[00:01] <orange27> Internet cutout
[00:05] <studentt> jeremy31 i found a 16 usb ubuntu install, would it work for windows removal even though im running 18 LTS right now?
[00:06] <jeremy31> studentt: you just need the ISO to use Gparted to expand the Ubuntu install partition
[00:06] <jeremy31> studentt: the version doesn't matter, you could use a Linux Mint ISO to expand the partition
[00:10] <studenttt> jeremy31ok im in ubuntu installer now, installation type: something else : create resize partitions
[00:12] <studenttt> jeremy31 https://imgur.com/a/NN4Lmte
[00:12] <jeremy31> studenttt: If you want to save anything, that is not the way to do it
[00:13] <studenttt> studenttt I want to save my ubuntu installation but nothing in windows, so what should I do instead?
[00:14] <studenttt> I thought I couldve deleted/resized partitions there without pressing install now
[00:15] <jeremy31> studenttt: boot into installed Ubuntu version, install Gparted, delete Windows partitions, leave any EFI system partition alone
[00:15] <studenttt> ok
[00:17] <jeremy31> studenttt: after deleting Windows partitions, in terminal do>  sudo update-grub
[00:19] <studenttt> jeremy31 so basically all the ntfs file systems? even recovery labeled
[00:19] <jeremy31> studenttt: yes
[00:20] <orange27> Well, If anyone has experience in dealing with issues steaming from the kernel breaking my networking card, please get in touch since it seams most people here are busy
[00:21] <studenttt> jeremy31 https://imgur.com/a/VqMUYzy i delete all those ntfs
[00:22] <jeremy31> studenttt: do it from install
[00:22] <jeremy31> orange27: are you using kernel 5.3.0-40?
[00:23] <studenttt> jeremy31 what do you mean from install? it would allow me to delete with right click there_
[00:23] <studenttt> ?
[00:23] <sarnold> orange27: if you downgrade kernel does your nic work again?
[00:23] <studenttt> jeremy31 I am sorry I am still noob in ubuntu
[00:24] <jeremy31> studenttt: sudo update-grub will not work as easy in Live ISO
[00:24] <orange27> jeremy31 no i am not
[00:24] <orange27> sarnold no, but i am not sure what kernel version i was on before that made it work
[00:24] <studenttt> jeremy31 im currently in my 18 LTS not the live if thats what u mean?
[00:25] <jeremy31> studenttt: then delete those ntfs
[00:25] <orange27> I am currently on 4.15.0-88
[00:26] <studenttt> jeremy31 done
[00:26] <orange27> LTS 18.04.4
[00:26] <sarnold> orange27: /var/log/dpkg.log* files will say when you upgraded which packages, and which versions
[00:27] <jeremy31> studenttt: if you have any issues after trying to reboot, use a Live ISO anf find yannubuntu boot repair
[00:27] <studenttt> jeremy31 https://imgur.com/a/Il6POBG
[00:27] <orange27> sarnold unfortunately, i did a fresh install thinking that would fix it and lost all those logs
[00:28] <sarnold> orange27: oh. bummer.
[00:28] <jeremy31> studenttt: is Ubuntu installed on another hard drive?
[00:29] <studenttt> yeah
[00:29] <Drecondius> anybody know of a way to increase system memory for an intel integrated gpu?
[00:29] <studenttt> jeremy31 but the other drive has some windows stuff too
[00:29] <sarnold> Drecondius: it's usually an entry in the bios or setup
[00:30] <orange27> sarnold unfortunately, i did a fresh install thinking that would fix it and lost all those logs?
[00:30] <sarnold> Drecondius: even after I increased mine I still get warnings lik [drm] Reducing the compressed framebuffer size. This may lead to less power savings than a non-reduced-size. Try to increase stolen memory size if available in BIOS.
[00:30] <Drecondius> no such option on a workstation sadly
[00:30] <orange27> ok, thats not at all what i input into the text box
[00:30] <studenttt> jeremy31 my other drive looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/4l42YQ9
[00:30] <orange27> jeremy31 or sarnold is there a way to upgrade 18.04.4 to 5.3.0-40?
[00:32] <Drecondius> orange27 sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[00:33] <Drecondius> though it may not be exactly what you're looking for
[00:33] <studenttt> jeremy31 how should I proceed?
[00:34] <Drecondius> just did that on my workstation/server and the updated gigabit nic loved me for it, rather, i can actually use it.
[00:36] <sarnold> orange27: hmm, I'm not finding an *easy* way to try out older kernels, but the linux-hwe source package in bionic page on launchpad has links to all the builds https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/linux-hwe  --- maybe if your mirror still has some of the old ones, you could use apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04=versionunmber .. but I've never tried going backwards with kernels this way
[00:37] <Drecondius> windows will still allocate system ram for a gpu, if it needs it, and, i wonder how I can do something similar or exactly the same in linux
[00:37] <orange27> isnt 5.3 a newer version?
[00:37] <Drecondius> over 18.04, yes
[00:37] <Drecondius> it comes with 5.0.xxx
[00:38] <orange27> hmmmm. why was mine only installing 4.15?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> !hwe | orange27
[00:38] <sarnold> orange27: that's the "initial release" kernel for 18.04 LTS
[00:38] <orange27> oh gotcha
[00:38] <sarnold> orange27: the HWE kernels for our LTS releases provide newer kernels rebuild for the LTS releases
[00:39] <orange27> gotcha. that makes sense
[00:39] <orange27> is there a way from install to ge tit to a newer kernel or you just have to do it after the fact?
[00:40] <studenttt> Bashing-om could u possible help with me the rest of the gparted ? trying to get rid of windows from dualboot
[00:40] <sarnold> iirc the server installers give you a choice of which kernel you'd like; I think desktop installers assume you want HWE
[00:40] <Drecondius> no, desktop just uses the packaged kernel, not the hwe enabled stack\
[00:41] <orange27> sarnold, i used the desktop installer and it just pre-installed 4.15
[00:41] <Drecondius> Debian 10 ships with 4.19
[00:41] <Drecondius> 18.04.3 installer?
[00:42] <orange27> Drecondius, 18.04.4 installer
[00:42] <Drecondius> ...
[00:42] <sarnold> orange27: hmm, maybe I've misunderstood our installer then :D
[00:42] <Drecondius> wait, my desktop was 19.10
[00:42] <Drecondius> whoops
[00:43] <orange27> so yeah, not sure there
[00:43] <nooodlesnodes_1> so is keyboard detaching sensed to launch an onscreen keyboard?
[00:43] <sarnold> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2020-February/000254.html -- second and third paragraphs
[00:43] <nooodlesnodes_1> have a "laplet" with a detachable keyboard
[00:46] <studentt> I have windows in dual boot, need advice which filesystems i can safely delete, and how to enable for use to ubuntu https://imgur.com/a/4l42YQ9 https://imgur.com/a/VqMUYzy
[00:47] <studentt> (i want to delete windows)
[00:48] <studentt> without getting rid of ubuntu
[00:48] <Drecondius> includes in the Installer, but not enabled by default, if you run the installer and let the splash with the keyboard logo just go, it defaults to the standard kernel
[00:50] <Drecondius> studentt the safest way is going to be to boot into a live environment and use gparted to wipe the partition and extend your existing filesystem. But, if you muck up and wipe the efi partition, you'll have to go back and reinstall grub.
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> studentt: The internet is really not the place to go for advice like that. only you can decided what is on those drives and what you want to remove. If you don't know which is which, it is better to leave it as it is
[00:51] <Drecondius> that's assuming you are booting via efi configuration
[00:51] <orange27> Now that i have the 5.3 kernel in stalled i am getting this on boot: https://postimg.cc/N2DQ58S9
[00:51] <orange27> and its just going on forever
[00:52] <Drecondius> looks like it's not on quiet anymore
[00:52] <orange27> well, its not booting to the normal login screen.
[00:52] <Bashing-om> studenttt: ^^ Looks to be 2 differner drives. Pastebin the output of terminal command ' sudo parted -l ', So we know what you are working with.
[00:52] <orange27> im at 270 seconds in and its just nothing bu that
[00:53] <Drecondius> gpu?
[00:53] <studentt> Bashing-om: here https://pastebin.com/dgSsPepb
[00:53] <orange27> possibly... but without that GPU i cant see any output because not iGPU
[00:54] <Drecondius> edit grub and add nomodeset
[00:55] <orange27> where would i find the grub file?
[00:55] <Drecondius> hold shift when booting
[00:57] <Bashing-om> studentt: "Linux device-mapper (crypt) (dm)" lets me out as I know nothing of encryption.
[00:57] <Drecondius> orange27 this should help you out : https://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[00:58] <studentt> Bashing-om: thats just swap partition idk why its named like that
[00:58] <studentt> ??
[00:59] <orange27> Drecondius, thanks. rebooting now
[00:59] <Drecondius> that is how the manufacturer or it personell that used it last set it up
[01:00] <Drecondius> errm
[01:01] <Drecondius> studentt that partition layout is how the manufacturer or it personel set it up
[01:01] <Drecondius> I'm referring to the windows setup lol
[01:02] <Bashing-om> studentt: The volume is encrypted - which, why, and where I can not say .. but as encryption is a big ball of hurt; I do not want to hurt your system.
[01:03] <orange27> Drecondius i am getting a bunch of "watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on CPU #"
[01:03] <orange27> would it be beneficial if i just retry my installation?
[01:04] <Drecondius> Bashing-om Unless the actual mbr is encrypted (there is no efi partition in the listing) nuking windows is just going to wipe it out. windows encryption only goes as far as the ntfs partitions
[01:05] <Drecondius> orange27 out of morbid curiosity, does bios report on temps?, the only time I've had that issues was the day my old computer burst into flames (metaphorically))
[01:06] <orange27> yes
[01:07] <Bashing-om> Drecondius: Filed away for future reference, But still not known how that disk(s) encryption might affect ubuntu - would require deeper investigation.
[01:08] <orange27> https://postimg.cc/6TKXkS4M
[01:08] <orange27> here is my grub file
[01:08] <orange27> i know i add he nomodeset stuff after the ro
[01:08] <orange27> but i cant get it to boot still
[01:10] <Drecondius> before you go into that and edit grub, do you have the recovery entry?
[01:10] <orange27> yes
[01:10] <Drecondius> have you tried to boot the recovery mode
[01:10] <orange27> yes, it does the same thing
[01:11] <orange27> lockups
[01:12] <Drecondius> boot live environmet, mount the drive, and check ......  var/log , .... there's somewhere else to check hold a moment
[01:13] <Drecondius> i don't know enough about cat and grep to tell you what to do with what it does
[01:14] <orange27> how would boot live? USB install iso?
