| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9af1a0c65253: Fix capitlization of channel title] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9af1a0c65253 | 00:11 | |
| kc2bez | wxl: I noticed some weirdness in today's daily. Can you confirm 2 things? 1.) It looks like the media is automatically checked on boot. Was that expected? 2.) It looks like calamares debug is enabled no matter how I start it? | 01:33 |
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| wxl | #2 i wonder if it's that easter egg thing | 01:33 |
| kc2bez | Well you should be able to invoke that with a `-d` but it shouldn't normally show. | 01:34 |
| wxl | https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/a865620f902988f890781fb4576cf151c779133f | 01:34 |
| wxl | that || suggests there's some additional condition | 01:34 |
| guiverc | I noted on discourse.ubuntu.com the self-checking was going to be looked at, worked on for 20.04 | 01:35 |
| wxl | wot | 01:35 |
| wxl | where? | 01:35 |
| * guiverc is looking | 01:35 | |
| guiverc | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/defaulting-to-verify-the-image-integrity-before-installing-on-desktop/13472 | 01:36 |
| wxl | the only new "high impact packages" alert i've seen is on libglx-mesa0 and ubiquity | 01:37 |
| wxl | does that happen on efi and bios? | 01:37 |
| kc2bez | So far I have only tested bios | 01:38 |
| wxl | i'm seeing it on efi | 01:38 |
| kc2bez | I'm all for it, it just caught me by surprise. | 01:38 |
| wxl | maybe reply there and see if there's something new? | 01:38 |
| wxl | or maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel? | 01:39 |
| guiverc | If you want me to look/try, ask.. I'm looking at wallpapers... | 01:43 |
| wxl | feel free | 01:43 |
| wxl | guiverc: what would be nice is checking if the check disc for defects is true for all flavors | 01:44 |
| guiverc | ack, I triggered lubu_64 zsync, I'll grab xubu next | 01:46 |
| wxl | @kc2bez: -D0 | 01:48 |
| kc2bez | interesting | 01:49 |
| kc2bez | I'm not noticing the check for disk defects on mate | 01:57 |
| wxl | https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1328 | 01:58 |
| ubot93 | Issue 1328 in calamares/calamares "add tags in logs" [Open] | 01:58 |
| wxl | unrelated to the above discussion but just saying | 01:58 |
| kc2bez | Yes please. | 01:59 |
| kc2bez | I gave it a +1 | 01:59 |
| wxl | it's a bug | 02:05 |
| kc2bez | [ade] might begin to hate us XD | 02:07 |
| wxl | sounds like we might get a release tomorrow | 02:10 |
| wxl | and then he's on 2 week "vacation" | 02:10 |
| kc2bez | I will keep an eye open. | 02:10 |
| wxl | if not, dealing with it upon return wouldn't eb bad either | 02:10 |
| kc2bez | We can workaround that if necessary | 02:11 |
| kc2bez | far worse problems to have. | 02:11 |
| wxl | yep | 02:11 |
| wxl | ok headed home | 02:11 |
| kc2bez | take care | 02:11 |
| guiverc | booting daily on dc7700 (bios box) ; yeah it's check disc for defects for me | 02:16 |
| guiverc | (lubu 20.04) | 02:16 |
| guiverc | booting daily in hp8200 (black grub like first screen so uefi maybe) has it validate also | 02:18 |
| guiverc | lub 20.04 daily checked media for issues too on thinkpad sl510 (bios). Xubuntu 20.04 daily on hp8200 took a long time to boot, but I didn't notice any check-disk-defects messages/indications | 02:30 |
| guiverc | no evidence of media validation on hp dc7700 for xubuntu daily; I've started kubu download | 02:39 |
| kc2bez | I just did kubuntu | 02:41 |
| kc2bez | I got the check disk | 02:41 |
| guiverc | :) thanks, I cancelled zsync | 02:41 |
| guiverc | want me to do ubu_64? (not flavor) | 02:42 |
| kc2bez | It probably wouldn't be a bad thing. | 02:42 |
| guiverc | ubu 20.04 daily on (hp) dc7700 slow booting (subjective but xub seemed slower to me than i expected) but nothing on screen to indicate validation of media | 03:43 |
| guiverc | i also booted ubu 20.04 daily on hp 8200 & no obvious checks, wrote the ISO to bad media; it failed check (expected) but boots without issue so ubu 20.04 isn't validating | 04:43 |
| wxl | thanks guiverc | 05:48 |
| wxl | @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation our images are now doing (but apparently not mate or xubuntu) | 05:48 |
| guiverc | wxl, i can write xub to bad media (actually a new verbatim thumb-drive) if helpful to re-test that .. whilst xub seemed slow to boot, it's subjective as I don't time boots | 05:51 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> @wxl [<wxl> @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation o …], I'm seeing that on Ubuntu MATE's brand new ISO | 05:51 |
| wxl | ah ok | 05:51 |
| wxl | guiverc: i guess you could hexedit the iso and get the same effect in a vm | 05:52 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> wxl did you get any kind of answer to that question about the check on irc? | 05:55 |
| wxl | @franksmcb none. i accidentially posted at -devel and then moved it over to -release too so many eyes have been on it | 05:56 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> I'm debating filing a bug as well | 05:58 |
| wxl | i wonder if the grub configuration has changed somehow | 05:59 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> I submitted a bug #1864959 screenshot included. | 06:13 |
| wxl | no # if you want ubot to parse it | 06:13 |
| wxl | bug 1864959 | 06:14 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1864959 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "20200227 ISO runs Checking disk before starting installer" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864959 | 06:14 |
