:36 |
| rafly | ubottu: oke | 18:37 |
| pikapika | Does Thunar keep logs of files you've opened somewhere? | 18:41 |
| rafly | pikapika: Thunar?? What is Thunar? | 18:42 |
| mouses | rafly: A file manager. | 18:42 |
| rafly | mouses: I do not know about that.. | 18:43 |
| mouses | pikapika: as far as I know, no - but you might want to check our your home directory and see what it stores/where it stores it | 18:44 |
| pikapika | I chekced it's config dir | 18:45 |
| pikapika | No such log it seems | 18:45 |
| ioria | pikapika, the general recently opened log file is in ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel ; don't know about thunar tho | 18:51 |
| pikapika | ioria, thanks | 18:53 |
| pikapika | Looks like it doesn't go far enough back for my present need | 18:53 |
| pikapika | wonder if there's a way to change the log size | 18:53 |
| pikapika | anyways | 18:53 |
| pikapika | thanks for the help | 18:53 |
| ioria | ok | 18:56 |
| ioria | pikapika, well, on gnome there is a setting (Usage & History) and clearing it can be calibrated (Retain : forever, 30 days, 1 day, etc.etc) ; i suggest to find the equivalent on xfce (probably in Privacy) | 19:01 |
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| ioria | pikapika, if you cannot find it, you can try 'gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.privacy recent-files-max-age' (should work also on xfce) | 19:20 |
| pikapika | Ok, thanks | 19:21 |
| WoC | any suggestion on how to dual boot, ubuntu vs freebsd - using grub ? | 19:26 |
| WoC | seems like both the chainloader and kfreebsd is unknown in the mainline grub, even checked out grub from github, to ensure i had the current version | 19:27 |
| WoC | Which is the highest version of ubuntu that i can use for the catalyst drivers ? | 19:48 |
| WoC | 14.x ? | 19:48 |
| dax | WoC: catalyst/fglrx was removed in 16.04, so versions before that. I note that 16.04 is the oldest version supported in #ubuntu, so this channel doesn't support fglrx at all these days. | 19:50 |
| WoC | Ok, thanks, so 14.04 or something | 19:50 |
| WoC | Needed for OpenCL | 19:50 |
| WoC | appreciated | 19:51 |
| WoC | Maybe i can do-release-upgrade once installed | 19:51 |
| dax | they're removed on upgrade, because they're not compatible with newer Xorg | 19:52 |
| dax | short of whatever commercial support Canonical's still doing for 14.04 (which I have no idea about, not being a Canonical employee), there's no supported way to get fglrx on a supported Ubuntu version | 19:52 |
| WoC | ok, ty | 19:53 |
| WoC | aint easy to get OpenCL on amd... | 19:53 |
| rafly | Can anyone speak Indonesian? | 19:54 |
| dax | WoC: which AMD card do you have? | 19:55 |
| WoC | APU | 19:55 |
| WoC | A8-5500 | 19:55 |
| WoC | equiv to AMD ATI Radeon HD 7560D | 19:56 |
| dax | yeah, too old for amdgpu-pro then. i think you're out of luck for opencl on that card on supported Ubuntu versions | 19:56 |
| Guest_73 | I have a new laptop and i'm having nvidia driver issues. I can boot up 19.10 live from a usb stick by editing grub 'nomodeset' and not have the system crash. Should i install 19.10 and add the nvidia drivers during install or else do the install, boot up again using edited grub and try to install nvidia drivers on the new system ? | 19:58 |
| Guest_73 | it's a wireless issue i think. noveau is crashing | 19:59 |
| Guest_73 | where is everyone ? | 20:01 |
| WoC | crashing is the one thing noveau is good at | 20:02 |
| Guest_73 | WoC noveau is the wireless driver right ? | 20:02 |
| WoC | no, itś the graphics | 20:02 |
| Guest_73 | WoC oh right | 20:02 |
| WoC | open-source drivers for nvidia graphics w/o the fucntionality | 20:03 |
| Guest_73 | WoC should i go ahead with the install ? do you reckon | 20:03 |
| WoC | replace it with the nvidia drivers | 20:03 |
| Guest_73 | WoC what are the linux nvidia graphics drivers like ? | 20:03 |
| WoC | those from nvidia work really good and fast | 20:04 |
| WoC | unlike nouv* | 20:04 |
| Guest_73 | can i enable 3rd party drivers during install ? or do i have to install and add the drivers on the fresh system ? | 20:04 |
| Guest_73 | WoC ^^ | 20:05 |
| WoC | I would do that after | 20:05 |
| Guest_73 | WoC: so don't enable 3rd party drivers on install ? | 20:05 |
| WoC | no, i install the nvidia drivers after | 20:05 |
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| Guest_73 | i think i'll dual boot just in case | 20:06 |
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| rafly | How do you use SASL for IRC? | 20:07 |
| dax | rafly: http://wiki.androirc.com/nickserv_sasl | 20:08 |
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| rafly | dax: Nothing happened | 20:20 |
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| oerheks | rafly, you really need to logout to edit your connection, etc | 20:21 |