[01:15] <Drecondius> usb or cd / dvd if you have the patience for one of those to load
[01:15] <orange27> no option to live boot?
[01:16] <Drecondius> not from an installed system, you need a live usb/cd/dvd to have a working environment to check the system
[01:16] <Drecondius> rather, I do, I'm sure others may have other ways of doing it, but I only know what I've learned lol.
[01:17] <orange27> i did find the install option to just start with the hwe kernel. Should i just try that?
[01:17] <orange27> or do you wanna know the issue
[01:18] <sarnold> hm tough choice
[01:18] <sarnold> getting a good bug report out of this might be nice, but you just wanted to use your computer, a few hours ago..
[01:19] <sarnold> and it's entirely possible that the solution is "yeah, that kernel can't drive that hardware right, use the hwe"... I say just try hwe and see how far you get
[01:19] <orange27> i am going to try and just re install starting with that kernel, and if it still has the same error, illget a live disk up
[01:19] <Church-> sarnold: HWE is what? LTS kernel support without being pegged to whatever kernel was latest in the LTS distro?
[01:19] <Church-> If I'm recalling right
[01:20] <orange27> correct
[01:20] <Drecondius> Yup
[01:20] <sarnold> Church-: yeah; the HWE kernels come from 'newer' releases
[01:20] <Church-> Okay awesome good to know.
[01:20] <Drecondius> updated Kernel and if you choose it, graphics stack
[01:20] <Church-> I'll need to try those out at work
[01:20] <Church-> Since Linode pegs us to whatever kernel they float up through the hypervisor
[01:20] <Church-> And they don't provide kernel headers
[01:20] <Church-> Which is a pain when we need perf and stuff
[01:21] <Church-> And the last kernel I could do for 18.04 was... 4.15 I think when just booting with a generic distro provided kernel
[01:21] <Drecondius> orange27 if you don't have a live usb/cd/etc how are you reinstalling, what are you installing, server?
[01:22] <orange27> i have a ubuntu-serverdesktop installer
[01:22] <Drecondius> ok
[01:23] <sarnold> Church-: no kernel headers? that's a big reduction in what you can run..
[01:27] <orange27> well sarnold, same error
[01:27] <sarnold> :(
[01:27] <orange27> let me make a live image real quickly
[01:27] <Drecondius> something tells me your hardware isn't compatible with that kernel
[01:28] <orange27> its a ryzen 3950x 16 core with 64 GB of ram and a 570x chipset
[01:28] <orange27> if that helps
[01:28] <Drecondius> yeah, it's definately not compatible, not even arch has full compat yet
[01:29] <orange27> dang, so then i guess my only option is just 4.15 and not have working spf card?
[01:29] <orange27> is the incompadibility with the 570x chipset?
[01:29] <Drecondius> I believe there is a workaround somewhere, maybe check the arch wiki
[01:29] <Drecondius> some have gotten it running
[01:30] <orange27> so run arch linux?
[01:30] <orange27> and see if that works?
[01:31] <ducasse> orange27: have you tried a mainline kernel?
[01:31] <orange27> can't say that i have
[01:31] <ducasse> !mainline
[01:32] <orange27> how can i get that into an install?
[01:32] <orange27> do i just need to get into regular 14.04? then try and upgrade to mainline?
[01:33] <ducasse> you need to be able to boot or chroot into your install
[01:33] <sarnold> why 14.04? standard support for that ended a year ago -- was that the last one that worked well?
[01:33] <orange27> sorry 18.04
[01:33] <sarnold> aha, good :)
[01:34] <orange27> ok, so ill just do 18.04.4 with 4.15 then upgrade. give me a moment to get there
[01:34] <ducasse> might also be worth trying a focal daily
[01:35] <orange27> what makes ryzen incompatable?
[01:35] <orange27> out of curiosity?
[01:38] <ducasse> you'll need to ask the kernel team
[01:41] <Drecondius> You'd probably get a clearer answer out of Torvalds
[01:42] <Drecondius> the rest of the team defer to him and he still says what makes it into a kernel release
[01:42] <ducasse> or a ton of abuse
[01:42] <Drecondius> touche`
[01:43] <Drecondius> he's not so hard on newbies than he is people who have been doing it for years though.
[01:43] <orange27> the weirdest thing, was that my NIC was working fine, then one day without any updates to provoke it, it just registered as a standard ethernet NIC (even though its a SFP card)
[01:43] <Drecondius> that sounds like an update to network manager
[01:44] <orange27> maybe....
[01:44] <orange27> ok now to get to mainline
[01:44] <Drecondius> if it was working fine on 4.15 and all you did was accept the update through software ( or apt upgrade alternatively ) it would have been a bug in that as your kernel didn't change
[01:45] <Drecondius> either that or something else that was affecting it.
[01:45] <orange27> yeah, or possibly the card died
[01:45] <Drecondius> tis a possiblity as well.
[01:45] <orange27> do i just need the generic mainline image?
[01:46] <ducasse> use the latest one
[01:47] <orange27> this one? v5.6-rc4/
[01:47] <orange27> it was released yesturday
[01:47] <ducasse> sounds good
[01:47] <Drecondius> ... i've lost my mouse :(
[01:48] <Drecondius> wrong window
[01:48] <orange27> https://postimg.cc/vxGt3wzK
[01:48] <orange27> i just use the generic image... right?
[01:48] <sarnold> yeah
[01:50] <ducasse> grab the generics and the *all.deb
[01:53] <orange27> yep
[01:56] <ducasse> good luck, i need to sleep
[01:58] <orange27> thanks man, I appreciate it
[02:01] <orange27> ill be right back
[02:05] <Drecondius> Welcome Back.
[02:05] <orange2725> huh, it won't let me use the name that i registered....
[02:06] <Drecondius> because  you joined twice and left twice
[02:06] <Drecondius> maybe it's because it didn't kill it properly
[02:06] <orange2725> maybe
[02:06] <orange2725> whatever
[02:06] <orange2725> i'm transfering files no to my server
[02:07] <orange2725> now*
[02:08] <orange27> there we go
[02:08] <Drecondius> I finally got my soon to be retro machine running no thanks to failed installs, finally said to hell with it and installed tasksel and went for the xfce minimal
[02:09] <Drecondius> instead of trying to get enlightenment running
[02:14] <SpoonieLu> i deleted the GPT on my macbook harddrive is there a way i can scan the paritions and rebuild it?
[02:15] <sarnold> yikes
[02:17] <sarnold> SpoonieLu: *maybe* gparted? https://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-attempt-data-rescue  -- though they send you to another tool for tasks with more than four partitions: https://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-recover-partition-table
[02:18] <orange27> i'm surprised it lets you even delete that partition
[02:18] <sarnold> SpoonieLu: at a minimum I think you ought to back up the data that you can on your currently running system before rebooting
[02:18] <sarnold> SpoonieLu: because once you reboot... who knows.
[02:23] <orange27> so Mainline didn't work either
[02:25] <orange27> sarnold: any last ideas?
[02:25] <SpoonieLu> sarnold: good idea but the machine has already been restarted
[02:26] <orange27> its still the sam eerror as the other reboots
[02:26] <orange27> i suspect its just not compatible
[02:26] <SpoonieLu> i used a tool called GPT FDisk to created a hybrid MBR/GPT disk and for some reason it destroyed the GPT header for the mac partition
[02:27] <orange27> could trying 19.10 do anything?
[02:28] <sarnold> orange27: it's worth a try, as is trying a 20.04 daily
[02:29] <orange27> k brb
[02:29] <sarnold> the daily's are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[02:29] <sarnold> (though I've heard there's a bug with plymouth or something at boot on recent focal; I haven't updated in a week give or take..)
[02:30] <sarnold> SpoonieLu: dang. if you can't get the partition table back through gparted or the other tool its manual suggests, and you need to do data recovery, take a look at this http://www.sleuthkit.org/
[02:39] <robertparkerx> I had a crontab set awhile ago in sync with my certbot. I had to reissue certs because I got a email about it because of something that happened (not by me but them, some notice). How do I reset the crontab to start from today?
[02:41] <robertparkerx> Do I just make changes to it and reset it back?
[02:43] <SpoonieLu> i deleted/corrupted my GPT header using GPT fdisk, trying to create a hybrid GPT/MBR, is there a way i can scan the partitions and recreate the GPT header?
[02:48] <orange27> so, 19.10 wont even get to the installer page before a lockup
[02:50] <sarnold> robertparkerx: maybe change it to run every minute with * * * * *  or however many asterisks are needed, and then once you've got a new cert, change it back?
[02:50] <sarnold> orange27: :(
[02:51] <orange27> ok, well i guess ill try getting a new card for the server and return the old one and maybe see if that fixes things
[02:51] <orange27> because, i think it has to be a card thing and not a ubuntu problem
[02:51] <sarnold> it might be worth trying out a centos or suse or something, to try to isolate if ubuntu is even involved
[02:52] <sarnold> heh yeah
[02:52] <orange27> i was also thinking centos. maybe ill try that and go from there. thanks for all your help!
[02:52] <orange27> if i have any more issues i'll just pop back here
[02:54] <sarnold> good luck :)
[02:54] <sarnold> and just like that, a lucky bunny arrives :)
[03:19] <SpoonieLu> i deleted/corrupted my GPT header using GPT fdisk, trying to create a hybrid GPT/MBR, is there a way i can scan the partitions and recreate the GPT header?
[03:23] <leftyfb> SpoonieLu: you're better off at this point just reinstalling and restoring from backup
[03:24] <sarnold> yeah if you haven't had any luck with gparted, that's probably best
[03:27] <lapsang> Hello, I just found out there's such a thing as an Ubuntu capable phone, and several of them.   Any channels to suggest?
[03:29] <leftyfb> lapsang: #ubports
[03:29] <lapsang> tyvm
[03:38] <HeliNomad> Hey dudes
[03:39] <HeliNomad> Can someone help me with a silly cifs mount issue
[03:40] <HeliNomad> I'm trying to mount a sharepoint on my Ubuntu Server 18.x LTS from a Mac hosting a simple share via CIFS/SMB
[03:41] <HeliNomad> Using this code:  sudo mount -t cifs -o username=username //192.168.1.2/ShareVolume ~/ShareLoc/
[03:41] <HeliNomad> ls
[03:42] <HeliNomad> I get this response:  mount error(13): Permission denied
[03:42] <HeliNomad> I know the password is correct.
