[06:24] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:39] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:51] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:16] <didrocks> good morning
[07:22] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[07:25] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:30] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:32] <didrocks> bonjour oSoMoN
[08:31] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers
[08:45] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:45] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va ?
[08:46] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, mais rush de fixes avant de faire une release de zsys :p
[08:47] <seb128> the ff fun!
[08:49] <didrocks> yep!
[09:01] <Laney> hello
[09:02] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN duflu didrocks and seb128
[09:02] <marcustomlinson> aaaaand Laney
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney, marcustomlinson, how are you today?
[09:03] <seb128> Laney one minute earlier than usual, change of routine! :)
[09:03] <marcustomlinson> seb128: yeah ok, stressing over every stomach cramp my wife has, but otherwise just fine ;) yourself?
[09:03] <didrocks> good morning marcustomlinson & Laney
[09:03] <seb128> marcustomlinson, oh, good luck with that!
[09:03] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: good luck, this is the end of the road :p
[09:04] <marcustomlinson> the end of my life forever...
[09:04] <marcustomlinson> XD
[09:06] <Laney> hi marcustomlinson seb128 didrocks
[09:06] <Laney> hmm, keeping a log of what time I say hello, interesting
[09:06] <seb128> lol
[09:07] <seb128> it's part of the KPIs!
[09:07]  * Laney writes a script
[09:07] <duflu> Morning Laney and marcustomlinson
[09:08] <Wimpress> Morning desktopers o/
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> hey Wimpress
[09:09] <Wimpress> marcustomlinson: Morning
[09:11] <Laney> error: cannot validate seed:
[09:11] <Laney> - cannot use snap "snap-store": default provider "gnome-3-28-1804" is missing
[09:12] <Laney> kenvandine: please can you do the fixing of the iso?
[09:12] <Laney> hi Wimpress
[09:13] <Wimpress> Morning Laney
[09:15] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[09:15] <Wimpress> Morning didrocks
[09:16] <Laney> and duflu!
[09:16] <Wimpress> You might want to have a chat with popey about zsys
[09:16] <popey> we have emailed
[09:16] <Wimpress> Brilliant :-D
[09:16] <popey> its all in hand
[09:16] <jibel> and we replied :)
[09:16] <popey> \o/
[09:16] <Wimpress> Double brilliant  :-D
[09:16] <popey> BY THE POWER OF COMMUNICATION!
[09:17]  * Wimpress is awestruck
[09:42] <seb128> duflu, hum, bluez 5.53 was tagged 11 days ago and has a tarball on https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/bluetooth/ , weird that it's not mentioned on their website
[09:43] <duflu> Grrr
[09:43] <duflu> I probably don't have enough work days before before FF
[09:45] <seb128> don't worry, we can always ask for a ffe if it includes features
[09:46] <duflu> There's no NEWS for it either. Let me see
[09:47] <duflu> Ah, yes wrong file
[09:47] <duflu> +ver 5.53:
[09:47] <duflu> +       Fix issue with handling unregistration for advertisment.
[09:47] <duflu> +       Fix issue with A2DP and handling recovering process.
[09:47] <duflu> +       Fix issue with udpating input device information.
[09:47] <duflu> +       Add support for loading blocked keys.
[09:48] <seb128> unsure what the support for loading blocked keys is
[09:49] <seb128> but sounds like it should be a ffe easy to get if needed
[09:55] <duflu> seb128, trying to roll it now
[10:05] <seb128> duflu, thx
[10:11] <duflu> seb128, it seems to work -> bug 1864824
[10:11] <ubot5> bug 1864824 in bluez (Ubuntu) "BlueZ 5.53 release" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864824
[10:13] <seb128> duflu, thx!
[10:13] <duflu> Also https://git.launchpad.net/~bluetooth/bluez
[10:13] <duflu> Night
[10:13] <seb128> 'night
[10:14] <seb128> and thanks again for squeezing that before your eod
[10:15] <duflu> That's OK. It's done now, I hope
[11:31] <ricotz> hello desktopers :)
[11:31] <ricotz> I am wondering what is up with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsoup2.4/2.69.90-1
[11:46] <ricotz> seb128, hi :), meson 0.53.2-1ubuntu1 at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/sponsoring/
[12:03] <xnox> Laney:  seb128: kenvandine: ubuntu desktop ISO failed to build today, because snap:snap-store uses the old snap:gnome-3-28-1804 which was no longer seeded.
[12:03] <xnox> only snap:gnome-3-34-1804 was seeded.
