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[01:33] <kc2bez> wxl: I noticed some weirdness in today's daily. Can you confirm 2 things? 1.) It looks like the media is automatically checked on boot. Was that expected? 2.) It looks like calamares debug is enabled no matter how I start it?
[01:33] <wxl> #2 i wonder if it's that easter egg thing
[01:34] <kc2bez> Well you should be able to invoke that with a `-d` but it shouldn't normally show.
[01:34] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/a865620f902988f890781fb4576cf151c779133f
[01:34] <wxl> that || suggests there's some additional condition
[01:35] <guiverc> I noted on discourse.ubuntu.com the self-checking was going to be looked at, worked on for 20.04
[01:35] <wxl> wot
[01:35] <wxl> where?
[01:35]  * guiverc is looking
[01:36] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/defaulting-to-verify-the-image-integrity-before-installing-on-desktop/13472
[01:37] <wxl> the only new "high impact packages" alert i've seen is on libglx-mesa0 and ubiquity
[01:37] <wxl> does that happen on efi and bios?
[01:38] <kc2bez> So far I have only tested bios
[01:38] <wxl> i'm seeing it on efi
[01:38] <kc2bez> I'm all for it, it just caught me by surprise.
[01:38] <wxl> maybe reply there and see if there's something new?
[01:39] <wxl> or maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel?
[01:43] <guiverc> If you want me to look/try, ask.. I'm looking at wallpapers...
[01:43] <wxl> feel free
[01:44] <wxl> guiverc: what would be nice is checking if the check disc for defects is true for all flavors
[01:46] <guiverc> ack, I triggered lubu_64 zsync, I'll grab xubu next
[01:48] <wxl> @kc2bez: -D0
[01:49] <kc2bez> interesting
[01:57] <kc2bez> I'm not noticing the check for disk  defects on mate
[01:58] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1328
[01:58] <wxl> unrelated to the above discussion but just saying
[01:59] <kc2bez> Yes please.
[01:59] <kc2bez> I gave it a +1
[02:05] <wxl> it's a bug
[02:07] <kc2bez> [ade] might begin to hate us XD
[02:10] <wxl> sounds like we might get a release tomorrow 
[02:10] <wxl> and then he's on 2 week "vacation"
[02:10] <kc2bez> I will keep an eye open. 
[02:10] <wxl> if not, dealing with it upon return wouldn't eb bad either
[02:11] <kc2bez> We can workaround that if necessary
[02:11] <kc2bez> far worse problems to have. 
[02:11] <wxl> yep
[02:11] <wxl> ok headed home
[02:11] <kc2bez> take care
[02:16] <guiverc> booting daily on dc7700 (bios box) ; yeah it's check disc for defects for me
[02:16] <guiverc> (lubu 20.04)
[02:18] <guiverc> booting daily in hp8200  (black grub like first screen so uefi maybe) has it validate also
[02:30] <guiverc> lub 20.04 daily checked media for issues too on thinkpad sl510 (bios).  Xubuntu 20.04 daily on hp8200 took a long time to boot, but I didn't notice any check-disk-defects messages/indications
[02:39] <guiverc> no evidence of media validation on hp dc7700 for xubuntu daily; I've started kubu download
[02:41] <kc2bez> I just did kubuntu
[02:41] <kc2bez> I got the check disk
[02:41] <guiverc> :)   thanks, I cancelled zsync
[02:42] <guiverc> want me to do ubu_64?  (not flavor)
[02:42] <kc2bez> It probably wouldn't be a bad thing.
[03:43] <guiverc> ubu 20.04 daily on (hp) dc7700 slow booting (subjective but xub seemed slower to me than i expected) but nothing on screen to indicate validation of media
[04:43] <guiverc> i also booted ubu 20.04 daily on hp 8200 & no obvious checks, wrote the ISO to bad media; it failed check (expected) but boots without issue so ubu 20.04 isn't validating
[05:48] <wxl> thanks guiverc 
[05:48] <wxl> @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation our images are now doing (but apparently not mate or xubuntu)
[05:51] <guiverc> wxl, i can write xub to bad media (actually a new verbatim thumb-drive) if helpful to re-test that .. whilst xub seemed slow to boot, it's subjective as I don't time boots
 @wxl [<wxl> @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation o …], I'm seeing that on Ubuntu MATE's brand new ISO
[05:51] <wxl> ah ok
[05:52] <wxl> guiverc: i guess you could hexedit the iso and get the same effect in a vm
 wxl did you get any kind of answer to that question about the check on irc?
