| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 06:36 |
|---|---|---|
| ricotz | hey oSoMoN | 06:48 |
| oSoMoN | hey ricotz, how are you? | 06:48 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, very well, thanks, you? | 06:49 |
| ricotz | nice seeing ff73 built for xenial :) | 06:49 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, yeah, I'm good, and relieved that the xenial build is out, too :) | 07:00 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:17 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 07:17 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:19 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:26 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:26 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, jibel, seb128 | 07:34 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 07:42 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, oSoMoN, comment ça va aujourd'hui ? | 08:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va, je me bats avec les builders et l’infra pour que tout passe dans la release pocket :p | 08:34 |
| didrocks | et toi ? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ça va, un peu la bourre aussi :) je veux pas flinger la transition icu mais j'ai des trucs à uploader... | 08:35 |
| didrocks | ouais, j’ai vu ça… | 08:35 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktopper | 08:36 |
| marcustomlinson | whoops. morning desktoppers | 08:36 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, how are you? | 08:37 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: I'm doing alright thanks, you? | 08:37 |
| seb128 | I'm good, thanks! | 08:37 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson! | 08:38 |
| marcustomlinson | hey didrocks, how things? | 08:39 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: good! Sounds like we are just on time for FF! :) | 08:40 |
| didrocks | in* | 08:40 |
| marcustomlinson | oh wow | 08:40 |
| Laney | moin | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hoi Laney | 09:02 |
| seb128 | wie gehts? | 09:03 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Laney | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Morning desktopers o/ | 09:05 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Wimpress | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Hi marcustomlinson | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | seb128: o/ | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey seb128 marcustomlinson Wimpress | 09:05 |
| Laney | yeah doing alright | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Yo | 09:06 |
| Wimpress | seb128 Laney Brad contacted me about exfat. | 09:07 |
| Wimpress | He filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1862028 | 09:07 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1862028 in linux (Ubuntu) "Focal uses the exfat fuse filesystem even though there is support in the kernel" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:07 |
| Wimpress | What are your thoughts on that one? | 09:07 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, Wimpress | 09:07 |
| Wimpress | Morning didrocks | 09:08 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, it's tagged champagne, we will get to it in the next meeting? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | but still I'm curious now so having a look | 09:09 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: so LO arm64 autopkgtests look to be passing now. cool | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, I commented on the bug, I guess he installed exfat-fuse that we don't install by default. We should probably deprecate/remove that one on update if that's what creates the issue, let's see what Brad replies | 09:13 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: hey, I feel pretty confident with that upgrader MR now, got to all your comments, again thanks for that! | 09:14 |
| Laney | ok cool, will look again soon | 09:14 |
| Laney | if you could add comments for how to test it that'd help | 09:14 |
| marcustomlinson | ok | 09:15 |
| jibel | seb128, hi, has there been any conclusion on this thread ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-November/040844.html | 09:20 |
| jibel | it landed in today's build | 09:21 |
| seb128 | ?! | 09:21 |
| seb128 | jibel, no, basically people seem to mostly agree on principle | 09:21 |
| seb128 | but that's one of the item we didn't manage to even start looking at and no other team stated they would work on it | 09:21 |
| seb128 | what landed exactly? | 09:22 |
| jibel | a new casper that enable media integrity check by default | 09:22 |
| jibel | it can be skipped with 'S' | 09:22 |
| jibel | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/1.441 | 09:23 |
| seb128 | I'm not going to complain, I was just not expecting it | 09:23 |
| jibel | and previous upload | 09:23 |
| seb128 | did you test it? does it feel alright as an user experience? | 09:23 |
| jibel | yes | 09:23 |
| jibel | yes twice :) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | :) | 09:24 |
| jibel | some users are surprised an report bugs, I'll just close them and point the to the discussion | 09:24 |
| jibel | and* | 09:24 |
| Wimpress | seb128: Thanks for checking on that. | 09:24 |
| seb128 | jibel, thanks! | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, np | 09:25 |
| Wimpress | That buig actually affect Ubuntu MATE and Kylin. I'll follow up. | 09:26 |