[12:04] <xnox> i have now seeded snap:gnome-3-28-1804 into ubuntu desktop-minimal
[12:04] <xnox> but i don't know if everything should be using 3-28 or 3-34 or both
[12:04] <xnox> however, i do want a fresh ubuntu iso =)
[12:04] <xnox> can you please request ubuntu desktop respin on the iso tracker?
[12:05] <Laney> I already pinged kenvandine about that earlier
[12:05] <kenvandine> I need to ask jdstrand to approve a revision in the store
[12:06] <Laney> so no, not yet, and probably leave it to the person responsible
[12:06] <kenvandine> It will need 3-34
[12:06] <seb128> ricotz, hey
[12:07] <seb128> ricotz, i386 installability issue... I've pinged Steve about it yesterday
[12:07] <ricotz> seb128, hi, I see
[12:07] <ricotz> seb128, meson builds here https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+build/18766799
[12:08] <seb128> ricotz, thx, I meant to have a look today so it spares me some work :)
[12:09] <seb128> ricotz, uploaded :)
[12:09] <xnox> ok
[12:10] <xnox> well at least tomorrow's daily will build an iso irrespective of which revision is approved in the store.
[12:10] <xnox> i will revert the seed of old gnome-3.28 once the new snap-store snap lands
[12:15] <kenvandine> xnox: thanks
[12:15] <ricotz> seb128, thx
[12:47] <xnox> wow the new ubiquity icon is extra slick!
[12:47] <didrocks> isn’t it? :)
[12:48] <didrocks> kudos to Stuart from the Yaru team
[12:48] <xnox> it like actually makes sense
[12:48] <didrocks> once you see it, it’s just… so obvious
[12:48] <didrocks> :)
[12:48] <didrocks> we are in agreement
[12:48] <xnox> cause previous disk-drive => nobody knows how those look like, and the new tiny nvmes look nothing like the disk
[12:49] <didrocks> exactly, this is where the discussion started within the team
[12:59] <jibel> xnox, about 1847721, which version of partman-auto has this change?
[13:00] <jibel> bug 1847721
[13:00] <ubot5> bug 1847721 in partman-efi (Ubuntu) "Always create the ESP" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847721
[13:01] <Laney> who was asking for the package-team-mapping a few days ago?
[13:01] <didrocks> seb128 IIRC
[13:01] <seb128> Laney, it was me
[13:01] <Laney> because I just found it: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/package-team-mapping.json
[13:01] <Laney> :>
[13:01] <seb128> thx
[13:01] <Laney> np!
[13:06] <jdstrand> kenvandine: I approved r287 and r288
[13:06] <Laney> tseliot: btw, proposed a PR for ubuntu-drivers-common to support the OEM work we've been doing, review would be appreciated
[13:07] <Laney> please don't make me change the external interfaces :-)
[13:07] <Laney> ubiquity is relying on those now :P
[13:07] <Laney> well "now" -> in a branch
[13:23] <tseliot> Laney, sure, I'll have a look
[13:23] <Laney> merci
[13:24] <kenvandine> jdstrand: thanks!
[13:45] <seb128> tjaalton, you got lucky, xorg-server tests flipped green on a retry and it migrated :p
[13:45] <tjaalton> seb128: which version was that?
[13:46] <tjaalton> oh a rebuild
[13:46] <seb128> tjaalton, 2:1.20.7-2ubuntu2  migrated
[13:46] <tjaalton> had no idea
[13:46] <seb128> I pinged you about it during the team meeting yesterday!
[13:46] <seb128> :(
[13:47] <tjaalton> and I repliead
[13:47] <tjaalton> -a
[13:47] <seb128> ah, you had no idea it migrated
[13:47] <seb128> I though you were saying you had no idea it was blocked :)
[13:47] <tjaalton> had no idea of the upload
[13:47] <seb128> right
[13:48] <seb128> well, you can forget about it, things sorted out themselve :)
[13:48] <tjaalton> right, good
[13:48] <Laney> you can NEVER forget about flaky tests!
[13:48]  * Laney haunts tjaalton's dreams
[13:49] <tjaalton> haven't slept well these past weeks ;)
[13:49] <seb128> don't you have items blocked on propose-migration waking you up at night?!
[13:50] <tjaalton> not at the moment, afaik :)
[14:05] <xnox> jibel:  i mean, do i have to do this for you? =) got to pad.lv/u/partman-auto look that there is only one upload to focal since eoan, click on it read it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/134ubuntu13 then check ubiquity changelog to see that said partman-auto was included there and uploaded.
