[04:15] good morning [04:38] !info stacer [04:39] stacer (source: stacer): Linux system optimizer and monitoring. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3 (focal), package size 706 kB, installed size 1706 kB [06:05] Yay the Firefox bluetooth sound bug in 20.04 was fixed and I never got around to reporting it :) === wgrant is now known as wgrant_ === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === Ussat-1 is now known as Ussat [15:31] I installed 20.04 and did the updates and that worked fine. Today ran updates (sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade) and it got stuck on Setting up snapd (2.44....) [15:32] Rebooted and tried the update again and it said to run dpkg --configure -a - did that, stuck in the same place. [15:32] puxavida: can you pastebin plz? [15:34] !info snapd [15:34] snapd (source: snapd): Daemon and tooling that enable snap packages. In component main, is optional. Version 2.44~pre1+20.04 (focal), package size 22461 kB, installed size 101360 kB [15:37] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WFjVJFqZ87/ [15:38] snapd came with 20.04. I didn't do any extra to install it. [15:39] puxavida: can you install stacer, and check your snapd services running? [15:41] yeah. I'll need to kill the current dpkg --configure.... [15:43] puxavida: sudo dpkg -r snapd gnome-software-plugin-snap [15:43] then sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [15:44] and install snapd back [15:49] can't do dpkg -r snapd - dependency problems prevent removal [15:49] puxavida: did you add external ppa's to your system? [15:49] can't install stacer - it won't install with the previous update unfinished [15:50] no - just have kubuntu-desktop installed after installing initial 20.10 daily (which is gnome desktop) [15:51] I could reinstall with today's daily and see what happens. This is a test box [15:53] 20.04, that is.... [16:19] hello, I've been testing out the dev version of 20.04, I've noticed occassional UI freezes (requires hard restart). I'd like to troubleshoot this further and see if I can find the problem/submit a bug if relevant. Where should I start looking for logs regarding freezing UI? [16:45] Just install 20.04 again and checked and installed some 300+ updates. No issues this time... [17:08] Hi guys, yesterday I ran "apt-get update" and it installed 3 packages that were already installed as snaps: gnome-calculator, gnome-characters, gnome-logs. I assume that they were added as dependencies to some metapackage. But now I have those three applications in both deb and snap version. Am I supposed to uninstall the snap version manually? I'm [17:08] confused [17:12] Reciprocally, it also marked ubuntu-software as autoremovable, and I removed it, which didn't actually remove the Software Center, as ubuntu-software is just a metapackage for gnome-software. Am I supposed to remove the deb version of the Software Center and install the snap version myself? [17:16] I used to believe that regularly running "apt-get update" on the pre-release version would ensure I end up with the same system as a fresh install of Focal Fossa when it is released in April, but now I'm not sure, what with snap situation [18:10] !final | mateuszm [18:10] mateuszm: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Focal and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 20.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. [18:10] i updated 207mb fine today, no snap issues here [18:15] software center does show as removable, lets do that [18:16] lotuspsychje thanks! You don't have two calculators, two log viewers, and two characters apps in the Applications list? I've got two of each, the deb and the snap... [18:17] things gonna change mateuszm see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/2020-February/010667.html [18:17] gonna reboot first holdon [18:21] yeah, there's some discussion of that focal-changes link at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/is-ubuntu-software-going-to-be-remove-for-snap-snap-store/14542/9 [18:22] mateuszm: seems like i also have 2 gnome calculators in the snap list here [18:22] tnx dax, reading [18:22] if there's an issue with it leaving the snap version of -calculator, -characters, and -logs installed and then also pulling in the apt versions, might wanna ask about it there [18:23] (i know very little about snap stuff, unfortunately) [18:24] lotuspsychje I have one gnome-calculator in the output of the "snap list" command and another in the output of "apt-cache policy gnome-calculator" [18:51] mateuszm: yeah i also got an orange and a yellow gnome-calculator now [18:52] maybe later updates might remove things [18:53] OK, glad I'm not the only one. Yes, wait and see I guess. Otherwise I'll post in the forum dax mentioned [19:03] mateuszm: seems like the plan will be the snapstore instead of gnome software [19:03] and install debs from there too [19:29] mateuszm: on systemsettings/search i got the yellow calculator, guess thats what they gonna keep? [19:31] I suppose so, yeah. The orange one was the only one I had before yesterday's update, so it must be the snap one === hggdh is now known as hggdh-msft [22:30] Just ran updates and it didn't choke on any snapd stuff..... [22:35] How many calculator apps do you have now puxavida?