| Laney | Wonder if xnox said anywhere that this was being implemented | 09:27 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, exfat-fuse? | 09:27 |
| Wimpress | Yes. | 09:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, I didn't read anything about it | 09:27 |
| Wimpress | Seeded in Ubuntu MATE. | 09:27 |
| seb128 | :p | 09:28 |
| Wimpress | And Kylin. | 09:28 |
| seb128 | it's probably a good idea to drop it then yes :) | 09:28 |
| Wimpress | Indeed. | 09:28 |
| jibel | Laney, he didn't | 09:37 |
| jibel | xnox, I think the type of the partition of the ESP in BIOS mode is wrong, it should be 'ef' not 'b' | 09:43 |
| seb128 | (and back now) | 10:18 |
| xnox | seb128: integrity check improvements are as per email thread and ongoing installer boot options review with mpt. This implementation is not final, but is a massive improvement. Still need to get UX rereviewed with mpt as it simply addressed a long lost of complaints about it from mpt. I.e. I am not sure if I should store the result of the check somewhere, to surface a warning in the installer with | 11:04 |
| xnox | translations once we boot fully. | 11:04 |
| xnox | jibel: can you please comment on that partman-auto / ubiquity bug report about type of partition? I will not have time to look at that right now, but don't want to loose this information. | 11:05 |
| seb128 | xnox, thx for working on it in any case ... I didn't test yet, but we still start the installer if the check failed? | 11:07 |
| xnox | seb128: at the moment yes, with a warning printed and a longer delay. | 11:08 |
| seb128 | k | 11:08 |
| ricotz | marcustomlinson, hi, would you dare to run autopkgtests on https://launchpad.net/%7Elibreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=focal | 11:56 |
| marcustomlinson | ricotz: maybe not today, I suspect the builders are gonna be busy with ff stuff | 12:02 |
| ricotz | marcustomlinson, alright | 12:02 |
| ricotz | marcustomlinson, please don't push no-change rebuild of libreoffice for poppler | 12:02 |
| ricotz | uploading 6.4.1 is way more efficient given its buildtime | 12:03 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, hi, ^ | 12:05 |
| GunnarHj | Hey seb128! | 12:06 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Aware of any plans for xkeyboard-config? Upstream has recently released 2.29, but Debian is still on 2.26 (quiet there the last year). Should we by-pass Debian and upgrade? | 12:06 |
| tjaalton | GunnarHj: I can update it there | 12:16 |
| tjaalton | so far pkg-xorg has been just me the past year.. | 12:16 |
| tjaalton | more or less | 12:16 |
| GunnarHj | tjaalton: Excellent! Then I await your update before preparing a merge in Ubuntu. | 12:17 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey GunnarHj, sounds like you got a reply :) | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | what's the diff like? | 12:18 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, do you want to maybe look at the new ibus? | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | GunnarHj: since we don't support d-i anymore, I don't think the split of xkb-data-i18n is needed anymore | 12:19 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, should gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/exp be synced to focal? | 12:19 |
| Laney | put it in the silo ? | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | GunnarHj: and we don't cache xkb data anymore, so I guess it could be synced then, assuming all the others are upstream by now | 12:20 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yeah, xkeyboard-config is under control then. Which new ibus are you talking about? slangasek recently updated it. | 12:20 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, 1.5.22 | 12:20 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ibus/news/20200226T120812Z.html | 12:21 |
| Laney | Feb 27 12:15:39 focal-vm gnome-shell[876]: JS ERROR: Error: Type name Gjs_WindowClone is already registered | 12:21 |
| Laney | /o\ | 12:21 |
| seb128 | Trevviiinnhhoooo | 12:22 |
| GunnarHj | tjaalton: Ok, syncing is more convenient, of course. I'll take a look and see if there is anything I believe we still need. | 12:22 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thx | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | yep | 12:22 |
| Laney | fixed with upgrading libgjs0g, it's a not strict enough dependency | 12:23 |
| seb128 | ah, good | 12:25 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Will look at ibus 1.5.22. I think the most important stuff is already in via patches. Possibly we should wait until they move it to unstable? | 12:25 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, the version we currently have is also only in experimental, unsure why they don't move to unstable | 12:26 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ibus.html shows they had the previous version upload to experimental as well so I guess it has more to do with packaging change than with the new version | 12:27 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, anyway I just wanted to know if you could look at/evaluate if we should get the new version, "no" is a valid answer :) | 12:27 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I looked at it as late as last night, and concluded that it's probably no hurry due to Steve's upload. But sure, I can prepare an upload based on the experimental variant if you like. | 12:29 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, no, I was just wondering if the .22 update from upstream had fixes we maybe should consider | 12:32 |