[03:53] <Asas> hi
[03:55] <HeliNomad> Hey
[03:57] <HeliNomad> What's up Asas
[03:58] <SpoonieLu> leftyfb: i do not have a backup it is a friends drive with his university disertation on. i really want to help him
[04:16] <HeliNomad> How do you get support on here?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje_> !ask | HeliNomad
[04:18] <HeliNomad> cool yes did that
[04:19] <HeliNomad> But there wasn't any responce
[04:19] <lotuspsychje_> HeliNomad: then patient a bit, until volunteers respond
[04:20] <SpoonieLu> can someone type a message with my name in so i can test something
[04:21] <kbrosnan> it is a fairly specific question, might not be anyone with cifs experience active. You can either idle and hope someone sees your question or you can try a format like the Ubuntu Forums or Ubuntu Questions
[04:21] <Bashing-om> !test | SpoonieLu
[04:23] <HeliNomad> ok thanks kbrosnan
[04:24] <HeliNomad> Sorry I just though it was something that everyone would do
[04:28] <SpoonieLu> Bashing-om: thanks i will remember the !test command
[04:30] <Bashing-om> SpoonieLu: There is also the #test channel.
[04:37] <SpoonieLu> Bashing-om: thanks i will use that from now on
[04:44] <Croran> How can I find out which package provides /usr/bin/java ?
[04:49] <rigved> Croran: sudo dpkg -S /usr/bin/java
[04:54] <Croran> rigved: tried that already
[04:54] <Croran> I get "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/java"
[04:56] <rigved> Croran: What do you get when you run "ls -Ahl /usr/bin/java" ?
[04:56] <rigved> Is it showin up as a symlink?
[04:56] <Bashing-om> !info java bionic | rigved
[04:56] <Croran> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Apr 23  2019 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[04:57] <rigved> Croran: And again "ls -Ahl /etc/alternatives/java"?
[04:57] <Croran> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 Apr 23  2019 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
[04:57] <rigved> Bashing-om: If it's installed from a package from any repository, it'll show up in dpkg.
[04:58] <rigved> Croran: sudo dpkg -S /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
[04:58] <Croran> rigved: thanks
[04:58] <Croran> openjdk-11-jre-headless:amd64: /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
[04:58] <Croran> so, where does the symlink come from?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> rigved: While ^ true - but only if apt has a track on it :D
[04:59] <rigved> Croran: It comes from update-alternatives command.
[04:59] <rigved> Bashing-om: Ah yes true that. :)
[05:00] <tomreyn> short generic variant:     FILE=/usr/bin/java; dpkg -S $(readlink -f $FILE) | cut -d: -f1
[05:00] <Croran> interesting. i just ran 'update-alternatives --get-selections'
[05:00] <Croran> that's a lot of alternatives.
[05:01] <Croran> tomreyn: I don't think that works if the file is a symlink to a symlink.
[05:02] <tomreyn> Croran: works for me
[05:03] <Croran> tomreyn: you're right. looks like the -f resolves it down to the real file.
[05:03] <rigved> tomreyn: Nice
[05:04] <Croran> thanks rigved and tomreyn
[05:04] <tomreyn> you're welcome :)
[05:04] <rigved> Croran: Welcome :)
[05:12] <amosbird> Hello, can I use my gpg key to unlock gnome-keyring instead of a master password?
[05:15] <SpoonieLu> !test SpoonieLu
[05:15] <kinghat> if i want to put a binary application on my system, TOR in this case, where would be the ideal dir? i know i would put the shortcut in: ~/.local/share/applications/TOR.desktop.
[05:16] <SpoonieLu> !test | SpoonieLu
[05:16] <SpoonieLu> !test | SpoonieLu
[05:17] <Croran> kinghat: does the TOR tarball have a 'make install'? If so, you should be able to use it to create a .deb package with checkinstall.
[05:18] <Croran> kinghat: that will give you the ability to uninstall cleanly when you want to install a new version or whatever.
[05:18] <kinghat> well it self updates
[05:18] <kinghat> but i dont see a make file
[05:18] <Croran> kinghat: it has a INSTALL file or a README file documenting the install process?
[05:21] <kinghat> negative
[05:21] <Croran> kinghat: I would suggest the only place you should put it is in your /home somewhere. Otherwise you're cluttering up your system folders with untracked junk.
[05:22] <Croran> kinghat: /home/kinghat/TOR or /home/kinghat/.TOR if you don't want to always see it in your file browser
[05:22] <kinghat> there is this, but i dont think they say anywhere on their site that they have an apt repo: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-tor-browser-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[05:23] <kinghat> ah. i show hidden files always 😁
[05:23] <Croran> kinghat: huh. well that guy thinks they have a repo. it's worth trying.
[05:24] <AlexAnarcho_> hey guys, how yall doing!
[05:24] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: I'm doing well. How are you? :)
[05:24] <kinghat> this was just off the top of my head, but what about any other app thats just a random binary?
[05:24] <AlexAnarcho_> i have a question about the suspension mode in ubuntu 18.04 LTS with kernel 5.3.0 generic...
[05:25] <kinghat> well not random, but not a deb or installed via a package manager.
[05:25] <Croran> kinghat: most applications you get like that will have their own install script
[05:25] <AlexAnarcho_> ... when i enter suspend mode my damn screen will not turn on again, it is simply black. i have to shut down the system and boot it back up. have tried various things including switching to lightdm
[05:25] <Croran> kinghat: they will say as the last step of install 'sudo make install'
[05:27] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: did it work with an older kernel?
[05:27] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, yes
[05:27] <AlexAnarcho_> i was on 5.0.0 before
[05:27] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: laptop?
[05:28] <AlexAnarcho_> yes
[05:28] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: have you googled for 'ubuntu suspend blank <your laptop model>'
[05:29] <AlexAnarcho_> yeah, also am in contact with the manufacturer, since they are a linux first company. have not yet heard back from them yet, so i thought i might ask here. from what my peers tell me, suspend mode is a loaded topic for linux...
[05:30] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: I would suggest laptops are a loaded topic for anyone who cares about open standards.
[05:30] <AlexAnarcho_> its not the end of the world, since i can simply leave it on.. but, i was wondering if there is a config file, like grub or something that influences the waking of the screen
[05:30] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, true that!
[05:31] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: sorry I'm not much help. maybe try some kernel switches? noapic or acpi=off or nomodeset
[05:36] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, do you know if i may run into issues if i downgrade again to a lower kernel?
[05:36] <AlexAnarcho_> programms not running properly, drivers malfunctioning and such
[05:37] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: If you have really new hardware, it may require a somewhat recent kernel. I wouldn't expect any issues specifically with programs, as long as the kernel runs your hardware correctly.
[05:37] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: it's easy enough to install multiple kernels and switch between them in grub to test
[05:46] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, I have tried selecting the old kernel on boot with shift press, but laptop would not boot properly, any ideas? will try again soon
[05:47] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: you were able to successfully open the grub menu and select the old kernel, but then it didn't boot after that?
[05:54] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, yes exactly
[05:55] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: and that was 5.0.0 that worked fine before?
[06:13] <AlexAnarcho_> @Croran, yep
[06:13] <AlexAnarcho_> brb, gonna try it out
[06:14] <Croran> AlexAnarcho_: ok. keep in mind you have to hit ctrl-x to actually boot with any kernel command line changes you make in grub. If you make any.
[06:28] <AlexAnarcho> @Croran, hey, back again - here is the funny thing: i was successful to boot into 5.0.0 by doing a recovery mode boot and then resume normal boot from there (direct normal boot resulted in a black screen with simple blinking "_" in the upper left corner). when i tried the suspend mode in 5.0.0 i had the same issue as 5.3.0 - which leads me to believe that it is not a kernel issue after all. any thoughts
[06:29] <AlexAnarcho> also already tried a different graphics driver, but that does not solve anything either.
[07:28] <gambl0re> anyone here familiar with samba?
[07:29] <gambl0re> im getting a permission denied when trying to write to the shared folder
[07:33] <Croran> AlexAnarcho: can you boot to an ubuntu 18.04.2 live disc/usb drive and try suspend from there?
[07:34] <Croran> or... whatever the latest is 18.04.4 I guess
[07:34] <Croran> gambl0re: I am.
[07:34] <Croran> gambl0re: are you sharing to a Windows machine?
[07:35] <gambl0re> Croran: no i wanted to share linux to linux
[07:36] <gambl0re> i can access the shared folder but i cant write to it
[07:36] <gambl0re> in my smb.conf i have writeable = yes
[07:36] <Croran> gambl0re: what are you using to access it? nautilus?
[07:36] <gambl0re> yea
[07:36] <gambl0re> through the folder
[07:36] <Croran> gambl0re: does your user name match on each machine?
[07:37] <gambl0re> um what do you mean
[07:37] <Croran> gambl0re: your user name. when you log in.
[07:37] <gambl0re> yea i can login fine
[07:37] <Croran> gambl0re: ...
[07:37] <gambl0re> i just cant write
[07:37] <Croran> gambl0re: do you use the same user name on each machine?
[07:38] <gambl0re> i dont think so
[07:38] <Croran> gambl0re: that's the common issue with using samba shares from Windows. I haven't done much with samba linux-to-linux.
[07:39] <Croran> gambl0re: try it with smbclient and see if it works that way.
[07:40] <Croran> gambl0re: and make sure you specify the username for the host with the share you're trying to write to with --user=<username>
[07:42] <neteffect> hi i have some old equipment and my 2nd monitor is connected with vga.  max resolution i get is 1024x768
[07:43] <Croran> gambl0re: also make sure you've set your samba passwords with smbpasswd
[07:44] <gambl0re> Croran: i did that
[07:44] <stdedos> Hello there! My 16.04 system froze beyond rescuing yesterday (not even Ctrl+Alt+Fx worked), and I had to forcefully restart. I am trying to investigate what went wrong
[07:44] <gambl0re> i think it has something to do with my samba config file but everything looks right
[07:45] <stdedos>  /usr/bin/time strace journalctl --list-boots gives me this https://privatebin.net/?a1f2e051cb4ed253#GxHUC5oKXJkzVBSTZ7QoR4KtiHP7W3pR2wGP3chdsyen
[07:46] <gambl0re> https://termbin.com/27hz
[07:46] <manornk> Hi, how to change in all files in folder and subfolders with sed or something "/excel/" to "/bilb/trunk/excel/"
[07:49] <geirha> Using vim:   :argdo %s,/excel/,/bilb/trunk&,gc
[07:50] <manornk> I have 111 times in code, in all subfolders and not just one file.
