[00:36] <Noboru55> hello
[00:37] <Noboru55> in lubuntu 19.10 how can i enable that option "open with" volume mounter...  when click right click mouse in any iso files ?
[00:41] <Noboru55> or.. image mounter... i need something like gnome-disk-utility for qt
[18:55] <Noboru55> hello everybody
[18:56] <wxl> o/
[18:56] <Noboru55> running 19.10, now it's the way i like
[18:57] <Noboru55> i did some change and it's ok now!  i could just.... when i plug something usb mount an icon on my desktop
[18:57] <Noboru55> but it is not important ...
[19:13] <Noboru55> wxl running 19.10 because your suggest, here how it is.. https://imgur.com/a/htj5YYi
[22:38] <Noboru55> hello
[22:39] <Noboru55> here lubuntu 19.10 i have many places in english but i installed in other language
[22:39] <Noboru55> does it happen to other languages too? for example, if someone install the lubuntu 19.10 in spanish will see some itens in english too
[22:40] <wxl> which language?
[22:40] <Noboru55> i runs it in portuguese
[22:41] <wxl> pt_BR or pt_PT?
[22:42] <Noboru55> br
[22:42] <Noboru55> i can show u
[22:42] <wxl> naw i get it
[22:42] <wxl> now are these lxqt components?
[22:43] <Noboru55> firefox, gimp
[22:43] <Noboru55> and the menu preferences
[22:43] <wxl> because lxqt is pretty well translated https://weblate.lxqt.org/languages/pt_BR/lxqt/
[22:43] <Noboru55> mmm
[22:44] <wxl> !info firefox-locale-pt
[22:44] <wxl> ^ that will fix firefox
[22:44] <wxl> (should, i mean)
[22:44] <wxl> !info gimp-help-pt
[22:45] <Noboru55> in configuration center for example
[22:45] <wxl> ^ that *may* fix gimp. you can complain to the gimp folks about it if not
[22:45] <Noboru55> there is keyboard and mouse ... but it's translated like  keyboard and rato
[22:45] <Noboru55> rato is mouse in portugese Pt
[22:45] <Noboru55> not br
[22:45] <Noboru55> the things are mixed
[22:46] <Noboru55> dadmmed my scrot is not working
[22:46] <wxl> so there are two explanations for problems with lxqt components:
[22:46] <wxl>  1. there are new translations shown on weblate that are not yet packaged
[22:46] <wxl>  2. the translations are actually incorrect
[22:46] <Noboru55> yes..
[22:46] <wxl> if i were you (and it can't be me because i don't knwo ANYTHING about your language), i would go on weblate and check all the translations and fix any that are wrong
[22:47] <Noboru55> how can i do it?
[22:47] <wxl> if they are all correct, then come bug me and i'll work on getting the new translations packaged
[22:47] <wxl> i am not multilingual at all so i can't really help
[22:47] <wxl> but you should be able to register an account on their weblate instance
[22:48] <Noboru55> just a minute i wanna show u
[22:48] <wxl> this may be helpful https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-3.10.3/user/translating.html
[22:48] <Noboru55> but print screen is not working.. how can i use terminal command to scrot print in seconds
[22:48] <wxl> you can also join #lxqt on oftc
[22:49] <wxl>  -d, --delay NUM
[22:49] <wxl>               Wait NUM seconds before taking a shot.
