[00:22] <teward> wxl: Simons' mail should work shortly again per sysadmins.  (cc tsimonq2)
[03:28] <wxl> what a doofberry. thanks for fixing it teward 
[03:29] <teward> wxl: thank dan.
[03:29] <teward> they readded Simon to the members list
[03:29] <teward> and pjdc was kind enough to resync the membership list file on their end to regen the alias
[03:29] <teward> (after 2 hours I pined)
[03:29] <teward> pinged*
[03:30] <teward> this said, I asked pjdc to peek because mostly I remember I moved my hosted mail platform and all my stuff over to a /28 instead of a /29 so I had assumed part of it was my fault
[03:30] <teward> but pjdc was able to figure the core cause :)
[03:30] <teward> (also I'm not on LUbuntu COuncil so technically I shouldn't have access to whether this was dropped, etc. but I think it's just known that Lubuntu asks me to debug their email issues xD)
[03:31] <teward> (and I think pjdc was doing a courtesy)
[04:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T150: Erase Disk fails with existing partition scheme] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T150#3231
[05:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdbe2bcc0091c: Add page down to move packages in Muon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdbe2bcc0091c
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[05:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfbf99c63c6f7: Add move to last package] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfbf99c63c6f7
[06:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0d31186214fc: Add Home key to return to first] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0d31186214fc
[06:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9d9232007745: /s/button/key/] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9d9232007745
[06:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL58b9d986994d: Fix typo] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL58b9d986994d
[06:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdbf0c66f3313: Fix capitlization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdbf0c66f3313
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[07:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf350c410e752: Add advanced tab summary] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf350c410e752
[07:37] <guiverc> wxl, FYI: doing a `sudo ln -s /usr/bin/udevadm /sbin/udevadm` before running calamares does seem to solve 1851188 for my fussy d755 box  (filling fs now.. and NO sfdisk /dev/sda errs)
[07:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL58e993d3d07d: Add Default units] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL58e993d3d07d
[07:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb1f716c47335: Add warning for what creating new partition table does] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb1f716c47335
[08:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALac17ea212e7b: Add Enter key to select menu items] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALac17ea212e7b
 Question, should I try to put the breeze config script in focal?
[18:06] <wxl> hm
 If yes, I think it's easier to include it in the lubuntu-artowrk package
[18:06] <wxl> i think it's a good idea but we'll need to document it somewhere
 opposed to create a new package
[18:07] <wxl> yeah makes sense
 document somewhere you mean besides the manual?
[18:08] <wxl> no, that's what i mean
[18:08] <wxl> but it needs to get in there :)
 I have no problem with writing that
[18:09] <wxl> go for it
 ok
[18:09] <wxl> thanks Hans
 where should I put the script? I don't think /bin is the palce for it
[18:10] <wxl> i don't think any of us are really great with dealing with look and feel
[18:11] <wxl> look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[18:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb830e14dee8c: Fix spelling error] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb830e14dee8c
[18:11] <wxl> i'd say probably /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
[18:15] <wxl> svinoba[m]: just saying hi :)
 wxl: ok, usr/bin sound ok. will used the lubuntuartwork repo, should I create a new package or use lubuntu-artwork? looking at https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/debian/control
[18:17] <wxl> i think new
 ok
[18:17] <wxl> make a manpage for it if you're really cool :)
 @wxl [<wxl> i don't think any of us are really great with dealing with look and feel], I am XD
[18:19] <wxl> um
[18:20] <wxl> talk about an abi break
 😮
 @wxl [<wxl> make a manpage for it if you're really cool :)], will do
[18:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe19f99ed82b7: Move icon description to right section] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe19f99ed82b7
 Woah: https://secure.phabricator.com/T13488
 @kc2bez, wxl: ^
[19:37] <wxl> no changes really affecting us tho
[19:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#3232
[19:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T153: Configure Harbormaster with Phabricator] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T153
 wxl: I still don't get the qtermwidget, but we need to fix it, how?
 should we grab debian directly?
