[00:25] <pragmaticenigma> is this GuestAgain a troll or just really out to lunch?
[00:25] <Fuseteam> i see
[00:25] <Fuseteam> oof
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> Fuseteam: the more you engage them... the worse it gets... please stop
[00:39] <Fuseteam> ah true sorry
[01:26] <leftyfb> can someone just boot these 2 idiots please? They just won't quit
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> asked in -ops... no response
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> one down...
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> *maybe*
[01:28] <leftyfb> shocker
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> I would note that some packages do create users... mythbuntu I know does... but odd one would create a "test" user
[01:31] <leftyfb> then that would show up in a log :)
[01:33] <oerheks> let me guess, the hacker is sitting next to him.
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> guessing his password was weak and opened port 22 to the open web
[01:45] <leftyfb> he's got both of those open
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> oh?
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> lovely
[02:08] <lordcirth_> I have 3 3TB HDDs in ZFS raidz for my NAS. 2 of the original drives have failed and been replaced, and the third is getting errors. I am also out of space. Unfortunately the box has neither any free SATA ports or SATA power connectors. My tentative plan is to buy 3 ~8TB HDDs and swap them in one at a time. I might use a USB adapter so I can migrate without actually removing one. Any recommendations?
[02:11] <pragmaticenigma> okay... I'm done with support for tonight... the trolls just keep rolling in
[02:12] <leftyfb> it's insane tonight
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> imachine is a level 8 problem
[02:24] <oerheks> disable cache and swap to speed up a browser
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> disable swap on an underpowered machine... they've only got 4GB of memory
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> dumb
[02:27] <oerheks> dare not to ask; wifi  802.11a 11 mbit?
[02:32] <daftykins> i was confused by this the other day too when TJ was talking about buying 'a' cards, i was thinking he was mad buying old crap
[02:32] <leftyfb> LMFAO!!!!!!!
[02:32] <leftyfb> I JUST got through testing and figuring out the answer to drecondius's enlightenment issue.
[02:32] <leftyfb> I was about to post the answer to them and they signed off
[02:33] <daftykins> my guess was that 'a' refers to 5GHz usage and maybe 'ac' means subset c of 'a' band
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> post it here? maybe one of us will catch them later?
[02:33] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: I installed Ubuntu 18.04 live server, then install e17 and gdm3 (NOT lightdm). Then when you login you pick enlightenment as the DE
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> that looks like the same instructions I found online
[02:34] <leftyfb> they said they tried gdm3, but I doubt it. Or if they did, it was with a mess of an environment they had created
[02:35] <leftyfb> either way, I had zero problem with "xserver"
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> can that be done with out installing ubuntu-desktop package?
[02:39] <leftyfb> without
[02:39] <leftyfb> well, let me chekck. I don't think it got installed. ...
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> if you just installed the gdm package... I don't think it would have been installed
[02:40] <oerheks> he started with server + ssh,..
[02:42] <oerheks> the ppa did not pull in lightdm, leftyfb got it right, gdm3 is.. i gave the reconfigure line for lightdm.. even the systemctl thingy
[02:43] <leftyfb> I just confirmed, no ubuntu-desktop package installed
[02:43] <leftyfb> so ... fresh install of ubuntu server, install e17 and gdm3 , reboot, pick DE, done
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> cool!
[02:44] <oerheks> wayyyyyyyyyyyland?
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> There, got Ubuntu 19.10 on my primary desktop. now.
[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:30] <ducasse> good morning
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[12:06] <Fuseteam> Morning
[12:16] <Ussat> o/
[12:55] <Psi-Jack> Well, this sucks... Rambox Pro randomly stopped... Loading..
[14:31] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: You survived the after hours!
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: is your wiki ready for the public enough to make a factoid out of it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> the old !encrypt was deleted, so we could use one :p
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> lotuspsychje: yes, I meant to tell you earlier... I asked TJ last week about it, and he put a little extra polish and did other essential linking to ready it
[15:14] <TJ-> lotuspsychje:  yes, it is. pragmaticenigma asked over the weekend and I removed the "beta" tag
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> ah great
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> anyone has a proposal for a factoid line, im not sure howto formulate it
[15:17] <TJ-> hmmm - "installing with Full Disk Encryption done properly" !?
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> "How to lose all your data in a few simple steps"
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> oh wait
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> that was that other command
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> Full Disk Encryption at Boot ?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> cant recall anymore
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> and we probably need to integrate both !encrypt and !luks ?
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> !luks
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> hggdh-msft: can you magicly recall old factoid lines?
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> I guess my question is, is this a go forward technique... or is this more of a recommended approach to full drive encrpytion
[15:33] <hggdh-msft> if the factoid has been deleted, it is gone, as far as I can remember
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:38] <hggdh-msft> lotuspsychje: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=encrypt
[16:12] <Psi-Jack> Hmmmm.. Well, I ended up getting Rambox Pro to work again, but by downloading the .deb package and not using the snap, which is... Unusual, It's the only snap app that just stopped working. RamboxCE and RamboxPro both....
[16:13] <Psi-Jack> Anyone have any ideas on this? Snaps are still kinda new to me in general.
[16:20]  * daftykins points at the topic
[16:22] <Psi-Jack> Yes? What about it?
[16:24] <daftykins> well, forgive me... but i think your query is closer to support than discussion
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> except the question would be offtopic in #ubuntu I think too
[16:24] <Psi-Jack> I'm trying to better understand snap, how I could possibly use it to understand what happened.
[16:25] <Psi-Jack> In general respect. ramboxpro itself hasn't been changed since what seems to be December 2018.
[16:25] <Psi-Jack> Err, 20219 sorry. :)
[16:26]  * Psi-Jack tosses his keyboard out the window and replaces it instantly with the same one.
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not really well versed with snaps... but high level. they are a container, that brings along all the necessary dependencies to operate. The snap run without any support from the host OS other than the snapd service. Many of the snaps will require you  to contact the maintainer for support question, or in your case, bugs
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> hmmm. I opened a ticket with them to see if they have any clue.
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> Guess I'll get the full effect of my trial of their pro version, See if they're worth paying into. :)
[17:15] <Psi-Jack> Heh, there's now 2 open cases with Rambox Pro people. The inability to specifically save login with Discord.... Which Rambox CE had no issues with...
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> Psi-Jack: Considering what you are using isn't part of the Ubuntu eco-system... please consider it offtopic here
[21:39] <Bashing-om> UWN620 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue620 :D
[22:01] <Fuseteam> Oof got openemis to work on ubuntu with nginx and i have no idea what change was the crucial one