| brobostigon | morning | 06:08 |
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| zxmoypi | o/ | 07:28 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 07:50 |
| Chunkyz | Nou. | 16:10 |
| Chunkyz | We ready for the new Ubuntu yet? | 16:10 |
| * Laney has the bunting and special new pants | 16:15 | |
| daftykins | o09 | 17:48 |
| daftykins | -9 | 17:48 |
| daftykins | cor la, local ISP has uncapped the speeds on a client's 5G test device now | 17:49 |
| daftykins | 270Mb download | 17:49 |
| daftykins | saw 28MB/sec snagging an ubuntu ISO | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | nice, how much do you pay for that? | 17:50 |
| daftykins | he's on a free trial right now, so nothing | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | it's something I'm keeping my eye on, cable is getting expensive, starting to be flaky and it's upload bandwidth is poor | 18:00 |
| daftykins | mmm always was a big weakness, saw that when researching Virgin Media for the same client's London pad | 18:00 |
| daftykins | the trial appears to be using 4G for upload right now, so i only saw 20Mb up | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | BT are starting to roll out real fibre - and it's stopping a few 100 metres down the road on this roll out | 18:01 |
| daftykins | to properties or just to street cabinets? a friend in Exeter seemed to be able to get the new G.fast VDSL services at his address | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | to properties | 18:03 |
| daftykins | hmm funky | 18:03 |
| penguin42 | G.300 is available to a lot of cabs here - but not ours :-( | 18:03 |
| daftykins | :( | 18:05 |
| daftykins | there we go, Zen.co.uk offers him 300/45 Mb for £60/mo | 18:05 |
| daftykins | that'd be lovely | 18:05 |
| penguin42 | I'm paying just over £40 for 100/6 on VM; I don't need any more, I'd like it to be less flaky though | 18:07 |
| penguin42 | and it seems a lot for that now | 18:07 |
| daftykins | do you find it matches the student terms at all? :D improving when they're gone | 18:07 |
| penguin42 | no I don't think so; I'm on the other side of the city from the universities | 18:08 |
| daftykins | ah i suppose it's big enough they get diluted out amongst the area | 18:08 |
| * penguin42 should measure his usage to see how the 5G plans would work out - I see one or two of the providers listing us as covered | 18:11 | |
| daftykins | the only thing is he's only getting good service because his property has line of sight to the main town tower - and maybe 150m as the crow flies tops from it | 18:12 |
| daftykins | it's still insanely variable depending on weather, so i'd stick to fixed line services for consistency | 18:12 |
| daftykins | although he can only get 40/5 Mb there due to his bad line | 18:13 |
| penguin42 | DSL here is only about 10/1 | 18:13 |
| daftykins | wow that must be some serious line length | 18:14 |
| penguin42 | and they can't be bothered - there's not enough people on this cab for them to upgrade it to VDSL | 18:14 |
| daftykins | mmm, i imagine that's often the case with cable areas | 18:15 |
| daftykins | where i had that house in Portsmouth, the overhead pole based phone lines looked like they'd be pretty terrible | 18:15 |
| penguin42 | nod, but also one side of our street is a park, so the problem is there aren't as many houses on the road | 18:16 |
| daftykins | ah i see | 18:16 |
| daftykins | just for curiosity's sake, what do you get offered from Zen's postcode checker? https://www.zen.co.uk/ | 18:17 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: 3.5-7.5Mbps | 18:17 |
| daftykins | ouch! | 18:18 |
| penguin42 | I'm pretty sure Zen are in our exchange as well; the problem is since our streetbox is a dumb bundle of wires ~1km away there's not much to do | 18:18 |
| daftykins | yeah, that's a shame | 18:19 |
| daftykins | i'm on a 500m pair that runs direct to the exchange, so the 60/10 i'm on now is the best i'll see | 18:19 |
| penguin42 | nod | 18:20 |
| penguin42 | and lets face it that's pretty much fine - unless you're doing serious video stuff | 18:20 |
| daftykins | double the upload would be nice for my home Nextcloud instance, but yeah it does the job :D | 18:21 |
| penguin42 | I mean a apt get completes in no time at 60 | 18:21 |
| daftykins | could certainly be a lot worse, like my rural US friend on satellite with his 10GB/month data cap | 18:21 |
| penguin42 | oh, that's unusual for the US; you find bits of the US with cable broadband with no running water | 18:22 |
| daftykins | hehe yeah, he reckons he's just seen fiber laid to the roadside up on the main drag, but he's a few hundred metres down a kinda more private farm track, as he's renting on a farmer's land | 18:23 |
| zxmoypi | i believe what you do if a cabinet doesn't receive the latest broadband is pay a few rowdy teenagers to nick a jcb and obliterate it and when it's replaced it gets all new shiny gear :-P | 20:14 |
| daftykins | xD | 20:15 |
| penguin42 | zxmoypi: The problem is it's at the end of the road, not nicely spaced along the road | 20:16 |
| daftykins | someone drove into a friends cab actually, engineers had to run it from batteries for a while whilst they repaired its' supply... he had 2 outages a day as the batteries were swapped over | 20:17 |
| penguin42 | haha | 20:18 |
| zxmoypi | needed a bigger vehicle to hit it... :-P | 20:20 |
| zxmoypi | better luck next time | 20:20 |
| penguin42 | hmm, so has BBC Freeview red button actually stopped working - it was supposed to at the end of Jan but then after protects they stopped that - but it seems to have happened | 21:59 |
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