[00:57] <zacmario> Hello, i'm having trouble sending files from my phone to the my pc. I'm using Lubuntu 20.04
[00:58] <wxl> over what protocol are you using?
[00:58] <zacmario> I've tried usb and bluetooth.
[00:59] <wxl> usb should be a no brainer
[00:59] <wxl> what phone?
[00:59] <zacmario> oh, its a acatel .. forgot the model number
[00:59] <zacmario> one second please
[01:04] <zacmario40> woops I disconnected myself
[01:04] <zacmario40> 5044RIt has worked previous versions.*alcatel
[01:05] <zacmario40> sorry what a mess
[01:05] <zacmario40> alcatel 5044R
[01:05] <wxl> which previous versions?
[01:05] <zacmario40> hm, well I know it worked in 18.04
[01:06] <zacmario40> Not sure about 19.10.
[01:06] <zacmario40> it did in ubuntu 19.10, but I'm sure there must be something differrent
[01:06] <wxl> well there's a fundamental difference between 18.04 and everythign else after
[01:07] <zacmario40> yeah I noticed :)
[01:08] <wxl> so the kernel should be the same between the 19.10s
[01:08] <wxl> so everything should work
[01:08] <wxl> unless there's a file manager issue
[01:09] <zacmario40> I think it is
[01:10] <wxl> try it out in the latest debian
[01:10] <wxl> do you get any errors?
[01:11] <wxl> try running in cli and see if there's any output
[01:12] <zacmario> Sorry, everytime I try to send the file, my usb tethering shuts off
[01:12] <wxl> reduce variables
[01:12] <wxl> if you get rid of the tethering, does it work then?
[01:12] <zacmario> No
[01:13] <zacmario> libmtp error: could not send object info
[01:14] <zacmario> however I can Create and Remove files fine on the Phone from the PC
[01:14] <zacmario> I just can't send a file
[01:17] <wxl> here's the most recent change related to mtp 
[01:17] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/4b7896836e868f069009e65ab75051ab64a1d583
[01:17] <wxl> probably not relevant
[01:17] <wxl> but as an example: it's not currently available
[01:17] <wxl> (in ubuntu)
[01:19] <wxl> this too https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/7de18bc89b9b47f66de54a7e347bf8d391d44a48
[01:19] <wxl> so there's likely problems in the file manager
[01:19] <wxl> i'd suggest compiling libfm-qt and pcmanfm-qt from the git master and seeing if that doesn't fix it
[01:23] <zacmario> ok
[01:23] <zacmario> Thanks
[01:23] <kc2bez> wxl: It looks like we do carry this patch https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/7de18bc89b9b47f66de54a7e347bf8d391d44a48
[01:23] <kc2bez> Just not the other one.
[01:24] <wxl> ah well that's probably the more relevant one anyways
[01:24] <wxl> still, weird
[01:24] <wxl> i guess the other thing you could do is install another file manager and see if it works in that
[01:25] <zacmario> Yeah, I'm not sure I can perform that with out screwing something up
[01:26] <zacmario> I've been using linux for a years now. But I havn't gotten that far
[01:26] <kc2bez> This might be the point where I suggest that KDE connect is pretty great :P
[01:26] <wxl> it's pretty easy
[01:27] <zacmario> I havn't tried KDE connect 
[01:28] <kc2bez> It provides more than just file transfers. You can get your notifications on your desktop too. 
[01:28] <wxl> or something else like nextcloud, google drive, dropbox, etc
[01:29] <kc2bez> That too ^
[01:30] <zacmario> yeah that does look nice
[01:30] <zacmario> I mean I was really more concerned with reporting a possible bug
[01:30] <zacmario> I might try it
[01:30] <zacmario> and also i need to learn to compile that so
[01:31] <wxl> yes!
[01:31] <wxl> do that
[01:31] <zacmario> i'll have to check that out
[01:31] <kc2bez> Awesome!
