[00:09] <kasparhauser> Hello, i'm wondering if anybody has any time to help me with a problem i'm having dual booting ubuntu and windows 10
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> kasparhauser: It's best to ask your question up front instead of asking to ask a question. If someone knows something about your situation, they will respond. If no one knows, no one will respond.
[00:15] <oerheks> :-)
[00:22] <JohnnyonFlame> Hello, is there any way to get notification alert sounds on Xubuntu 19.10? I've tried turning it on at the "appearance" app and installing ubuntu-sounds, but I still get no sounds when a notification popup appears.
[00:26] <oerheks> JohnnyonFlame, maybe this page is any help, settings editor, enable event sounds and inputfeedbacksounds ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/928508/notifications-alert-sound-on-xubuntu-16-04
[00:26] <oerheks> this might need a logout/login..
[00:27] <JohnnyonFlame> thanks, I'll attempt that
[00:27] <tomreyn> note there's also #xubuntu (though it can be less active than #ubuntu)
[00:30] <kasparhauser> i'm not really sure how to formulate my question, but you're certainly correct. so i installed ubuntu today and everything seemed fine, i restarted and booted straight to windows. I restarted and poked around the bios options for a bit and trying some things that I've read helped others, but can't find anything really to my specific desktop. there's no option to change add the grub or whatever
[00:30] <kasparhauser> boot option to load ubuntu upon startup
[00:30] <kasparhauser> it just loads straight to windows everytime and in the bios there's no recognition that i even have ubuntu installed
[00:32] <JohnnyonFlame> kasparhauser: have you installed ubuntu booted on UEFI?
[00:33] <kasparhauser> i have UEFI i think
[00:33] <kasparhauser> i'm not really sure what that means
[00:33] <Bashing-om> kasparhauser: I do not do Windows, However, may I suggest that you boot the ubuntu installer in "try ubuntu" mode and run terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' to KNOW if ubuntu is installed ?
[00:34] <Bashing-om> !who | kasparhauser
[00:35] <kasparhauser> !tab
[00:37] <JohnnyonFlame> kasparhauser: depending on how you burned your install media you might have the option to boot ubuntu w/ an UEFI image (it should be listed as such on your computer's boot menu)
[00:39] <Dreaman> use UEFI legacy JohnnyonFlame:
[00:39] <oerheks> check out the uefi manual,
[00:39] <oerheks> !uefi
[00:42] <pragmaticenigma> Dreaman: It's often better to try and understand how someone's system is setup before telling them outright to use UEFI Legacy. If their system has Windows installed with UEFI, then Ubuntu will also need to be installed with UEFI. If the installed Ubuntu in legacy mode, they won't be able to get windows back until they switch the system back to UEFI mode
[00:44] <Dreaman> my dual boot work ok
[00:44] <JohnnyonFlame> yeah, I was recommending installing with UEFI because they did claim "it was booting straight to windows", so I assumed the objective was having the grub menu available for dual booting
[00:44] <kasparhauser> I'm going to check out that UEFI manual and report back - i think it is UEFI
[00:44] <kasparhauser> Bashing-om: I'll also try what you suggested
[00:45] <oerheks> i guess fastboot is your issue..
[00:45] <Bashing-om> kasparhauser: :D When we know more, wee can tell more.
[00:46] <sarnold> kasparhauser: btw one common problem with windows is that "shutting down" is in fact just a suspend of some sort these days
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> Settings => System => Power & Sleep => Additional Power Settings => "Choose what the power buttons do" => "Change settings that are curently unavailable" => Uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" => Click Save
[00:53] <Blade> pragmaticenigma   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zGZRq5qqKj/   :)
[00:53] <Dreaman> see
[00:53] <Dreaman> my setup
[00:53] <Drecondius> can anyone tell me what packages i need to install to have a fully functioning but still minimal enlightenment environment, installing from a server install
[00:54] <Dreaman> work work
[00:54] <Drecondius> because e17 doesn't contain anything other than enlightenment, When I install lightdm followed by enlightenment i get a could not start session message
[00:55] <Andantino> does anyone know how to adjust the pressure for touchpad taps in libinput
[00:56] <pragmaticenigma> Drecondius: you left too early in your last session. leftyfb discovered, and I found that it appears you need to use the gdm Desktop Manager. Which should resolve the issue with being unable to start session.
[00:58] <leftyfb> Drecondius: install server , install e17 and gdm. Reboot. At login pick enlightenment as your DE at the login screen
[00:58] <pragmaticenigma> Dreaman: All that means is that Windows was also installed in Legacy mode (which it can be.) Having one OS installed in UEFI mode, and another in Legacy mode, you will not be able to select between the OSes on boot with out changing settings in the BIOS each time.
[00:58] <Dreaman> i install UEFI not start
[00:58] <Dreaman> change the bios to UEFI legacy
[00:58] <Nyle> Hello, does anyone make music in Ubuntu?
[00:59] <Dreaman> and boot
[00:59] <Nyle> I am looking for a keyboard/synth app I can make stuff in, export as mp3 or wav, and import into audacity for multi tracking
[00:59] <Nyle> I need a synth software with synthesizer effects and piano keyboard layout
[00:59] <oerheks> Nyle, check out ubuntu-studio
[00:59] <oerheks> tons of apps tools synths and more
[00:59] <Nyle> What is an ubuntu studio? I will check it out
[01:00] <Nyle> Oh it's a specialized distro. Ahh. Usually these 'spins' as fedora calls them, have meta packages or tasksel entries
[01:00] <pragmaticenigma> Nyle: It's a flavor of Ubuntu that is pre-setup with Audio/Video/Illustration tools as part of the default installation
[01:00] <Nyle> Do you think ubuntu studio is installable to a regular 18.04 with tasksel or whatever packages
[01:00] <oerheks> one can add the metapackages for those tools
[01:01] <Nyle> I'll check out tasksel hang on
[01:01] <r3muxd> so I just created a livecd with cubic with a custom kernel and patched versions of some packages for my surface tablet
[01:01] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackages
[01:01] <r3muxd> when i install from the livecd, will it copy those patched packages over?
[01:01] <oerheks>  -audio and -recording, i guess
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> r3muxd: Support here is for official Ubuntu flavors as provided through official Ubuntu distribution channels. custom kernels and spins are not supported here
[01:02] <Nyle> Ahh. There are two tasks for it in tasksel-data
[01:02] <oerheks> r3muxd, if you set it up correctly, yes
[01:05] <Nyle> Oh it's got some nice stuff there I didn't know exited even
[01:05] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:07] <Nyle> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntustudio-audio
[01:07] <Nyle> Let's see if any synth stuff is usable/good
[01:07] <Nyle> Thanks
[01:07] <oerheks> Andantino, pressure and libinput , libinput-tools should provide this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/libinput-measure-touchpad-pressure.1.html
[01:07] <oerheks> and some reading https://askubuntu.com/questions/973090/how-to-configure-touchpad-tap-sensitivity
[01:10] <Andantino> thanks oerheks
[01:12] <Nyle> If anyone cares
[01:13] <Nyle> Yoshimi has what I was looking for, keyboard layout and synth effects etc.
