[06:08] morning [07:28] o/ [07:50] o/ [16:10] Nou. [16:10] We ready for the new Ubuntu yet? [16:15] * Laney has the bunting and special new pants [17:48] o09 [17:48] -9 [17:49] cor la, local ISP has uncapped the speeds on a client's 5G test device now [17:49] 270Mb download [17:49] saw 28MB/sec snagging an ubuntu ISO [17:50] nice, how much do you pay for that? [17:51] he's on a free trial right now, so nothing [18:00] it's something I'm keeping my eye on, cable is getting expensive, starting to be flaky and it's upload bandwidth is poor [18:00] mmm always was a big weakness, saw that when researching Virgin Media for the same client's London pad [18:01] the trial appears to be using 4G for upload right now, so i only saw 20Mb up [18:01] BT are starting to roll out real fibre - and it's stopping a few 100 metres down the road on this roll out [18:02] to properties or just to street cabinets? a friend in Exeter seemed to be able to get the new G.fast VDSL services at his address [18:03] to properties [18:03] hmm funky [18:03] G.300 is available to a lot of cabs here - but not ours :-( [18:05] :( [18:05] there we go, Zen.co.uk offers him 300/45 Mb for £60/mo [18:05] that'd be lovely [18:07] I'm paying just over £40 for 100/6 on VM; I don't need any more, I'd like it to be less flaky though [18:07] and it seems a lot for that now [18:07] do you find it matches the student terms at all? :D improving when they're gone [18:08] no I don't think so; I'm on the other side of the city from the universities [18:08] ah i suppose it's big enough they get diluted out amongst the area [18:11] * penguin42 should measure his usage to see how the 5G plans would work out - I see one or two of the providers listing us as covered [18:12] the only thing is he's only getting good service because his property has line of sight to the main town tower - and maybe 150m as the crow flies tops from it [18:12] it's still insanely variable depending on weather, so i'd stick to fixed line services for consistency [18:13] although he can only get 40/5 Mb there due to his bad line [18:13] DSL here is only about 10/1 [18:14] wow that must be some serious line length [18:14] and they can't be bothered - there's not enough people on this cab for them to upgrade it to VDSL [18:15] mmm, i imagine that's often the case with cable areas [18:15] where i had that house in Portsmouth, the overhead pole based phone lines looked like they'd be pretty terrible [18:16] nod, but also one side of our street is a park, so the problem is there aren't as many houses on the road [18:16] ah i see [18:17] just for curiosity's sake, what do you get offered from Zen's postcode checker? https://www.zen.co.uk/ [18:17] daftykins: 3.5-7.5Mbps [18:18] ouch! [18:18] I'm pretty sure Zen are in our exchange as well; the problem is since our streetbox is a dumb bundle of wires ~1km away there's not much to do [18:19] yeah, that's a shame [18:19] i'm on a 500m pair that runs direct to the exchange, so the 60/10 i'm on now is the best i'll see [18:20] nod [18:20] and lets face it that's pretty much fine - unless you're doing serious video stuff [18:21] double the upload would be nice for my home Nextcloud instance, but yeah it does the job :D [18:21] I mean a apt get completes in no time at 60 [18:21] could certainly be a lot worse, like my rural US friend on satellite with his 10GB/month data cap [18:22] oh, that's unusual for the US; you find bits of the US with cable broadband with no running water [18:23] hehe yeah, he reckons he's just seen fiber laid to the roadside up on the main drag, but he's a few hundred metres down a kinda more private farm track, as he's renting on a farmer's land [20:14] i believe what you do if a cabinet doesn't receive the latest broadband is pay a few rowdy teenagers to nick a jcb and obliterate it and when it's replaced it gets all new shiny gear :-P [20:15] xD [20:16] zxmoypi: The problem is it's at the end of the road, not nicely spaced along the road [20:17] someone drove into a friends cab actually, engineers had to run it from batteries for a while whilst they repaired its' supply... he had 2 outages a day as the batteries were swapped over [20:18] haha [20:20] needed a bigger vehicle to hit it... :-P [20:20] better luck next time [21:59] hmm, so has BBC Freeview red button actually stopped working - it was supposed to at the end of Jan but then after protects they stopped that - but it seems to have happened