| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:24 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:39 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:51 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:16 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:22 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:25 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:30 |
| didrocks | bonjour oSoMoN | 07:32 |
| seb128 | gooood morning desktopers | 08:31 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:45 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, comment ça va ? | 08:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va, mais rush de fixes avant de faire une release de zsys :p | 08:46 |
| seb128 | the ff fun! | 08:47 |
| didrocks | yep! | 08:49 |
| Laney | hello | 09:01 |
| marcustomlinson | morning oSoMoN duflu didrocks and seb128 | 09:02 |
| marcustomlinson | aaaaand Laney | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, marcustomlinson, how are you today? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | Laney one minute earlier than usual, change of routine! :) | 09:03 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: yeah ok, stressing over every stomach cramp my wife has, but otherwise just fine ;) yourself? | 09:03 |
| didrocks | good morning marcustomlinson & Laney | 09:03 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, oh, good luck with that! | 09:03 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: good luck, this is the end of the road :p | 09:03 |
| marcustomlinson | the end of my life forever... | 09:04 |
| marcustomlinson | XD | 09:04 |
| Laney | hi marcustomlinson seb128 didrocks | 09:06 |
| Laney | hmm, keeping a log of what time I say hello, interesting | 09:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:06 |
| seb128 | it's part of the KPIs! | 09:07 |
| * Laney writes a script | 09:07 | |
| duflu | Morning Laney and marcustomlinson | 09:07 |
| Wimpress | Morning desktopers o/ | 09:08 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Wimpress | 09:08 |
| Wimpress | marcustomlinson: Morning | 09:09 |
| Laney | error: cannot validate seed: | 09:11 |
| Laney | - cannot use snap "snap-store": default provider "gnome-3-28-1804" is missing | 09:11 |
| Laney | kenvandine: please can you do the fixing of the iso? | 09:12 |
| Laney | hi Wimpress | 09:12 |
| Wimpress | Morning Laney | 09:13 |
| didrocks | hey Wimpress | 09:15 |
| Wimpress | Morning didrocks | 09:15 |
| Laney | and duflu! | 09:16 |
| Wimpress | You might want to have a chat with popey about zsys | 09:16 |
| popey | we have emailed | 09:16 |
| Wimpress | Brilliant :-D | 09:16 |
| popey | its all in hand | 09:16 |
| jibel | and we replied :) | 09:16 |
| popey | \o/ | 09:16 |
| Wimpress | Double brilliant :-D | 09:16 |
| popey | BY THE POWER OF COMMUNICATION! | 09:16 |
| * Wimpress is awestruck | 09:17 | |
| seb128 | duflu, hum, bluez 5.53 was tagged 11 days ago and has a tarball on https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/bluetooth/ , weird that it's not mentioned on their website | 09:42 |
| duflu | Grrr | 09:43 |
| duflu | I probably don't have enough work days before before FF | 09:43 |
| seb128 | don't worry, we can always ask for a ffe if it includes features | 09:45 |
| duflu | There's no NEWS for it either. Let me see | 09:46 |
| duflu | Ah, yes wrong file | 09:47 |
| duflu | +ver 5.53: | 09:47 |
| duflu | + Fix issue with handling unregistration for advertisment. | 09:47 |
| duflu | + Fix issue with A2DP and handling recovering process. | 09:47 |
| duflu | + Fix issue with udpating input device information. | 09:47 |
| duflu | + Add support for loading blocked keys. | 09:47 |
| seb128 | unsure what the support for loading blocked keys is | 09:48 |
| seb128 | but sounds like it should be a ffe easy to get if needed | 09:49 |
| duflu | seb128, trying to roll it now | 09:55 |
| seb128 | duflu, thx | 10:05 |
| duflu | seb128, it seems to work -> bug 1864824 | 10:11 |
| ubot5 | bug 1864824 in bluez (Ubuntu) "BlueZ 5.53 release" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864824 | 10:11 |
| seb128 | duflu, thx! | 10:13 |
| duflu | Also https://git.launchpad.net/~bluetooth/bluez | 10:13 |
| duflu | Night | 10:13 |
| seb128 | 'night | 10:13 |
| seb128 | and thanks again for squeezing that before your eod | 10:14 |
| duflu | That's OK. It's done now, I hope | 10:15 |
| ricotz | hello desktopers :) | 11:31 |
| ricotz | I am wondering what is up with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsoup2.4/2.69.90-1 | 11:31 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi :), meson 0.53.2-1ubuntu1 at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/sponsoring/ | 11:46 |
| xnox | Laney: seb128: kenvandine: ubuntu desktop ISO failed to build today, because snap:snap-store uses the old snap:gnome-3-28-1804 which was no longer seeded. | 12:03 |
| xnox | only snap:gnome-3-34-1804 was seeded. | 12:03 |
| xnox | i have now seeded snap:gnome-3-28-1804 into ubuntu desktop-minimal | 12:04 |
| xnox | but i don't know if everything should be using 3-28 or 3-34 or both | 12:04 |
| xnox | however, i do want a fresh ubuntu iso =) | 12:04 |
| xnox | can you please request ubuntu desktop respin on the iso tracker? | 12:04 |