[01:13] <sarnold> nice
[01:19] <Nyle> and something silly it does
[01:19] <Nyle> When you go click menu, documentation, it fires this command: find / -name yoshimi-user-manual-1.5.6.pdf -print -quit
[01:20] <Nyle> That's just dumb. That is just universally dumb.
[01:20] <Nyle> I'm on an old machine, and hung up, and wondering why. That's why.
[01:21] <sarnold> wow. that's really dumb.
[01:21] <Nyle> Package needs patching at the very least if upstream isn't going to fix the menu entry command.
[01:21] <Nyle> At the very least, hard code it and drop the manual in /usr/share or something
[01:22] <sarnold> I've got a machine with 100M files on it; I have no idea how long that would take, but it'd be crazy. :) even 'locate foo' takes something like one or two minutes
[01:23] <Nyle> https://github.com/Yoshimi/yoshimi/blob/master/src/UI/MasterUI.fl#L373
[01:23] <Nyle> Why.
[01:24] <Nyle> Why would you do this? sarnold oh ha. I run a cron to keep running updatedb every few hours
[01:24] <Nyle> I love locate.
[01:28] <Nyle> https://github.com/Yoshimi/yoshimi/blob/cb93c31b0fa468e111c06e83c0fd1381f1bd17b7/src/Interface/InterChange.cpp#L746 who the hell codes like this? I mean, yeah, functional app, but some bits are just terrible.
[01:29] <Nyle> Anyway
[01:29] <sarnold> $ time locate foo.bar.baz
[01:29] <sarnold> real	1m41.421s
[01:30] <Nyle> Yeah, this Yoshimi program needs an ubuntu specific patch. Tiny thing not that bad/big.
[01:30] <Nyle> I wonder who the maint is.
[01:31] <Nyle> Oh right, not in Debian anymore.
[01:31] <Nyle> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> not just one person.
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> Nyle: Come join us in #ubuntu-discuss to continue this topic please
[01:31] <Nyle> Ok
[01:32] <oerheks> maybe you need the backports ppa, but it might pull in more than just your app,, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA
[02:04] <Drecondius> so the only  way, according to apt and aptitude, to get gdm, is to install ubuntu-desktop ...
[02:05] <Drecondius> wait, i may not have enabled uinverse
[02:05] <Drecondius> but it shoulddn't be in universe should it?
[02:07] <cciecanuck> isnt everything in the universe?
[02:08] <Drecondius> touche`
[02:09] <Drecondius> What i mean is the singular package set for just gdm shouldn't be in the universe repo but the main correct?
[02:10] <ducasse> Drecondius: ubuntu-desktop is not a dependency of gdm3 afaict
[02:14] <Drecondius> nope, but the desktop depends on gdm3
[02:19] <ducasse> true, but not what you said
[02:23] <Drecondius> what I said was "I shouldn't have to install ubuntu-desktop just to get gdm." meaning it's wasted space and bandwidth to download the entire desktop suite when all I want is gdm
[02:23] <ducasse> Drecondius: since ubuntu-desktop is not a dependency, you can install gdm3 by itself
[02:25] <ducasse> you can install any wm instead of gnome-shell
[02:44] <Drecondius> I cannot, for the life of me locate gdm, is it perhaps gdm3 or something else
[02:45] <tomreyn> right, gdm3
[02:45] <Drecondius> and now this is the part where i kick myself in the ***
[02:47] <Drecondius> I really wanted to work with the entrance wm that is part of the enlightenment desktop experienc but It doesn't come with e17
[02:47] <Drecondius> hell, it's not even listed on the enlightenment website
[02:51] <tomreyn> the path to enlightenment is long and full of hardships, they say.
[02:52] <tomreyn> but you could start by having a glimpse at the e17* packages
[02:53] <Drecondius> i did, there isn't any mention of entrancedm
[02:53] <Drecondius> which saddens me
[02:54] <Drecondius> gdm is a bit heavy for the computer I'm using it on, so i've been scouring the internet for the past few hours trying to find a decent answer and lo, the mighty google has failed
[02:55] <ducasse> Drecondius: try lightdm or slim
[02:55] <sarnold> root        2078  0.0  0.0   8520  2124 ?        Ss   Feb22   0:00 /usr/bin/xdm -nodaemon
[02:56] <Drecondius> One can only assume, as I am right now, with all the links pointing back to the enlightenment website, that it's included in efl
[02:57] <tomreyn> this is from debian, but probably applies to ubuntu as well: https://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager
[02:58] <sarnold> oh man, nodm, that's a perfect fit for usecases people have every few months
[03:16] <Drecondius> nodm would work wonderfully lol, after it's setup it's going to be disconnected from the internet and basically sleep till it detects a joystick input or bluetooth wake event
[03:18] <johnfg> hi folks
[03:19] <johnfg> I did some regular upgrades to 19.10 today, and now, ubuntu desktop doesn't start.  Says it's a problem with gnome-initial-setup.
[03:20] <johnfg> Is this a known problem?  btw...I went back to the previous kernel, but that made no difference.  I'm getting no login screen.
[03:24] <johnfg> Linux ubuntuhome 5.3.0-40-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 31 20:24:34 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux is what I'm running.
[03:24] <johnfg> 5.3.0-18-genereric is my other, older kernel.
[03:24] <Drecondius> login at the tty and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3
[03:25] <johnfg> Drecondius: Since I'm at tty2 now, I can do that.
[03:25] <Drecondius> @johnfg
[03:25] <Drecondius> you can do it from any tty
[03:25] <Drecondius> except 7 because that's reserved for x
[03:26] <Drecondius> well, I think my ssd just bit the bucket
[03:26] <sarnold> johnfg: did you spot anything in the logs?
[03:26] <sarnold> Drecondius: yikes :(
[03:26] <johnfg> I ran that cmd, but it didn't make a difference.  Would I have to reboot?
[03:27] <johnfg> sarnold: That's a bummer.
[03:27] <Drecondius> yes
[03:27] <johnfg> k, brb
[03:27] <Drecondius> yup, it's dead, no boot device found
[03:28] <Drecondius> well, maybe if i can get a live to boot i can try to bring it back
[03:33] <johnfg> No difference after reboot.
[03:33] <johnfg> [   20.053384] gnome-initial-s[1568]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fb10cccc572 sp 00007fff55622c48 error 4 in libc-2.30.so[7fb10cc44000+178000]
[03:33] <johnfg> That's from dmesg.
[03:34] <johnfg> there is a /var/log/gdm3, but it's empty.
[03:34] <sarnold> that's it? dang. that's a bit thin.
[03:35] <johnfg> Any other log I should look in?
[03:37] <sarnold> try journalctl -xe
[03:37] <tomreyn> johnfg: you may also have more info in /var/crash and, if you submit crash reports, at       x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)
[03:38] <johnfg> I did submit the crash reports.