| dax | rafly: what were you expecting to happen? SASL authentication happens on connect, and you haven't reconnected since i said that. and, additionally, you're already logged in to nickserv. | 20:21 |
| dax | oh, i thought of another thing i should mention: freenode (and other sane networks) doesn't support blowfish, so make sure you use plain | 20:21 |
| oerheks | and not possible on webchat | 20:22 |
| rafly | IRC I am not supported | 20:23 |
| rafly | I want to use SASL to login | 20:23 |
| rafly | Forget it. I will not be able to | 20:24 |
| dax | follow the instructions in the wikilink, using the plain method instead of blowfish, then disconnect and reconnect | 20:24 |
| dax | if you need further help, ask #freenode | 20:24 |
| rafly | dax. Thanks bro for the answer. Very helpful | 20:26 |
| Nitrigaur | Since a few days my ubuntu 19.10 installation does not start a graphical boot properly. journalctl -xe shows me that dunst and mpd failed to start. Could this be related to the issue? | 20:41 |
| Nitrigaur | My machine does start in recovery mode into a complete graphical shell, but only in a low 1024x768 resolution | 20:41 |
| untakenstupidnic | i have installed ubuntu 16.04 on a 2010 macbook pro and now that grub has been installed, the mac OS X options don't boot properly. | 20:43 |
| untakenstupidnic | they just pop up stuff about darwin and failing. | 20:44 |
| untakenstupidnic | what should i do? | 20:44 |
| tomreyn | seek OS X support | 20:44 |
| untakenstupidnic | tomreyn: for some reason i can't join #osx and international boycotts don't let us get real support | 20:47 |
| tomreyn | there's #ubuntu-powerpc for ubuntu on powerpc questions | 20:47 |
| Nitrigaur | untakenstupidnic, you could try REFIt, it's specifically designed to troubleshoot multiboot environments | 20:47 |
| untakenstupidnic | Nitrigaur: we had installed it, but it doesn't show up since grub has been installed | 20:48 |
| untakenstupidnic | also all binary packages are for OSX, not linux :( | 20:48 |
| untakenstupidnic | tomreyn: its intel | 20:48 |
| tomreyn | oh ok | 20:49 |
| dax | (sidenote: it's #macosx, not #osx) | 20:50 |
| Nitrigaur | untakenstupidnic, the last time I ran into that issue on my venerable 2007 MacBook, I restored my OSX bootloader from the install DVD, if your MacBook does not have an optical drive and allows for booting from a USB stick, you could go that route. If I'm not mistaken you can freely download the OSX image | 20:50 |
| GH0S1 | I'm having trouble with the following ufw rules. I'm allowing ssh but disabling incoming and outgoing connections. This works until reboot when ssh no longer gets allowed | 20:53 |
| untakenstupidnic | Nitrigaur: like with booting a live USB and doing some GUI stuff? | 20:54 |
| GH0S1 | I'll have to mount the boot disk on reboot to disable ufw and then reconfigure. Is there a way to run the firewall rules I'm talking about that won't break? | 20:54 |
| GH0S1 | 18.04 if that helps | 20:54 |
| Nitrigaur | untakenstupidnic, that's right | 20:55 |
| untakenstupidnic | Nitrigaur: should it be the same version? (it's apple, one can expect anything :) | 20:56 |
| Nitrigaur | untakenstupidnic, there is a handy page to see which version of MacOSX is compatible with your machine. I think it was on macrumours or so. It's been a long time ago since I had to fiddle with rEFIt | 20:58 |
| Nitrigaur | startx can't open my drm pci device . I'm using a nvidia-435 driver | 21:39 |
| Nitrigaur | When choosing nouveau or an older kernel, I get the same issue. | 21:40 |
| alazy | My package manager is missing a pkg. I found it in the debian pkg repo but the version string is <slightly> different. Is there a way to tell apt to accept a package as equivalent to another? | 22:10 |
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| EriC^ | alazy: missing a package? | 22:19 |
| EriC^ | you mean like some external deb needs it as a dependency? | 22:20 |
| kenperkins | so I was having a conversation earlier re: intel ac 9560, everyone said use 1804lts, only to reailze the kernel in 1804lts is the same as 19.10. if that's the problem, I need a way to downgrade kernel offline | 22:31 |
| kenperkins | re: a non-functional wifi card that is | 22:31 |
| oerheks | that card is supported from kernel 4.14 and up, see https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html and for firmware | 22:33 |
| kenperkins | oerheks: does that mean regardless of my kernel version, I use the tarball listed for 4.14+ ? | 22:34 |
| kenperkins | (as long as my kernel is 4.14+) | 22:34 |
| oerheks | i think it is already part of linux-firmware | 22:35 |
| oerheks | !info linux-firmware | 22:35 |
| ubottu | linux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.183.4 (eoan), package size 81180 kB, installed size 473804 kB | 22:35 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: I think I told you to use 18.04.2 that shouldn't use the 5.3 kernel | 22:36 |