| seb128 | seems not from you say so all good :) | 12:32 |
| GunnarHj | tjaalton: If we don't need xkb-data-i18n any longer, I think we are ready to start syncing. There is a postinst script too, which removes /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm files, but I can't recall that I have seen such files there for many cycles. | 12:43 |
| tjaalton | GunnarHj: that's the xkb cache, we dropped the xserver patch some time ago because it caused issues bigger than the tiny speedup it gave | 12:44 |
| tjaalton | so yeah, should be syncable then | 12:45 |
| GunnarHj | tjaalton: Great! | 12:45 |
| Laney | seb128: Trevinho: I copied apppindicator to the silo | 12:56 |
| seb128 | Laney, ack | 12:56 |
| Laney | https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/aaaa.png | 12:59 |
| Laney | this could be better | 12:59 |
| Laney | wait | 12:59 |
| Laney | NM! | 13:00 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: think we could wangle a ubuntu-release-upgrader release in time for ff? | 14:18 |
| Laney | probably, don't worry I know what the deadlines are :-) | 15:14 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, any chance you could look at kylin-greeter not building with the current vala? we need to rebuild if with the new gnome-desktop... | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 'greeter-list.vala:185.5-185.22: error: Creation method of abstract class cannot be public. | 15:42 |
| seb128 | public GreeterList (Background bg)' | 15:42 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | good morning hellsworth | 15:47 |
| hellsworth | hi kenvandine | 15:48 |
| oSoMoN | morning hellsworth | 15:51 |
| hellsworth | hi thre oSoMoN | 15:51 |
| hellsworth | it is so nice to see libreoffice all Pass across update_excuses :) | 16:03 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Laney, I have a question about my gscan2pdf-blocks-everything Merge Request, https://code.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/britney/hints-ubuntu/+merge/379911 Is it assigned correctly to "Ubuntu Package Archive Administrators"? Or have I to move it to "ubuntu-release" or so? | 16:08 |
| Laney | indeed, ubuntu-release is the team for that | 16:09 |
| Laney | sigh | 16:10 |
| Laney | someone retried that with all-proposed while there was an uninstallable kernel | 16:10 |
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| Laney | hey it's FF FF today | 16:19 |
| Laney | something which happens only every 13 years | 16:19 |
| hellsworth | :D | 16:19 |
| marcustomlinson | what a time to be alive! | 16:20 |
| tkamppeter | Laney: FFFFF (Feature Freeze For Focal Fossa). | 16:20 |
| hellsworth | 11111111111111111111 | 16:20 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, but in some weeks it will happen again: Final Freeze For Focal Fossa | 16:21 |
| Laney | actually I guess Final Freeze :( | 16:21 |
| Laney | ok fine it's Fe Fr Fo Fa | 16:21 |
| Laney | ok fine it's Fe Fr Fo Fo | 16:21 |
| Laney | and then it'll be Fi Fr Fo Fo | 16:21 |
| hellsworth | i smell an englishman? | 16:22 |
| marcustomlinson | Fe Fi Fo Fum | 16:22 |
| marcustomlinson | haha | 16:22 |
| hellsworth | haha | 16:22 |
| * hellsworth highfives marcustomlinson | 16:22 | |
| Laney | no flies on you guys | 16:22 |
| Wimpress | I smell the imminent release of a Focal Fossa? | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | hellsworth, 111...? | 16:22 |
| hellsworth | binary of FFFFF | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | hellsworth, thanks. | 16:23 |
| tkamppeter | Someone of you speaks German: WWWWWWWWW. | 16:23 |
| tkamppeter | Wenn wir Wiener Wien wienern, wienern wir Wiener Wien. | 16:24 |
| tkamppeter | Means: If we from Vienna clean Vienna, we from Vienna are cleaning Vienna. | 16:25 |
| Laney | :D | 16:26 |
| Laney | I liked Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo | 16:26 |
| Laney | it's a bit US english for me but I can get it if I think hard ;-) | 16:26 |
| marcustomlinson | my brain... | 16:27 |
| marcustomlinson | Reminds me of that Chinese poem | 16:27 |
| marcustomlinson | The Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den | 16:28 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, switched to release-team, let us hope to get rid of gscan2pdf DoS attacks from Debian. | 16:33 |
| Laney | Not sure if we should use all | 16:34 |
| Laney | I've added hints for the current version | 16:34 |
| tkamppeter | Laney. I suggested "all" because otherwise we have to fix it whenever some Debian guy uploads a new version. And according what I see on the sane-devel mailing list gscan2pdf upstream is released frequently. | 16:36 |
| Laney | Then the test should be turned off in the package I think | 16:36 |
| Laney | Otherwise we're running it unnecessarily | 16:36 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, so the "force-badtest" means that the test is run but the result is ignored? For what does one need this? | 16:39 |
| Laney | I don't really want to get into an extended debate about test semantics right now, sorry Till | 16:40 |
| Laney | Trying to review marcustomlinson's branch | 16:40 |
| Laney | We can talk about it in person if you really want nto | 16:40 |
| Laney | marcustomlinson: can you do a bit o'squashing while I test this please? | 16:43 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: sqaushing? | 16:45 |