[03:43] <johnfg> So, I do have the info in /var/crash.  Hard  to decipher.  Any ideas?
[03:43] <tomreyn> apport-unpack --help
[03:45] <johnfg> Usage: /usr/bin/apport-unpack <report> <target directory>
[03:46] <tomreyn> so /var/crash/ contains reports, you can unpack and then inspect them.
[03:47] <tomreyn> but it may be easier to just share your unique whoopsie id, if you're not thinking of this as sensitive matter, or some of the crashes listed on your web browser when running the command i provided.
[03:48] <tomreyn> the     x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)    command, that is
[03:49] <johnfg>  Error: no DISPLAY environment variable specified.  Do I have to be using X for that browser?
[03:50] <johnfg> I'm in a tty
[03:51] <tomreyn> for this X browser? yes. or you can set DISPLAY=:0 or just share the whoopsie id which is printed using      echo $(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)
[03:53] <Drecondius> I lose all input when starting with nodm, how can i start in safe mode and remove nodm
[03:54] <tomreyn> !recovery
[03:54] <johnfg> 1f044936167cf4f42cf853ceea9eda1ef0975ea6b388d6c3c74cb579357146add6088b1f6dc116e3a899b081169d78c27fd3434c784fb956d30e1d90d13924a7
[03:54] <johnfg> There it is.
[03:54] <Drecondius> thank ye kindly
[03:54] <johnfg> np
[03:54] <johnfg> sorry, that was for tomreyn
[03:54] <sarnold> oh wow, openafs? neat
[03:55] <tomreyn> openafs?
[03:55] <sarnold> one of the loaded kernel modules
[03:55] <shinobi> I cannot get mdadm to scrub my array. echoing check does not initiate the scrub. checkarray said a check is queued, but nothing happens...
[03:56] <sarnold> it's an implementation of AFS, which is a bit like NFS, but different :)(
[03:56] <johnfg> Yup, been running openafs for lots of years.  server is debian.
[03:56] <tomreyn> also wayland apparently
[03:57] <tomreyn> oh right i missed openafs there
[03:58] <sarnold> hmm, what would happen if you just purge gnome-initial-setup ? would it bust new users when they try to log in for the first time?
[03:59] <Drecondius> can I get my normal boot console to have a bigger font, i'm setting this up on a 4k tv and it's a bit hard to read 2m away
[04:00] <Drecondius> i figured that measurement is in better perspective for most people here right now
[04:02] <johnfg> sarnold: how would I do that?
[04:03] <sarnold> johnfg: apt purge gnome-initial-setup
[04:03] <johnfg> sarnold: ok, gotcha.  I thought you meant something else.  And then, I assume, reinstall?  Would you reboot in between?
[04:04] <sarnold> johnfg: if it's a single-user machine, maybe just remove it, reboot, see what happens..
[04:04] <sarnold> if you never add new users you may not miss it
[04:04] <tomreyn> so i suspect this is wayland related. it may also be related to having outdated package versions installed (UnreportableReason): "apport, libegl-mesa0, libegl1-mesa, libgbm1, libgl1-mesa-dri, libglapi-mesa, libglx-mesa0, libxatracker2, mesa-vulkan-drivers, python3-apport, python3-problem-report"
[04:05] <johnfg> This is a very new install of ubuntu-19.10, on what's a new to me, panasonic toughbook.
[04:05] <johnfg> Don't know how I'd have outdated package versions installed.
[04:05] <johnfg> Is there a way to fix the problem?
[04:05] <tomreyn> !update
[04:06] <tomreyn> hmm no not this
[04:06] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[04:06] <sarnold> Drecondius: hmm, so the boot parameters guide says vga=ask is a 32 bit thing :) heh -- and https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/svga.rst looks *really* old
[04:07] <johnfg> I'll do the latter.  The other was already done twice today, as I thought there may have been a problem with the earlier upgrade.
[04:07] <tomreyn> johnfg: so just install any pending updates
[04:07] <johnfg> tomreyn: I believe they all are, but I'll double-check.
[04:07] <johnfg> Nope, nothing to upgrade.
[04:08] <johnfg> What's next to try?
[04:09] <tomreyn> johnfg: you can try the workaround sarnold suggested. and / or we can file a bug and, if you have a launchpad account, yuo can add to and subscribe to it.
[04:09] <sarnold> Drecondius: setupcon and setfont may be able to help, but they are probably also from the 90s. the console is not well-loved, I think
[04:11] <johnfg> If I try what sarnold suggested, do you think I should reboot before reinstalling?
[04:12] <tomreyn> johnfg: i think the suggetion was to not reinstall gnome-initial-login
[04:13] <tomreyn> but you should reboot to check for any effects, yes. are you able to reproduce the error?
[04:14] <johnfg> Does it for both of my kernels, yes.
[04:14] <tomreyn> johnfg: so that's whenever you login to gnome on wayland?
[04:14] <johnfg> and every time I reboot
[04:15] <Drecondius> jfc, how big is the xorg library, it's been downloading now for 30 minutes and I have a gigbit down
[04:15] <tomreyn> johnfg: ah, so it's somewhat easy to test, good. by the way, not using wqyland would probably also be a workaround if that's an option for you
[04:15] <johnfg> userdel: user gnome-initial-setup is currently used by process 1272
[04:15] <johnfg> Could not remove gnome-initial-setup user.
[04:17] <Drecondius> do you have an nvidia gpu?
[04:17] <Drecondius> errmm
[04:17] <Drecondius> johnfg do you have an nvidia gpu?
[04:17] <Drecondius> what did i do wrong
[04:17] <sarnold> he's gone
[04:17] <sarnold> probably he's just rebooting
[04:17] <Drecondius> oh
[04:18] <sarnold> I'm off, have fun, good luck :)
[04:18] <Drecondius> night for now
[04:18] <tomreyn> have a good night
[04:18] <sarnold> thanks :D
[04:24] <johnfg> Well, the apt purge didn't completely work, as it said there was a process running.
[04:24] <johnfg> I actually did a startx from tty2, and do have x up and running at least.
[04:25] <tomreyn> so what about wayland vs standard Xorg?
[04:29] <johnfg> tomreyn: I didn't even know I'd been using wayland.
[04:29] <johnfg> My other 2 machines at the office are running debian buster, and ubuntu-server.
[04:30] <tomreyn> johnfg: you must have selected it at some point frmo the login manager.
[04:30] <johnfg> Where is it configured to use wayland vs. standard Xorg?  Is that the default now, as I'm quite sure I didn't select it.
[04:30] <tomreyn> default is still Xorg
[04:31] <tomreyn> you choose on the login screen
[04:31] <tomreyn> on gdm3 there's a little cog icon after entring the username, i think
[04:32] <johnfg> tomreyn the login screen isn't offering that at this point.  I guess it's not getting that far.
[04:32] <johnfg> any other way to do it?
