[04:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !info stacer
[06:05] <feoh> Yay the Firefox bluetooth sound bug in 20.04 was fixed and I never got around to reporting it :)
[15:31] <puxavida> I installed 20.04 and did the updates and that worked fine.  Today ran updates (sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade) and it got stuck on Setting up snapd (2.44....)
[15:32] <puxavida> Rebooted and tried the update again and it said to run dpkg --configure -a - did that, stuck in the same place.
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> puxavida: can you pastebin plz?
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !info snapd
[15:37] <puxavida> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WFjVJFqZ87/
[15:38] <puxavida> snapd came with 20.04.  I didn't do any extra to install it.
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> puxavida: can you install stacer, and check your snapd services running?
[15:41] <puxavida> yeah.  I'll need to kill the current dpkg --configure....
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> puxavida: sudo dpkg -r snapd gnome-software-plugin-snap
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> then sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> and install snapd back
[15:49] <puxavida> can't do dpkg -r snapd  - dependency problems prevent removal
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> puxavida: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[15:49] <puxavida> can't install stacer - it won't install with the previous update unfinished
[15:50] <puxavida> no - just have kubuntu-desktop installed after installing initial 20.10 daily (which is gnome desktop)
[15:51] <puxavida> I could reinstall with today's daily and see what happens.  This is a test box
[15:53] <puxavida> 20.04, that is....
[16:19] <jonf> hello, I've been testing out the dev version of 20.04, I've noticed occassional UI freezes (requires hard restart). I'd like to troubleshoot this further and see if I can find the problem/submit a bug if relevant. Where should I start looking for logs regarding freezing UI? 
[16:45] <puxavida> Just install 20.04 again and checked and installed some 300+ updates.  No issues this time...
[17:08] <mateuszm> Hi guys, yesterday I ran "apt-get update" and it installed 3 packages that were already installed as snaps: gnome-calculator, gnome-characters, gnome-logs. I assume that they were added as dependencies to some metapackage. But now I have those three applications in both deb and snap version. Am I supposed to uninstall the snap version manually? I'm
[17:08] <mateuszm> confused
[17:12] <mateuszm> Reciprocally, it also marked ubuntu-software as autoremovable, and I removed it, which didn't actually remove the Software Center, as ubuntu-software is just a metapackage for gnome-software. Am I supposed to remove the deb version of the Software Center and install the snap version myself?
[17:16] <mateuszm> I used to believe that regularly running "apt-get update" on the pre-release version would ensure I end up with the same system as a fresh install of Focal Fossa when it is released in April, but now I'm not sure, what with snap situation
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !final | mateuszm 
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> i updated 207mb fine today, no snap issues here
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> software center does show as removable, lets do that
[18:16] <mateuszm> lotuspsychje thanks! You don't have two calculators, two log viewers, and two characters apps in the Applications list? I've got two of each, the deb and the snap...
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> things gonna change mateuszm see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/2020-February/010667.html
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> gonna reboot first holdon
[18:21] <dax> yeah, there's some discussion of that focal-changes link at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/is-ubuntu-software-going-to-be-remove-for-snap-snap-store/14542/9
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> mateuszm: seems like i also have 2 gnome calculators in the snap list here
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> tnx dax, reading
[18:22] <dax> if there's an issue with it leaving the snap version of -calculator, -characters, and -logs installed and then also pulling in the apt versions, might wanna ask about it there
[18:23] <dax> (i know very little about snap stuff, unfortunately)
[18:24] <mateuszm> lotuspsychje I have one gnome-calculator in the output of the "snap list" command and another in the output of "apt-cache policy gnome-calculator"
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> mateuszm: yeah i also got an orange and a yellow gnome-calculator now
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> maybe later updates might remove things
[18:53] <mateuszm> OK, glad I'm not the only one. Yes, wait and see I guess. Otherwise I'll post in the forum dax mentioned
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> mateuszm: seems like the plan will be the snapstore instead of gnome software
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> and install debs from there too
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> mateuszm: on systemsettings/search i got the yellow calculator, guess thats what they gonna keep?
[19:31] <mateuszm> I suppose so, yeah. The orange one was the only one I had before yesterday's update, so it must be the snap one
[22:30] <puxavida> Just ran updates and it didn't choke on any snapd stuff.....
[22:35] <mateuszm> How many calculator apps do you have now puxavida?