| Laney | I already pinged kenvandine about that earlier | 12:05 |
| kenvandine | I need to ask jdstrand to approve a revision in the store | 12:05 |
| Laney | so no, not yet, and probably leave it to the person responsible | 12:06 |
| kenvandine | It will need 3-34 | 12:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey | 12:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, i386 installability issue... I've pinged Steve about it yesterday | 12:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, I see | 12:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, meson builds here https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+build/18766799 | 12:07 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thx, I meant to have a look today so it spares me some work :) | 12:08 |
| seb128 | ricotz, uploaded :) | 12:09 |
| xnox | ok | 12:09 |
| xnox | well at least tomorrow's daily will build an iso irrespective of which revision is approved in the store. | 12:10 |
| xnox | i will revert the seed of old gnome-3.28 once the new snap-store snap lands | 12:10 |
| kenvandine | xnox: thanks | 12:15 |
| ricotz | seb128, thx | 12:15 |
| xnox | wow the new ubiquity icon is extra slick! | 12:47 |
| didrocks | isn’t it? :) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | kudos to Stuart from the Yaru team | 12:48 |
| xnox | it like actually makes sense | 12:48 |
| didrocks | once you see it, it’s just… so obvious | 12:48 |
| didrocks | :) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | we are in agreement | 12:48 |
| xnox | cause previous disk-drive => nobody knows how those look like, and the new tiny nvmes look nothing like the disk | 12:48 |
| didrocks | exactly, this is where the discussion started within the team | 12:49 |
| jibel | xnox, about 1847721, which version of partman-auto has this change? | 12:59 |
| jibel | bug 1847721 | 13:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1847721 in partman-efi (Ubuntu) "Always create the ESP" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847721 | 13:00 |
| Laney | who was asking for the package-team-mapping a few days ago? | 13:01 |
| didrocks | seb128 IIRC | 13:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, it was me | 13:01 |
| Laney | because I just found it: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/package-team-mapping.json | 13:01 |
| Laney | :> | 13:01 |
| seb128 | thx | 13:01 |
| Laney | np! | 13:01 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: I approved r287 and r288 | 13:06 |
| Laney | tseliot: btw, proposed a PR for ubuntu-drivers-common to support the OEM work we've been doing, review would be appreciated | 13:06 |
| Laney | please don't make me change the external interfaces :-) | 13:07 |
| Laney | ubiquity is relying on those now :P | 13:07 |
| Laney | well "now" -> in a branch | 13:07 |
| tseliot | Laney, sure, I'll have a look | 13:23 |
| Laney | merci | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand: thanks! | 13:24 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, you got lucky, xorg-server tests flipped green on a retry and it migrated :p | 13:45 |
| tjaalton | seb128: which version was that? | 13:45 |
| tjaalton | oh a rebuild | 13:46 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, 2:1.20.7-2ubuntu2 migrated | 13:46 |
| tjaalton | had no idea | 13:46 |
| seb128 | I pinged you about it during the team meeting yesterday! | 13:46 |
| seb128 | :( | 13:46 |
| tjaalton | and I repliead | 13:47 |
| tjaalton | -a | 13:47 |
| seb128 | ah, you had no idea it migrated | 13:47 |
| seb128 | I though you were saying you had no idea it was blocked :) | 13:47 |
| tjaalton | had no idea of the upload | 13:47 |
| seb128 | right | 13:47 |
| seb128 | well, you can forget about it, things sorted out themselve :) | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | right, good | 13:48 |
| Laney | you can NEVER forget about flaky tests! | 13:48 |
| * Laney haunts tjaalton's dreams | 13:48 | |
| tjaalton | haven't slept well these past weeks ;) | 13:49 |
| seb128 | don't you have items blocked on propose-migration waking you up at night?! | 13:49 |
| tjaalton | not at the moment, afaik :) | 13:50 |
| xnox | jibel: i mean, do i have to do this for you? =) got to pad.lv/u/partman-auto look that there is only one upload to focal since eoan, click on it read it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/134ubuntu13 then check ubiquity changelog to see that said partman-auto was included there and uploaded. | 14:05 |
| xnox | jibel: i don't memorize version numbers of all of my uploads for a quick hash-table lookup | 14:05 |
| jibel | xnox, if you don't have the version number in mind that's fine, i'll check it out. | 14:11 |
| xnox | jibel: note, it only creates an empty esp when booted in bios mode. Other components have not yet been changed to always dual-install pc+efi platforms of grub, when booted under efi | 14:56 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 15:03 |
| jibel | xnox, okay, I was asking to see if we can remove the code that creates an ESP to store grub configuration on zfs systems. | 15:03 |