[04:34] <tomreyn> JohnnyonFlame: hmm, reboot to recovery, then start networking, drop to root shell, then     apt purge gnome-initial-setup
[04:35] <tomreyn> sorry JohnnyonFlame, this was meant for johnfg
[04:37] <tomreyn> bbl
[04:58] <Drecondius> so, i just removed the default network manager from ubuntu server by accident, can i use the installer usb as a repo to re-install it?
[05:16] <johnfg> sorry for the delay in getting back.
[05:17] <Drecondius> no worries
[05:17] <johnfg> Well, all appears to be pretty much back to normal.  And I believe that both gnome and gnome-wayland will work.
[05:17] <Drecondius> do you have an nvidia gpu?
[05:18] <johnfg> What I had to do (or did, any way) was do dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 a 2nd time, then do a systemctl restart gdm3, and I had pretty much a normal looking login: name, then the gear box.
[05:19] <johnfg> radeon
[05:20] <johnfg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M]
[05:21] <Drecondius> ah
[05:21] <johnfg> Drecondius: what were you thinking?
[05:22] <Drecondius> Well, nvidia drivers have an issue with wayland, I've had the same problem you had with my laptop and another computer both using nvidia proprietary drivers
[05:24] <Drecondius> one of the machines the drivers messed up the xorg config, the other, messed with gdm
[05:24] <johnfg> thanks to all that tried to help with the problem.  glad it's gone away (even if not *fixed*)
[05:25] <Drecondius> if it's functioning like it's supposed to, it's fixed
[05:27] <johnfg> Drecondius: :-)
[07:03] <CQ2> hello, for some reason my system is in German, even though I have tried to set everyting to english. Any ideas? Apt etc. are showing German
[07:10] <ap5> CQ2, nein
[07:13] <geirha> What is  LANGUAGE is set to in /etc/default/locale
[07:35] <StianL> I have a bluetooth headset (wh-1000xm3) connected to my Ubuntu 18.04 lts laptop and it's working well for all applications except for my browser. The sound from my browser (vivaldi) insists on going out through the builtin laptop speakers. What can I do to debug that? All other sound is coming to the bluetooth headset as expected.
[07:37] <Guest_73> help i'm getting a blue screen ubuntu ...
[07:38] <vuurdraak> good day everybody, is there a way to stop the annoying popups on boot about the linux and/or windows swap disks having no space, as that is the intention hof thos swap partitions that they use all their space, turning off notifications for files in: Settings -> Notifications -> Files , doesn't do much
[07:38] <Guest_73> gnome isn't working and i can't open files or terminal ...
[07:39] <vuurdraak> Guest_73, sounds like you need to create a bootable usb stick
[07:39] <vuurdraak> or a cd/dvd with ubuntu on it to boot from
[07:39] <Guest_73> vuurdraak you mean do a reinstall ?
[07:39] <vuurdraak> no
[07:40] <vuurdraak> you can run ubuntu from it without installing
[07:40] <Guest_73> but i can't access the files that way no ?
[07:40] <vuurdraak> do you get the grub/boot menu on start ?
[07:40] <Guest_73> yes. i can login and everything
[07:40] <vuurdraak> yes you can access your files in a gui
[07:41] <vuurdraak> did you try to boot in to recovery mode first ?
[07:41] <vuurdraak> from grub
[07:41] <Guest_73> yeah, i tried booting in recovery mode and fixing the dpkg ..
[07:41] <vuurdraak> when starting on from recovery mode you stil get an error ?
[07:42] <Guest_73> yeah
[07:42] <Guest_73> vuurdraak ^^
[07:42] <vuurdraak> what do you mean with bleu screen , graphics errors or text ?
[07:42] <Guest_73> a blue screen with no icons on it
[07:42] <Guest_73> graphic errors
[07:43] <vuurdraak> one sec let me check a file
[07:43] <Guest_73> i was editing a  file '/usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml' and had to shut the terminal prematurely. The file was unformatted. could that have been the problem
[07:43] <Guest_73> ?
[07:44] <vuurdraak> so it worked untill you started editing that file ?
[07:44] <Guest_73> well, it was taking an unusually long time to load web pages beforehand
[07:45] <Guest_73> can i fix that file by booting up with a usb stick ?
[07:45] <vuurdraak> but you did get a working gui before ?
[07:45] <vuurdraak> yes
[07:45] <Guest_73> yeah, gui used to work fine
[07:45] <Guest_73> gnome was working np
[07:45] <vuurdraak> i always have a bootable usb stick with ubuntu on it to reaque stuff
[07:45] <vuurdraak> resque
[07:46] <vuurdraak> u can make it if necesairy from windows, or from another computer
[07:46] <Guest_73> so i can fix the  file '/usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml' from a live usb ubuntu yes ?
[07:47] <Guest_73> is it possible that it wasn't the file that caused the issue ?
[07:47] <vuurdraak> i guess yes, if its the same version ubuntu, in theory there should be the same file there if its in the basic install i guess even
[07:48] <Guest_73> but can i edit the file on the harddrive from ubuntu live ?
[07:48] <Guest_73> i'm not so sure i can
[07:48] <vuurdraak> yes you can
[07:48] <vuurdraak> root pasword on the live cd is non existent
[07:48] <vuurdraak> you can just sudo mount stuff if necesairy
[07:48] <vuurdraak> i think it auto mounts partitions anyway
[07:49] <vuurdraak> or go via resque mode in the CLI, and use a text editor like vi
[07:49] <Guest_73> ok thanks. i'll try.
[07:50] <Guest_73> what's rescue mode ?
[07:50] <Guest_73> if i can edit the file, can i save it to disk ?
[07:50] <vuurdraak> yes
[07:51] <vuurdraak> resque mode i mean from grub
[07:51] <vuurdraak> drop to root shell prompt
[07:51] <vuurdraak> but then u need to do everything in text  mode
[07:51] <vuurdraak> more easy with a live usb stick
[07:52] <Guest_73> ok thanks vuurdraak :-)
[07:52] <vuurdraak> unless u want to ad/remove packages, like reinstall X11 if that file you edited is part of it
[07:52] <vuurdraak> then you need the grub resque mode on the original system
[07:52] <vuurdraak> root shell etc to apt-get remove/install stuff
[07:53] <vuurdraak> ow he was gone already :')
[07:54] <vuurdraak> back to my original question :D ->  is there a way to stop the annoying popups on boot about the linux and/or windows swap disks having no space, as that is the intention hof thos swap partitions that they use all their space, turning off notifications for files in: Settings -> Notifications -> Files , doesn't do much
[07:54] <vuurdraak> on ubuntu 18.04*
[07:55] <vuurdraak> i thought i had it turned off somewhere in 16.04, but i forgot how
[08:03] <StianL> I figured out how to solve my problem. Using PulseAudio Volume Control I was able to choose which output the sound from my browser should go to.
[08:04] <vuurdraak> pavu is great yes, good to switch between computer sound and hdmi tv sound :)
[08:05] <arunkumar413> Hi All
[08:06] <vuurdraak> hi o/
[08:06] <arunkumar413> How to enforce a proper formatting on a CSV file in libre office spreadsheet
[08:07] <arunkumar413> Here is my required format https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/b5b7tV69wJ/
[08:07] <vuurdraak> i never use spreadsheet's i am sorry, hopefully somebody does
[10:30] <eeos> hi everybody! What DLNA server do you use on *ubuntu?