| kenperkins | @jeremy31 thanks for remembering that. I'll try that shortly. What does 19.04 use? | 22:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | jeremy31: 18.04.2 comes with HWE enabled... which means the kernel will upgrade to the latest | 22:36 |
| oerheks | one could build the latest. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2400595&p=13799142#post13799142 | 22:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | doesn't it? | 22:37 |
| jeremy31 | pragmaticenigma: I thought 18.04.3 was the one that used HWE | 22:37 |
| oerheks | upgrade to 18.04.4 | 22:38 |
| jeremy31 | oerheks: Might be a good idea | 22:38 |
| jeremy31 | oerheks: the ubuntuforums link | 22:38 |
| oerheks | maybe, upgrade properly to see first. | 22:38 |
| kenperkins | oerheks: tried the firmware from the intel page, slightly older than comes with 19.10, didn't see the 18.04 version before I installed it. no difference. doesn't work with either. | 22:40 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: what do you see inside [ ] in terminal for> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | 22:42 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: you should see [8086:????] in main and subsystem | 22:43 |
| kenperkins | two entres, one for iwlwifi kernel driver, and one for a lenovo device, the 8086 is the iwlwifi one as you expected | 22:43 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: post the numbers/letters after the 8086 | 22:44 |
| oerheks | and: rfkill list | 22:44 |
| kenperkins | sorry, difficult to exflitrate logs with no network :) | 22:44 |
| jeremy31 | oerheks: from when ken was on earlier it appeared to be a firmware crash in iwlwifi using the 5.3.0-40 kernel | 22:46 |
| kenperkins | https://gist.github.com/kenperkins/a0922a4447a63d762dbebce929eda2db | 22:46 |
| alazy | Eric: Yes, I don't have the exact name right now but it's something like libqt5webengine5_5.11.3+dfsg-1+b3_armhf.deb. I can find a version in the debian repo that's almost identical except it's -1+rp1+b3 at the end. I'd like to try to force apt to use it to see if it works anyway. Otherwise I have to remove too many packages from my default apt repo and replace them with versions downloaded from | 22:46 |
| alazy | the debian repo. | 22:46 |
| kenperkins | oerheks: sorry; did you want me to run `rfkill list` ? | 22:46 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: that device is supported in newer 4.15 kernels used in Ubuntu 18.04 | 22:47 |
| kenperkins | yes, my understanding is it _should_ be working, but it's not, and I'm not appearing to be unique based on Psi-Jack and others on the internet, the question is what do I do? :D | 22:48 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: Can you USB tether to a smartphone? | 22:48 |
| oerheks | Are there any wmi modules that can be blacklisted? | 22:49 |
| oerheks | # lsmod|grep wmi | 22:49 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: in terminal run> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | 22:49 |
| kenperkins | good idea, tethering worked, I also have a usb-c adapter coming today | 22:51 |
| kenperkins | so just 3->2 | 22:52 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: the command I posted above should keep Network Manager from enabling wifi power management, run the entire command from sudo - .conf then reboot | 22:52 |
| kenperkins | appears to have no idfference | 22:55 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: check iwconfig results in terminal and see if power management is still on | 22:56 |
| kenperkins | iwconfig shows no interfaces with wireless extensions | 22:56 |
| kenperkins | s/interfaces/adapters/? | 22:56 |
| kenperkins | brb testing one thing | 22:59 |
| jeremy31 | kenperkins: I would install 18.04.1 or 18.04 and use USB tethering to install updates. Try to stay with the 4.15 kernel as my current 4.15.0-88 shows it should support the wifi you are trying to use. The only other option I can think of is to use this PPA to install backport-iwlwifi-dkms https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi | 22:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | I agree with jeremy31 ... what I was able to search out... there has been a lot of suggesting the backport-iwlwifi ... I was hoping to find a definitive "this works" without extra "I tried all things before hand" | 23:02 |
| kenperkins | hm. Now that tethering works, I can do a few more easy explorations from the host; don't know why that doesn't work. Interestingly, the 19.04 trial mode (run from usb) neither has working wifi nor working trackpad | 23:05 |
