[01:01] <Psi-Jack> Nice.. Bitwarden folks got me an enterprise trial pretty dang quickly.
[01:01] <daftykins> :D
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> I mean, literally. Less than an hour of my request!
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> And, the interface is turning out to be, so far, comparably as good as Enpass's, which is pretty dang good.
[01:18] <Psi-Jack> only 2 weeks,. though.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:30] <ducasse> good morning
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: I believe frenda is running a private server on a residential internet connection
[13:43] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: you mean teknik.io is theirs?
[13:44] <tomreyn> hmm no i guess you didn't mean this.
[13:44] <tomreyn> i guess i'm fine with them running a private server on a residential internet connection
[13:48] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: based on the ip address registered to the domain tomreyn
[13:48] <pragmaticenigma> hmm... guess not... looks like the site is just a pastebin like provider
[14:06] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: yes, it seems to be just another file + image + text hosting / url shortening / ... service
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> -ops has got to be loving all the attention "guest" is creating with the bot
[16:35] <leftyfb> I have yet to see them ask for help in #freenode
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: The away message hasn't been enforced in a very long time, and it was more for when clients would auto set people away and they'd come and go several times in a few minutes. Simon has never been such a burden which is why it hasn't been brought up before to them
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> Oh? heh.
[17:31] <Psi-Jack> I've been asking people to stop that for 25 years. :)
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> we each have our tolerances... mine is only if it is happening with high frequency with in 5 to 10 minute (similar to the #fixyourconnection)
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> indeed. Just the fact it's automated is enough for me. ; )\
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> that wasnt an away message, but just a nick rename?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> nick renames arent forbidden
[17:48] <Psi-Jack> it's listed in the policy actually.
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> what?
[17:49] <Psi-Jack> Yep. :)
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> to not rename a nick?
[17:49] <Psi-Jack> Don't use public away messages
[17:49] <Psi-Jack>     Some clients have the ability to announce when you are "away" from the IRC client, and also when you come back. Some clients can also be configured to change your IRC nick-name when away and back. If your client has such an option, please ensure that it is disabled
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> Psi-Jack: it wasnt an away message
[17:50] <Psi-Jack> A nick change technically is public, and global.
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> i think you confuse with /me is now away
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> lotuspsychje: No... Psi-Jack is correct
[17:51] <Psi-Jack> No. /nick Psi-Jack_AWAY is still a public away message.
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> but simon didnt do that? he renamed his nick?
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> unless he used the /me to do it
[17:52] <Psi-Jack> ... Imagine every one of the hundreds (or thousands) of people in each channel doing that. It's not a pretty sight. Changing your nick to user-away is frowned upon. If you want to set away do it silently with "/away Reason" then when someone uses your name they are told you are away and the channel is not disturbed.
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> if i want to rename myself to lotus|away im allwed right?
[17:53] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: there isn't anything in the guidelines forbidding the chaning of a nick though... no matter what it is changed to... AFK could mean anything to Simon... could be the name of another computer
[17:53] <Psi-Jack> I remember when #ubuntu was drowning in activity from Q&A, automated away/back situations, etc... It was a dissaster.
[17:53] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: That hasn't been a problem in the last 2-3 years that I have been participating in #ubuntu
[17:53] <Psi-Jack> Heh,. AFK is a standard for "Away From Keyboard".
[17:54] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: It is also an abbreviation for Afkorting
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> is somone abuses too many nick changes, thats another story..
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> really... unless it's happening with high frequency... just let it be... we have bigger fish to fry
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> Now, the irony is.. We've spent more time here talking about it, then the interaction in #ubuntu itself. where his resolution was to simply /part. Which is an acceptable response to not wanting to follow good IRC netiqute.
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> :)
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> 24/7 idlers need to part now?
[17:58] <Psi-Jack> Do they use away nicks? :)
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: And you're presently acting as "self appointed sheriff" ... if you have a problem with another member... take it to -ops ... don't try to battle it on your own
[17:58] <Psi-Jack> He's the only one I've seen in the past 48 hours. ;)
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: Exactly... hardly constitutes a reprimand
[17:59] <Psi-Jack> Now, with him however, I'd seen it multiple times.
[17:59] <Psi-Jack> but, for -ops... Yes... That may be more appropriate.
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: They're the only ones that I see do it... and I typically see it once or twice per 24 hours... hardly a case for abuse
[18:02] <Psi-Jack> Heh, to me, DOING it is abuse, period, but that's a personal battle I've had ever since IRC invented /away finally. :)
[18:02] <Psi-Jack> That was.. ~28 years ago?
[18:04] <pragmaticenigma> Don't know... but seeing as you have been away from #ubuntu for a spell... it might be a good time to relax, take in the overall feel of the channel
[18:04] <pragmaticenigma> and again... when in doubt -ops :-)
[18:04] <Psi-Jack> True!
[18:05] <Psi-Jack> So, I definitely can understand all angles of this. And, I know it's not my place to impose or act upon. Bad habbit of mine. :)
[18:06]  * jelly tries hard not to have a deja vu
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> jelly: when did you wake up?
[18:07] <jelly> it's been around 12 hours
[18:08] <Psi-Jack> heh
[18:08] <pragmaticenigma> reviews lo... oh wait ... channel isn't on there anymore
[18:08] <Psi-Jack> Yo jelly! :)
[18:09] <jelly> hello there.