| jibel | it'll have to be updated anyway. | 15:03 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | hi marcustomlinson | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | did you see my messages on ubuntu-release last night? | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | (honestly not sure if that was the right place) | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | i was looking for autotests to be relaunched | 15:05 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth! | 15:06 |
| hellsworth | hi didrocks :) | 15:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: may I abuse the transitions ppa to testbuild on armhf builder? | 15:17 |
| didrocks | (I see you have libsecret building there) | 15:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, sure, it's empty/not being used for any transition atm | 15:18 |
| didrocks | thx, doing, zsys failed there so I want to testbuild before doing an upload to the archive | 15:18 |
| seb128 | right | 15:18 |
| seb128 | I just tested the old libsecret on s390x there, to rule out an issue due to new glib or similar | 15:19 |
| didrocks | ack :) | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | xnox: you can revert your change adding gnome-3-28-1804 | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | all good now | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | that is not needed | 15:36 |
| xnox | Tah | 15:41 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: hey, I was in a meeting when chromium updated in the background. everything went fine, but if it weren't for me running aa-notify, I wouldn't have known | 17:37 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: this is obviously refresh-app-awareness | 17:37 |
| oSoMoN | jdstrand, yes, I suggest enabling the experimental flag, it works very well for me | 17:38 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: it did occur to me though, that it would be possible for you to run something in the background that could occasionally see if the current symlink changed | 17:38 |
| Trevinho | desktoppers, if someone is happy to test new shell stack... It's at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3944.2/ | 17:38 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: and then prompt to restart | 17:38 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: s/prompt/alert/ | 17:39 |
| oSoMoN | jdstrand, that's an interesting idea | 17:39 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: whenever refresh app awareness lands, it could be converted to see if something is pending, if so, prompt/alert to stop to have updates applied, or something | 17:39 |
| oSoMoN | not a great UX, but better than having the app starting to behave funny without a warning | 17:40 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: simple idea is to nohup a script in a wrapper before invoking chromium proper | 17:40 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: yeah. just an idea in case you thought there was something there | 17:41 |
| Trevinho | Laney, seb128: that silo is also fine to publish once the eappindicator thingy is uploaded to debian | 17:41 |
| oSoMoN | jdstrand, thanks for sharing it. I'll file a bug to track it, as I'm too busy with other tasks right now, but it's probably something I can experiment with next week | 17:41 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: iirc, firefox used to have UX built into it letting the user know it needed to be restarted, so there is some precedent for this sort of thing | 17:42 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: cool, see you next week if I don't talk to you sooner :) | 17:42 |
| oSoMoN | jdstrand, yes indeed, see you next week :) | 17:43 |
| oSoMoN | jdstrand, bug #1864901 | 17:48 |
| ubot5 | bug 1864901 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] suggestion: alert users when the snap has been refreshed while running" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864901 | 17:48 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I'll help you upload it all tomorrow | 17:59 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: could I request your help with ubuntu-release-upgrader too? that is if you're happy with my fixes (which I'll complete tonight) | 18:02 |
| Laney | marcustomlinson: yus ok | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | oSoMoN: thanks! :) | 18:03 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: :))))) | 18:03 |
| Laney | yes that's how it makes me feel too! | 18:05 |
| marcustomlinson | haha | 18:07 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: I blame kenvandine for it being late | 18:09 |
| Laney | piling on extra requirements? | 18:10 |
| marcustomlinson | haha, the gnome platform snap changes and it threw me a tasty curveball | 18:10 |
| marcustomlinson | *changed | 18:10 |
| Laney | ohh | 18:10 |
| Laney | I guess you don't want to rip that out unless it's unused | 18:11 |
| marcustomlinson | indeed | 18:11 |
| Laney | gude pointe welle made | 18:11 |
| marcustomlinson | and if it is used it needs to switch away from the release track to stable | 18:11 |
| marcustomlinson | anywho, this stuff is looking good now, just getting to your review comments now | 18:12 |
| Laney | r0x0r | 18:12 |
| Laney | on that note, au revoir | 18:12 |
| marcustomlinson | byyyye | 18:13 |
| Trevinho | seb128: you know Error looking up permission: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.NotFound: No entry for geolocation what could be caused from? what isn't updated? | 18:20 |