| wxl | it's not ubiquity tho cuz it affects us | 06:14 |
| wxl | i'd hit up grub2 | 06:14 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> Ahhh...casper? | 06:14 |
| wxl | hmmmm | 06:14 |
| wxl | maybe | 06:14 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> Added casper and grub2. Someone smarter will either slap my hand or route them properly, or both | 06:16 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> Thanks wxl | 06:17 |
| wxl | good methodology | 06:18 |
| wxl | the more inflammatory the better XD | 06:18 |
| wxl | /cdrom/boot/grub/grub.cfg seems to have the expected line for lubuntu | 06:23 |
| guiverc | wxl, my earlier comments were on booting live, I didn't do installs | 06:26 |
| wxl | right | 06:26 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> This is what I get for saying i'll just do some installs before bed | 06:31 |
| wxl | yeah i'm kind of over trying to figure it out right now sheesh | 06:32 |
| lubot | <lynorian> understandable | 06:32 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> :) | 06:32 |
| guiverc | I've started a xub 20.04 install; I haven't noticed any media check (copying files now) | 06:32 |
| lubot | <RikMills> @wxl [<wxl> @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation o …], nope | 08:55 |
| lubot | <RikMills> new feature then. sounds a good idea. | 10:01 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Yeah, I think it is great. It caught me a bit off guard but I like the idea. | 10:06 |
| lubot | <RikMills> Should stop a lot of ubiquity/installer bugs, that just end up marked invalid as media is corrupt! | 10:07 |
| wxl | wth colord-kde depends on gnome-color-manager. i'm confused. | 16:16 |
| wxl | yeah wow it is new in casper https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+changelog | 16:19 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> I felt bad when I saw that it was a new added feature :) | 16:23 |
| * wxl shrugs | 16:25 | |
| wxl | "check disc for defects" is still there | 16:25 |
| wxl | which kind of seems like a bug | 16:26 |
| wxl | also a bug: it's using md5 https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/casper-md5check/casper-md5check.c?h=ubuntu/focal | 16:27 |
| wxl | (i'd suggest sha256) | 16:27 |
| wxl | TIL snap update frequency is 4x daily https://ubuntu.com/blog/experimental-feature-snap-refresh-awareness-and-update-inhibition | 16:37 |
| wxl | @fransmcb do you have a copy of the 20200227 mate iso available? could you boot to the check and try to use "s" to escape out? | 16:44 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> wxl give me a moment and i'll do that | 16:57 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> It does not escape out once it starts the check | 17:00 |
| wxl | so neither s nor S does it? | 17:00 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> Nope | 17:01 |
| wxl | could you boot in and verify the version of casper? | 17:01 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> 1.440 | 17:04 |
| wxl | aw heck you don't have the latest version | 17:04 |
| wxl | there's where the skip came in | 17:05 |
| wxl | so when lubuntu gets their new image i'll be able to check it out | 17:05 |
| lubot | <franksmcb> Copy that | 17:06 |
| wxl | 1.441 is the one with the skip | 17:06 |
| wxl | https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/casper-md5check/casper-md5check.c?h=ubuntu/focal#n221 fwiw | 17:06 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @lynorian will want to know that ^ for the docs. | 17:26 |
| wxl | there should be little reason for anyone to want to skip it | 18:01 |
| wxl | s/anyone/the average person/ | 18:01 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I was thinking the fact that it does the check by default should be documented more than the "skip feature". | 18:03 |
| wxl | oh yes | 18:04 |
| wxl | to replace the thing that suggests people run it XD | 18:04 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Yeah, absolutely. | 18:04 |
| wxl | confirmed the skip works | 18:31 |
| wxl | and there's a message about it, too | 18:31 |
| lubot | <lynorian> How does this affect me With check disk for defects is casper now autochecking media? | 18:48 |
| wxl | it's autochecking | 18:48 |
| lubot | <lynorian> cool | 18:48 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL175d58e1990a: Remove extranous text] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL175d58e1990a | 19:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe65f374fec0d: Start snapping] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe65f374fec0d | 19:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfba1b1f87930: Get name working] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfba1b1f87930 | 19:54 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8454d2a8a493: Add source URL to snap] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8454d2a8a493 | 20:00 | |
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| wxl | @kc2bez: new cala. get on it :) | 22:41 |
| kc2bez | 👍 | 22:41 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGc6129ea27e27: Bump version for new upstream release.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGc6129ea27e27 | 23:06 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING72c824bff463: Upload to focal.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING72c824bff463 | 23:06 | |
| kc2bez | ^ It's building now. Grab it when you can. :D | 23:15 |
| wxl | i know! | 23:15 |
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