[07:50] <zhaokun> help
[07:51] <geirha> git grep -zl /excel/ | xargs -0 vim
[07:52] <geirha> that'll open all the files containing that string, and the :argdo above runs through and replaces them in all those files
[07:52] <geirha> most semi-advanced editors have similar search and replace features
[07:53] <Boohbah> Will that open a new vim process for each match?
[07:54] <geirha> no, it will pass as many files as will fit to a single vim
[07:54] <geirha> then run more vim-instances if there are more filenames
[08:03] <elibrokeit> geirha: what if sed is my semi-advanced editor
[08:06] <geirha> sed is strictly not a file editor, which has some edge cases, but otherwise that'll work too. I like vim's confirm feature though
[08:06] <eoli3n> Hi
[08:06] <eoli3n> how to prevent a package from being installed in any ways ?
[08:07] <eoli3n> i want to remove avahi daemon
[08:12] <ducasse> eoli3n: you could create an empty dummy package and hold it, so it won't be upgraded
[08:17] <Norux> I changed my nvidia driver and now I get a blackscreen, how can I change the driver from a live usb? `nvidia-settings` doesn't work
[08:19] <ducasse> Norux: did you try booting with nomodeset?
[08:22] <Norux> ducasse: no, I add it to `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT` in `/etc/default/grub` right?
[08:22] <ducasse> !nomodeset | Norux
[08:24] <Norux> ducasse: ok I'll try that
[08:24] <scx> Is there any equivalent for "snapcraft cleanbuild" in core18?
[08:45] <neteffect> hi do i have to install any drivers for my laptops video card?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje_> neteffect: sudo lshw -C video to find out
[08:48] <neteffect> k
[08:50] <neteffect> k it does say "driver=radeon" so looks good
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> great neteffect
[08:51] <neteffect> thanks
[09:24] <bubblefoo> hi pragmaticenigma,still not possible to delete the unused kernels.should i just delete them?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: can you pastebin your apt errors please?
[09:26] <bubblefoo> ok
[09:28] <bubblefoo> as recommended by paragmaticenigma i typed sudo apt autoremove and the output was https://pastebin.com/C5rKyCbs
[09:29] <Ool> you can try apt clean too
[09:29] <bubblefoo> tried it but getting zero output
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: pastebin: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[09:31] <stdedos> Hello there! My 16.04 system froze beyond rescuing yesterday (not even Ctrl+Alt+Fx worked), and I had to forcefully restart. I am trying to investigate what went wrong
[09:31] <stdedos>  /usr/bin/time strace journalctl --list-boots gives me this https://privatebin.net/?a1f2e051cb4ed253#GxHUC5oKXJkzVBSTZ7QoR4KtiHP7W3pR2wGP3chdsyen
[09:32] <bubblefoo> lotuspsychje,output is https://pastebin.com/f5Cmnr88
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: oof, have you been testing things around with installing !mainline kernels?
[09:35] <bubblefoo> i just installed the kernels suggested by the system
[09:35] <bubblefoo> something wrong with it?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: your paste shows other kernels too, 5.4 and 5.5 kernels?
[09:38] <bubblefoo> as i said i installed every suggested kernel upgrade.whats wrong with it?
[09:39] <bubblefoo> why shouldnt i do an kernel upgrade if ubuntu is releasing it?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: you are on 18.04 correct?
[09:45] <RikMills> !mainline
[09:45] <RikMills> "These kernels are not supported and are not appropriate for production use."
[09:46] <parrotlover> How can I make a headless system lauch and keep running a DE with vnc access?
[09:46] <parrotlover> It's not on the internet so the risk of vnc always being open is not an issue
[09:46] <bubblefoo> yes ,on 18.04
[09:46] <parrotlover> I need a GUI over vnc, and I don't like using vnc4server + x11vnc adhoc as I want a soultion that requires no shell access
[09:47] <bubblefoo> "!maimline" what does that mean?
[09:47] <bubblefoo> ...!mainline i should say
[09:47] <parrotlover> mainline is the upstream official build or setup
[09:48] <parrotlover> So, mainline would be the main project in the category in question that all other forks depend on for updates and fixes and maintenance
[09:48] <bubblefoo> should they be installed by regular user or not?
[09:48] <parrotlover> What specific thing are you asking to install as reguler user?
[09:51] <bubblefoo> by the comments i am getting by having installed each and every kernel suggested by the systemit seems,being a regualar user,it seems to be a problem to install mainlinekernels.so why shoulndt i install them?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: you are the owner of your system...you should know if you installed kernels manual or not?
[09:51] <RikMills> no, mainline kernel builds are unsupported.
[09:52] <bubblefoo> i got a notification that a new kernel is ready to install,so i started ukuu and installed it.but we are getting away from the question i initially asked:is it ok to just delete the unused kernels
[09:53] <RikMills> bubblefoo: a normal system will not suggest upgrading to the mainline builds. that would only happen if you have deliberately installed some other tool to make them available
[09:54] <bubblefoo> another question now is which kernelupdatenotification should i implement and which ignore,since it seems to be a problem to install every kernel that ubuntu suggests
[09:56] <bubblefoo> i installed ukuu.i got notifications  about new kernels.i got asked if i want to upgrade.i upgraded.so what is the problem?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> bubblefoo: ok, you can stop trolling now
[09:57] <bubblefoo> my kernel upgrades were always responses to kernelupgradenotifications
[10:07] <Rumen> hello
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> welcome Rumen
[10:07] <Rumen> thanks
[10:07] <Rumen> guys a got strange problem
[10:07] <Rumen> I installed Java 13
[10:07] <Rumen> but I got error now
[10:08] <Rumen> dpkg: warning files list file for package 'oracle-java8-installer' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed
[10:08] <Rumen> error appear when Ubuntu try to upgrade / update some packages and the problem comes with MySQL
[10:08] <Rumen> I got MySQL8
[10:09] <Rumen> but got error there as well
[10:09] <Rumen> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-cluster-community-server-core_8.0.19-1ubuntu18.04_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[10:10] <Rumen> Error /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-cluster-community-server-core_8.0.19-1ubuntu18.04_amd64.deb
[10:10] <Rumen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:11] <Rumen> but MySQL is installed and working fine ...
[10:11] <Rumen> what's the problem then?
[10:12] <mort> how do I make ubuntu-bug let me create an actual bug report on launchpad? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs indicates that I want to comment out "'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package']," from /etc/apport/crashdb.conf, but crashdb.conf doesn't have a line which looks like that
[10:12] <Rumen> my Java -version is java version "13.0.2" 2020-01-14
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> mort: from a terminal: ubuntu-bug packagename
[10:45] <stdedos> Hello there! My 16.04 system froze beyond rescuing yesterday (not even Ctrl+Alt+Fx worked), and I had to forcefully restart. I am trying to investigate what went wrong /usr/bin/time strace journalctl --list-boots gives me this https://privatebin.net/?1ac25cd84044d884#9GHTLRWZcdu6dRSGNnhYdxt9XJCKhHcJYLJxMvRF2NJM
[10:47] <Night_Elf> Hello all. Does anyone know whether the "HPE Ethernet 10Gb 2-port 562SFP+ Adapter" works in Ubuntu Server 18.04 ? Anywhere I can find some info about this?
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | Night_Elf start here
[10:48] <Night_Elf> oh. Will check that. Thanks lotuspsychje
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> Night_Elf: is this what you are after: https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/component/103c:22fd/8086:1572
[11:00] <stevecam> im just transfering my old M.2 SSS to NVMe with dd, "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/nvme0n1", my NVMe is bigger, should this just work out of the box like this?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !info clonezilla | stevecam
[11:01] <stevecam> so dd will not work?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> stevecam: dd will probably takeover the size of your first ssd, leaving space free on your bigegr one
[11:02] <stevecam> im ok with that i just want it to boot for now
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> stevecam: if youre fine with that sure, dd can clone
[11:03] <Night_Elf> lotuspsychje: yes. It seems that the HPE adapter uses the intel X710 chipset. So that's the one indeed
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> great Night_Elf seems like kernel takes care of it
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> 4.15
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> stevecam: you might add bs= speed & progress
[11:05] <Night_Elf> that's really good news. Because you know, screw HPE, with a big huge baseball bat. They claim that they need to install either RH or SUSE on the servers we're about to get, in order for the hardware to be sure that it works.
[11:05] <lotus|NUC> stevecam: status=progress bs=4M for example
[11:06] <Night_Elf> So they still want some registration and support money on top of the several tens of thousands of dollars for all the 4 servers
[11:07] <stevecam> oh i just had trouble booting last time i just figured i may of did something wrong
[11:10] <EriC^^> stevecam: are you putting the clone on the same pc or a different one while testing booting?
[11:10] <stevecam> same
[11:11] <EriC^^> stevecam: uefi or legacy?
[11:11] <stevecam> i am sure its uefi
[11:11] <stevecam> but there is no EFI partition
[11:12] <EriC^^> can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' ?
[11:47] <stevecam> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/MtPxM1LS
[11:50] <stevecam> well, as it turns out i have made a backup of the wrong disk, thank you for your help
[11:50] <oerheks> :-)
[11:58] <stevecam> i cant believe i just wasted a whole day trying to restore a backup of something that doesnt even boot
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:21] <togo> How can it be - I use Linux and open source libreoffice but everywhere I find the word 'permaculture' is still not known and accepted in the spell checker libraries? Its probably nearly 50 years old ...
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> togo: you can join #libreoffice to ask or you can file a !bug
[12:32] <Rockwood> hi any active?
[12:32] <Rockwood> google gnome-shell high ram usage and CPU
[12:32] <Rockwood> gnome-shell high ram usage and CPU
[12:32] <Rockwood> how can i make it normal
[12:35] <Rockwood> it's freezing my laptop
[12:35] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gCr9Q2mnYY/
[12:43] <littlebit1> hi people, is there a way to setup a receipt printer under ubuntu?
[12:52] <littlebit1> exit
[12:54] <nwoob> when login to a linux server is by password when I do sftp command, is it possible to automate sftp file transfer?
[12:55] <nwoob> I mean PasswordAuthentication is set to yes
[12:57] <nwoob> when login to a linux server is by password when I do sftp command, is it possible to automate sftp file transfer?
[12:57] <nwoob> I mean PasswordAuthentication is set to yes
[13:08] <Ool> nwoob: sftp is ssh. To automate it you need to use SSH key
[13:13] <stdedos> Hello there! My 16.04 system froze beyond rescuing yesterday (not even Ctrl+Alt+Fx worked), and I had to forcefully restart. I am trying to investigate what went wrong /usr/bin/time strace journalctl --list-boots gives me this https://privatebin.net/?1ac25cd84044d884#9GHTLRWZcdu6dRSGNnhYdxt9XJCKhHcJYLJxMvRF2NJM
[13:20] <pirla> Hello everyone. I have a HP Pavillion dv6500, I'd like to test modem, but I'm using XUbuntu and I can't install kppp for some reason. What could I do?