[10:37] <NoOova> Hello guys. I just installed Ubuntu 19.10 and latest Chromium (snap). I have a powerful PC but chrome freezes some times.
[10:37] <NoOova> Is it known issue? How to install chromium without snap?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> NoOova: chromium browser is default snap now on 19.10
[10:56] <oerheks> chromium is also as deb available
[11:25] <zetheroo> I have an Ubuntu 16.04 VM with a 20GB disk and the monitoring is alerting about less than 10% free disk space. So I had a look and saw that / is only 8.1GB and /sys/fs/cgroup is 15GB ..!?
[11:26] <vuurdraak> q: is there a way to stop the annoying popups on boot about the linux and/or windows swap disks having no space, as that is the intention of those swap partitions that they use all their space, turning off notifications for files in: Settings -> Notifications -> Files , doesn't do much
[11:26] <zetheroo> Here is the output of 'df -h' : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6pTvDXFJD9/
[11:26] <vuurdraak> on 18.04 lts
[11:27] <EriC^> zetheroo: what's the output of "sudo parted -ls"
[11:28] <zetheroo> EriC^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hdWPRkfq6M/
[11:29] <zetheroo> oh swap is 12 GB
[11:29] <zetheroo> hmm ..
[11:30] <vuurdraak> linux doesn't realy need a swap drive unlike windows, i would just remove it
[11:31] <oerheks> not really a good advise, vuurdraak
[11:31] <zetheroo> vuurdraak: uhm no ;)
[11:31] <vuurdraak> on a VM with 20gig spce ?
[11:32] <vuurdraak> space*
[11:32] <vuurdraak> or at least reduce the swap drive to a very low amount
[11:33] <zetheroo> This VM is for running IDL jobs ... needs a lot of memory and sometimes bumps into needing swap without which the IDL job would just crash.
[11:33] <vuurdraak> ah okay :')
[11:35] <zetheroo> I think it was set to 12GB swap initially because the VM was allocated 12GB memory. Now that the VM has 30GB memory it swaps a lot less and so the swap can probably be reduced.
[11:39] <Sir_Leto> how do I diagnose incoming packet loss?
[11:39] <Sir_Leto> I think my ISP blocks ICMP
[11:39] <vuurdraak> install wireshark ?
[11:39] <Sir_Leto> so I can't ping
[11:40] <neure> hi
[11:40] <neure> I am looking for image viewer which can handle webp
[11:41] <vuurdraak> i am reading that since 2016 gimp can open webp
[11:41] <vuurdraak> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GIMP-WebP-Image-Support
[11:41] <oerheks> libwebp is available in ubuntu, and installed, i see
[11:42] <oerheks> !info libwebp
[11:42] <neure> I don't consider gimp an image viewer
[11:42] <oerheks> !info libwebp6
[11:42] <neure> image viewer is something that I can use to quickly browse through images in a directory
[11:42] <neure> also libwebp is not an image viewer
[11:43] <oerheks> it is the library for imageviewers.
[11:43] <neure> well I am looking for an app I can use today, not for several days or weeks coding time to make one myself..
[11:45] <EriC^> neure: one of these might do the job, https://askubuntu.com/questions/544254/which-image-viewers-in-linux-support-the-webp-image-format
[11:45] <EriC^> gwenview i think has the ability to show thumbnails for dirs and is more featureful
[11:46] <lxer> Since a few months suspend/hibernate doesn't work anymore as expected for my laptop. It still uses energy and is empty after about 8hours. Is this a known issue? anything I can do about it?
[11:46] <vuurdraak> ? sudo apt-get install webp => just wanted to post the same link :')
[11:46] <EriC^> neure: eog is very simple and not clustered, you'll need that webp loader with it though
[11:46] <oerheks> if you have that libwebp installed, any viewercan use it, example https://www.gstatic.com/webp/gallery/1.sm.webp
[11:47] <EriC^> lxer: maybe it's a problem with a newer kernel, have you tried an older one?
[11:48] <mlokpc> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped) on Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial
[11:48] <lxer> EriC^: in the past, yes :)
[11:48] <mlokpc> Anybody know how I can find out was is causing this error? Thank you
[11:48] <EriC^> lxer: it also had the same problem?
[11:49] <EriC^> mlokpc: where did you get that error?
[11:49] <mlokpc> EriC^: When running puppet afaik it seems to be a RAM issue
[11:49] <lxer> EriC^: I didn't have the issue 6months ago. But of course I don't know if it is kernel related.
[11:49] <EriC^> mlokpc: maybe /var/crash or /var/log/apport.log has some info
[11:49] <mlokpc> EriC^: cool thanks
[11:50] <EriC^> mlokpc: no problem
[11:51] <EriC^> lxer: yes, i mean to boot using an older kernel when it used to work to see if that's the issue, if you absolutely need it right now to work
[11:51] <neure> I did sudo apt install webp but eog still does not show webp images
[11:51] <mlokpc> EriC^: What is the best way to look for any RAM issues? I know memtest but I don't want to reboot
[11:51] <EriC^> mlokpc: same here, i only know of memtest
[11:51] <neure> oh it needs the webp-pixbuf-loader
[11:52] <EriC^> mlokpc: maybe this might help
[11:52] <EriC^> !memtester | mlokpc
[11:52] <EriC^> !info memtester | mlokpc
[11:53] <mlokpc> ubottu: memtester is the only way?
[11:54] <EriC^> mlokpc: memtester runs on the live system i think, it doesnt need a reboot
[11:54] <EriC^> ubottu is a bot btw
[11:57] <lxer> EriC^: I'm using 5.0.0-40-generic .  would it be wise to try 5.4 ?
[11:58] <EriC^> lxer: it's up to you
[11:58] <EriC^> !mainline | lxer
[11:58] <lxer> thnx
[11:58] <EriC^> it can't harm, unless you're going for any hwe, since that involves a lot of xorg packages too and not just the kernel
[11:59] <EriC^> i'd stick with mainline to test and see if it works
[11:59] <EriC^> no problem
[11:59] <mlokpc> EriC^: looking at it again, the swap is running at Max
[12:00] <vuurdraak> anybody knows a way to stop disk full notifications on a particular drive in 18.04 rather then disabeling it for all drives with: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.housekeeping active false
[12:10] <vuurdraak> i notice org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.housekeeping ignore-paths exsists , it currently has the key value of: @as []
[12:11] <vuurdraak> shoul i just ad an extra path behind it and the that disk will be ignored ?
[12:11] <parrotlover> Hello, is there the java wrapper service for openjdk in the aarch64 repos?
[12:11] <parrotlover> I am running ubuntu on an S10+ phone, with aarch64 architecture
[12:23] <mlokpc> Ubuntu Xenial Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[12:23] <mlokpc> Does anybody know what could be causing this?