[20:12] <wxl> basically qtermwidget-data or whatever it is needs to have a Breaks/Replaces against qtermwidtget-l10n
[20:16] <wxl> if i'm remembering it right
[20:17] <wxl> yep
[20:17] <wxl> someone mentions it on the bug actually
[20:17] <wxl> in other news, i'm curious what this actually is https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/a865620f902988f890781fb4576cf151c779133f
[20:21] <RikMills> wxl: yes, it does need breaks/replaces
 @RikMills [<RikMills> wxl: yes, it does need breaks/replaces], and remove qtermwidget-l10n ???
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/qtermwidget/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/debian/control$54
[20:26] <wxl> it's already removed from the archive so yes
[20:27] <wxl> unfortunately phab is not synced to the archive 
 shouldn't we sync to the arcive first?
[20:27] <RikMills> breaks/replaces would force it to be removed, before the conflicting packages had its files installed
[20:28] <RikMills> yes, sync to the archive version, then apply the fix
[20:29] <RikMills> should be versioned breaks/replaces, otherwise lintian will nag about policy
[20:30] <wxl> ugh
[20:31] <wxl> @tsimonq2: how are we supposed to *easily* pull changes from the archive to phab?
[20:33] <RikMills> ka-sync-archive or use meld on the clean debian folder are 2 manual options
[20:34] <wxl> i was hoping there was some solution within phabricator itself
[20:34] <wxl> @kc2bez: you want to do 3.2.19.1?
[20:36] <wxl> sigh
[20:37] <wxl> i think we're gong to have to start using ka-sync-archive
[20:39] <RikMills> should be simple to write a non ka script to do the same
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: you want to do 3.2.19.1?], I can do that.
[20:40] <wxl> @kc2bez: get going and i'll test it.
 Unless of course you really wanted to XD
[20:41] <wxl> i want to but i don't and besides i wouldn't want to take your fun away :)
 :D
[20:41] <wxl> @HMollerCl https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/check-and-fix/ka-sync-archive is what @RikMills and i are discussing. if you wanted to make a simple version of that for us, that would be fabulous.
[20:42] <RikMills> why does debian keep the whole upstream source for lx*stuff in salsa git? that is a really dick thing to do.
[20:42] <wxl> and/or send pull requests to add in some switches to make it useful for us :)
[20:42] <wxl> @RikMills it's weird, i admit. i'm not sure it's necessarily *bad* but weird.
 @RikMills [<RikMills> why does debian keep the whole upstream source for lx*stuff in salsa …], I don't know but it is bit weird.
[20:43] <wxl> i can only imagine "laziness" is the appropriate explanation
[20:43] <wxl> also given that "debian" in this case is synonymous with "alf" the fact that logic is thrown out the window is not surprising
[20:44] <RikMills> that was mostly rhetorical, expressing annoyance :P
[20:45] <RikMills> script needs to:
[20:45] <RikMills> - download the lp source package, and extract the debian folder
[20:46] <RikMills> - rsync that and the debian fold in your git folder
[20:46] <RikMills> with appropriate options on make sure additions & deletions are handled
[20:46] <RikMills> *to make sure
[20:47] <RikMills> which is all ka-sync-achive does really
 with "that and the debian folder" you mean src and debian folder?
[20:48] <RikMills> easier to automate downloading the lot. what you actually want is just the debian folder
 ok, thanks
 wxl: the most problematic parts is to deal with auth in the script
[20:52] <RikMills> does pull-lp-source not work?
 @RikMills [<RikMills> does pull-lp-source not work?], thaty should work, to write in phab is my concern
[20:53] <wxl> if we must, it will need to be presented as an arc diff
 unless, I run it locally
 with my credentials
 @wxl [<wxl> if we must, it will need to be presented as an arc diff], couldn't it be done by a normal git?
 (I can't do it, but devels can)
[20:56] <wxl> yes
[20:56] <kc2bez> arc diff should work too though.
[20:56] <wxl> but i'm saying as far as how it could be applicable to anyone, dev or not
 ok
[20:59] <kc2bez> I have to go AFK for a bit but I will get Cala uploaded tonight.
[21:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGafd20277e930: New upstream release.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGafd20277e930
[21:40] <wxl> sorry @kc2bez too impatient
[21:41] <wxl> aww hell i should have linked the bugs
[21:41] <wxl> whatever XD
 I just got a big project I need to finish by march 2nd. I will be out for this week :(.
 I'm in the process of searching for new job and I got a test for one which I have to respond by march 2nd.
[22:05] <kc2bez> No worries wxl I understand.