[05:56] <wxl> @franksmcb none. i accidentially posted at -devel and then moved it over to -release too so many eyes have been on it
 I'm debating filing a bug as well
[05:59] <wxl> i wonder if the grub configuration has changed somehow
 I submitted a bug #1864959 screenshot included.
[06:13] <wxl> no # if you want ubot to parse it
[06:14] <wxl> bug 1864959
[06:14] <wxl> it's not ubiquity tho cuz it affects us
[06:14] <wxl> i'd hit up grub2
 Ahhh...casper?
[06:14] <wxl> hmmmm
[06:14] <wxl> maybe
 Added casper and grub2. Someone smarter will either slap my hand or route them properly, or both
 Thanks wxl
[06:18] <wxl> good methodology
[06:18] <wxl> the more inflammatory the better XD
[06:23] <wxl> /cdrom/boot/grub/grub.cfg seems to have the expected line for lubuntu
[06:26] <guiverc> wxl, my earlier comments were on booting live, I didn't do installs
[06:26] <wxl> right
 This is what I get for saying i'll just do some installs before bed
[06:32] <wxl> yeah i'm kind of over trying to figure it out right now sheesh
 understandable
 :)
[06:32] <guiverc> I've started a xub 20.04 install; I haven't noticed any media check  (copying files now)
 @wxl [<wxl> @RikMills you know anything about this check disc for defects validation o …], nope
 new feature then. sounds a good idea.
 Yeah, I think it is great. It caught me a bit off guard but I like the idea.
 Should stop a lot of ubiquity/installer bugs, that just end up marked invalid as media is corrupt!
[16:16] <wxl> wth colord-kde depends on gnome-color-manager. i'm confused.
[16:19] <wxl> yeah wow it is new in casper https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+changelog
 I felt bad when I saw that it was a new added feature :)
[16:25]  * wxl shrugs
[16:25] <wxl> "check disc for defects" is still there
[16:26] <wxl> which kind of seems like a bug
[16:27] <wxl> also a bug: it's using md5 https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/casper-md5check/casper-md5check.c?h=ubuntu/focal
[16:27] <wxl> (i'd suggest sha256)
[16:37] <wxl> TIL snap update frequency is 4x daily https://ubuntu.com/blog/experimental-feature-snap-refresh-awareness-and-update-inhibition
[16:44] <wxl> @fransmcb do you have a copy of the 20200227 mate iso available? could you boot to the check and try to use "s" to escape out?
 wxl give me a moment and i'll do that
 It does not escape out once it starts the check
[17:00] <wxl> so neither s nor S does it?
 Nope
[17:01] <wxl> could you boot in and verify the version of casper?
 1.440
[17:04] <wxl> aw heck you don't have the latest version
[17:05] <wxl> there's where the skip came in
[17:05] <wxl> so when lubuntu gets their new image i'll be able to check it out
 Copy that
[17:06] <wxl> 1.441 is the one with the skip
[17:06] <wxl> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/casper-md5check/casper-md5check.c?h=ubuntu/focal#n221 fwiw
 @lynorian will want to know that ^ for the docs.
[18:01] <wxl> there should be little reason for anyone to want to skip it
[18:01] <wxl> s/anyone/the average person/
 I was thinking the fact that it does the check by default should be documented more than the "skip feature".
[18:04] <wxl> oh yes
[18:04] <wxl> to replace the thing that suggests people run it XD
 Yeah, absolutely.
[18:31] <wxl> confirmed the skip works
[18:31] <wxl> and there's a message about it, too
 How does this affect me With check disk for defects is casper now autochecking media?
[18:48] <wxl> it's autochecking
 cool
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[22:41] <wxl> @kc2bez: new cala. get on it :)
[22:41] <kc2bez> 👍
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[23:15] <kc2bez> ^ It's building now. Grab it when you can. :D
[23:15] <wxl> i know!