[22:49] <wxl> ^ from `man scrot` *hint hint*
[22:50] <Noboru55> lol... the printscreen is working
[22:50] <Noboru55> but... if i open the menu to show the things, the printscreen does not work
[22:50] <Noboru55> hope you understand me
[22:50] <wxl> i think so
[22:51] <wxl> you can edit the command that print screen runs so that it always has a delay and that would be quite helpful
[22:52] <Noboru55> good idea
[22:54] <Noboru55> wxl here
[22:55] <Noboru55> wxl https://imgur.com/a/nI0K43c
[22:55] <wxl> i rarely am not XD
[22:55] <Noboru55> lol
[22:55] <Noboru55> the menu, preferences, so there is english things there
[22:55] <wxl> i see what you mean
[22:55] <Noboru55> in background there is the "centro de configuração" but the border name is Configuration Center
[22:56] <wxl> so anything under "lxqt settings" (which is not translated, i might add!!!) is the fault of lxqt and what i told you above applies
[22:56] <Noboru55> and inside configuration center, there is  Teclado e Rato  (its portuguese PT)
[22:56] <Noboru55> in br would be  Teclado e Mouse
[22:56] <wxl> the other things we'd need to deal with individually
[22:56] <Noboru55> we never translate mouse, mouse is mouse... for computer,, and rato is mouse for animal
[22:57] <wxl> and honestly i'm surprised some of those things haven't been problematic in the past because additional drivers, fcitx, input method, printers, screensaver, and software sources, are all there in 18.04, too
[22:57] <wxl> so all of the files that define the menu with rare exception are in /usr/share/applications as desktop entries (they end in .desktop)
[22:58] <wxl> those desktop entries should have translation strings
[22:58] <Noboru55> i did not see anything in english in mine 18.04
[22:58] <Noboru55> at least i do not remember
[22:58] <wxl> have you rebooted since changing the local in 19.10?
[22:59] <Noboru55> many times
[22:59] <Noboru55> ...mm... the truth, i installed 4 times the lubuntu 19.10
[22:59] <Noboru55> in 2 days
[22:59] <Noboru55> because i was testing many things
[22:59] <wxl> example: system-config-printer.desktop has no translation strings
[23:01] <wxl> if you install apt-file, run `sudo apt-file-update` and do `apt-file search system-config-printer.desktop`, you'll find it's from the system-config-printer package so you could file a bug against that
[23:03] <wxl> just as an example
[23:06] <Noboru55> as you can see in my menu, there is a item called Locale.... what is Locale ? Oo  i openned and that and i saw the "Languages"
[23:06] <Noboru55> there is all pt br
[23:06] <Noboru55> so..
[23:07] <wxl> yeah that can probably be better translated but it relates to the `locale` command
[23:07] <wxl> i doubt anyone translates "change directory" (`cd`) XD
[23:07] <wxl> the world of computing is a harsh one for non-english speakers :(
[23:08] <Noboru55> lol
[23:08] <Noboru55> at least now you understood me
[23:08] <Noboru55> :D
[23:08] <Noboru55> if i could help with something ...
[23:08] <Noboru55> i would....
[23:08] <wxl> oh yeah, i've discovered this a couple times. i'm just a little ill equipped to help
[23:08] <wxl> what you *can* help with, like i said is with translations
[23:09] <Noboru55> right
[23:09] <wxl> go upstream at lxqt and if you can fix any translations there, please do!!!
[23:09] <Noboru55> alright
[23:09] <wxl> all your portugese brothers and sisters will be thankful :)
[23:09] <wxl> and i will, too, because i won't have to answer these questions again XD
[23:09] <wxl> we have started up a little team to help with making lubuntu more approachable to non-native english speakers
[23:10] <wxl> that might be a good team to join!
[23:10] <wxl> @Noumeno and @HMollerCl would be good contacts there
[23:10] <Noboru55> i think so
[23:10] <Noboru55> i am looking that weblate now
[23:23] <Noboru55> wxl oh! editing that printers with that apt-file  i can translate it !
[23:24] <Noboru55> i liked it, going to change all english here
[23:25] <dsc_> Recently I tried installing lubuntu from iso and noticed "the gui installer" does not have an option to apply full disk encryption
[23:25] <dsc_> So instead I installed stable Ubuntu and then installed lxqt
[23:25] <dsc_> Would you reckon my system still qualifies as lubuntu or is it ubuntu?
[23:26] <Noboru55> i am not a expert linux user, but i did the same some day
[23:26] <Noboru55> and i did not like because the ubuntu gives you some tools of the ubuntu like gnome-terminal
[23:26] <Noboru55> and some gtk apps like gnome-disks
[23:27] <Noboru55> so.. i would say its half half
[23:27] <dsc_> Noboru55: I usually replace terminal with "terminator"
[23:27] <Noboru55> ah, i meant the install of ubuntu minimal....
