[06:09] <brobostigon> morning
[09:52] <daftykins> morn \o
[10:00] <brobostigon> morning
[10:08] <zxmoypi> o/
[11:40] <brobostigon> \o
[11:57] <daftykins> i have a meeting with the boss man at the small business i have been checking out recently, the one with the worst security i've ever seen and an entire office of EOL products on an EOL server
[12:01] <MattJ> \o/
[12:03] <daftykins> he might be a dangerous client as he seems to be the reason for why everything is so bad there, i don't think he believes in updates and thinks IT people do it to justify their jobs
[12:04] <daftykins> they run in-house email on MS Exchange, next month when the next Firefox and possibly Chrome releases are out, TLS v1.0 is being disabled by default, which their outlook web access relies on :D
[12:08] <zxmoypi> yeah, sounds like they'll be a bugger to get paid from
[12:09] <daftykins> well i got paid for what i did already :D justifying work to perform necessary updates, however...
[12:17] <daftykins> i think i'll discuss the process only in general terms so as not to give any answers away ;)
[12:21] <zxmoypi> it tech level 2:switch it off and throw it out :-P
[12:21] <daftykins> \o/
[12:21] <daftykins> nah, tonnes of services to migrate off to start
[12:22] <daftykins> makes me laugh so much that someone installed the backup software for backing up their server VM... inside the VM
[12:22] <daftykins> just... so many levels of failure
[12:23] <zxmoypi> i always put the backup not on the server. that way if server was destroyed you could turn the backup computer into a temp server at a pinch
[12:24] <zxmoypi> what could possibly happen to a server they'd say... under 2 foot of water, had a wall collapse on it, lightning strike...
[12:24] <daftykins> he told me the other day that he has an exact duplicate of the £4k HP server at home... made me wonder why he asked for new disks instead of grabbing one from that when the RAID was degraded and they were in danger
[12:25] <zxmoypi> but then he wouldn't have a backup
[12:27] <daftykins> but you could be safer waiting to a replace a disk that isn't live... and it isn't one - as the server is a VM atop the host the actual system doesn't even matter
[12:33] <daftykins> penguin42: morn
[13:18] <Chunkyz> Lmao