[00:29] <JohnnyonFlame> Hello, is there any way to get notification alert sounds on Xubuntu 19.10? I've tried turning it on at the "appearance" app and installing ubuntu-sounds, but I still get no sounds when a notification popup appears.
[06:46] <DarkTrick> Hello, I have a "funny" behavior with my keyboard layout. I'm not sure where to post it.
[06:49] <DarkTrick> 1) I have two keyboard layouts set in "Keyboard". 2) I'm using iBus with "Use system keyboard layout" UNchecked. So iBus would use it's own keyboard layout. 3) In VSCode: when I'm typing in the usual editor I have no problem. But (ONLY) shortcuts apparently refer to the layout set up as the first one within the "Keyboard" dialog (which should actually not be used, because iBus uses it's own)
[06:51] <DarkTrick> 4) VSCode -> Shortcut Preferences-> setup shortcut: if I type here, the layout set up in the "Keyboard"-dialog will be used (which makes sense, as the shortcuts themself have the same problem)
[06:51] <DarkTrick> Question: Why would that even possible? Is this an iBus problem? vscode problem? Keyboard-settings problem (xubuntu, I guess)?
[07:26] <rhode> morning
[08:55] <onecalledgaius> Hello, I'm having a very odd issue with my XFCE panel.  Every time I change the settings, it reverts back after a shutdown/restart/logout.  I noticed it initially when I changed the panel transparency, and when I turned on my computer later I noticed that my transparency change had reverted back.  I've tried googling for answers and am a bit
[08:55] <onecalledgaius> stumped, as this doesn't look like a common issue many have had.
[08:56] <brainwash> onecalledgaius: I think I've seen a bug report for that
[08:59] <onecalledgaius> Ah, that's great, at least its not unique. Do you remember where it was reported, like which bug reporting site? Im not sure if it would be on ubuntu, xubuntu, or xfce's site.
[09:00] <brainwash> was looking for it, but here it is
[09:00] <brainwash> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16296
[09:05] <onecalledgaius> Wow thank you, thats certainly the bug im experiencing, you people in here are great, always have the answer.
[09:45] <xubuntu20w> good morning
[09:46] <xubuntu20w> I have a little question
[09:46] <xubuntu20w> somebody in?
[09:49] <xubuntu-nl> hello
[09:51] <xubuntu-nl> I have a question about my desktop. the icons do not use the whole area of the screen. it seems that they  think that the desktop is 2x (double screen solution) 600x800 size in stead of 1024x1280
[09:51] <xubuntu-nl> what can it be?
[09:53] <well_laid_lawn> !resolution
[09:53] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu-nl:             ↑
[10:00] <xubuntu-nl> ubottu: Thank for your reaction. This is not the problem. Maybe I explained it not correct. The screen resolution for both monitors is 1024x1280. I used in past the link that you sent to set them correct.
[10:00] <xubuntu-nl> The problem is that the icons do not use the whole possible area, at under and right site there is space left
[10:01] <xubuntu-nl> The icons use about 600x800
[10:02] <xubuntu-nl> for example the back ground is placed on the whole area of 1024x1280
[10:02] <brainwash> you could see if the debug output has any hints
[10:02] <brainwash> xfdesktop -Q; xfdesktop -e
[10:03] <xubuntu-nl> @brainwash: this are commands for the terminal?
[10:06] <xubuntu-nl> Can is has something to do with the grid size?
[10:06] <xubuntu-nl> DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2733] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): CELL_SIZE=91,800, TEXT_WIDTH=79,800, ICON_SIZE=42DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2734] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): grid size is 10x27DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2747] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): created grid_layout with 270 positions
[10:06] <brainwash> obviously the grid size is relevant
[10:07] <xubuntu-nl> DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2733] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): CELL_SIZE=91,800, TEXT_WIDTH=79,800, ICON_SIZE=42DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2734] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): grid size is 10x27DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2747] xfdesktop_setup_grids(): created grid_layout with 270 positions
[10:07] <xubuntu-nl> ok, how is the grid size defined?
[10:08] <brainwash> it is calculated based on the available work area (screen resolution minus reserved space) and the selected icon size
[10:08] <brainwash> a panel can reserve space
[10:09] <brainwash> you can define margins via Xfce Settings > Workspaces also
[10:10] <brainwash> just tested it though
[10:10] <brainwash> those margins do not affect xfdesktop
[10:12] <xubuntu-nl> probably the calculation is made wrong or based on wrong assumptions
[10:14] <xubuntu-nl> if I change the icon size a larger part of the screen is used
[10:14] <xubuntu-nl> changed from 42 to 60 px
[10:15] <brainwash> could be
[10:16] <brainwash> for me it works fine
[10:16] <xubuntu-nl> hmm, If I use reshuffle desktop icons (I don't know if reshuffle is a correct translation) than there is a bigger part of the screen used
[10:16] <xubuntu-nl> Or better: correct used
[10:17] <brainwash> then... what was the problem to begin with?
[10:17] <brainwash> you were unable to drag icons to down to the bottom part?
[10:17] <brainwash> -to
[10:19] <xubuntu-nl> the problem is that when I start up the computer the icons use not the whole screen
[10:20] <brainwash> something to do with startup then I guess
[10:20] <xubuntu-nl> I guess too (y)
[10:21] <brainwash> is that xubuntu 18.04 or 19.10?
[10:21] <xubuntu-nl> 18.04
[10:23] <brainwash> my suggestion would be to try new Xfce 4.14, but that could be problematic with xubuntu 18.04
[10:23] <brainwash> xubuntu 20.04 will have it
[10:24] <brainwash> !20.04
[10:24] <xubuntu-nl> Ok, maybe that is a good idea
[10:24] <brainwash> for 18.04 there is a PPA, but that is not a clean solution
[10:25] <xubuntu-nl> Ow, I can wait a while till 20.04
[10:25] <brainwash> okay
[10:26] <xubuntu-nl> One question more
[10:27] <xubuntu-nl> if I move an icon I see that the it is saved to a file: /home/USER/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-2518x989.rc
[10:27] <xubuntu-nl> do u know what is does? and how it is used?
[10:29] <brainwash> it stores the icon positions
[10:29] <brainwash> per work area
[10:30] <xubuntu-nl> But is it used when computer start up?
[10:30] <brainwash> yes
[10:31] <xubuntu-nl> ok thanks, have a nice day