[13:20] <rypervenche> stdedos: Not answering your question there, but for future reference, if you can't restart your machine, before you try to do it forcefully, try a REISUB: http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[13:22] <stdedos> Good one, thanks! I forgot it
[13:29] <Rockwood> any active?
[13:31] <pirla> Hello everyone. I have a HP Pavillion dv6500, I'd like to test if modem works, but I can't install kppp as I did in the past, because XUbuntu don't find the package
[13:32] <pirla> It's either a Motorola or an HDAudio
[13:35] <pirla> lspci and lsusb doesn't show it by the way
[13:35] <leftyfb> pirla: kppp is part of the universe repository
[13:35] <leftyfb> !universe | pirla
[13:39] <pirla> It seems using universe it's not recommended. Is it there some other way to query modem?
[13:39] <leftyfb> pirla: there's no problem with enabling universe
[13:40] <pirla> U sure? How can I do?
[13:40] <pirla> I don't have the Universe entry in software repo manage
[13:41] <leftyfb> sudo add-apt-respository universe
[13:41] <pirla> It tells me it's already active
[13:42] <pirla> but no kppp
[13:44] <EriC^^> pirla: did you sudo apt-get update after adding it?
[13:44] <EriC^^> !info kppp bionic
[13:44] <pirla> Gosh! I'm so tired...
[13:44] <pirla> I just did
[13:44] <ioria> pirla, you're on 19.10 eoan ?
[13:44] <pirla> yep
[13:44] <EriC^^> pirla: so it works now?
[13:44] <pirla> XUbuntu
[13:45] <pirla> no
[13:45] <mgedmin> iirc newer versions of add-apt-repository run apt-get update automatically
[13:45] <EriC^^> !info kppp eoan
[13:45] <ioria> !info kppp eoan
[13:45] <ioria> !info gnome-ppp eoan
[13:45] <ioria> pirla, seems they are removed
[13:45] <pirla> I see, thanks iora
[13:45] <pirla> *ioria
[13:46] <JimBuntu> If pirla simply wants to test the modem, minicom might be an option.
[13:46] <ioria> pirla, we are talking about a 56k dialup modem right ?
[13:46] <pirla> yes
[13:46] <ioria> pirla, it wont be easy anyways
[13:48] <ioria> pirla, probably the problem is the module not the connection setup: paste lspci -nnk (lspci -nnk | termbin.com 9999)
[13:48] <ioria> pirla, lspci -nnk |  nc termbin.com 9999
[13:49] <mgedmin> I wonder if ModemManager supports old-style dialup
[13:49] <pirla> https://termbin.com/v6eg
[13:49] <ioria> the last i did it, i needed external packages that i don't recall
[13:52] <ioria> pirla, where do you see the modem ? in lsusb maybe ?
[13:53] <pirla> No, I'm sure it's a Motorola or an HDAudio because I read so in the specs, but I don't see it neither in lspci nor lsusb
[13:54] <ioria> pirla,   sudo lshw -c Network  |  nc termbin.com 9999
[13:54] <pirla> https://termbin.com/tu5v
[13:54] <mgedmin> HDAudio sounds like it could be a winmodem; I don't think those were ever supported in Linux
[13:55] <pirla> Ah, ok...
[13:55] <pirla> It's a WinModem of course, but some can be used in L
[13:55] <ioria> pirla,  no trace, check the bios (maybe disabled)
[13:55] <pirla> Ok, Trying. BRB
[13:59] <pirla> No, it wasn't
[14:01] <pirla> MayBe this could help: https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=947ef49455
[14:37] <physiology> lspci -nn -d ::0200 shows that I have an Intel network card, however 'ifconfig' only shows lo.  What do you think is the problem?  I have lights on the card.
[14:39] <MikeRL> Finally should be fixed with the nickname issues.
[14:39] <MikeRL> https://del.dog/towemeninu.go
[14:40] <MikeRL> Posted previously to unregistered channel. Will repost here.
[14:41] <MikeRL> I am running into libc6 issues on eoan after some broken updates made there way through. Not through backports, but through an official updates source. Running "sudo apt --fix-broken install" does not resolve the issue.
[14:42] <MikeRL> Removing these packages would take a ton of packages I use away with them. Another side effect of the broke update is Firefox is broken. Luckily I have Vivaldi and Brave installed as well.
[14:42] <mgedmin> physiology: try ifconfig -a (or the modern alternative: ip link)
[14:43] <MikeRL> Luckily I do backup my system normally with GNOME Disks weekly, but the process will repeat if I restore and attempt to install those packages. Is there a simpler, less time consuming solution?
[14:44] <physiology> mgedmin: Both show only the lo interface
[15:00] <physiology> I think that this might be a driver issue.  Would the driver for a network interface be on the original Ubuntu installation CD?
[15:06] <pirla> Sorry, I were busy
[15:07] <pirla> I'd like to test IR too, what should I do? My laptop comes with a remote, I'd like to use it
[15:09] <vlt> Hello. Does anyone know what a user of a "MacBook-Pro-2" needs to boot an Ubuntu live USB? Something something virtualization?
[15:20] <jeremy31> physiology: what Ubuntu version
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> !mac | vlt
[15:20] <physiology> 16.04 jeremy31
[15:20] <jeremy31> physiology: did it work during install
[15:21] <physiology> jeremy31: This is a fresh install.
[15:22] <jeremy31> physiology: you may need to search for the numbers in the brackets from lspci [8086:????]
[15:23] <physiology> jeremy31: The card does show up with lspci, just not ifconfig.  Nor is it in /etc/network/interfaces.
[15:23] <pirla> Sorry, connection lost
[15:23] <pirla> How can I test irda?
[15:24] <pirla> I'm in XUbuntu
[15:25] <jeremy31> physiology: if you search for the numbers in the brackets you may find what kernel might support it
[15:26] <physiology> jeremy31: I don't understand.  I will need to change kernels?
[15:28] <pirla> Anyone?
[15:31] <pirla> Please
[15:33] <sub526> Hi all, I have an Ubuntu machine, in that I'm not able to install any deb packages.. I'm getting "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem".. How to solve this error?
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | pirla
[15:34] <pirla> pragmaticenigma: sorry
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> sub526: Did you run the command it suggested you run?
[15:35] <sub526> pragmaticenigma: yes. Actually I connected to machine via remote ssh. When I ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' , ssh connection gets lost..
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: If the remote is IR, I believe you will require the use or LIRC..Use that as a search query for connecing up an infared remote. Another resource that might be better suited to your needs is the ##linux and/or the ##hardware channels.
[15:36] <Rockwood> https://ibb.co/RvgGTSd
[15:36] <pirla> BRB
[15:36] <Rockwood> Ubuntu 19.10 server edition gnome-shell high CPU usage
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> sub526: It sounds like you will need physical access to the machine to repair it
[15:37] <sub526> pragmaticenigma: okay, apart from 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' , any other steps needed to repair it?
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> sub526: That is the only thing you can do at this time to repair the machine... there are no workaround
[15:39] <sub526> pragmaticenigma: okay thanks for your help.. That machine is in the next floor, i will go and trigger that command..
[15:39] <pirla> I just installed lirc, but no menu entry (I installed lirc-x)
[15:39] <MikeRL> Had a problem with libc6 related packages on eoan. The terminal output didn't fix it. I disconnected because I thought an early eoan upgrade would sidestep the broken packages. No dice.
[15:40] <MikeRL> What do I do? Several broken packages. Can't seem to fix them.
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: lirc is a set of libraries... you will have to find a program that uses lirc. Such recommendations are out of scope for this channel. I would recommend you ask in the channels I suggested earlier
[15:40] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Thanks!
[15:40] <pirla> No, I found: lirc-setup
[15:40] <MikeRL> I'm also curious if there's a bug report on it. The packages are from eoan-updates.
[15:40] <physiology> Where are device drivers located in the boot CD?
[15:42] <pirla> I need the driver. Could it be in some firmware package?
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> physiology: There are no "drivers" that you can manually install from the boot cd. The same environment that is on your machine now, was copied from the boot disk. If what you require isn't on your machine now, it wasn't on the boot cd to begin with
[15:43] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: Please, ask in those other channels. I have no further idea on how to assist you
[15:43] <Rockwood> top | pastebinit
[15:43] <Rockwood>   stuck
[15:43] <pirla> Ok, sorry
[15:43] <Rockwood> help me plz
[15:49] <oerheks> Rockwood, so you pasted a windows thingy, and virtualbox is high?
[15:57] <Rockwood> oerheks, yes
[15:57] <physiology> pragmaticenigma: What do you think could be the issue?  Only the 'lo' interface shows on a fresh install of 16.04.
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> physiology: Is there a particular reason you are installing such an old version of Ubuntu? 16.04 is end-of-life next year. Why don't you start with 18.04 instead?
[15:58] <kaddi> i just did a do-relaese-upgrade on my 18.04 and it is trying to upgrade me to focal. Is that already release? If not how stbale is it?
[15:59] <kaddi> I was expecting it to upgrade to 18.10 or 19.10
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> kaddi: You configured you machine to be on developement track...
[16:00] <leftyfb> kaddi: or specified "do-release-upgrade -d"
[16:00] <MikeRL> or maybe he entered an argument for the dev build
[16:00] <physiology> pragmaticenigma: We are deliberately testing with it, otherwise I hear you loud and clear.
[16:00] <MikeRL> Darn typing on a phone.
[16:01] <kaddi> pragmaticenigma: ah, I guess I read the -d differently than it was meant. I figured it wouldn't put me on development since I'm clearly not using the latest version.
[16:01] <MikeRL> Random question - do posts get buried on IRC easily? Should I repost every so often or just wait?
[16:02] <leftyfb> kaddi: development version = version not released/not stable
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> physiology: If it was me, I would install a network card (or USB one) temporarily to get updates installed and see if  once the machine is fully up-to-date the drivers appear. If not, you can then enable !hwe and see if that gets the kernel to recognize your network card
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | MikeRL
[16:03] <kaddi> leftyfb: the -d option says that it'll offer a development version IF you're already using the latest version. I'm not using the latest version, so I did not expect it to offer me a development version
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> kaddi: You are using the latest version of LTS
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> kaddi: 20.04 is the next development LTS release
[16:03] <kaddi> ahhhh
[16:04] <kaddi> suddenly things make sense
[16:04] <kaddi> thanks, think I got it fixed now, it's offering eoan now.