| kenperkins | assuming indeed there is a problem here i can't imagine it would be taken lightly, this is a very common wifi chip (at least that's my understanding) | 23:08 |
| kenperkins | here's my current state of tracking: https://gist.github.com/kenperkins/1a7ad8f99ceb47e767f026e5eaecf30d | 23:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | kenperkins: does that mean you have resolved the issue? | 23:26 |
| kenperkins | no, just looking for information | 23:26 |
| kenperkins | and trying to keep track of my testing | 23:26 |
| kenperkins | interesting that 5.0.0 doesn't work, 5.3.0-18 does work, and 5.3.0-40 doesn't work | 23:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | regressions are fun, aren't they? I have the same issue with a printer... depending on the release, my hp printer is sometimes included and sometimes not included with hplip install helper | 23:28 |
| kenperkins | I wish that's what I had; much easier to live with a priner problem :D | 23:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | no doubt, however, it does appear that the Live session for 19.10 was working? correct? | 23:29 |
| kenperkins | yes, speculatively because the live kernel is older | 23:29 |
| kenperkins | wondering if i should downgrade the installed kernel to test | 23:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | there is no path to downgrade really though | 23:30 |
| pragmaticenigma | when installing, do you allow the installer to install updates at the same time? | 23:30 |
| kenperkins | now that I'm tethered, I'm being prompted for new firmware at the os time. Let's see what this does | 23:30 |
| kenperkins | @pragmaticenigma: yes | 23:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | kenperkins: ah... I bet there's the trick. If you didn't enable that, let it install and then pin'd the kernel version... you probably would be off and running | 23:31 |
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| kenperkins | @pragmaticenigma that will be my next test after this firmware update; what's the process for pinning | 23:35 |
| kenperkins | firmware made no difference | 23:38 |
| kenperkins | is this the correct way, version notwithstanding? sudo apt-mark hold linux-image-4.13.0-26-generic linux-headers-4.13.0-26-generic | 23:42 |
| kenperkins | @pragmaticenigma so running install again, this time without checking the download updates, and it's still going to 5.3.0-40 :( | 23:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | strange | 23:50 |
| Bashing-om | kenperkins: FYI: "sysop@x1804mini:~$ uname -r | 23:50 |
| kenperkins | wonder if I don't connect to wifi during install I'll get a different experience | 23:50 |
| Bashing-om | 4.15.0-88-generic | 23:50 |
| kenperkins | yea 530-40 | 23:50 |
| pragmaticenigma | kenperkins: yeah... it can't down if it doesn't have a connection :-P | 23:51 |
| causative | all my processors are suddenly locked to 800 mhz, when two days ago they were fine. I tried following the instructions at https://askubuntu.com/questions/523640/how-i-can-disable-cpu-frequency-scaling-and-set-the-system-to-performance but nothing has changed | 23:51 |
| Bashing-om | kenperkins: 18.04.0/1 has the 4.15 series kernel. | 23:52 |
| causative | they all have a hardware speed of 3500 mHz, and I'm noticing a severe reduction in performance | 23:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | causative: Need more information. Right now it sounds like you followed those instructions, and now the system is locked in low clock | 23:53 |
| wildtrees | 800mhz peformance is gonna be kinda slow/degraded these days | 23:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | wildtrees: Is there a support question we can help you with? | 23:54 |
| causative | I'm getting 1/10 the steps per second I was getting two days ago on https://distill.pub/2020/growing-ca/ | 23:54 |
| wildtrees | pragmaticenigma, not at this time, was commenting about causatives problem | 23:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | causative: you need to explain what all transpired, in detail, as best you can for the last few days | 23:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | wildtrees: please don't add commentary, it makes it harder to follow the conversation. If you have suggestions or ideas on how to help, please join in | 23:56 |
| Battle | should I be worried about this line: Feb 22 19:56:12 team-neo kernel: [ 8076.050352] perf: interrupt took too long (3220 > 3127), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 62000 | 23:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | Battle: it is purely informational, there is nothing to be concerned about | 23:58 |
| Battle | okay, so thats not the reason then hmm | 23:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | Battle: reason for what exactly? | 23:59 |
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