| k_alam | Hi | 19:11 |
| k_alam | I am getting errors with libx11 in proposed...Can anyone tell ? | 19:16 |
| k_alam | Unpacking libx11-dev:amd64 (2:1.6.9-1) ... | 19:16 |
| k_alam | dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-dvrEvm/292-libx11-dev_2%3a1.6.9-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 19:16 |
| k_alam | trying to overwrite '/usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBgeom.h', which is also in package x11proto-dev 2018.4-4 | 19:16 |
| mitya57 | k_alam: that is debian #952589 | 19:19 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 952589 in libx11-dev "libx11-dev: trying to overwrite '/usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBgeom.h', which is also in package x11proto-dev 2018.4-4" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/952589 | 19:19 |
| mitya57 | Already fixed in Debian, we need to wait until the autosyncer picks that | 19:20 |
| k_alam | mitya57: Alright. Thanks. | 19:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no idea sorry | 20:36 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| ChrisTownsend | Anyone know why on focal that the latest update says ubuntu-software is no longer required and gnome-calculator and gnome-characters are being installed? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QvHPTgHH9v/ | 21:32 |
| ChrisTownsend | I already have those installed as snaps, so I don't want the deb:) | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | ChrisTownsend: we are switching the seed back to the debs | 21:51 |
| kenvandine | feel free to switch back to the snap if you like :) | 21:51 |
| kenvandine | they will be maintained | 21:51 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: Oh? Why's that? | 21:51 |
| kenvandine | and gnome-software is being replaced by snap-store | 21:51 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: Ok about snap-store. | 21:52 |
| kenvandine | the primary reason to seed them as snaps was to help put pressure on improving snap integration on the desktop | 21:52 |
| kenvandine | and we've done that :) | 21:52 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: Ah, ok. Well, do I have to have the debs or can I manually remove them after they install? | 21:52 |
| kenvandine | you don't have to have them | 21:52 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: Ok, cool, thanks! | 21:53 |
| kenvandine | glad to hear you're sticking with the snap versions :) | 21:53 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: lol, I got used to them:) | 21:53 |
| kenvandine | i know i'm doing the same | 21:53 |
| kenvandine | ChrisTownsend: on dist-upgrade you won't get snap-store automatically though | 21:55 |
| kenvandine | install it from the stable/ubuntu-20.04 channel | 21:55 |
| ChrisTownsend | kenvandine: Ah, ok, thanks for the tip! | 21:56 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, did you hit the gscan2pdf problem already a week ago, before my effort to update sane-backends? | 22:19 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, yes, did you look at the autopkgtest url? it has been failing regularly for a while, it was blocking xorg-server before | 22:23 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I only saw that it was currently blocking 4 or 5 other packages, nice DoS attack to us of some Debian maintainer making us auto-sync an arm64-incompatible package in Universe which depends on important packages in Main. | 22:29 |
| seb128 | lol | 22:30 |
| tkamppeter | Later I have seen that the problem was there for longer time, so I made my merge request with "all" and not the current version number, so that we do not need to chase after it any more. | 22:30 |
| tkamppeter | Hope that this was not the problem that our SANE was already 2 upstream versions behind. | 22:31 |
| seb128 | not likely or your update would have worked | 22:31 |
| seb128 | ideally the hang would be debugged/resolved still though, skip is only a workaround | 22:31 |
| seb128 | but that should do for now | 22:31 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I thin Universe packages should not get considered in the proposed migration of Main packages. | 22:31 |
| seb128 | doko had been arguing for that as well I think | 22:32 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, by the way, there is also a Debian bug report on gscan2pdf and they found out that the problem is somewhere in our migration system infrastructure, manually running the arm64 autopkg test works. | 22:33 |
| seb128 | right, I doubt it's the infrastructure though, it's just that something there triggers the code bug | 22:34 |
| seb128 | could be because our builders are slow | 22:35 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, why did you move the Trello card into Done already? The merge request is not yet accepted. | 22:35 |
| seb128 | or something | 22:35 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, I probably picked the wrong column, can you move it back to 'in review'? | 22:35 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Done. | 22:36 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 22:36 |
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