[10:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> im getting disformed authentication window recently on 20.04, anyone else noticed this? https://imgur.com/a/fc5jS0o
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> easy test from nautilus: ctrl +l admin:///
[14:44] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: popey mentioned something about that. I think it is fixed in proposed
[14:44] <popey> it is
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> ah thank you mcphail popey 
[16:26] <ali1234> libnewlib-dev appears to be busted
[16:29] <ali1234> just make a boilerplate test with "#include <string>" and standard main(), and it fails to compile because string header is not found. i have all the newlib packages installed
[16:29] <ali1234> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cfffFbd3dm/
[17:11] <TJ-> ali1234:  I'd suspect that's because the arm libs aren't installed
[17:11] <ali1234> which ones?
[17:12] <ali1234> binutils-arm-none-eabi libnewlib-arm-none-eabi libnewlib-dev libstdc++-arm-none-eabi-newlib are all dependencies of gcc-arm-none-eabi
[17:12] <ali1234> same as they always were
[17:13] <ali1234> i'm currently trying to fix apt on my 18.04 test system so that i can verify it works there
[17:13] <TJ-> not sure, it's obviously something to do with using cross-build tooling
[17:13] <ali1234> well yes
[17:13] <ali1234> it's a bare metal compiler
[17:15] <TJ-> ali1234: is the host arch the same as the compiler, ARM, or host is x86 based?
[17:17] <ali1234> the compiler is for Cortex M which cannot run linux
[17:17] <ali1234> therefore yes, the host and target are different
[17:18] <TJ-> ali1234: right; I'm exploring on a 20.04 amd64 system now to see if I can reproduce
[17:19] <ali1234> just apt install gcc-arm-none-eabi and then build the example C++ file
[17:19] <ali1234> it works on 18.04 and fails on 20.04
[17:21] <ali1234> have to use "-c" otherwise it complains about missing _exit but that is expected
[17:23] <ali1234> this looks like the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libstdc++-arm-none-eabi/+bug/1811296
[17:28] <TJ-> ali1234:  I don't see the newlib/libstdc++ files in the default gcc search path shown when doing "...-gcc -v"
[17:37] <TJ-> ali1234:  looks to be issue, then arm newlib installs 7.3.1 /usr/include/newlib/c++/7.3.1/string
[18:19] <Kangarooo> I cant install boot-repair on 20.04. How to add ppa? What to read to learn putting old version ppa? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python/+bug/1865529 
[19:26] <extor> Is there such a thing as a pre release version of the LTS that is due next month? I'd like to grab that rather than these daily builds.
[19:27] <extor> The next LTS is 20.10 right?
[19:33] <Kangarooo> @extor, lts is every 2 year. Here can help testing 20.04 with daily builds which i am on also. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1213811/how-to-download-release-candidates-featurefreeze-versions
[19:49] <extor> So every single day I need to expend bandwidth to patch each app? :O
[19:49] <TJ-> extor:   install the daily, then just keep it upgraded 
[19:49] <extor> I have bandwidth issues
[19:49] <TJ-> extor:  since we're in Feature Freeze only bug-fixes will come through between now and release day
[19:50] <extor> Does that mean very little bandwidth?
[19:50] <TJ-> extor: you can leave it a week between upgrades if you wish to
[19:50] <extor> Ok so I have an issue with lubuntu
[19:51] <extor> My laptop is on the ubuntu approved hardware list. It's a Dell Inspiron 3565 and I have problems with lubuntu not being able to suspend on this hardware. Is there support for lubuntu LTS as well or just regular ubuntu with gnome?
[20:31] <mason> extor: Did you exercise systemctl suspend already, and it doesn't work?
[20:32] <extor> No i only used the start menu
[20:33] <mason> extor: Try 'systemctl suspend' and that'll help verify if it's something related to the GUI or not
[20:34] <TJ-> extor: does it try to suspend and instantly resume, or time-out trying and then fail to try again at all?
[20:35] <extor> Ok suddenly it all works properly. I should try to duplicate the issue.
[20:36] <mason> extor: Did it work with systemctl suspend, did you not try that and it worked from the GUI, or...?
[20:36] <extor> It suddenly worked both ways
[20:36] <mason> Oh, interesting.
[20:37] <mason> extor: I can't think that 'systemctl suspend' would do anything to change state, but I'd probably test with a cold boot and trying from the GUI again, then trying from the GUI after systemctl suspend
[20:37] <mason> And by cold boot, actually power off for 30 seconds or a minute.
[20:37] <extor> There is however a persistant problem with the GUI. When I go to Desktop Preferences, Advanced and then check the box "Show menus provided by Window Managers when desktop is clicked" then it goes into a buggy dead end but that is the GUI
[20:38] <extor> It creates a drill downmenu on desktop right clicks, but when you click any of those it errors
[20:39] <extor> Failed to execute child process "lxsession.default" No such file or directory
[20:40] <extor> I'm guessing that is a lubuntu only issue...I have it on both my laptops