[01:09] <krytarik> JackFrost, knome: https://webchat.freenode.net/#xubuntu-devel?nick=xubuntuer? - this form appears to work.  Also, https://xubuntu.org/dev/ → Communication → IRC channel, as jphilips indicated, still has the old link, and the box on <https://xubuntu.org/irc/> is broken too.
[01:09] <JackFrost> krytarik: My link *did* work at one time.
[01:16] <krytarik> JackFrost: Well, I figured it from their current examples anyway. >_>
[01:29] <JackFrost> krytarik: However, swap out the freenode webchat with kiwiirc, see if it works for you. :>
[01:32] <krytarik> Course not, cause it'd be missing the network specification then! >_<
[01:32] <JackFrost> WFM.
[01:32] <krytarik> Uhuh, actually lemme try then..
[01:33] <JackFrost> https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/?nick=xubuntuer?#xubuntu-devel I too didn't expect it to work.
[01:34] <JackFrost> ...And that's not working for meee. :D
[01:44] <krytarik> So <https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/chat.freenode.net/#xubuntu-devel?nick=xubuntuer?> funnily enough puts the channel name along with the nick name parameter into the channel name field, and <https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/#irc://chat.freenode.net/#xubuntu-devel?nick=xubuntuer?> does it correctly but looks different at the start.
[01:44] <krytarik> (And your link doesn't work for me either.)
[01:44] <JackFrost> https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/chat.freenode.net/?nick=xubuntuer?#xubuntu-devel
[01:45] <krytarik> lol
[01:45] <JackFrost> I don't know what I did earlier, but I didn't include network.  Perhaps a cookie after clicking the other link first or so.
[06:29] <guiverc> a link on https://xubuntu.org/release/19-10/ (to http://mirror.exetel.com.au/pub/ubuntu/xubuntu-releases/19.10/release/) shows as 404; they haven't mirrored 19.10 is the problem; want me to log/report somewhere?  (or no point; there's nothing you can do about mirrors quite possibly)
[06:46] <krytarik> guiverc: I see that's the main Australia one, and while it's true that we won't go and make the mirror work, someone who has access to the website can of course just drop it and make another one the main.  And also, the same is true for the 18.04.4 release.
[06:47] <guiverc> :)    (didn't think to try 18.04.4; newer even than 19.10 so makes sense not having that also)
[06:49] <krytarik> Yeah, it occurred to me that they might have stopped updating at some point generally, so I checked.. :/
[07:56] <knome> JackFrost, the box in /irc looks like it works for me?
[08:02] <knome> but all of the pages should be working now
[08:03] <knome> aarnet made the main australian mirror, exetel dropped from the list
[08:04] <knome> i've also made all of the pages i touched gutenberg, so a bit less work in converting the pages
[10:26] <bluesabre> jphilips, we only added the Super+L shortcut. The team hasn't been very active this cycle to move on other proposals. When we suggested adjusting the panel size, I think the conversation broke down to everybody sharing their current panel layout and no progress was made. I personally use a 28px panel, so I might bring it up again shortly prior to UI Freeze.
[10:28] <jphilips> bluesabre: Super+L was added before i made the proposal :D
[10:28] <bluesabre> JackFrost: Not had a chance to consider it recently. Been tied up at work, and recent news makes it seem like I'll be working harder for the foreseeable future.
[10:29] <bluesabre> x.x
[10:30] <jphilips> have proposed some of the shortcuts upstream so that it might trickle into xubuntu that way - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16470
[10:30] <bluesabre> jphilips: nice, that's definitely the best way to get things into Xubuntu :)
[10:31] <jphilips> proposed xfce also add some of xubuntu's good shortcuts. would be nice if all xfce desktops all had the same ones
[10:33] <jphilips> would like to contribute some UI improvements before the freeze next month, but not sure how feasible they would to getting in
[10:33] <knome> best way is to talk about them
[10:49] <jphilips> downloaded the latest daily so i could go through it thoroughly, but one would be the addition of some launchers after the whisker menu button
[14:27] <astraljava> brainwash: Finally had a chance to test on a new user. There it seems to work, so it's gotta be some of my settings. But I don't understand which.
[15:53] <jphilips> found a bug in the offline documentation. should i file it on launchpad and if so where
[19:10] <jphilips> was the disabling/hiding of the 'Lock Screen' button in the whisker menu intentional, as it was there in 19.10 but gone in 20.04
[20:29] <jphilips> is there a git repo to submit patches to?
[20:38] <pleia2> jphilips: this page had all the links https://xubuntu.org/contribute/documentation/
[20:38] <pleia2> including the git repo, and where we track bugs
[20:39] <pleia2> and thank you :) we really need more eyes on the documentation
[20:39] <pleia2> especially with the LTS coming up
[20:45] <jphilips> pleia2: had already seen the git repo info for documentation, but not sure whether the bug i saw is a bug or not
[20:46] <jphilips> meaning if it is a bug with doc or a bug in whisker menu
[20:46] <jphilips> in 19.10, the whisker menu has the 'lock screen' button, but its gone in 20.04. was this intentional?
[20:47] <pleia2> I don't know, but hopefully someone here does and can chime in when they're around
[20:57] <brainwash> jphilips: check https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/log/
[21:03] <jphilips> brainwash: thanks
[21:03] <jphilips> guess this is it - https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=a2b3677aae988b469c7ad6a7eaad25590d5b2bd9
[21:05] <brainwash> anything wrong with it?
[21:06] <jphilips> the commit says 'Remove lock menu option in live since locking is disabled'
[21:07] <jphilips> which is true, but then the documentation says the icon should be there, which it isnt
[21:07] <jphilips> so not sure what should be done
[21:07] <jphilips> bluesabre: what is your thought about this ^^
[21:07] <brainwash> the live session has documentation for that?
[21:09] <jphilips> https://imgur.com/KTz8VDM.png
[21:09] <jphilips> under 'The Panel' it says 'for Settings Manager, Lock Screen and Log Out.'
[21:10] <brainwash> but it does not mention the live session
[21:10] <brainwash> you don't enter any user data also
[21:10] <brainwash> to login
[21:12] <jphilips> it doesnt mention that this documentation isnt applicable to the live session either
[21:12] <jphilips> its describing the whisker menu which is available in both
[21:12] <jphilips> guess the best fix is to modify documentation and after 'Lock Screen' have ' (not in live session)' or something like that