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> kaddi: What you needed to do is set your machine to the "Normal" release cycle.. .which would have proceeded you through the upgrade steps to 19.10
[16:05] <leftyfb> kaddi: why are you upgrading to 19.10 when 20.04 will be released next month?
[16:05] <leftyfb> kaddi: the upgrade path from 18.04 -> 20.04 is cleaner than 19.10 -> 20.04
[16:06] <leftyfb> kaddi: I would stick with LTS
[16:06] <kaddi> because I won't be switching to 20.04 straight away but want to wait for a while to see if it's stable and I'm in need of a newer texlive version than is currentyl offered on 18.04
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> kaddi: install 19.10 in a VM instead?
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> or see if there is a snap available that has a more up-to-date version
[16:07] <shibboleth> leftyfb, orly?
[16:07] <shibboleth> iirc netplan is now enforced?
[16:07] <leftyfb> shibboleth: netplan is default
[16:08] <shibboleth> yeah, upgrading from xenial to bionic did not replace ifupdown but iirc this is not the case with 2004?
[16:09] <leftyfb> shibboleth: if you upgrade, I'm pretty sure it will keep your ifupdown. Fresh installs will default to netplan
[16:09] <shibboleth> ok, so same as with bionic?
[16:09] <leftyfb> shibboleth: you could easily test this in a VM
[16:09] <shibboleth> will the debian installer be available for server installs?
[16:09] <shibboleth>  /server iso
[16:11] <shibboleth> 'cuz no way that new travesty is a worthy replacement
[16:11] <shibboleth> maybe for "click next five times"-desktop users, but for server? nope
[16:14] <leftyfb> shibboleth: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04-Server-Install
[16:14] <shibboleth> nooo
[16:14] <shibboleth> "damn you, damn you all to hell"
[16:16] <leftyfb> shibboleth: to be honest, the 18.04 live installer has WAY less questions than the debian installer. It also allows you to easily install openssh and add a public key from github/launchpad
[16:16] <shibboleth> "way less questions"
[16:16] <leftyfb> there's also no "clicking". It's console based
[16:16] <shibboleth> yeah, see...
[16:17] <leftyfb> it's also completed in a fraction of the time of the debian installer
[16:18] <leftyfb> regardless, feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:18] <MikeRL> It was a mess. But I think I figured out a way around it.
[16:18] <shibboleth> yeah, i'm looking to set up a server here, not to sign up for 23andme
[16:19] <MikeRL> I disabled eoan-updates, and downgrade the offending packages. then did a do-release-upgrade.
[16:19] <MikeRL> Hopefully no more package errors. Synaptic didn't find any.
[16:20] <leftyfb> shibboleth: yeah, you're right, I much prefer my installer to install openssh in a less secure manner using passwords as opposed to giving you the option of limiting to keypairs :/
[16:21] <shibboleth> "whataboutism"
[16:21] <shibboleth> man, you really got me there :)
[16:33] <pmart> a package version without "ubuntu" postfix means it's a vanilla package from debian?
[16:36] <genii> pmart: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/
[16:48] <pmart> so if package moves from 3.31.1-1ubuntu1 to 3.31.1-3 it means all ubuntu-specific patches have been dropped?
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> it means you have installed from another source and that package is not longer supported in this channel
[16:56] <rfm> Can't believe there haven't been cases where all the fixes got migrated into the upstream Debian build and Ubuntu could stop adding patches.
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> rfm: If you would like to have a discussion about Ubuntu procedures and development, please come join us in #ubuntu-discuss
[16:58] <hggdh> no, it means the package has no ubuntu-specific patch
[17:06] <hsychla> hi. I set up a new 18.4.4 host and need to update the kernel. but I can not use 5.3 but need 5.0. I can't find a way to install it though... any tips?
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: It would probably help if you explaines you use case as to why you need that specific kernel version
[17:17] <oerheks> 18.04 and 5.3, you want !HWE
[17:17] <hsychla> pragmaticenigma not sure about the details but something in our k8s clusters is not working with 5.3. something network related
[17:17] <oerheks> !hwe
[17:18] <hsychla> oerheks HWE gives me 5.3. I need 5.0
[17:19] <oerheks> oh, other way around
[17:20] <hsychla> yes
[17:20] <oerheks> install 18.04.3 came with 5.0 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Updated_Packages
[17:21] <hsychla> yes
[17:21] <oerheks> not sure you can still download 18.04.3 ..
[17:21] <oerheks> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.3/
[17:21] <hsychla> the hosts are installed already. there must be a way to install 5.0 kernel onto it
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> hsychla: usually when something isnt working on a kernel, we advice to !bug your issue, so higher kernel versions get patched
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> hsychla: do you have more details about your 'something' about network related?
[17:29] <hsychla> afair it had something to do with kubevirt
[17:30] <oerheks> err, kubernetes?
[17:30] <hsychla> yes, running on kubernetes
[17:31] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: Sounds like you should be looking at the Kubernetes forums for others who have encountered the issue and see what their work arounds were
[17:32] <msiism> Hi, I'm trying to help someone build EdytorNC, an editor for CNC programmers, from source on Bodhi Linux, which is based on Ubuntu's latest LTS version. I'm unsure about one thing so far: If the build instructions say, "install Qt5 SDK", will it be enough to install qt5-default and qt5-qmake?
[17:33] <hsychla> no. I am not looking for a solution to that problem. I am looking for a solution for my problem "install kernel 5.0* on ubuntu 18.04.4". The kubevirt problem is handled by another department.
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !derivatives | msiism
[17:35] <msiism> lotuspsychje: Good point.
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: The old kernel is not patched and there are security vulnerabilities with it. Do you think someone here is going to suggest a fix that intentionally makes your setup vulnerable?
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: The correct approach is to reach out to the Kubernetes community, I am certain someone there has had the same issue and will have an approach you can use to fix the problem. The correct way.
[17:39] <hsychla> pragmaticenigma: yes, you are probably right but that will not give me a working cluster till tomorrow. hence my very explicit question how to install an old kernel on 18.04.4
[17:40] <pirla> hello everyone. I have a CIF (?) InfraRed receiver on a HP Pavillion dv6500, how can I configure it? I'm using XUbuntu
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: Unless it already exists on that machine from a previous kernel install, there isn't a way to downgrade your kernel
[17:41] <hsychla> no PPA no nothing?
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> PPAs are not supported here hsychla ... they are use at your own risk
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> PPAs are supported by their independent maintainers
[17:42] <hsychla> what happens to old ubuntu kernels? are they deleted and purged from history forever? I can't imagine they are...
[17:44] <pirla> hsychla: you may use a repo from a previous ubuntu build, but apt always tries to get latest version of installed packages
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> hsychla: They are not purged from existence, but there isn't a way to downgrade.
[17:44] <pirla> so you'll get a "packagename" is already the newest version
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: That's not how repositories work
[17:44] <pirla> pragmaticenigma: more or less
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> no... they don't work that way
[17:45] <pirla> in debian I made it to install a package from a previous version this way
[17:45] <pirla> but the package was not in the current version, so this is why I made it
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: That is called pinning ... that has nothing to do with the repository
[17:46] <pirla> oh, ok
[17:46] <rfm> the kernels exist in the repos as different packages (with the linux version in the package name)
[17:46] <pirla> there's always room for new things to learn ;)
[17:47] <pirla> Any help with IrDA?
[17:48] <pirla> hsychla: May be you want to manually compile the Kernel?
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: such a thing is not supported here
[17:49] <pirla> Oh, I see
[17:49] <hsychla> > They are not purged from existence, but there isn't a way to downgrade.
[17:49] <pirla> pragmaticenigma: Please, could you help me with InfraRed?
[17:49] <hsychla> I am currently at 4.15. so no downgrade needed
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: This is the best I can find for helping you with LIRC... LIRC is typically something managed my applications that support it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LIRC
[17:50] <hsychla> pirla " May be you want to manually compile the Kernel?" Hell no! :)
[17:50] <pirla> Thanks, checking out
[17:53] <pirla> Here's the output of configuring lirc: http://paste.debian.net/1133442/
[17:57] <pirla> And lircd returns segmentation fault
[17:58] <pirla> Nevermind, please, can you help with Motorola SM56 modem?
[18:01] <pirla> I downloaded the driver tarballs, but I have troubles compiling+
[18:03] <pirla> http://paste.debian.net/1133444/
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> pirla: as I told you earlier... compiled applications and code are not supported here
[18:07] <pirla> Oh, sorry
[18:07] <pirla> I made it to install the module, or at least I guess so
[18:08] <pirla> I installed sl-modem-dkms
[18:09] <ioria> pirla, https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/Dialup/MotorolaSm56
[18:10] <pirla> Yes, that's what I'm following, but I have problems compiling
[18:11] <ioria> pirla, install libc6-dev
[18:12] <ioria> pirla, and note that sl-modem-daemon != sl-modem-dkms
[18:12] <pirla> I already have
[18:12] <pirla> Ok
[18:13] <ioria> pirla,  the missing sys/cdefs.h  is actually in libc6-dev
[18:13] <pirla> But installing tells it's already the newest version
[18:14] <ioria> pirla,  ls /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/cdefs.h
[18:14] <pirla> found
[18:15] <pirla> Maybe I need to alter makefile?
[18:15] <ioria> pirla,  maybe the source has an incorrect header (that's why we cannot support that stuff here)
[18:16] <pirla> Yes, it's very likely. In fact, the driver release is from 2011
[18:16] <ioria> pirla,  nope, it's from 2007
[18:17] <pirla> slmodem-2.9.11-20110321 I opened the source page for wget and grab the latest
[18:17] <pirla> Isn't it any pre-built driver?
[18:17] <ioria> pirla,  told you it wont be easy
[18:19] <ioria> pirla, sy, but can you see the device in lspci at least ?
[18:19] <pirla> not sure
[18:20] <ioria> what you mean not sure ?
[18:20] <pirla> http://paste.debian.net/1133449/
[18:20] <pirla> Because may be detected as audio card
[18:21] <pirla> could be this entry: 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
[18:22] <FreVal> Trying to get into the discord website, but i keep getting the error  "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below."
[18:23] <ioria> pirla, i don't think so
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> FreVal: That is not an Ubuntu issue. That is a problem with the hosting website
[18:23] <pirla> FreVal: I'm getting this error too, but I made to connect just an hour ago. Maybe the server is down
[18:23] <pirla> ioria: why?
[18:24] <FreVal> Ok, so here is an ubuntu related issue: Everytime i boot up my Ubuntu i get an "Send Error" message.