[12:26] <oskie> hello, what's the description of the *-updates repos? (e.g. bionic-updates)
[12:26] <oskie> trying to determine whether they should be used in production systems
[12:29] <Orbstheorem> Hello, what debian release is ubuntu bionic based on?
[12:30]  * Orbstheorem learns about `/etc/debian_version`
[12:30] <Orbstheorem> Nvm ^^"
[12:49] <vuurdraak> ah finaly found out how the formating works ;') => gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.housekeeping ignore-paths "@as ['/mnt/win7swap','/dev/sdc3','/dev/sdc4/','/dev/sdd3/','/dev/sdd4/']"
[12:49] <vuurdraak> and that it is also accasible through dconf editor
[12:50] <vuurdraak> have a nice day all o/
[12:59] <PCatinean> hey guys, how long do syslog logs survive by default in ubuntu?
[13:07] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean: That depends if you have modified the logrotate settings of your system
[13:07] <oerheks> one can change settings in /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog but for me it's daily by default.
[13:07] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean: You can check in your system: nano /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog
[13:08] <PCatinean> pragmaticenigma, thank you, let me see
[13:08] <PCatinean> But the logs themselves they are never erased right?
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> incorrect
[13:10] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean: the entry for "rotate" tells you how many cycles of logs are kept. A cycle is defined by seeing daily, monthly, hourly, etc... in the definition brackets for the directory
[13:11] <PCatinean> pragmaticenigma, thank you kindly for the info
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean: While I'm unfamiliar with the particulars... journalctl is a better resource for searching system logs
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> I do not know how long data remains available or where to check, however, some systemd services may only place their entries there instead of syslog
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:11] <parrotlover> hi BluesKaj
[14:11] <BluesKaj> hi parrotlover
[14:11] <parrotlover> how are you BluesKaj ?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> parrotlover, ok here, and you?
[14:12] <parrotlover> Pretty good... trying to compile a kernel that reports my phones SoC as aarch64 instead f Exynos9
[14:12] <parrotlover> so that I can have my system architecture detected by software
[14:14] <parrotlover> Just playing with Ubuntu on my phone... I have been working on it for years after trying to contribute to UT and no one wanting my great solutions and better methods... so I finally have a build which is usable and more complete/stable/driver support than any offiically supported device
[14:14] <parrotlover> I need a name for it, since UT/Halium people told me to not call it by their names since it's so different
[14:15] <parrotlover> Maybe NixPhone, or something like that... I'm really proud right now to be running this after many years of work by me and by an employee of mine who contributed a ton
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> parrotlover: Please understand that if you aren't actively seeking help or helping someone the place for chatting about your projects is in #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks
[14:15] <parrotlover> pragmaticenigma, thank you for being kind when informing me of this. I will go there now
[14:30] <Woodpecker> I'm trying to access this website using firefox on ubuntu : https://@abbotsford.craigslist.org/egr/d/langley-draftsperson-detailing/7069243294.html# << its
[14:30] <Woodpecker> It says the connection is reset
[14:31] <Woodpecker> Im just wondering if this is happening for others as well, or if Im being rejected. If I am, I am wondering what I would do in ubuntu to fix this?
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> Woodpecker: That's not an Ubuntu issue, and this isn't the place for troubleshooting internet connectivity problems
[14:32] <Woodpecker> k thanks
[14:32] <EriC^> Woodpecker: i get this error Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG
[14:32] <EriC^> try without https, using http maybe
[14:32] <Woodpecker> EriC^: ah okay
[14:32] <EriC^> nope same issue for me at least
[14:33] <Woodpecker> EriC^: okay so I know its probably not me.
[14:33] <Woodpecker> thanks
[14:33] <EriC^> Woodpecker: it's a problem with their ssl stuff on their end, will probably fix it later if not contact them about it, 1 sec
[14:33] <Woodpecker> !cookies | EriC^
[14:35] <EriC^> Woodpecker: yeah i was trying to see if a google "cache" of it exists, seems no
[14:36] <Woodpecker> EriC^: thats good enough. Thanks, I am adjusting my code to handle this as an error to skip. I was wondering if it was blocking my IP or something, and if I had to do a vpn or something.
[14:37] <EriC^> ah ok
[14:37] <EriC^> no problem
[15:19] <tommygun05> learning linux adminstration, mounted an external hd to store virtual box vdi's but I cannot seem to access the partition
[15:19] <tommygun05> can access it only as roo
[15:19] <tommygun05> root
[15:20] <tommygun05> I put myself in the vboxusers group
[15:20] <genii> The root of all hard drives are always owned by root
[15:21] <tommygun05> so when I open virtualbox and create the VM, it gives me a no access error
[15:21] <tommygun05> I tried changing the group to vboxusers on the partition
[15:21] <tommygun05> no worky
[15:22] <tommygun05> I tried to just create a folder on that partition as a myself but that also errors
[15:22] <tommygun05> drwxrwxr-x   3 root root  4096 Mar  3 06:32 Experiments
[15:23] <tommygun05> vboxusers:x:140:tommy
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: How are you mounting the drive?
[15:26] <tommygun05> LABEL=Experiments /Experiments ext4 user,owner,noauto,defaults 0 0
[15:27] <tommygun05> then I use "mount /Experiments"
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: This is a permanently attached drive?
[15:28] <tommygun05> @pragmaticenigma external usb drive
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> Personally, I do not add external drives to fstab. Instead, I use udiskctl (example: udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sdg1) which will mount the drive in /mount/{username}/{disklabel} and will apply the appropriate permissions for access
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> sorry... had the wrong path there... it mounts to /media ... not /mount
[15:31] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: TIL about udisksctl
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: I learned about it when dealing with issues in KDE/Dolphin and it not helpfully mounting/unmounting devices without throwing errors and locking up my system
[15:40] <tommygun05> used udisksctl to mount the drive, but virtualbox still complains that I do not have access
[15:40] <tommygun05> unmounted it first and then remounted it using udisksctl
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: For sure you don't want the drive mounted before you call udiskctl
[16:09] <tommygun05> pragmaticenigma: no, I had unmounted it and made sure that I could not see it the list of mounts
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: Is the USB drive formatted in a native linux format like Ext? or is it NTFS/ExFAT?
[16:24] <eeos> hi everybody! What do you use as DLNA server on *ubuntu? If so, can you please point me to some documentation? I have googled but with scarce success. I have 18.04 LTS 64 bit .
[16:25] <eeos> PS: I need a DLNA server that cna be managed through graphical interface.
[16:25] <ecormier> kodi works well for that
[16:26] <ecormier> used to use mediatomb... harder to setup, but some nice options and lightweight
[16:27] <leftyfb> eeos: look at kodi or plex. Other than that, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for software opinions
[16:28] <eeos> ecormier: thanks!
[16:29] <eeos> leftyfb: is this not the channel for ubuntu support?
[16:29] <leftyfb> eeos: it is. But opinions on software is not a support issue.