[01:31] <wxl> pcmanfm-qt is a little difficult that way just in that you need to compile libfm-qt and then compile pcmanfm-qt against that, so there's an extra step but that's not too bad
[01:31] <zacmario> I have compiled things before, but there is usually instructions so I no doubt did it mindlessly
[01:31] <wxl> yeah and i''m pretty sure the instructions we have suck
[01:32] <wxl> we meaning lxqt
[01:32] <zacmario> shrugs
[01:32] <zacmario> I do like it better then lxde
[01:33] <kc2bez> That is good to know.
[01:33] <wxl> indeed
[01:33] <zacmario> oh, 19.10 makes you use wine through the terminal
[01:33] <wxl> given lxde is DEAD
[01:33] <wxl> huh???
[01:33] <zacmario> i think someone figured that out because its fixed in 20
[01:33] <kc2bez> i386 architecture is not enabled in 19.10
[01:34] <kc2bez> We added it to the installer for 20.04
[01:34] <wxl> oh now i understand
[01:34] <zacmario> wine works?
[01:34] <wxl> yeah
[01:34] <kc2bez> It should.
[01:34] <zacmario> it does
[01:34] <wxl> it's just that ubuntu did something they shouldn't
[01:34] <zacmario> just you cant just click an exe or even right click it
[01:34] <zacmario> you have to do a wine command
[01:35] <zacmario> not that thats the end of the world
[01:35] <wxl> huh
[01:35] <wxl> well that's potentially a whole different issue
[01:35] <wxl> i can't remember the last time i used wine
[01:35] <wxl> anywho
[01:35] <wxl> so here's a thought
[01:36] <wxl> install dolphin
[01:36] <zacmario> yeah, i mean its fixed in 20
[01:36] <wxl> then you can change your default manager in session settings
[01:36] <zacmario> oh really
[01:36] <zacmario> cool
[01:37] <zacmario> i mean like pcman just fine
[01:37] <zacmario> i like it better than nautils
[01:37] <wxl> err
[01:37] <wxl> i guess not session settings
[01:37] <wxl> well whatever
[01:37] <wxl> you don't have to do that anyways
[01:37] <wxl> you can run multiple file managers at one time XD
[01:38] <zacmario> yeah you can
[01:38] <wxl> anyways you can use that to test whether or not the problem is in the file manager, or at least you can use it to rule out the kernel as a problem
[01:38] <zacmario> oh got yeah
[01:38] <zacmario> i'll look into it
[01:38] <wxl> if you want to compile, you'll need to use git to clone the two packages
[01:39] <wxl> (from github.com/lxqt/…)
[01:39] <zacmario> ok, I'll bookmark it. I'm getting sidetrack from my projects. So I'll come back to it
[01:39] <wxl> then you want the build dependencies which `sudo apt build-dep package-name` will take care of
[01:40] <zacmario> ok, I'll copy that down
[01:40] <wxl> then you got to compile with cmake
[01:40] <wxl> which they only partially explain XD
[01:41] <wxl> here's the goofy trick you need to know first:
[01:41] <wxl> mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..
[01:41] <wxl> THEN you can run make to compile
[01:41] <wxl> make install if you want it installed in your path
[01:44] <zacmario> ok
[01:44] <zacmario> sounds good , thank you.
[01:45] <zacmario> Actually, it looks like some updates cameout today for bluetooth..
[03:34] <guiverc> wxl or anyone; is there a better ML for my 'bzr' query (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2020q1/076368.html), on IRC it was suggested ML
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[18:17] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker let's get that wrapped up and soon given 20.04's impending release
[18:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Sure. I am a bit tied up with exams till 8th. This is the first thing on my list after that.
[18:19] <wxl> guiverc: glad you brought that back up as that's been on my mind. i'd like to have it finished asap because it would be nice for people to use it in daily testing before we actually NEED it in testing beta/final images
[18:20] <wxl> guiverc: personally i would suggest #launchpad
[19:08] <wxl> oh boy https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/is-ubuntu-software-going-to-be-remove-for-snap-snap-store/14542
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