[18:24] <ioria> pirla, because that is the System Management Bus
[18:24] <pirla> LOL Ok
[18:24] <pirla> So I guess it's not listed
[18:25] <pirla> But my bluetooth adapter is neither, so...
[18:25] <krauser> I'm going insade with this problem. I got a new computer, installed windows and Debian but I cannot install any version of Ubuntu(LTS, 19,10, etc) because I get tons of mounting errors, this one refers to Ubuntu LTS: https://imgur.com/a/Q7O3Zgv I disabled fast boot, tried with uefi only, tried uefi with legacy, tried legacy only, nothing works. Brand is an ASUS prime 2390M-Plus. This could also be because of the sdd drive(nvme0n1p1) but I
[18:25] <krauser> don't know anymore, I have no clue why I could install Debian and Arch alongside windows but can't with Ubuntu. I'm missing something
[18:26] <ioria> pirla, try  scanmodem : https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/Dialup/Scanmodem
[18:26] <pragmaticenigma> FreVal: Check your log files... they will help you find what is generating that error message
[18:27] <Scriptonaut> ubuntu is trying to update to 19.10. It's trying to make me set a secure boot password. I don't want secure boot. It says that I can proceed without confirming a password, and some third party drivers might not work correctly. That's fine, I'll just disable secure boot. But the dist upgrade wizard has me stuck in a loop
[18:27] <Scriptonaut> when I leave the password blank, it complains that my password isn't long enough. How do I skip this secure boot part of the upgrade?
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> krauser: Possibly this will help, otherwise, you're not alone with issues installing Ubuntu to an Acer computer: https://askubuntu.com/a/886561
[18:29] <FreVal> Ok pragmaticenigma, looking at the logfiles now.
[18:31] <pirla> ioria: no luck either
[18:32] <pirla> http://paste.debian.net/1133453/
[18:32] <FreVal> [drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
[18:32] <FreVal> Does anyone know what that means?. Its from my System logfiles.
[18:33] <pirla> I guess it's something with RAM, because FIFO means First In First Out and it's managed in memory, indeed
[18:34] <pirla> underrun means the data is already released and it can't re fill the buffer in time
[18:35] <FreVal> Here is my logile, not sure why i keep getting the error message at startup : https://pastebin.com/X5TXUC3E
[18:35] <puff> I'm trying out ubuntu 18.04 stock after years of using xubuntu.
[18:35] <puff> Not enjoying it so far :-).
[18:36] <puff> One thing I'm trying to figure out right now is workspaces, I've figured out the whole Activities/dynamic workspaces thing, but it looks like workspaces don't seem to work well with alt-tab/alt-backtick. When I alt-tab or alt-backtick, it lists *all* of the windows, not just the ones on my current workspace.  This makes it kinda less than useful.
[18:36] <pirla> TLDR, sorry
[18:38] <pirla> Could you just paste errors? May be by putting "| grep ror" at the line end
[18:39] <pirla> FreVal: read above
[18:39] <FreVal> Not sure how to find the logfiles in the terminal. I used the Log application.
[18:39] <FreVal> pirla
[18:40] <pirla> I see. IIRC, the command is "sudo dmesg | grep ror", but I'm unsure that's that log
[18:40] <pirla> FreVal:
[18:41] <FreVal> pirla, https://pastebin.com/fEqVKHz8
[18:42] <pirla> the output seems the libc is faulty, but I don't count on it
[18:43] <pirla> you got a segmentation fault with it btw
[18:44] <FreVal> It realy doesnt tell me much pirla, i realy dont know what is going on and how to fix this issue
[18:44] <pirla> neither me, sorry
[18:44] <pirla> maybe you can update libc, but it's a dangerous thing IMHO
[18:45] <pirla> and afaik
[18:46] <pirla> ioria: Please, can you help with ScanModem?
[18:46] <FreVal> :S hmm
[18:47] <ioria> pirla, well, there's no much to help with that
[18:47] <pirla> Did you see the output?
[18:47] <ioria> pirla, you should check  the gathered  logs
[18:47] <pirla> Especially this line: Using scanout.00:1b.0 data, and writing guidance to ModemData.txt
[18:48] <pirla> where?
[18:49] <ioria> pirla, i'am thinking that you might need some 32 bit libraries
[18:49] <pirla> May be, I'm looking at ModemData.txt and is reported there too
[18:52] <Wizard_> Hi. I would like to install ubuntu (or even ubuntu server) on nvme drive. are there any known issues with that? i read that there might be some problems on certains moboards.
[18:53] <ioria> pirla, like libc6-dev-i386 and such but then we'll probably go down the drain
[18:53] <ducasse> Wizard_: should work just fine, tias
[18:54] <Wizard_> ducasse: ok, good to know. thanx
[18:56] <FreVal> Anyone know what I can / should do about this ? https://pastebin.com/fEqVKHz8 ?
[18:56] <pirla> http://paste.debian.net/1133456/
[18:57] <sashapont> Hi all
[19:00] <ioria> pirla, yes, The audio card hosts a softmodem chip
[19:00] <sashapont> How i can uninstall the QXL graphics driver?
[19:01] <pirla> Phew, almost done: Just getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/1133458/
[19:04] <FreVal> Should I update from 18.04 to the newest release ? :O
[19:06] <puff> If anyone's curious, the answer to my question about alt-tab and multiple workspaces appears to be to use alt-esc, which cycles through all the windows in the current workspace.
[19:07] <pirla> ioria: isn't it there any prebuilt driver I can install with apt?
[19:08] <ioria> pirla, open  modem_main.c   and add    #include <sys/sysmacros.h>
[19:08] <ioria> pirla, not that i'am aware of
[19:09] <pirla> where should I add that line?
[19:10] <ioria> pirla, i thought you were familiar with this :  at top , where you see the others #include
[19:10] <pirla> Nevermind, problem solved
[19:11] <FreVal> brb
[19:11] <pirla> How to "make install"?
[19:12] <ioria> pirla, why don't you read the page i linked : https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/Dialup/MotorolaSm56
[19:12] <pirla> No, sorrt, I just make the modem folder, not the whole package
[19:12] <pirla> I'm already watching that page, but info are outdated
[19:13] <pirla> cc1: fatal error: /lib/modules/5.3.0-40-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h: no such file or directory
[19:19] <pirla> ioria:
[19:21] <oerheks> pirla,  i see sl-modem in our repos.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sl-modem/
[19:22] <ioria> sl-modem is the source package (from there you get 2 binary : daemon and dkms)
[19:23] <pirla> what should I do with that url?
[19:23] <oerheks> read it, and apt install sl-modem ?
[19:24] <pirla> I guess I have to add a repo?
[19:24] <FreVal> https://pastebin.com/jXzBxLUi hmmm I cant figure this out...
[19:25] <ioria> !info sl-modem eoan
[19:29] <pirla> Yes, but that page tells there's a version for it
[19:30] <ioria> pirla, i told you that is the source package (not the binary)
[19:30] <pirla> Oh, sorry. What's the download link? I didn't find anything
[19:31] <pirla> Following links gives info about debugging
[19:33] <pirla> found
[19:35] <FreVal> Anyone here that can help me figure out what is wrong ? https://pastebin.com/jXzBxLUi
[19:37] <sixwheeledbeast> FreVal: Some ACPI issue, tried updating the BIOS or using ACPI workarounds if it's causing an issue with booting or whatever.
[19:38] <FreVal> Ok, have not tried any of that. But i can give it a go
[19:38] <pirla> I'm still getting that error
[19:38] <oerheks> FreVal, line #15; [    3.121957] EXT4-fs (nvme0n1p5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[19:38] <oerheks> some trouble with filesystem, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[19:39] <stoner19> struggling with an upgrade from cosmic (18.10) to eoan (19.04). Is there a simple method to doing this?
[19:39] <sixwheeledbeast> Ah well spotted it's remounting read only then
[19:39] <FreVal> oerheks, I will look in to it.
[19:41] <stoner19> not sure if this posted before my client actually joined the channel, so sorry if its a repeat...struggling with an upgrade from cosmic (18.10) to eoan (19.04). Is there a simple method to doing this?
[19:43] <stoner19> actually, disco is 19.04. That is what I am looking for. LTS.
[19:44] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[19:44] <oerheks> follow that wiki, should work
[19:44] <sixwheeledbeast> Next LTS is 20.04 current is 18.04
[19:44] <stoner19> well shoot
[19:44] <oerheks> 19.04 is EOL .. so you would get to 19.10
[19:45] <stoner19> is it best to upgrade until next LTS?
[19:46] <oerheks> stoner19, that is up to you,18.10 gives no updates, so it is vulnerable.
[19:46] <FreVal> oerheks, I cant figure it out. I cant use fsck on any of the nvme partitions.
[19:47] <stoner19> I have had so many issues with things not working as they should on 18.10
[19:47] <stoner19> but so many things already running on it so it would be difficult to fully reinstall the os
[19:49] <stoner19> back to 18.04
[19:49] <FreVal> brb rebooting, trying to check the bios.
[19:53] <stoner19> "An upgrade from 'cosmic' to 'eoan' is not supported with this tool." using do-release-upgrade
[19:53] <stoner19> guess I need to upgrade to disco first
[19:54] <ducasse> stoner19: you do
[19:55] <stoner19> is there a simple method of doing this since do-release-upgrade doesn't let me?
[19:57] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | stoner19
[19:59] <stoner19> yes, I understand "Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities" but its a little late for that because 18.10 is already EOL
[20:01] <vlatko01981> Hello fellas. I have problem running program due to "`GLIBC_2.29' not found". Any Ideas how to fix that?
[20:01] <sixwheeledbeast> stoner19: does do release upgrade fail?
[20:02] <sarnold> vlatko01981: where'd you get the program in question?
[20:02] <vlatko01981> @sarnold: http://www.flashtool.net/downloads_linux.php
[20:02] <ducasse> stoner19: read the last link from ubottu
[20:03] <stoner19> sixwheeledbeast yes, I get "	"An upgrade from 'cosmic' to 'eoan' is not supported with this tool.""
[20:03] <stoner19> which makes sense
[20:03] <stoner19> ok, thank you. will give it a read
[20:05] <sarnold> vlatko01981: that version of glibc matches what was shipped in disco -- *probably* the version from eoan would work too. you could either install 19.10 directly on a computer or you could try to run the program in an lxd instance
[20:06] <rana_ans> Hey I need help with ubuntu mate 18.04 installed on pi 3b+
[20:06] <rana_ans> problem: when I try connecting to a wifi network, pi restarts
[20:06] <rana_ans> I was running raspbian before installing ubuntu on pi and it wasn't an issue there
[20:07] <stoner19> ducasse thanks and sorry. for some reason my sources.list didn't save when I added the old-releases
[20:07] <stoner19> trying it again now
[20:08] <rana_ans> anyone who could help with the problem I'm facing?