[14:05] <xnox> jibel:  i don't memorize version numbers of all of my uploads for a quick hash-table lookup
[14:11] <jibel> xnox, if you don't have the version number in mind that's fine, i'll check it out.
[14:56] <xnox> jibel:  note, it only creates an empty esp when booted in bios mode. Other components have not yet been changed to always dual-install pc+efi platforms of grub, when booted under efi
[15:03] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:03] <jibel> xnox, okay, I was asking to see if we can remove the code that creates an ESP to store grub configuration on zfs systems.
[15:03] <jibel> it'll have to be updated anyway.
[15:05] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:05] <hellsworth> hi marcustomlinson
[15:05] <hellsworth> did you see my messages on ubuntu-release last night?
[15:05] <hellsworth> (honestly not sure if that was the right place)
[15:05] <hellsworth> i was looking for autotests to be relaunched
[15:06] <didrocks> hey hellsworth!
[15:06] <hellsworth> hi didrocks :)
[15:17] <didrocks> seb128: may I abuse the transitions ppa to testbuild on armhf builder?
[15:17] <didrocks> (I see you have libsecret building there)
[15:18] <seb128> didrocks, sure, it's empty/not being used for any transition atm
[15:18] <didrocks> thx, doing, zsys failed there so I want to testbuild before doing an upload to the archive
[15:18] <seb128> right
[15:19] <seb128> I just tested the old libsecret on s390x there, to rule out an issue due to new glib or similar
[15:19] <didrocks> ack :)
[15:36] <kenvandine> xnox: you can revert your change adding gnome-3-28-1804
[15:36] <kenvandine> all good now
[15:36] <kenvandine> that is not needed
[15:41] <xnox> Tah
[17:37] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: hey, I was in a meeting when chromium updated in the background. everything went fine, but if it weren't for me running aa-notify, I wouldn't have known
[17:37] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: this is obviously refresh-app-awareness
[17:38] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, yes, I suggest enabling the experimental flag, it works very well for me
[17:38] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: it did occur to me though, that it would be possible for you to run something in the background that could occasionally see if the current symlink changed
[17:38] <Trevinho> desktoppers, if someone is happy to test new shell stack... It's at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3944.2/
[17:38] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: and then prompt to restart
[17:39] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: s/prompt/alert/
[17:39] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, that's an interesting idea
[17:39] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: whenever refresh app awareness lands, it could be converted to see if something is pending, if so, prompt/alert to stop to have updates applied, or something
[17:40] <oSoMoN> not a great UX, but better than having the app starting to behave funny without a warning
[17:40] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: simple idea is to nohup a script in a wrapper before invoking chromium proper
[17:41] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: yeah. just an idea in case you thought there was something there
[17:41] <Trevinho> Laney, seb128: that silo is also fine to publish once the eappindicator thingy is uploaded to debian
[17:41] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, thanks for sharing it. I'll file a bug to track it, as I'm too busy with other tasks right now, but it's probably something I can experiment with next week
[17:42] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: iirc, firefox used to have UX built into it letting the user know it needed to be restarted, so there is some precedent for this sort of thing
[17:42] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: cool, see you next week if I don't talk to you sooner :)
[17:43] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, yes indeed, see you next week :)
[17:48] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, bug #1864901
[17:48] <ubot5> bug 1864901 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] suggestion: alert users when the snap has been refreshed while running" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864901
[17:59] <Laney> Trevinho: I'll help you upload it all tomorrow
[18:02] <marcustomlinson> Laney: could I request your help with ubuntu-release-upgrader too? that is if you're happy with my fixes (which I'll complete tonight)
[18:02] <Laney> marcustomlinson: yus ok
[18:03] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: thanks! :)
[18:03] <marcustomlinson> Laney: :)))))
[18:05] <Laney> yes that's how it makes me feel too!
[18:07] <marcustomlinson> haha
[18:09] <marcustomlinson> Laney: I blame kenvandine for it being late
[18:10] <Laney> piling on extra requirements?
[18:10] <marcustomlinson> haha, the gnome platform snap changes and it threw me a tasty curveball
[18:10] <marcustomlinson> *changed
[18:10] <Laney> ohh
[18:11] <Laney> I guess you don't want to rip that out unless it's unused
[18:11] <marcustomlinson> indeed
[18:11] <Laney> gude pointe welle made
[18:11] <marcustomlinson> and if it is used it needs to switch away from the release track to stable
[18:12] <marcustomlinson> anywho, this stuff is looking good now, just getting to your review comments now
[18:12] <Laney> r0x0r
[18:12] <Laney> on that note, au revoir
[18:13] <marcustomlinson> byyyye
[18:20] <Trevinho> seb128: you know Error looking up permission: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.NotFound: No entry for geolocation what could be caused from? what isn't updated?