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> eeos: It is a support channel... not a recommendations channel
[16:38] <tommygun05> no luck with any options.  If I open virtualbox as a user, I cannot save anything to the /Experiments mount
[16:38] <tommygun05> as a root user, however, it is just fine
[16:38] <tommygun05> beats me.  I also part of the vboxusers group for virtualbox
[16:38] <tommygun05> also for the disk group even though the partition has a root group
[16:38] <tommygun05> any other ideas?
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: Suggestion... don't mount to the "/" root folder... if you're using it for just your user, mount it to a folder in your home directory instead. You might be fighting some ACLs
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> Could also be fighting AppArmor
[16:40] <leftyfb> tommygun05: it could also be the ownership of the /Experiments directory before and after mounting
[16:42] <tommygun05> leftyfb: it shows root root for ownership and group
[16:42] <tommygun05> after mount
[16:42] <leftyfb> tommygun05: what about before?
[16:42] <tommygun05> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Mar  2 15:52 Experiments
[16:42] <tommygun05> let me change the permissions and see
[16:43] <tommygun05> just notices that there is not write for group
[16:43] <leftyfb> also, for fstab, try auto user,umask=000
[16:44] <tommygun05> @leftyfb: before was also the same.  root and root were the owners and group
[16:44] <tommygun05> let me try those
[16:45] <leftyfb> tommygun05: change it so it's not root/root. Change it to a user/group your user is part of
[16:45] <notguest96> I can't seem to install the latest version of focal
[16:45] <tommygun05> leftyfb: did that.  I changed it to vboxusers group which I am part off
[16:45] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | notguest96
[16:46] <tommygun05> so it was root owner and vboxusers group
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> tommygun05: group doesn't have write access
[16:46] <tommygun05> even then it seemed to not have access
[16:46] <tommygun05> pragmaticenigma: thanks, noticed that, fixing it and trying out again
[16:54] <tommygun05> only when I give others a write permission on that folder, I am able to create anything on it
[16:54] <tommygun05> drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 Mar  3 10:53 Experiments
[16:55] <tommygun05> even basically creating a file or folder as myself
[16:55] <tommygun05> is not permitted
[16:55] <tommygun05> with my userid
[16:55] <tommygun05> unless the others get a write permission
[16:58] <tommygun05> drwxrwxr-x 4 root vboxusers 4096 Mar  3 10:53 Experiments
[16:58] <tommygun05> vboxusers:x:140:tommy
[16:58] <tommygun05> even that setup does not allow me to create a file or folder
[16:59] <leftyfb> tommygun05: log out and back in
[16:59] <leftyfb> tommygun05: your vboxusers group setting probably hasn't kicked in yet
[16:59] <tommygun05> thanks leftyfb...logging out
[17:07] <Enissay> On a VM I have deactivated the lock screen, yet, ubuntu keeps asking to slide up to access the desktop. Is there a way to remove that as well ?
[17:39] <people398594> good lord what is happening
[17:39] <people398594> my gui messes up every time i open skype
[17:39] <people398594> even the web client
[17:39] <people398594> buttons become unpressable and text boxes become un-enterable
[17:40] <Randolf> Isn't Skype closed-source software from Microsoft?
[17:40] <people398594> the problems bleed into other programs though
[17:41] <people398594> it becomes impossible to switch tabs in firefox or enter a message in hexchat
[17:45] <people398594> interestingly I am still able to switch programs and log out of gnome but the actual UI elements inside the programs don't work
[17:47] <people398594> also it'd be insane for me to ask my business associates to use IRC or Tox
[17:49] <sixwheeledbeast> people398594: is it running via wine?
[17:56] <Randolf> people398594:  There may be some keyboard stuff for that application that need to be prevented from taking over the system.
[17:56] <Randolf> Oh, they're gone.
[18:10] <wedr> I'm going to jinx myself.
[18:11] <wedr> As of today, it's been about 1 week 4 days since Ubuntu intermittently froze on me at work.
[18:11] <wedr> i think some updates have fixed the freezing issue I had suffered in the past.
[18:11] <wedr> nice.
[18:21] <Vitalus> My ubuntu has suddenly crashed a few times without any indication of what happened. Can someone point me to a relevant log file so I can try to investigate?
[18:24] <Ben64> Vitalus: check everything in /var/log and look for stuff around the time of the crash
[18:25] <EriC^^> Vitalus: /var/log/syslog might have something if you're lucky
[18:30] <Vitalus> I found something that might be relevant, but it doesn't seem to continue too much information.
[18:31] <Vitalus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jg4XsXk39P/
[18:32] <Vitalus> after this, there's like 40 more failed messages and it seems to be around the time my system crashed.
[18:33] <Vitalus> esp. this line seems important(?): Mar  3 12:41:52 scott gnome-software[2915]: internal error: failed, but no error code: cancelled
[18:50] <briggse> Hello, I'm having some issues installing Nvidia drivers on my fresh 19.10 install. I'm having some issues with this.
[18:51] <briggse> (apologies, I attempted to make a new line, more incoming)
[18:52] <briggse> The Software & Updates panel didn't show any 3rd party drivers to be installed so i've attempted to follow directions to do so, however, when I run `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` it's attempted to install the nvidia-driver-440 package and failing due to unmet dependancies
[18:52] <briggse> I'm having issues finding some answers online and I was hoping someone could give me a shove in the right direction
[18:53] <briggse> I have a GTX 2080 TI if that matters
[18:53] <sarnold> briggse: can you pastebin your errors?
[18:56] <genii> Pretty sure you need at least the 410 or greater version for that
[18:58] <gambl0re> hello?
[19:13] <subcool> if i were to follow this guide. - could i back my HDD, and then uncompress it on a different device and it wouldnt be harmed? I could still boot off the new uncompressed drive?
[19:13] <subcool> https://www.marksanborn.net/howto/make-a-backup-image-of-your-hard-drive-with-dd/
[19:14] <mekhami> If I have an environment variable that contains a string containing some blob of JSON, and I `echo $VAR >> cat.txt` I get a bad substitution error. Is there a way to do this?
[19:14] <sarnold> mekhami: try echo "$VAR" > cat.txt
[19:14] <sarnold> mekhami: oh sorry, echo "$VAR" >>cat.txt
[19:14] <sarnold> ffs
[19:14] <sarnold> I should just stop :)
[19:14] <mekhami> thanks i'll try that.
[19:15] <sarnold> mekhami: oh sorry, echo "$VAR" >> cat.txt
[19:15] <sarnold> the quotes are the important part :)
[19:16] <subcool> nvm, this is a good guide.
[19:16] <subcool> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-backup-linux-os-using-dd-command/
[19:16] <sarnold> subcool: the "different device" bit is a bit complicated -- if the other device is smaller, then you won't be able to write all the data, only part of it, and it probably would have problems as a result
[19:16] <subcool> i kinda get that..