[20:08] <vlatko01981> sarnold: since I don't have a clue what lxd is, I'll just live boot into 19.10. Thanks!
[20:09] <rana_ans> vlatko01981: LXD is a kinda virtual machine that runs linux on windows or somthing like that
[20:09] <sarnold> vlatko01981: aha! makes sense :D I hadn't thought of a live instance, good idea
[20:09] <ducasse> no, lxd is a container setup
[20:10] <vlatko01981> rana_ans: you think of WSL
[20:10] <vlatko01981> IIRC
[20:10] <sarnold> vlatko01981: lxd is neat, but it'd be a fair amount of work to get a firmware flashing dealy to work through it https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/introduction/
[20:11] <vlatko01981> I'd be going for live boot. Thank you for helping me
[20:12] <rana_ans> ok now anybody who can help me?
[20:12] <rana_ans> problem: when I try connecting to a wifi network, pi restarts
[20:13] <sarnold> rana_ans: I'd never seen anyone mention that before
[20:13] <sarnold> rana_ans: I had a poor time getting my rpi3b+ on to wifi but it was never *that* bad
[20:13] <rana_ans> yeah I'm stuck at this problem too Idk what to do with that
[20:14] <sarnold> rana_ans: which image did you use?
[20:14] <rana_ans> sarnold: ubuntu-mate-18.04.2-beta1-desktop-arm64+raspi3-ext4.img
[20:14] <rana_ans> I downloaded it from ubuntu mate site
[20:15] <rana_ans> is it a problem with x64 ? I didnt know what to install 32 or 64, I just went with the thought of windows :D
[20:16] <sarnold> rana_ans: hmm, I wonder if they've got an 18.04.4 image ..
[20:16] <rana_ans> sarnold: or maybe a problem with voltage? because I dont think there could be any other issues with it right
[20:16] <rana_ans> do you want the link I downloaded it from?
[20:18] <sarnold> rana_ans: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/bionic/release/ has some 18.04.4 images -- though they are preinstalled server images, you'll need to do something like apt install ubuntu-mate-desktop^  once it's installed to get the gui you want
[20:19] <sarnold> rana_ans: undervoltage might be it, they apaprently require more juice than most chargers are prepared to deliver
[20:19] <rana_ans> umm I think I have connected a 2.5A adapter
[20:20] <rana_ans> sarnold: I download the image from here: https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[20:21] <rana_ans> Im gonna run apt install ubuntu-mate-desktop and see if it solves
[20:31] <anden> what's going on with xrandr? 50% of the time when i boot up my system, i cannot use xrandr, it fails with the error message 'xrandr: output LVDS1 cannot use rotation "normal" reflection "none"'
[20:31] <anden> logging out and back in usually fixes it then
[20:32] <anden> also, switching compositors does not help so it's not related to that
[20:34] <anden> actually i'm thinking the problem is happening prior to logging in even, because when it does happen, the login window does not appear on my second screen
[20:34] <anden> only after logging back out
[20:35] <rana_ans> sarnold: thanks it is undervoltage that causes the pi to crash,
[20:35] <rana_ans> Good night.
[20:35] <sarnold> rana_ans: "yay" I guess :)
[20:35] <sarnold> thanks :) have good night :)
[20:35] <rana_ans> :P
[20:37] <anden> another problem i have is xvkbd doesn't seem to work whatsoever under Lubuntu 18.04 - under 16.04 and 19.04 it works fine (tested all from live environments so it shouldn't be a config problem)
[20:37] <Sven_vB> I multistrapped an Ubuntu bionic amd64, including NetworkManager, and a conf file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/ with "[main] plugins=ifupdown [ifupdown] managed=true". works fine in one computer, but in another, NM just won't manage my interfaces. any ideas? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/00323b11
[20:45] <Sven_vB> anden, what did try, what did you expect it to do, and what did it do instead?
[20:45] <Sven_vB> +you
[20:45] <anden> Sven_vB: for the xvkbd problem or xrandr? since i posted two questions
[20:46] <FreVal> Anyone know what this is about "[    3.152790] EXT4-fs (nvme0n1p5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[20:46] <anden> but actually, the answer for both is it happens with any or without arguments to the command. and what it does instead is nothing at all
[20:47] <Sven_vB> anden, I meant anden. for the xrandr problem, it might be a race condition, e.g. your display manager starting before the display driver is fully loaded.
[20:47] <anden> i see
[20:48] <Sven_vB> err sorry I meant xvkbd
[20:48] <anden> any log i can check to confirmt hat?
[20:49] <Sven_vB> maybe /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0, anything in /var/log/lightdm/ (I recommend lightdm. :D)
[20:49] <anden> anything in particular i should be looking for?
[20:49] <Sven_vB> have you tried waiting half a minute longer before you login?
[20:49] <Sven_vB> ideally anything that differs between sessions where xrandr works and where it doesn't. :)
[20:49] <anden> i'll have to check that, thanks
[20:53]  * Sven_vB tries the NM config with += for the plugin, just to be sure
[20:59] <pirla> I'm trying to make configure kernel, but I get this: http://paste.debian.net/1133476/
[21:00] <ducasse> pirla: building kernels is not something we support
[21:00] <pirla> ok
[21:00] <ducasse> pirla: that said, install flex
[21:01] <pirla> Yes, I realised after writing
[21:02] <ducasse> pirla: why are you building a kernel, though?
[21:02] <pirla> no, trying to get modversions.h from the source
[21:04] <pirla> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18260708/can-not-find-linux-modversions-h
[21:06] <pirla> brb
[21:10] <pirla> Back
[21:13] <pirla> No luck either
[21:13] <pirla> Gonna get the bed, cu
[22:22] <l0rdn1x> hello
[22:44] <anden> so, xvkbd does not work with the -xsendevent parameter, nothing gets sent, under Lubuntu 18.04 - any idea why?
[22:45] <anden> like i previously mentioned, it works under 16.04 and 19.04 but not 18.04 (tested all in live environments)
[22:49] <anden> and another problem, when i remap my capslock key to AltGr, it breaks my actual AltGr key. this works in the live environment so i guess it is conflicting with some config i did, but i can't guess what. the command used is:
[22:49] <anden> xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = ISO_Level3_Shift"
[22:50] <anden> it actually breaks AltGr completely, neither Caps Lock or the real AltGr behaves fully like AltGr, some key combos no longer work like expected
[22:55] <anden> hm ok i just realised what it is, it's a result of me swapping ctrl and capslock keys
[22:56] <ducasse> anden: see if you can get what you want with setxkbmap instead of xmodmap, read the xkeyboard-config man page
[22:57] <anden> thanks
[23:06] <Sven_vB> I tried whether upgrading my packages might fix the NetworkManager issues, but I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/e5c0c6b0 is there a way to make dpkg skip chown or ignore its failure?
[23:07] <Sven_vB> still using Ubuntu bionic amd64
[23:11] <Sven_vB> anden, afair you'll want to reconfigure modifiers, not keycodes.
[23:11] <Sven_vB> keycode is for when that key acts as the last-pressed key
[23:12] <anden> thanks, i actually figured it out though
[23:12] <anden> basically, the problem is that i'm sometimes using an external keyboard and sometimes not
[23:12] <Sven_vB> oh yeah
[23:12] <anden> so i solved it by having a script that runs at boot time to check if my external kb is connected
[23:12] <anden> and it's all good now
[23:12] <anden> just need to fix that xvkbd -xsendevent problem
[23:12] <Sven_vB> even better would be to have a udev script that triggers anytime you connect an external keyboard.
[23:13] <Sven_vB> what are you trying to achieve with that command?
[23:13] <anden> yeah, that's what i was thinking. i've never done that but i really should
[23:13] <anden> well, i'm using an ancient keyboard which has an unusual layout, so i run that with xbindkeys to send some keys it is missing
[23:14] <Sven_vB> another cheap way is, if connecting your keyboard creates a directory in /sys/, have systemd watch for such files.
[23:14] <anden> if i remove the -xsendevent parameter it actually behaves as expected, but IIRC it doesn't send the key to some applications (because they were created with a different library or whatever?)
[23:14] <anden> but -xsendeven seems to work everywhere, on my other distro where it actually works
[23:14] <Sven_vB> can xdotool send the key?
[23:15] <anden> i remember trying with that and xte also, but getting the same problem where it wouldn't work in all programs
[23:15] <anden> it's been a few years since i experimented with that though, so i could be mistaken
[23:15] <Sven_vB> a problem might be with apps that poll whether the key is currently pressed, rather than monitoring key press events.
[23:16] <Sven_vB> in that case it might help to have xdotool send key down, wait a bit, key up.
[23:16] <anden> yeah, i remember getting problems where my physical modifier key being held down still caused some problems, so i tried sending a keyup event but in the end it wouldn't work out very well
[23:17] <anden> i always managed to cause one problem or another
[23:17] <Sven_vB> what kind of app has the problems?
[23:17] <anden> the xsendevent just seemed to be the magic silver bullet to everything, and i don't understand why it doesn't work under 18.04 in particular but in older and also newer distros
[23:17] <anden> i would have to find that again too
[23:18] <Sven_vB> is the app able to receive that key via remote control like VNC?
[23:18] <anden> that's a good question, i would have to test that too
[23:25] <anden> i'll be looking into that more later though, it's getting late now and i have to sleep. but thanks so much for the help, it's very appreciated!
[23:34] <Sven_vB> glad I could help :)
[23:43] <l0rdn1x> anyone have keybase?
[23:45]  * Sven_vB temporarily re-mounted /boot with gid=root so dpkg would shut up about the owner of boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-91-lowlatency, and it did.
[23:45] <Sven_vB> still there's gotta be a better way
[23:48] <Sven_vB> way of least resistance would probably be to create a tiny dpkg memorial partition next to my ESP and do advanced regexp voodoo in GRUB.
[23:48] <people398594> how do i get the scroll lock key to work in a stock ubuntu 18.04 installation
[23:49] <Sven_vB> people398594, what shall that key do, and what does it do instead?
[23:49] <people398594> its useful for changing whether the arrow keys scroll or not in spreadsheets
[23:49] <people398594> its also supposed to toggle a keyboard light
[23:52] <people398594> i'm using gnome
[23:57] <Sven_vB> does it toggle the keyboard light in gnome?