| Laney | ah | 16:45 |
| Laney | rebase your branch and merge the commits into logical units | 16:46 |
| Laney | but if you have to learn how to rebase ... maybe don't bother :p | 16:46 |
| Laney | I am totally going to mess up releasing this | 16:50 |
| marcustomlinson | gotta see the doc now, back later | 16:59 |
| Laney | laters | 16:59 |
| marcustomlinson | ok nvm, still waiting. and now I remember this is git not bzr | 17:03 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: is it not possible to squash merge? | 17:04 |
| marcustomlinson | would you like me to squash everything into a sinlge commit on my branch? | 17:05 |
| Laney | Kind of, I can add a merge commit instead of N separate ones, that's pretty similar to bzr merges | 17:05 |
| Laney | do you think one commit makes sense? if so, then that'd be nice | 17:05 |
| Laney | then you can describe the idea in the message which would be sweet | 17:06 |
| Laney | so you can do git rebase -i origin/ubuntu/master, change all the 'pick' except the first one to 'fixup' and the first one to 'reword', and then write a nice message in the editor you get | 17:08 |
| Laney | should do it | 17:08 |
| Laney | ah yay, I got the pre-build.sh script to finish | 17:11 |
| marcustomlinson | sorry battling poor connection | 17:17 |
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| marcustomlinson | Laney: that ok? | 17:30 |
| Laney | marcustomlinson: I think you've downplayed your own work there :P | 17:31 |
| Laney | it makes it look like you just added a .json file | 17:31 |
| Laney | but if you're happy with it that's fine by me | 17:31 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: yeah I'm ok with it haha | 17:31 |
| Laney | so nice having a local mirror | 17:32 |
| Laney | took about 1 minute to download the whole dist-upgrade | 17:32 |
| ricotz | seb128, I can take a look at kylin-greeter | 17:39 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thanks! | 17:46 |
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| Laney | OOH YEAH look at those deleted snaps | 17:52 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 18:01 |
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| Laney | DONE | 18:03 |
| Laney | I didn't get gnome-shell and friends uploaded | 18:03 |
| Laney | Marco told me he had to fix something in ubuntu-dock, and then disappeared | 18:04 |
| Laney | so it's going to have to be tomorrow I'm afraid (or someone else can work with Trevinho tonight) | 18:04 |
| marcustomlinson | \o/ | 18:04 |
| marcustomlinson | (I mean for my thing, not Trevinho's) | 18:05 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: not sure if I can help with the upload? | 18:07 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: do you know how the tarball ends up here: https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-development | 18:19 |
| marcustomlinson | sorry I think I asked this before and missed the response | 18:19 |
| * marcustomlinson looks for it | 18:19 | |
| marcustomlinson | ok done at the hospital, home time -> afk | 18:23 |
| marcustomlinson | Ah ffs nvm again... | 18:34 |
| marcustomlinson | We have to wait around for an hour for blood results. I thought we’d just get them in the post | 18:34 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, how did you solve the gscan2pdf problem? | 18:35 |
| tjaalton | GunnarHj: xkeyboard-config is now in sid | 18:38 |
| tjaalton | the update | 18:38 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, and thanks for the fix. | 18:39 |
| GunnarHj | tjaalton: Nice! Please note that don't have upload rights for that package in Ubuntu either, so can you please sync it once it's possible to do that? | 18:41 |
| tjaalton | sure | 18:42 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks! | 18:42 |
| ricotz | seb128, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/sponsoring/0001-Constructors-of-abstract-class-must-not-be-public.patch | 18:45 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: ouch, I had a crash of the usb subsystem and I didn't reopen the chats on restart... -_- | 18:50 |
| Trevinho | well stuff was ready to upload though | 18:51 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thanks, I've uploaded that now! | 18:51 |
| ricotz | seb128, this looks weird ;) https://launchpadlibrarian.net/466870355/kylin-greeter_19.04.1build2_19.04.1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 18:53 |
| seb128 | ricotz, shrug! | 18:53 |
| ricotz | this is a native package | 18:53 |
| seb128 | stupid debian packaging systems :p | 18:53 |
| seb128 | yes, indeed ... | 18:53 |
| seb128 | ricotz, reuploaded with the packaging noise undone, thanks for noticing/pointing it out | 18:56 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, you need to fix your IRC notifications somehow :) | 18:57 |
| Trevinho | seb128: no, I need to remember to open any chat system once I reboot xD | 19:01 |
| Trevinho | seb128: anyway the silo is fine for being published as it is if you want, although Laney told that he can do it tomorrow too, so as you guys prefer | 19:02 |
| Trevinho | I wanted to upload a change on dash-to-dock but looks like the fix needed is a bit more complex, so I can wait for later | 19:02 |
| Trevinho | in the mean time, I've troubles with my usb keyboard it seems -_- | 19:02 |
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