[23:28] <Noboru55> yes you can change the apps you use
[23:28] <dsc_> yes, thankfully :D
[23:28] <Noboru55> :)
[23:29] <kc2bez> dsc_: You should have the option to do full disk encryption. Which version were you installing?
[23:29] <dsc_> kc2bez: lubuntu 19.10
[23:30] <dsc_> Whats that graphical installer called you get when you boot into a live desktop?
[23:31] <dsc_> ah, here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/524009/lubuntu-19-04-calamares-installation-does-not-provide-full-disk-encryption
[23:31] <dsc_> this really sucks :(
[23:32] <kc2bez> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/1.3/installation.html#setting-up-partitions
[23:32] <kc2bez> That is our manual page^
[23:32] <kc2bez> I have done several encrypted installs.
[23:32] <dsc_> > If you want to encrypt your drive press the Encrypt system checkbox
[23:32] <dsc_> must have missed it.
[23:33] <kc2bez> It does a full disk luks encryption.
[23:33] <dsc_> ok, good to know
[23:35] <Noboru55> wxl https://imgur.com/a/R0Jkbfj
[23:35] <Noboru55> wxl look to my printers and drivers
[23:38] <wxl> dsc_: it's actually better encryption than ubuntu, too, because it really *IS* full disk encryption. ubuntu doesn't encrypt /boot
[23:39] <wxl> looking good Noboru55 :)
[23:39] <dsc_> I can do without /boot ......
[23:39] <dsc_> i never go there anyway!!
[23:39] <kc2bez> You still have /boot it is just encrypted
[23:40] <wxl> encryption in lubuntu: everything is encrypted
[23:40] <wxl> encryption in ubuntu: everything *except* /boot is encrypted
[23:40] <wxl> and /boot contains all your encryption keys, soooooo
[23:40] <dsc_> do you know why ubuntu went that route?
[23:40] <wxl> laziness :)
[23:41] <wxl> the alternative is kind of hard
[23:42] <dsc_> then they should not call it "full disk encryption", rather "partial disk encryption" :P
[23:42] <wxl> yup!
[23:43] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[23:43] <dsc_> > I'm (Tj) being deliberately pedantic in calling this almost Full Disk Encryption
[23:43] <dsc_> I see. Well, good to know
[23:44] <wxl> yup
[23:44] <kc2bez> That stackexchange post is wrong too. we had FDE for 19.04 too.
[23:45] <wxl> you might want to go update that, @kc2bez
[23:45]  * wxl *not it*
[23:45]  * kc2bez on my phone :P
[23:45] <dsc_> Maybe these people missed the checkbox, like me
[23:46] <dsc_> I could swear there no option...
[23:46] <kc2bez> It is possible.
[23:46] <Noboru55> sorry... i installed today my lubuntu and i saw the option to encrypt
[23:46] <kc2bez> You do need to use the erase option or it won't be presented.
[23:46] <wxl> as the person who configured calamares to do it and followed up on the bugs related to it, i can tell you most definitively it was there in 19.04 and i'm pretty sure 18.10 too
[23:46] <Noboru55> but i did not use encryption
[23:46] <dsc_> :D ok I believe
[23:48] <kc2bez> 18.10 was a little rough around the edges :P
[23:49] <Noboru55> wxl i am not finding some apps to edit.. for example Advance Network Configurantion
[23:49] <Noboru55> input method
[23:50] <Noboru55> software sources
[23:50] <kc2bez> Noboru55: those are Ubuntu apps.
[23:50] <Noboru55> ah
[23:50] <wxl> Noboru55: (a) those files might change on update, just word of warning (b) try doing this to find them e.g.: `grep "Advanced Network Configuration" /usr/share/applications/*`
[23:51] <Noboru55> i see
[23:51] <Noboru55> better do not change it i guess
[23:52] <Noboru55> grep "Advanced Network Configuration" /usr/share/applications/*/usr/share/applications/nm-connection-editor.desktop:Name=Advanced Network Configuration
[23:52] <Noboru55> kc2bez thank you
[23:53] <kc2bez> Anytime. Happy to help Noboru55