[19:16] <sarnold> subcool: if the other device is larger, you'd have to go to some effort to expand the filesystem once in place
[19:17] <subcool> but- i have a 500gb drive, with only 4gb worth of info. and ill be putting it onto a USB with like 8gb
[19:17] <sarnold> subcool: but yes, it's a pretty decent tool; for example, our arm images are distributed as disk images that you dd directly onto an sd card or whatever, and then it'll magic itself larger on boot or something similar :)
[19:18] <sarnold> subcool: yeah that part works great. I used dd to image a new machine's windows install, compress it from 1tb down to 34gb, and then save it away just in case I ever need to return the computer
[19:18] <subcool> lol. i use to do that with VMs
[19:18] <subcool> but every time i copied it to a new device and tried to use it- complete fault.
[19:19] <subcool> so - im a little mixed about the situation. It might just be easier to just do a simple back up and restore- but-- ugh.... copy paste is soo much easier
[19:21] <sarnold> be careful with copy-paste -- you have to use the names of *your* devices, not the blog post author's devices :)
[19:21] <subcool> Well, i can hear the thing spinning on my dock. SO i should do a backup anyways. lol
[19:21] <sarnold> I assume you know that, but I gotta say it
[19:21] <subcool> ofcourse
[19:21] <subcool> better safe than sorry.
[19:22] <subcool> i mean just doing a copy of hdd1 and pasting it to sdd2
[19:23] <ikarus987> Hi guys, wondering is there a tutorial that guides me on how to install programs onto a server?
[19:23] <ikarus987> i have a server that i am hosting on the internet, i wanna run virtual machines on it for that,  i will need programs
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> ikarus987: Please ask for recommendations in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:31] <ikarus987> i dont see the issue assking it here
[19:31] <ikarus987> how is this off topic?
[19:34] <leftyfb> ikarus987: this is ubuntu support. We're not going to tell you how to build or run a server. Especially one that is publicly accessible
[19:40] <sarnold> ikarus987: hosting services should probably be run by experts, especially if it's just for any random internet weirdo.
[19:43] <pragmaticenigma> ikarus987: As you can see, such a question creates response that are based on opinions. Support is about providing factual information, as well as to troubleshoot and help repair a broken application or operating system. Since you're question is not about fixing or troubleshooting an application, it's considered offtopic.
[20:02] <ikarus987> i work for internet service provider
[20:03] <ikarus987> they game me this machine to play around with it, the company i work is hosting it
[20:03] <ikarus987> gave#
[20:03] <leftyfb> !ot | ikarus987
[20:03] <ikarus987> ok i hope this isn't another off topic question
[20:04] <ikarus987> is there away me and my friend can share terminal? so we see eachothers commands as we type
[20:04] <ikarus987> ?
[20:04] <leftyfb> ikarus987: screen, byobu, tmux
[20:04] <leftyfb> ikarus987: all work locally on the same machine
[20:04] <ikarus987> thx
[20:05] <ioria> ikarus987, you can check 'snap find teleconsole'
[20:53] <devid> hello, i am trying to get better sound quality, i tried this article https://medium.com/@gamunu/enable-high-quality-audio-on-linux-6f16f3fe7e1f but still nowhere near the quality i have in windows. could you help me ?
[21:33] <rapidwave> How long should an unattended upgrade take? I tried to use apt yesterday and it said there was one. I just tried and it still says that.
[21:36] <EriC^^> rapidwave: does "ps aux | grep dpkg" show anything?
[21:37] <rapidwave> Yes, it shows dpkg is running
[22:07] <robot696969> Just install ubuntu, having a problem with dual monitors
[22:08] <robot696969> in login screen, both monitors were detected and naturally extended
[22:08] <robot696969> after login, cant find monitor two
[22:09] <robot696969> One is in HDMI port, one is VGA
[22:44] <kinghat> im trying to find a universal way to see if a list of predefined applications is installed. doing command -v {application} doesnt cut it as i removed firefox and it still shows up in /usr/bin/ and i have brave browser beta but it also shows for brave-browser and brave-browser-beta 🤷‍♂️
[22:52] <leftyfb> kinghat: which <binary>    or type -a <binary>
[22:53] <sixwheeledbeast> dpkg query ?
[22:54] <kinghat> leftyfb: those all have the same issue
[22:54] <leftyfb> kinghat: what issue is that?
[22:56] <kinghat> leftyfb: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/38f7e263/
[22:57] <leftyfb> kinghat: looks like they're working exactly as they should. What is the issue?
[22:58] <kinghat> i only have brave beta and chrome installed
[22:58] <leftyfb> ok?
[22:59] <leftyfb> and both google chrome and brave beta both have multiple ways of calling their browser. I don't see what the issue is from the perspective of the tool used to find if a binary exists on your machine
[23:00] <kinghat> sorry, how can you reliably check for brave-browser and brave-browser-beta when they are both listed? also, im not sure about whats going on with goole-chrome and google-chrome-stable
[23:03] <leftyfb> kinghat: your first question doesn't make sense. As for your 2nd, google chrome creates /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable which is a link to /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome. It also creates /usr/bin/google-chrome which is a link to /etc/alternatives/google-chrome which is a link to /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable
[23:03] <leftyfb> kinghat: you said a "list of predefined applications". Add both binaries to the list. Or choose one
[23:06] <kinghat> wonder why its doing all of that
[23:06] <leftyfb> kinghat: contact google for support with that
[23:06] <kinghat> 😂
[23:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I guess this place is good as any to ask certbot questions
[23:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> update_symlinks does not seem to work when trying to upgrade from certbot 27 to 31
[23:27] <leftyfb> !info certbot
[23:34] <orange27> I was hoping to get some help regarding an issue i am having with a SFP+ PCIE card.
[23:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> leftyfb yeah...?
[23:39] <orange27> So, I have a Trendnet TEG-10GECSFP. And about a month ago, it was running fine without issues and was able to get my 10 Gbps. However, One day it stopped working and I was unable to get it back up and running. I used Ethtool to try and see what mode it was in, and it now just registers the SFP as a Twitsed pair only card and not as the Fiber
[23:39] <orange27> interface it actually is. I have tried to update the driver to no avail and i'm just a bit stuck
[23:44] <studentt> Hello, I have dual boot ubuntu & windows, and want to delete my windows drive and format it for ubuntu use. Can someone help me with this? I think my boot sectors were weird
[23:45] <Bashing-om> studentt: The easy solution: in the installer is " wipe disk and install ubuntu".  Will do just that :D
[23:46] <kinghat> leftyfb: basically reiterating on what you said: https://askubuntu.com/a/675891/868274
[23:47] <studentt> Bashing-om im not sure what u mean? I have ubuntu installed already and dont wish to harm it
[23:47] <jeremy31> I think you can delete the windows partitions from Ubuntu and do a sudo update-grub
[23:47] <studentt> jeremy31 yeah that is what i want to do but unsure how
[23:48] <jeremy31> studentt: EFI installs might still find the windows EFI file but it doesn't really matter.  You might need to use a Live ISO to expand the Ubuntu partition to use the space left
[23:54] <orange27> Can anyone help with a sfp network interface issue?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> !ask | orange27