[19:11] <k_alam> Hi
[19:16] <k_alam> I am getting errors with libx11 in proposed...Can anyone tell ?
[19:16] <k_alam> Unpacking libx11-dev:amd64 (2:1.6.9-1) ...
[19:16] <k_alam> dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-dvrEvm/292-libx11-dev_2%3a1.6.9-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[19:16] <k_alam>  trying to overwrite '/usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBgeom.h', which is also in package x11proto-dev 2018.4-4
[19:19] <mitya57> k_alam: that is debian #952589
[19:19] <ubot5> Debian bug 952589 in libx11-dev "libx11-dev: trying to overwrite '/usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBgeom.h', which is also in package x11proto-dev 2018.4-4" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/952589
[19:20] <mitya57> Already fixed in Debian, we need to wait until the autosyncer picks that
[19:21] <k_alam> mitya57: Alright. Thanks.
[20:36] <seb128> Trevinho, no idea sorry
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[21:32] <ChrisTownsend> Anyone know why on focal that the latest update says ubuntu-software is no longer required and gnome-calculator and gnome-characters are being installed? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QvHPTgHH9v/
[21:33] <ChrisTownsend> I already have those installed as snaps, so I don't want the deb:)
[21:51] <kenvandine> ChrisTownsend: we are switching the seed back to the debs
[21:51] <kenvandine> feel free to switch back to the snap if you like :)
[21:51] <kenvandine> they will be maintained
[21:51] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: Oh?  Why's that?
[21:51] <kenvandine> and gnome-software is being replaced by snap-store
[21:52] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: Ok about snap-store.
[21:52] <kenvandine> the primary reason to seed them as snaps was to help put pressure on improving snap integration on the desktop
[21:52] <kenvandine> and we've done that :)
[21:52] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: Ah, ok.  Well, do I have to have the debs or can I manually remove them after they install?
[21:52] <kenvandine> you don't have to have them
[21:53] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: Ok, cool, thanks!
[21:53] <kenvandine> glad to hear you're sticking with the snap versions :)
[21:53] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: lol, I got used to them:)
[21:53] <kenvandine> i know i'm doing the same
[21:55] <kenvandine> ChrisTownsend: on dist-upgrade you won't get snap-store automatically though
[21:55] <kenvandine> install it from the stable/ubuntu-20.04 channel
[21:56] <ChrisTownsend> kenvandine: Ah, ok, thanks for the tip!
[22:19] <tkamppeter> seb128, did you hit the gscan2pdf problem already a week ago, before my effort to update sane-backends?
[22:23] <seb128> tkamppeter, yes, did you look at the autopkgtest url? it has been failing regularly for a while, it was blocking xorg-server before
[22:29] <tkamppeter> seb128, I only saw that it was currently blocking 4 or 5 other packages, nice DoS attack to us of some Debian maintainer making us auto-sync an arm64-incompatible package in Universe which depends on important packages in Main.
[22:30] <seb128> lol
[22:30] <tkamppeter> Later I have seen that the problem was there for longer time, so I made my merge request with "all" and not the current version number, so that we do not need to chase after it any more.
[22:31] <tkamppeter> Hope that this was not the problem that our SANE was already 2 upstream versions behind.
[22:31] <seb128> not likely or your update would have worked
[22:31] <seb128> ideally the hang would be debugged/resolved still though, skip is only a workaround
[22:31] <seb128> but that should do for now
[22:31] <tkamppeter> seb128, I thin Universe packages should not get considered in the proposed migration of Main packages.
[22:32] <seb128> doko had been arguing for that as well I think
[22:33] <tkamppeter> seb128, by the way, there is also a Debian bug report on gscan2pdf and they found out that the problem is somewhere in our migration system infrastructure, manually running the arm64 autopkg test works.
[22:34] <seb128> right, I doubt it's the infrastructure though, it's just that something there triggers the code bug
[22:35] <seb128> could be because our builders are slow
[22:35] <tkamppeter> seb128, why did you move the Trello card into Done already? The merge request is not yet accepted.
[22:35] <seb128> or something
[22:35] <seb128> tkamppeter, I probably picked the wrong column, can you move it back to 'in review'?
[22:36] <tkamppeter> seb128, Done.
[22:36] <seb128> thanks!